/lit/ - Literature

Corpulent consumerism. Yes.

>>14541397
This is the market at work, and if you don't like it - you're a commie.

And they say race doesn't exist

>>14541407
Yes, if by "market" you mean "shut up while we have a conversation about your re-education, you counterrevolutionary dog".

>>14541424
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO BE TOLERANT!!!

>>14541424
They're just trying to sell more clothes to fatties, which is a massive demographic nowadays - and always growing.

>>14541462
why should we be tolerant of fat ""people"" ?

>>14541407
>>14541463
As a fairly libertarian -socially and economic- person this type of stuff has been a hard realization of what unchecked market degeneracy looks like

>>14541424
It's just a private company appealing to their target demographic to make money and create more jobs, not much else to it.
Viewing this as some sort of "re-education program" is peak tin-foil-hat-wearing shit.

>>14541468
Because they are people nonetheless. You will fade from your prime some day also

>>14541472
You're free to craete your own company and use its marketing platform to promote views you deem worthy.
That's if you can compete, of course. If you can't compete and still whine - that's a different story. Why would successful people pay attention to some whining loser?

>>14541472
You think they should censor an ad for underwear just because it has a fat black woman in it? Lol

>>14541478
>You will fade from your prime some day also
yeah ill get old because thats outside of my control
not gorging like a fukcing pig however is.

>>14541488
people are wired differently and come from different backgrounds

>>14541468
Because they are paying customers, loser

>>14541484
>>14541487
lmao look at how defensive this place is of fat people. feel attacked huh? anyway degenerate ideas that are extremely harmful for the environment should certainly be publicly shamed if not made outright illegal

>>14541491
Deterministic drivel. just eat less calories then you burn.

roly-poly relativism

>>14541501
yeah man biology is that simple

Reminder that capital make poor people fat and then turn their fatness into a commodity

>>14541495
Idgaf about fat-asses, but seething over how market works is retarded.

>>14541397
Trying to sell shit to a new market. Simple as that.

>>14541510

>>14541397
The philosophy behind that picture:
"Nothing Changes We Only Pretend To"

To become a female fashion model you must be tall, have a cute face and be just a half step away from full blown anorexia. It's just the way it is, maybe because it's an industry run by faggots who hate women idk, and that will never change. So an healthy and beautiful female body, the one that males actually consider attractive, will never make it to the runway.
In order to get away with that the fashion system once in a blue moons puts in the spotlight an ugly obese girl pretending she's good for the fashion system and they are good guys.
In reality, the rejection of the healthy feminine body is even more total: you either can be a proper model (walking skeleton) or that ugly fat thing that doesn't go even near to have an actual career and basically is put there to shame.
Literature equivalent just any book about propaganda or PR.

>>14541513
>Reminder that the captains of the industry are very successful at their job of feeding people
You should thank them and kiss their feet. Or would you rather starve in a bread line, faggot?

>>14541397
No. For some unknown reason the greats all like the "typical" ideal of man or woman. Maybe to be normal is to be know.

>>14541397

>>14541518
nope

>>14541468
Nope. Ugly people have ugly consciousness

>>14541575
Did you learn nothing from Shallow Hal?

>>14541576
And you from Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Or the Iliad.

Easy, Shaniquas be shoppin, Everything else is a >NOOOOO, THATS NOT MUH PURE MARKETERIIIINOOOOO libertarian cope.

>>14541463
>massive demographic
lmao

>>14541397
They did it to trigger you fatso

>>14541397
have a look at the winners of this year's booker prize and t s eliot prize

>>14541661
Thersites Was Right.

>>14541407
cultural marxism and economic capitalists have joined forces to reduce all of humanity to an homogenous mass of pink haired consumer cattle. Leftists have abandoned the heroic worker and the new soviet man, for the ideal of the marginalised victim a passive therapeutic object of corporate social engineering. Marxists are effectively the enforcers of lowest common denominator capitalist culture, attacking all assertion of standards as intolerant and non inclusivce.

