/lit/ - Literature

If you want an easy way to find out which books are good, I have a solution.

>straight white male authors only
>no women, jews, blacks, gays etc
>check review on amazon
>if 4.5+ stars, ignore it. it panders to lowest common denominator
>enter the reviews and type in the search key words
>sex, sexist, sexism, gay, lgbt, etc and see what people say about the book using those keywords
>"book is highly sexist against women!" good book
>"book goes against sexist tropes and empowers women!" bad book
>look through 2 and 3 star reviews, they were honest enough to not go full 5 star shill or 1 star shill usually
>if the book is part of a trilogy or longer series, do it for each book
>1980's and before tend to be less pozzed
>check authors social media for red flags like pronouns in bio, lgbt flags, current event virtue signaling one liners, telling others who they are voting for and who you should vote for, etc

I havent read a bad book so far.

Read Dying Earth

I hope you fucking virgins are not reading any faggot jap trash light novels and are instead reading superior alpha chad cock xianxia literature.

You arent a virgin right? You do have sex right

>>14557371
no

Any based and sexist sci-fi or fantasy? Read a few books with empowered women and what some would call onions elements but now I want the other end of the stick.

Or how about women who fight in bikini armor? Or strong women who surrender themselves to the alpha males or who get BTFO and put in their place?

>>14557343
I wanna thank whichever anon told me to read Sarah Hawke's books. They may have started trashy, but at some point I was more interested in the actual story than the smut.

>>14557411
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37809732

>>14557347
Nobody cares about you

Group reading is Perfect State by Brando Sando, 87 page non-Cosmere novella
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25188109-perfect-state
Reading/discussion on discord til next Thursday

Does anyone have a suggested reading list for the Eternal Champion/Elric/all that cycle? Moorcock is way to prolific and I'm having a hell of a time figuring out where to start.

>>14557729
Just do published order.

https://pastebin.com/45EUaK7L
An excerpt from a light hearted fantasy romance
>>14557411
>>14557347
I like empowered female characters. I don't care about feminism/progressive politics, I just like cute girls who kick ass.

What's a SF book that's completely more more than 90% about space combat? There's plenty of high realism sci fi but I think space politics and romances are boring. I just want to see ships blow each other up. It's still fine even if it's not about ships fighting and is just set on board a starship.

>>14557807
*completely or

>>14557807
That sounds horrifically boring

>>14557807
go watch some gundam

>>14557807
>I just want to see ships blow each other up.
Then play a game. The only thing I can think of that even comes close is Area 88, but that's still a character drama

>>14557371
>reading weebshit of any variety
fantasy is gay enough without without adding asian faggotry on top of it

>>14557343
Fist bumps? Where’s the kiss?

>>14557364
Got the four in one. First story hooked me. Wish I had read them ages ago

Is there a particular edition of The Night Land to look for?

>>14557906
The one rewritten by a guy without a foot fetish

>>14557892
That would be gay

>>14557928
They don’t look like men...

>>14557946
keen eyes

>>14557872
No no, character drama is fine. But I'd prefer it if it were centered around the technical aspects of the story and the overall goal of the crew. I think something like a subplot about the relationship between the bridge crew, the captain's secret past, or a sabotage attempt or some such thing really adds to the story. What I don't want is the book going in depth about something entirely unrelated to the crew and the operation of the ship.

>>14557986
Different anon
Why not read stuff where the ships are the characters rather than biological lifeforms?

>>14558004
don't do it anon

>>14558004
>>14558008
Hmmm? As in starships driven by AIs or something? Or...Oh no.

>>14558004

Are there any good videos or things to read on how to write a book? Like how to organize your thoughts, write out scenes, how to manage pacing, world building, etc. And more common grammar things like general sentence structure, prose, and the like.

More importantly, how the heck would one describe certain things like pic related? Maybe some of you want to take a stab at it to give me a rough example.

I have been plagued with incredibly horrid, lucid, vivid reoccurring nightmares and have been seeing a therapist about it for some time now and one of the things suggested to me was to write about it, and if so inclined turn it into a book. Which is what I was thinking about doing for some time now anyway.

I just have no idea how to go about things.

Ban newfags who out themselves. An iota of quality should be maintained in the group.

>>14558072
Posting here since scifi/fantasy seems like what I would be writing and also I didnt really want to make a brand new thread. Maybe I should though.

>>14558081
ban this
*unzips dick*

I really liked A Deepness in the Sky. What else would I like?

>>14558081
I don't expect anyone to do anything that I would consider to be worth banning.

>>14558110
challenge accepted

>>14558085
make a thread. here's a lecture series by brandon sanderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ZDBOc2tX8&list=PLH3mK1NZn9QqOSj3ObrP3xL8tEJQ12-vL

>>14558097
read the first book in the series, a fire upon the deep (avoid 3rd book). children of time is also good

>>14558133
Thanks anon. Ill make a thread in the day tomorrow bull Ill start his videos tonight.

>>14558072
Just try jumping right in, come on anon, write us a short story about some of your nightmares.

>>14558072
>how the heck would one describe certain things like pic related
Are you slow?

>>14558133
>sanderhack foot fetish
Why are you sabotaging him

>>14558122 Good luck!

