/lit/ - Literature

Can you really not see the difference?

Love is beyond "equal exchange." To everyone a dollar is a dollar. But the right woman for me isn't the same as yours. Hope that clears things up.

>>14550442
Based and actually illuminatingpilled

Because contemporary "marxists" are actually crypto-neoliberals, who support free market in economics and in the bedroom

>>14550425
because free market economies are inherently destructive and free sexual "markets" aren't

The sexual market i suppirt is my white weewee in caits asjan hole

Because Marx is a liberal. He only hates free market capitalism precisely because it doesn't allow to exercise real individual freedom.

A lot of it also has to do with the fact that traditional family structure used to be useful for pre-industrial life. Your entire life was linked to someone else’s land, there was no such thing as “moving” to do work. Some craftsmen might’ve done it, such as armorers, blacksmith, masons, etc, but most people just did rural work. Then industrialization happened and the traditional family structures started to lag back the new mode of production, but many traits (such as monogamy and wedding) are still present. Don’t fall for contemporary Christians saying they “support the traditional family”, they don’t. They’ve also evolved, look at Anglo families. Three hundred years ago no kid would move out of their parents house. They’d live with their family (which back then also meant what we call “extended family” today), toil, partake in communal events and die. Marxists want some of the traditional structures to fall apart because they belong to what they perceive to be an outdated societal structure.

>>14550527
The final redpill is that marx is based and right wing. Anyone who apologizes for sucking up to capitalists or monarchs or bosses or whatever is a cuck.

>>14550442
no change is equal. aristotle is a faggoty for say this. and lefits is retard for buy that shit.

>>14550548
Lmao he's not right wing in any way. You can if you want take his critique of capitalism alone, but the communism he preached is as left wing as you can be

>>14550425
A Marxist wouldn't view sexual relations as something that exists as a market, or ought exist as a market. If anything, they would view such a perspective as a form of commodity fetishism (maybe not the exact definition, but a similar sentiment), and a product of the capitalist system.

Read Fourier and/or Living Currency

>>14550580
>sexual dinamics can't be viewed in economic terms.
ok retard.

>>14550442
you don't need to be unique to fit in a hole. if you were right people would be so promiscuous.

>>14550425
I agree. Too many poor people can destroy your society, just as too many incels can. We need state mandated titties to suck on.

>>14550517
it’s literally the opposite

>>14550442
Literally can say the same about free trade commodities

>>14550425
This is literally the theme of atomised by Houellebecq

>>14551230
Except commodities can be exchanged for dollars and therefore have equal exchanges even if a particular commodity is more useful to one person than another.

>>14550425
Rent seeking is the exact opposite of a free market.
Plenty of Marxists seek to abolish rent but not free markets otherwise.

>>14550442
isn't that the entire idea of so called 'bourgeois' economics?
that the people making the exchange both receive more value from the exchange? e.g I value having a phone or whatever more than I value having however much money it cost me.
I mean, I get where you're going with that, and would generally agree that love can't really be quantified in the same way as things traded in markets, but It could probably be phrased a bit differently
>>14550517
both are destructive in exactly the same way
I don't mean that as a moral claim though, whether that destruction is a good thing or a bad thing is up to your discretion

>>14551293
Rent as in what a landlord and tenant do is not rent seeking

>>14550609
They can be, of course, but the fact that economic markets are your first and last way to understand them is a sign that capitalism has seriously harmed your psyche
It is not normal or healthy to see human interaction as 100% transactional, that's why you (should) instinctively recoil in disgust when you see tumblr trannies talk about their friends like therapists and using stilted phrases about "self-care" and shit like that