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Is this actually a good book?

>> No.14543498
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>>14543486
Of course not.

>> No.14543588

Yes.

>> No.14543647

I'm halfway in and I'm not really blown away.
Somehow it seems like a discount Evola who tells me how things where. It is a lot of: "dude it was totally like this, trust me."
I had an argument about it with an anon in another thread some while ago about this. My poínt was that he makes some broad strokes about how things where and sometimes these aren't very much based on historic reality.
And if that isn't accurate then the book doesn't offer much for me. I guess the /sig/ parts are useful when you want to sculpt yourself after the image of the old heroes but if thats the message then I would have wanted the focus to be more on that.

>> No.14543670

>>14543486
Mediocre. The prose is good and engaging, but the vast majority of it's arguments fall flat when you actually allow yourself to think about them for a moment.

>> No.14543689

Yes. He has a good podcast too.

>> No.14543778

>>14543647
>these aren't very much based on historic reality.
He literally says he's not convinced Indonesia and Baha California aren't the same place and there's a secret train that goes from Tokyo to London in two hours, I don't think he was terribly concerned with convincing you how or what people in the past actually thought
So sick of these room temperature IQ faggots taking the title of the book so literally

>> No.14543798

>>14543778
So it is one big LARP?
Got it.

>> No.14543804

It's genuine midwit filter. Dumbasses read it and are happy at the thought of going full Grug, Big Brains read it and agree with his societal criticisms and the broad strokes of his solutions. Midwits, meanwhile, scared to think outside of System enforced norms, recoil at his ideas, horrified of the thought of not doing what they're told by their Social Betters.

>> No.14543839

>>14543804
Right wing politics is a midwit filter in general for basically the same reason.

>> No.14543872

>>14543839
i don't appreciate you downgrading our people who have been inbreeding since the times of Charlemagne. gotta keep the blood pure and keep those coloreds out of society. Even though most of us do nothing with our lives we can take pride in the genius like Shakespeare without having read a lick of him.

>> No.14543916

>>14543804
>>14543839
(The funny thing is that when I've said this to leftists, they dont realize I'm saying the right is full of shitheads with a little elite of Jimmy Neutron niggas trying to explain the value of decency to people who perform penis modifications on babies for a religion they hardly follow)
>>14543872
Who is this "our people"? The youtibe bitch's sister says am .5% Cypriot. I am ASIAN.

>> No.14543924

>>14543804
t. midwit

>> No.14543930

>>14543872
>rich billionaires import niggers by the millions to make more money
>this person thinks "wow i must defend this system against evil internet racists"
very radical my friend

>> No.14543951

>>14543930
hell yea brother. those inbred billionaires are trying to destroy the silk fabric of perfection. AMEN AMEN

>> No.14543959

>>14543951
Show me one rightist who doesn't think his race is rife with degenerate retards.

>> No.14543973

>>14543959
brother dont be so cruel to your fellow brothers. we are all made in god's image like my momma, who is my sis too, once said to me when she tucked me in my bed of hay in the days of old. Read the word of the lord and expel that hatred with love. AMEN AMEN.

>> No.14543984

>>14543951
>>14543959
Actually BAP described himself as having "terminal autism" and decries "ethnonarcissism", which I imagine is mostly indulged in by literal narcissists.
>>14543973
Try being nice unironically lmao.
IT'S OKAY TO BE NICE

>> No.14543985

>>14543798
At no point does he suggest he himself embodies the "spirit" or "mindset" he talks of, and he explicitly states his readers have no opportunity to embody it either. So no, it's not a LARP. He's simply saying that in the past there have been men who conceived of and lived life in a vastly different way then most modern men can imagine, and some of their feats were so extraordinary they're comparable to myth.

>> No.14544036

>>14543985
So all men used to be Conan?

>> No.14544041

>>14543486
Is it better than Mein Kampf?

>> No.14544054

>>14543804
>brains read it and agree
Midwit shibboleth'd

>> No.14544080

>>14543985
>He's simply saying that in the past there have been men who conceived of and lived life in a vastly different way then most modern men can imagine, and some of their feats were so extraordinary they're comparable to myth.
I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to take from the book. On the one hand he invokes some sort of neanderthal aesthetic with the first 1-2 chapters which he then drops and continuous to tell legends which I'm not supposed to take for real as stated here >>14543778
So what is it? A critique on society yes but it is based on myth and legend he himself doesn't take serious?