>>14558217
Lets you try jimbo

Are any of the Malazan side stories good? I liked Bauchelain & Korbal Broach in MoI but don't think they warranted their own series. Esselmont sucks ass from what I've read too

>>14557364
I like this and I ordered "The Dying Earth" a few days ago. Not sure what to expect but it looks cool. I've heard the Dying Earth thing is really huge though. Maybe the chart can be expanded somehow? I'll look up all the stuff Jack Vance wrote and see what I can find, but I know more or less where to start at least :D

>>14558072
Your boi Howard here. This some indescribable shit yo. Can't even bear to dwell on the creeping uncomfyness of it all. Have you seen my cat?

>>14558213
I have not written anything yet. Go play Bloodbourne on acid or something, you'll get an idea.

>>14557364
is the night land, a story retold version good?

>>14558072
Just write anon, develop your own style instead of copying other.

Is [book I'm trying to create discussion for] any [quality]?

>>14557347
Give some recommendations then

>>14558330
The original reads fine, it's not exactly Mason and Dixon.

>>14558237
Now you

The giant's carcass hung still in the winter air. Cold had reached the extremities first, blackening them, but the empty chest still shone red with gory work of carrion crows. A dress, now tattered and filthy, hung from the waist to reach the snow below. Beyond a veil so thin as to be glass a face could be seen, skinless, sightless. Grinning a toothless grin

>>14558492
>cant even tell which one is being described
rip

>>14558492
Idk man I was just fucking with you

>>14558418
All the Black Company books. 2ez
>>14558492
Decent desu

>>14558492
>Beyond a veil so thin as to be glass
Fabric of a veil IS thinner than glass. Or at least equal in size, if the glass is very thin. I believe you meant to describe the veil's transparency, not how much space is takes up. So the word you're looking for is "sheer". Beyond a veil so sheer as to be glass.

Are you guys familiar with the Japanese anime and novel/lightnovel GATE Thus the JSDF Fought There?

>random gate appears in modern day tokyo
>roman style soldiers invade and slaughter a bunch of random civilians
>the random street police officers engage with their revolvers
>battle ensues in the streets
>JSDF (military) is deployed
>romans annihilated
>Japan sends the JSDF into the gate and they establish a base
>its a fantasy world with dragons elves etc
>tanks and jets and helicopters fight powerful mages and dragons
>soldiers gun down invaders by enemy kingdom
>get involved in local politics etc
>USA China etc all want in on the resources, Japan in precarious situation
>envoys from Earth and the other word travel to each side
>trade alliances form
>etc

Anyway its a unique concept ruined with MUH ANIME BIG TITS HAREM junk. My question is, is there anything like this concept that isnt shit Jap trash?

>>14558888
Yes, various novels and other media.

>>14557364
im glad the chart caught on and people are getting into the dying earth
>>14558252
other people can add onto the chart down by the other related stories if they want as long as its dying earth related. it took me a long time to edit and fix and theres still some mistakes on that one

>>14558072
i think h.r. giger drew and sculpted his nightmares(he's the guy who created the xenomorph from alien). so who knows, you could turn this into a huge creative boon and that could be cool
also who did the art to the left? especially the knight with the red tree. is that some of the stuff you see in your nightmares?

How does he do it?

Best book series of 1990s and 2000s

>>14557690
I do
>>14557704
Megacringe
>>14557371
Based and bluepilled reverendinsanityposter
>>14558252
Expect cool, entertaining myth-like stories with a human touch on them, from which meaning can be extracted if you go looking for it.
The Last Castle and Emphyrio if you lean scifi, and Lyoness for fantasy.
>>14558948
>>14558950
He does it by being a god-fearing mormon, as all people should be. Sanderson vs Jordan is the great modern debate - much like Dostoyevsky vs Tolstoy

>>14558950
It ended in 2013 so of the 2010s as well.

>>14557430
lol I'm surprised somebody actually listened, yeah they're trashy but it's a good trashy, not exactly the Jin Ping Mei but not your average KU werewolf cowboy/monster girl harem garbage either.

>>14557807
The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell would be right up your alley, the protagonist doesn't even leave his flagship until the sequel series. Characters are fairly wooden and two dimensional though.

People will recommend the Honor Harrington series a lot but quite frankly the writing is bad and there's too much politics, and the politics is brainlet level stuff.

If you're up for more Space Opera style stuff, the Spiral Wars series by Joel Shepherd and the RCN series by David Drake are both safe bets.

>>14558072
Is there a community college in your area? Check and see if they offer creative writing classes, you'll probably get more out of them than a video.

>>14557364
Just now finishing rhialto the magnificent, is the consensus that the sequels of the book of the new sun are worth reading? I though shadow and claw was okay and that sword and citadel was pretty sweet

>>14559009
>>14557807
Seconding lost fleet, that series is 95% space battles

Alright fags, I just finished De Bello Gallico and am looking for something similar.
Just give me shit with accurate and interesting wars (as in the focus being battle strategy, logistics, etc.)

>>14559032
Try the Aubrey-Maturin series maybe? They're not science fiction (though really the world of 1800 is as alien to us as the space battles of 2200) but they're both detailed and readable stories.

David Drake's Hammer's Slammers stories will give you accuracy from a foot soldier's perspective.

>>14559063
Thank you, anon, Aubrey-Maturin looks promising.
The Hammer thing isn't really what I am looking for, though, I had something more "great general" in mind.

Best books of the 2010s.

>>14557807
The second book in the three body problem trilogy has some good space shit. It is pretty hard scifi, though, not the sort of space opera battle. Hell, half the book is them just building the infrastructure to manufacture spaceships

>>14559309
they look stupid

Two of the best sci-fi books i have ever read
>bot with AI spreads over the internet
>takes over the software of big corporations
>blackmails corps into working for it or it deletes all their data
>american gov ruled by big corps, so it does nothing
>bot coerces or attracts people to work for it
>establishes alternative economy and high tech production on a local level
I won't say more because i'm gonna spoiler it.

>>14558950
Very true

>>14559706
ok Daniel

>>14559706
so basically the AI is a mary sue (or whatever the non-gendered version is)

What do elves smell like?

>>14558540
Black company sucks. Is that all you have? I’m honestly asking

>>14559904
Like this
*braaaaaaaaaaap*

>>14559915
the first post is a copypasta, there's no intelligence there

>>14559904
Wood and sex

>>14559904
Filthy hippies

>>14558893
Like what?

>>14560277
>no book where the american military invades a peaceful fantasy elf world to bring them democracy and fast food with a side of extermination
why live bros

I want to write something but I keep procrastinating. Every time I think about my plot I end up wanting to change it.

Any books where modern humans with modern technology invades fantasy shitholes??

>>14560475
There's a bunch of trashy Japanese light novels with that exact premise. As for actual books I can't really think of any.

>>14560475
>>14560475
Gate thus the jsdf fought there apparently based off this guy >>14558888

>>14560482
already watched it
too bad japoids portraid themselves as superheroes outsmarting superpowers lmao

>>14560475
>>14560482
GATE is unintentionally hilarious but as an actual book it's pretty shit, too many curbstomp battles without any tension at all, now some Vietnam-tier shit where the trees speak in Elvish would be fucking amazing.

>>14560500
I dont see how magic elf faggotry and dragons would defeat modern military tech, even if they could how do they deal with nukes? They dont.

>>14560510
>the only country with black men among their agents is the united states
KEK japan is pretty based

>>14560510
I think the japs are still upset about hiroshima and nagasaki

>>14560517
I dont really need fantasy cucks doing something about modern technology
I just want to read how arrogant fantasy creatures are being roflstomped by tanks and artillery, I dont know why its just feels good to read something like that, thats why I particularly liked GATE

>>14557807
You might enjoy The Forever War

>>14557872
I wanna fuck an autistic /down syndrome gril. Or at least see porn of it.

>>14558410
We are wise to all the tricks. It's why only newfags take the discussion bait posing as something else like an argument.

>>14558888
>>>/a/

What are some books with this feel?

>>14560792
Is that helmet bro?

Also wild wastes by Randi Darren. It's exactly like that. To the T.

>>14560801
>helmet bro
Don't know who that is. And yeah I know of Wild Wastes but that sort of harem LitRPG isn't really what I'm looking for.

>>14557371
What is the 'out by the roots' line from?

>>14560510
>detachment of commandos dispatched on night time guerrilla raid through forest
>elves cast optical and auditory illusions that disorient soldiers
>last thing they ever hear is the sheath of an elven sword and the death sighs of their peers as they get picked off one by one in the darkness
pretty kino

>>14560824
where is this from anon ?

>>14560880
Just watch Predator again

>>14560880
>even though commandos are eliminated, skinwalkers take their image and return to base
>run sabotage operations before further demoralising human forces by gradually morphing their shape and taking out as many as they can, sewing mistrust in unit

>>14560891
Some short one shot called The Female Orc and Male Knight & Other Stories

I completed Confessions of a Crap Artist last night. Definitely one of the more tame (i.e., no wild psychedelic experiences, no mindfucks, and so on) PKD stories, and very human, truly captures the subjectivity of human nature.
I am around halfway through Stations of the Tide and I finally got into it a few chapters back. The prose is quite purple.

>>14560510
It's propaganda

Reminder that this is still the *objectively* best book of the 21st century.

>>14560386
i want full on modern times vs fantasy warfare.
can you imagine it bomber jets dropping loads on some fucking elf infantry riding some weird elk thing trying to shoot arrows at targets they cant see?
fucking navy seal or marine strikeforces entrenched in small arms warfare with dwarves?
fuck why does no one ever write the interesting portal fantasy.
GATE came kinda close but it still wasnt what i was looking for.

>>14561383
I read something like that a while ago. I can't recall if it was self published or not. It was a "magic coming back" type trope. The military tried and failed to defeat the supernatural.

>>14561413
sounds interesting.
do post again please if you remember.

>>14561427
>>14561383
Try something more than night and wolfhound century

What book that was published in 2020 have you guys completed?

A contemporary setting where humans spontaneously produce "memory gems" in the midst of life-changing experiences. The creation of these gems has a karma-trapping property. The "power" used to create the gem is stolen from the "consequence" of the event that spurred its creation, meaning that the future becomes less eventful every time a gem is made. A gem created from a person's near-death experience likely stole its power from the potential real death of that person, meaning they saved themselves by creating that gem. Unfortunately, this also applies to gems created from good experiences, lessening the good consequences. A gem must either be destroyed or permanently separated from its owner in order to release the trapped karma.