I haven't finished the book so I'm not sure if there is some bigger reveal and shift in tone and purpose of the book then I really don't feel it. First half has been a complete waste of time for me.

>> No.14544158

>>14543486
quite entertaining if you're into airport books

>> No.14544296

>>14544036
No. But in the past there were men like Conan. Now there are none, besides maybe Neall Ellis.
>>14544080
The lines between myth and history are purposefully blurred. He wants you to take the myths seriously, just not in the sense of "hurrrr CAN WE VERIFY THIS REALLY HAPPENED?!?!?"

>> No.14544405

>>14543778
its postpostirony bro its just a prank bro its just metacommentary bro its just clown fascism bro

>> No.14544421

>>14543804
me read book me smart
me poopy in public park me don't follow social betters

>> No.14544697

it literally makes no sense. It's a stream of consciousness ancient epic prose wannabe tier, with vague references to mythological imagery and useless name dropping. Even entire paragraphs describing nothing in particular.
To be fair I read like 5% of it, because I can't go 2 pages without dropping it.

>> No.14544744

>>14543486
What is it about?

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>>14544744
Having fun at the beach.

>> No.14545037

It's a book-length shitpost by an erudite /fit/izen repulsed by the modern world. An "exhortation" to male beauty and vitality. I found it fun and inspiring.

>>14544968
Based.

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>>14543804

>> No.14545159

>>14544744
lifting and women having cooties

>> No.14545331

>>14543798
You unironically just proved his point you actual retard.

>> No.14545339

>>14543498
post body

>> No.14545351

>>14545159
Sounds based and correct.

>> No.14545467

>>14543498
HOW ARE YOU SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT I CANT BELIEVE ITS INADVERTANT HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK POSTING A FAKE BOOK A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IS IN ANY WAY A REFUTATION OR EVEN A SUBSTANTIVE REPLY TO SOMEBODY ASKING A REAL BOOK

A REAL BOOK YOU COW

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE DEFINITIVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A RETARD NO NOT IN A MEME WAY MEANING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING BUT IN THE MEDICAL SENSE OF YOU ARE LITERALLY RETARDED THE CHEMICOPHYSICAL PROCESSES OF YOUR BRAIN ARE NOT SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED PROPER COGNITION

YOU ARE MEDICALLY OBJECTIVELY UNINTELLIGENT AND ON TOP OF POSSESSING A DEFUNCT MIND YOU ALSO POSSESS AN UGLY SOUL AND YOUR POSTS ARE FURTHER OBJECTIVE PROOF OF THIS. YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE THAT BY POSTING YOUR ASININE LITTLE MAKE-BELIEVE BOOK YOU ARE INADVERTANTLY CONFESSING THAT TO YOU LITERATURE IS MERELY A COSMETIC . ON TOP OF THAT YOUR LITTLE NON REAL BOOK IS NOTHING BUT A GLIB INVERSION OF AN ACTUAL CREATIVE EVENT, JUST LIKE SATAN WHO CAN ONLY INVERT AND RUIN WHAT THE GOOD HAS CREATED AND IS INCAPABLE OF PRODUCING ANYTHING FROM HIS OWN AGENCY . YOU CONTRIBUTE NOTHING YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING BECAUSE FOR YOU ALL INTELLECTUAL ACTIVITY FAILS TO RISE ABOVE THE LEVEL OF FRIVOLOUS SOCIAL SIGNALING

YOU ARE THE VAPID MADE MANIFEST YOU ARE A SLAVE OF THE REALM OF APPEARANCE YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF PENETRATING ANY DEEPER INTO MEANING KANT IS AN ETERNAL ENIGMA TO YOU

ES SCORTUM OBSCENUS VILIS

>> No.14545658

>>14543647
>Discount Evola
He explains why he disagrees with Evola and Guenon in the book.

>> No.14545840

>>14543872
>genius
>shakespeare
I take that you haven't read him either?

>> No.14545847

>>14545467
How trite.

>> No.14545965

>>14545467
>A FAKE BOOK A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IS IN ANY WAY A REFUTATION
My words alone will do that. The “fake book” is my “my diary desu”
and I may just write it

>>14545339
No.

>> No.14546105

>>14543872
Shakespeare was half-black half-asian

>> No.14546193

>>14543486
I preferred bap's response to a critic. I think it is better than the book:

https://americanmind.org/essays/americas-delusional-elite-is-done/