Holding a memory gem will allow you to experience the memory related to its creation, but your thoughts have to be somewhere close to the memory in the first place. And that is where the main character comes in. They are a "memory appraiser" who specializes in unlocking memory gems whose owners died without leaving any documentation of what the memory was. Some gems are random finds that could be from any time period, some are from people who died alone trapped in a sea of memories, and some are from victims of tragedy or murder who couldn't trap enough karma to save themselves, but the creation of the gem ensured that others would be saved.

>>14561824
I doubt there's anything good yet. How about 2019?

>>14561941
>>>/lit/crit

>>14559014
>sequels of the book of the new sun are worth reading?
Urth is divisive since it explains some of the really vague stuff in BotNS and some people didn't think this necessary (I can't see how anyone could have guessed some of the things from BotNS alone, though). It also has a very different tone. Still, it is its own book and doesn't dwell on the earlier events. It revolves around Severian's trial and whether he can actually become the New Sun and what that would mean. I liked the second half a lot more than the first.
I haven't read Short Sun, so I don't know how Long Sun relates to BotNS, but it's very different from New Sun. It focuses on a young priest trying to save his church by solving a conspiracy. The Catholicism is a lot more obvious, but the series is also a lot more light-hearted and easier to read than BotNS. A pleasant experience.
I've heard Short Sun is very good, but I haven't read it yet. It continues from where Long Sun left off.

>>14561349
I can argue with that because he also wrote Latro but I won't because it's a fucking ride.

>>14558072
Fuck it I'll take a crack at it. Starting easy:
>A tall figure like that of a man wrapped in a cloak the same color as his skin; obelisk. His features could barely be made out against the inky blackness of his flesh, but it was clear that he was gaunt as a desiccated corpse.From beneath a heavy brow shone two eyes of pure white like stars in the night sky.

>>14562838
>in a cloak the same color as his skin; obelisk.
And what color is that exactly?

>>14562848
FUCK I meant obsidian

>>14562838
>picked the easiest one
heh

>>14562902
Naw fuck you man, your main character is Obelix now, deal with it.

>>14562919
based

>>14562977
i hate based posters

>>14563020
Sorry

>>14560386
More like half human orcs invade goblin settlements because necromancer told them there was human sacrifice happening there

Same time they are telling elves to take goblin refugees

Which one of you did this

>>14563322
Might be the Vance anon. He's into Conan taming girls of all varieties.

>>14562848
>>14558072
>>14562916
>>14562919
F-fuck you guys, I'm gonna redeem myself
>Rising into the air was the partial corpse. The whole thing had turned blood red, except the talon-like hands and feet which were burnt black as soot. The remains of its clothing hung - decayed - from its body, now little more than rags. What little skin remained was melting from the body, hanging from the bones like dead leaves. Its organ sat within the skeleton, reduced to a visceral, crimson soup. The strands of hair that hung around the skull like some sort of sorrowful wedding veil obscured the eyes completely, but not the mangled, toothless mouth. Around its head fluttered three black butterflies.

>>14558072
Time for the other skelly
>It stood there with all the regal air of a knight. At its side, the lich held a long, rectangular, black blade that seemed to have shattered and been reattached by whispy roots. Its head was now a skull with two cavernous pits for eyes. From within their abyssal depths could be seen a faint red light, granting the figure a startling sense of intellect. Atop its head was a crown frantic, red light like electricity. Its swollen heart had expanded to fill the entirety of its ribs, some of which were broken and missing to accommodate the bloated organ. A long, dripping cloak like pouring blood flowed down from its left shoulder to lightly skim the ground. The strangest thing about the creature were five crooked and gnarled trees which sprouted from its back. Each was about the length of his sword, and each were a burnt black as if they were the remnants of a great inferno. Their tangled branches almost resembled curled, rigid fingers and were covered with leaves of red so thin and light that they were like a scarlet mist settled on the treetops.

>>14558072
>the knight in the crimson cloak was unlike any I had ever seen, for his face was a skull and the crown of thorns about his head were as veins, grown freeform through a substrate of air instead of flesh. boughs with bloody leaves crowned his shoulders and peeking out behind them was the thin crescent of a vile eclipse. Even as my heart chilled his own beat through the ruins of his chest, and it was larger than lungs, liver and bowels put together. Only then did I realize that the red mantle about his shoulders wasn't silk or gore-slick wool, but raw flesh like that of a skirt steak.

what I'm trying to say is, he definitely hired Lady Gaga's costume designer

>missed writing three nights in a row

fuck me

>>14563584
>>14563636
>>14563708
pretty good desu, but skirt steak was a weird choice

>>14563708
>>14563636
>>14563584
>>14562838
>>14558876
>>14558492
>>14558072
AMATEURS lets me show you how its done

>tentacle man with spear
>candle boi in a hood
>temple nigga
>weird lady
>floating lady
>tree nigga with a sword
>religious gathering

2ez4me

>>14563848
I know you are trolling but I have to admit all the pictures anon posted are pretty difficult truly put into words what you are actually seeing.>>14563584
>>14563636
>>14563708
did a nice job though, but reading them first then seeing what he was linking too, it fell short. Pictures are just better, not his fault. Only thing harder is probably describing the taste or food, You just have to eat it. Same with sounds I guess, or all senses.

>>14559009
>lol I'm surprised somebody actually listened, yeah they're trashy but it's a good trashy, not exactly the Jin Ping Mei but not your average KU werewolf cowboy/monster girl harem garbage either.
Yeah, I was surprised how many times I caught myself going "stop fucking I wanna find out what happens next in the story".

>>14558888
>>14558888
pretty sure there was a few books about some navy ship that got transported back in time, or some town or military base. Sorry anon I cant help.But some like that you described sounds very fun to read though GATE itself I did watch and try to read and it was OK. Too much harem junk as you said.

I did read the spoilers for how GATE ended though.

>>14557779
Fuck that tropey boring light novel anime wannabe bull shit. I've read erotica more interesting. What's the fucking point if I've seen that exact scenario in everything from GoT to hentai? Why waste the paper it's printed on. Either cut it and get to some interesting stuff or make some actual use of the down time. Is there no Inn in all of fucking fantasy with two rooms open or 1 room with 2 beds?! For the love of fucking out loud but your garbage back where it came from, and I k ow you wrote it,

So I've been trying to find a story I read long ago and would like to read again. It's sci-fi, about a ship above a planet that needs to interact with something on the surface. The problem is that the atmosphere is composed of pure pressurized oxygen and a diamond tether they let down ignites and burns. They also have trouble with devices they send to the surface being destroyed by ocean-going hyperpredators.

>>14564055
>Is there no Inn in all of fucking fantasy with two rooms open or 1 room with 2 beds

>Within a couple days get a backlog of huge ass books I want to read and have no idea where to start
Well shieeet mang

>>14564443
Pick two books you've had for a while and then flip a coin.

>>14564443
Number all the books you havent read, then go to some random number generator website and have it pick for you

I just finished the Belgariad and it was really bad and drawn out

I want to find Ivan Efremov "The Bull's Hour".
I'm lost, sorry.

>>14565100
http://93.174.95.29/_ads/B4A10768DE12DC80A39CB2C69AD81313

are these books any good?
https://www.amazon.com/Sarah-Hawke/e/B00DH1LJLS%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

>>14565111
Gracias

>>14565100
My Russian is very poor. There is a english or spanish translation?

>>14564932
Everything Eddings is just one or two books recycled

>>14561020
Finished Stations of the Tide. A nice read, almost like a PKD cousin in terms of how weird it became at times.

>>14565128
Only read amazons pledge and enjoyed it actually.
Came in looking for smut and stayed for the story.

>>14565128
I'm with >>14566129 on Amazon's Pledge. Amazon's Vengeance is more plot heavy than the first series and the smut seems a bit like an afterthought, but by that point you'll be more into the actual story itself than the fucking. Ranger-General's Submission started off really smut heavy with the first short story with a bare semblance of a plot, but the sequel went the opposite and I honestly preferred it. I'm working through Spider-Queen right now since Amazon's Vengeance ties into it, I like it.

Anyone ever added a book to goodreads? I need to add the manga I've been reading to stick to my reading challenge pace

>>14566315
I think you are supposed to ask /a/ that, and which site you should be putting that material on.

>>14557343
That OP could be better.

>>14559904
Depends on the elf.

>>14563020
Based

>>14559516
That guy/shittard is a troll. Just ignore

>>14566457
But those are excellent books.

>>14557729
Thank you for making my day, anon

>>14566367
who

>>14557729
This is how i've read it and i understood pretty much everything
The First two Erekose books (Eternal Champion and Phoenix in Obsidian)
The First four Elric books (From Elric of Melnibone to the Weird of the White Wolf)
The First four Dorian Hawkmoon books (The Jewel in the Skull to The Runestaff)
The Oswald Bastable trilogy
The Warhound and the World's Pain
The First three Corum books (The Swords Trilogy)
The last four Elric books (from the Vanishing Tower to Stormbringer)
The last three Corum books (The Prince with the Silver Hand trilogy)
The last three Dorian Hawkmoon books (The Count Brass trilogy)
A Quest for Tanelorn is the last books of Dorian Hawkmoon and the original ending to the Eternal Champion Cycle.
after a quest for tanelorn you can read The Dargon in the Sword, the third erekose novel which technically happens before a Quest for Tanelorn but it was meant to read afterwards.

There are other novels like The Ice Schooner, The Sundered Worlds and the Dancers at the End of Time Series etc but you can read those whenever you want since they are not core novels to the cycle.
>https://www.goodreads.com/series/40846-eternal-champion
The Omnibus order is pretty accurate but it has some filler books like Kane of old Mars

>>14566315
>factoring in manga into your reading challenge
yuck

>page 9
can't believe /sffg/ is fucking dead

>>14567846
I stopped checking the thread after we had an autistic pol poster all week long

how is this still the best series about vampires?

not much into sci-fi, but i've read The Sparrow recently and it was good. not intending to read the sequel though.
original and unusually realistic at parts, the alien races were interesting but not quite my type.
anyone else found it just lacking something but not sure what exactly?

>>14566315
It's rather annoying to add them. Would not recommend.

I'm looking to start one of the following series:

Stormlight
The first law
The belgariad

Any recommendations?

>>14567857
>>reddit

>>14568100
bad by book 3
bad by 50% through book 3
bad

Read first law I guess since the author's shown talent since

>>14568100
>>14564932

>>14567950
>dude what if I go in the past and give myself the journal so I become an author instead of a vampire

Awful twist awful ending. Salem’s Lot is a better vampire book than this.

>>14557347
I already do all of this. There is nothing good out there today.
>>1980's and before tend to be less pozzed
This also seems to be the case and it has never failed. It's scary how fast culture and society change, and for the worst I might add.

>>14568135
Turns out you were born after it all changed.

>>14568135
Read xianxia

pls come back dinoposter

just finished name of the wind and hp series. any reccomends for a new high fantasy violent novel i can read?

>>14568155
pls stay gone name assigner

>>14566811
We are here to discuss sci-fi and (mostly shitty) fantasy not thots.

>>14566315
Have you considered it may already be there but you are really bad at searching for it? Name one.

>>14568192
Why post them then?

>>14568251
To get the discussion moving naturally.
Let me demonstrate.
I just finished River of London by Ben Aaronovitch and while the writing was good and it did grab my attention the constant (and dare I say very British) political correctness got on my nerves. The book is something along the lines of a Dresden novel written by a BBC committee.
And then BAM - a hot piece of ass to top it all.

>>14568291
People are not a garnish.

>>14568307
What people?

>>14568147
Which ones are complete, that isnt censored CCP shit, that I can download in one complete volume to read as I travel so I dont have to read online faggot translation blogs with 20000000000000 chapters

>>14567857
I stopped checking the thread after we had an autistic reddit poster (You) all month long

>>14568323
>women are not people
-2/10

>>14568192
>>14568291
>>14568323
I want to coom to this semen demon, give name

>>14568326
The ones that some /lit/ anon compiled himself and made threads about doing so and posted the epubs he made.

>>14568338
The name is in all 3 images.

>>14568326
Renegade immortal just finished

>>14567857
what pol poster
>>14568347
I havent seen that at all

>>14568331
Don't be such a basedboy. There is no need to defend m'ladies honor. It's just photos. Besides I think she would like me posting her ass.

>>14568338
Are you for real?

>>14568379
yeah name of the jap

>>14568370
Search the archive then. I don't care about them so I didn't pay that much attention.

>>14568379
>"it's just photos!" he screamed as he was taken away for cp

>>14568420
May also be elsewhere by now or other people done similar if you do a general search as well.

NK Jemisin

>>14568435

>>14568634
any decent sci-fi or fantasy books with qt azn gurl characters? Or how to get a azn gf?

whats some fantasy with a "tragic hero"?

>>14568100
>awful
>shitty ending but some good moments
>Tedious, dull, unremarkable characters and an extremely generic story

>>14568924
Thomas Covenant

>>14569030
>Clench Racing

>This is a social and competitive sport, that can be played over and over with renewed pleasure. Playing equipment currently on the market restricts the number of players to six, but the manufacturers may yet issue the series of proposed supplements to raise the maximum eventually to nine.

>The rules are simple. Each player takes a different volume of The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, and at the word "go" all open their books at random and start leafing through, scanning the pages. The winner is the first player to find the word "clench". It's a fast, exciting game – sixty seconds is unusually drawn-out – and can be varied, if players get too good, with other favourite Donaldson words like wince, flinch, gag, rasp, exigency, mendacity, articulate, macerate, mien, limn, vertigo, cynosure.... It's a great way to get thrown out of bookshops. Good racing!

>>14568924
Bakker

Recently finished the original Earthsea trilogy and really dug them. I heard the other Earthsea books aren't that good? What else can scratch that style itch? Nobody else does Archipelago sailing wizards, right?

>>14568928
bruh the ending is what made First Law go from good to great

>>14568100
The belgariad is the most cliche fantasy setting you can get

>>14564932
>Drawn out
How? There are tons of critiques you can give it, but drawn out really isn't one of them.

>>14568192
Who is this? Saucenao gives nothing.

>>14569998
A patreon thot obviously

>>14570022
What kind of patreon thot goes to the effort of renting a room like this?

I need the best orphan/farm boy-chosen one-coming of age fantasy

>>14570123
eragon

>>14570123
Xianxia has lots of em

>>14568924
Plenty of such stories 8n xianxia, like the immortal and martial dual cultivation I am reading

Any good scifi stories about isolation/deep space exploration/cosmic horror?

>>14570123
Codex Alera

/r/ing that pic of the guy criticizing brandon sandershit and basically calling his books literary video games

>>14570123
star wars

>>14569526
Yeah. A failed "literary" author (and convicted child abuser, the state took his kids because he and his wife were keeping them in cages) churning out the most generic potboilers to cash in on the 70s LotR craze.

Liked it as a dumbass teenager who'd read anything but as a adult it's flaws are very obvious and there are better things to spend your time on.

>>14569925
I mean it was originally intended to be a trilogy but his editor/publisher told him nobody would buy 600 page genre books (it was a different time) so it got split into 5.

>>14570379
>books literary video games
Isn't that why people read them?

>>14570794
I read books for literary anime. Almost all books are improved by imagining their events as anime.

Is this worth reading before watching the HBO show?

>>14570843
Literally every screen adaptation of a Stephen King work has been dogshit, up to and including Dark "Nigger Roland" Tower. Save yourself the pain.

>>14557343
>What's your favorite character duo?
Louis Wu and Speaker to Animals

Are there any good books about big ass monsters?

>>14570847
1408 was based.

>>14570208
The expanse series has some space exploration and even a bit of cosmic horror to it, it lacks isolation unless being on a small ship with a crew is considered isolation

>>14569925
The first two books and the last book are completely unnecessary

>>14567950
>Not the OG vampire story

>>14557343
So I’ve been passing these few paragraphs around multiple crit threads for the past couple of days, and I wanted to submit my latest edition here. Any form of criticism is welcome.

>>14560277
..bbut patchouli smells good...

jeffery epstein didnt kill himself

>>14570972
I'm trying to figure out if this is top-tier bait or bottom-tier writing.
If it's the latter then calm the fuck down with all he commas, you don't need one in every single sentence.

>>14570847
I agree with you that it didn't make sense casting Roland as black since race becomes an integral part of Susannah/Odetta/Detta's backstory and characterization, and it would be weird to explore it while ignoring Roland, that being said, why give a shit about Idris? How can a racist like yourself even like Dark Tower with Susannah's story being prominent throughout all books besides 1 and 4?

>>14571008
But of the prose? The tone? The writing BESIDES the commas?

>>14570972
Congrats on describing scenery as your opening that no one will care about in the slightest and decide not to read any further beyond that. If you don't start with with action, then you're dead.

>>14570887
>unless being on a small ship with a crew is considered isolation

Def counts. wish there was a space equivalent of heart of darkness.

>>14560475
Hard to Be a God is about modern humans with future technology lording over a medieval shithole.

>>14569387
They're good, but they're quite different from the first.

>>14570379
This one?

>>14571029
Fuck off nigger.

>>14570971
>not THE OG vampire story

>>14570972
Too many commas. In first lines you've quite adequately describe a landscape, but given nothing to catch the readers attention

>>14570123
Book of the New Sun, why even bother asking?

>they had had enough
>had had
How does one prevent this kind of thing?

>>14571366
they'd had enough

they'd h'enough

>>14571366
change the entire tense of your story so you can say they have had enough

>>14571366
>>14571372
>>14571385
I've certainly had enough of this.

>>14571372
>>14571385
>>14571416
Is this kind of thing permissible if its from the 1st person where the main guy is kind of uneducated or something? I am reading Port of Shadows and its all first person usually and this fits his speaking style.

>>14571510
No. Don't do do it. All that broken text shit to try and characterize is complete cringe, hopefully new authors won't pick up that crutch. It reads like shit, regardless of how many authors have used it before.

>>14571366
>how does one prevent tenses of English?
Write in Hungarian or something I guess

Been enjoying this bros. Are the other novels just as good? Gonna replay the first two games after this I think, and then move onto the third.

Sorry if it's not exactly on-topic. But I'm looking for the title of this book in pic related. I found the spell online: http://com-bos.wikidot.com/interlock-internet-spell but the website contact is down.
Can a anon help me out?

Why don't we get meme pics about stuff that concerns the general anymore? We used to get a new macro almost every month, haven't seen a new one in at least a year.
I remember the more aspiring authors we got, the more new pics came out until the hungry artists left sffg. Now this place is infested with starving writers and nonreading pols.

>>14572197
Because spamming retarded forced memes is just spamming.

>>14571871
Roadside picnic

>>14572113
Are you a 12 year old girl from 2004?

>>14572197
Probably because everyone is a phone poster nowadays desu. Anyway I made this for you.

>>14572343
Phoneposters are the worst. Fucking cucks.

Drem't a dog bot my balls off. Felt very real.

>young male protagonist finds out that he has some dark superhuman powers
>instead of getting excited about it gets upset and wants to be a regular human with no superpowers instead
is there a more unrealistic trope?

>>14572378
>guy with no future prospects gets portal’d to a vibrant fantasy world. Spends the whole time he’s there whining about getting back.

>>14572378
>young male protagonist who is a loser in his world is transported to another world that is objectively better for him
>He wants to return to his old world instead of making the most out of the new world
This one is probably about on par.

>>14572378
Fell for the WoT meme?

>>14572512
literally name 1 good fantasy book where this isnt the case

>>14557347
You let the anti-lib sentiment replace your entire character.

>>14572343
kys

>>14572598
Literally *any* good book

>>14571366
They had enough

>Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion on bookshelf
>Local Library has those and Rise of Endymion
Guess I can't read Simmons-sama yet.

>>14572931
Try Ilyum/Olympos. It goes fucking nuts, it's amazing.

>>14571029
I am a racist, I don't like niggers, trannies, faggots, and more. With that said, it's possible to dislike something and still be okay with it being in a story. What I REALLY hate, though, is niggers, trannies, faggots, etc who are in a story just for the sake of "diversity" or multiculturalism."
What I hate the most, though, is when a previously white/straight/male/whatever character becomes black/female/faggot/whatever for no reason at all other than to piss off white people and push diversity propaganda. It's even worse in this case since, as you say, Roland's race is a huge mover for the story.

Fuck Nigris Elba. This is at least the second time he's taken a role that does this shit (Heimdall). Nigger ought to be ashamed of himself, if only niggers were capable of shame.

>>14573588
based honest racist

Blindsight was interesting

>>14573588
based and redpilled

I am now reading machine translated web novels

Where has my life gone wrong

>>14573588
Is this pasta? Because I really , really like it

>>14573962
No, I wrote it myself just now. Buy my book. It's on sale now. Find me in /sffg/.

>>14573962
It's a little too short desu

>>14574187
I intend to actually write a book that contains a lot of shit like this, maybe I'll expand it when I do.

>>14574253
So it'll be a book of rants? That's not to say that's a bad thing, but will it just be that?

>>14570972
wrong thread

>>14574296
No, I think it's going to be about a guy who hates society and occasionally there will just be chapters about him posting on 4chan.

Fuck pol. Can't wait to impregnate as much white women as possibly, and reading sff to my children at night, to make pol mad and my children get a daddy fetish.

Day of the rope when?

>>14573588
simple as

>>14574385
well you get to it asap cus far right parties are gaining more and more popularity in the western world. Your days are counted, soz bro

BOY I SURE DO LOVE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY

>>14574616
But this is a thread for virgins of every race to screech at each other

>>14574827
RECOMMEND ME SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY ABOUT THAT

if my novel ever gets a movie adaptation im going to make sure that the only roles black people get are of the creatures whose name i havent decided yet but they're basically really ugly and dumb

>>14572286
I legitimately know several full grown women who truly believe in Wicca who honestly play at spells and are convinced actual witches died in Salem.

One of them is a local low level politician. Another is a fucking college professor.

>>14572378
>normal, average person discovers they have super powers and immediately tries to use them to help others/be a hero
>rather than use them entirely for their on gain

I hate pol so fucking much. They are filthy hypocrites. Nothing worse than a hypocrite who blames others for the shit they do. I can't wait for 1984 to be fully realized in America, and all the pol posters will be tracked down and sent ro reeducation camps.

>>14573588
>it's possible to dislike something and still be okay with it being in a story
>What I REALLY hate, though, is [...] etc who are in a story just for the sake of "diversity" or multiculturalism."
so when is it okay? what makes it done for the sake of diversity? can you give examples?

how does an author lose integrity? is it when they're rich? when they're famous? is it because they feel like they have nothing left to prove?
i always felt like the reason people wrote stories was because of a burning in their heart that demanded them to. if that's true, do they lose that fire? where does it come from to begin with?

>>14575308
You seem upset that he isn't going to publish your long awaited last 2 books.

>>14575308
>implying marting actually wrote the books
>implying he isnt just a face and the books are really just focus tested and written by poorly paid interns.

>>14573588
>What I hate the most, though, is when a previously white/straight/male/whatever character becomes black/female/faggot/whatever for no reason at all other than to piss off white people and push diversity propaganda.
This is almost never true and is just your conception of society as a triggered incel. Casting directors pick people for their genuine talent and potential for a role first, then sometimes to increase representation to grow a fanbase to include minorities or just widen their audience.
Have you tried ignoring race? If your issue isn't when a minorities are characters in a story where their place in society isn't a theme or of importance, then you should be just fine in a story like the dark tower movie (shitty as it was) as no one gave a single shit that Roland was black. Sure, ignoring his race wouldn't had made sense if a sequel with Susannah came along, but you taking issue with Idris's race in that bland, muddy mess of a film where no one stands out doesn't make any logical sense

>>14575407
Damn bro do u read detectives howd you figure this out

>>14575220
rent free ;)

>>14575445
Sacrificing accuracy for """talent""" and diversity is fucking retarded.

>>14575445
>Casting directors pick people for their genuine talent and potential for a role first
People actually believe this?

>>14575098
Is this a bruh moment?

>>14570903
>The first two books are the party gathering and the development of characters
>The last book is the final battle
They are totally necessary, are you kidding? Belgariad is complete cliche, and relies entirely on character appeal, which is what the first two novels do. The last one is the completion of like a dozen arcs.

Is the Curse of Chalion sequel/follow up set in the same world similar in tone/plot to it?

I really liked it but I'm not sure if I want to read another book like it right away.

>>14575534
Yes, Paladin of Souls is very similar in style and tone and happens a few years after Curse. It goes deeper into the supernatural than Curse of Chalion, too.

>>14575544
Thanks, I'm gonna take a breather then and find something quick and easy to read.
I left too many books unfinished last year and don't want to get into the habit again because man is it hard to go back to something once you've moved on.

>>14575575
One book at time. If you don't like it, drop it, move on, and forget about it.

>>14575445
>Casting directors pick people for their genuine talent and potential for a role first

Ahahaha

>>14575291
>can you give examples?
I'll give one. It should be enough.
>Pic related: good faggot
>Mizhena from Dragonspear: bad faggot

One character is a fully fleshed out person with a backstory, ideals, and goals. The other is a faggot who clearly exists only to tell you about his tranny dick because the fat ugly writer wanted to make you hear about that sort of thing for political reasons.
>>14575220
You seem quite mad.
>>14575445
>This is almost never true
Stopped reading here. If you say something this wrong in your first sentence, there's no way the rest of it is worth my time.

New thread in a while or something like that.

>>14575098
>women are stupid
more news at 11

>tfw my magnum opus is painfully cartoony trash
>tfw it can't be YA/middlegrade because of the constant profanity.

I really should have stuck with the policy I used in my first book where I avoided swearing so I would be forced to use more creative profanity

NEW THREAD
>>14576261
NEW THREAD