>>14541407
>>14541677
communists will defend the free market as long as it promotes leftist values like diversity, proving leftism was really about slave morality driven consumerism all along.

>>14542101
This very much. It’s a capitalist system, but with base Marxist sentiments of conviviality. More two faced and less frank in its dealings than rightist capitalism, and likewise less honest in its dealings than a communist state. It’s in the uncanny valley of unwarranted holier than thou

>>14541561
Imagine her being launched at you from a high velocity cannon and you only have 5 seconds to make peace with yourself and whatever you believe in.

>>14541397
As liberalism progresses and its proclamation of the innate equality of peoples slowly expands, it must become increasing detached from reality in order to sustain its implicit assumption that equality of opportunity will lead to equality of outcome. Inevitability, when it does not, it must become increasingly totalitarian and delusional in order to sustain itself. For liberalism to sustain itself, therefore, it must proclaim that the enemy is anybody who disagrees with its increasingly farcical assertions about reality. It must accordingly ostracise who begin to point out basic facts about reality. You therefore end up will absurd billboards like this.

>>14542127
20th century rightists and bolsheviks ultimately relied on christian messianic aspirations and the accompaning ethic of self sacrifice. modern consumer leftism is a withered shell of its former self. Instead of empowered revolutionaries or liberated individuals, you have deracinated monads wracked by guilt and shame, the possibility of redemption having been disposed of along with religious concepts of sin. Instead of a vibrant multiculturalism you have a consumer monoculture, all the hollow ahistorical identities filled with the same spiritually vacant liberal values. All notions of virtue and all standards have been discarded as ''exclusionary'', the only dignity acknowledged by the new culture is that of the mentally ill patient grasping for validation in the authoritarian other represented by social media panopticism and its managerial corporate overlords.

>>14541510
Yes it is. You just eat like a pig.
>t. former fatass

>>14541407
The market demands fat black women?

>>14542247
There are a fuckton of fat black women with gibemdats $$ to spend so the market markets towards them

They are both advertisement meant to take the attention of a group of people and sell them a product. There's no ideology here, unless you think capitalism is an ideology, but in that case you are not worth arguing with.

>>14542251
They make up less than 4% of the total US population.

>>14541522
>you either can be a proper model (walking skeleton) or that ugly fat thing
this is what i hate so much about this. being a photoshopped skeleton is not normal but neither is being obese. they are both harmful and unstustainable

>>14541397
The only book to read is scientific advertising by Claude C. Hopkins. Advertising doesn't make societal trends. It just exploits whatever already existing ripples exist in ways that are profitable. There is nothing truly substantial to be gained from analyzing which ads exist.

>>14541397
We went from an incredible racist&sexist society to an almost tolerant society. Just need to get rid of the 60% really stupid people and republicans.

>>14541397
We owe it to our children to be better stewards of the environment. The alternative? - a world without whales. It's too terrible to imagine.

>>14542251
>>14542247
fat black women are not the target audience of such an ad which is directed to the guilty conscience of white middle class leftists, despeate for an Other-who-still-believes who can justify their conspicuous consumption as somehow progressive and inclusive. Leftists have been reduced from revolutionaries to craven penitents lining up on their knees to buy indulgences from Calvin Klein and the Walt Disney Corporation

>>14542295
Hopelessly naive. That kind of permissiveness totally alienates individuals and when combined with ever increasingly wealth inequality (thanks to the logic of capital,) will always end in slow societal collapse. Those kind of attitudes may be exclusionary, but they help to keep a cohesive society. Even if your rampant individualism doesn’t affect you, it will seriously effect your grandchildren (that is, if you’re not a childfree cultist and do actually decide to have children.)

Due to the politicization of intersectionality, those who traditionally lack social currency are given an over abundance of it in order for the system to be viewed as egalitarian. This culminates in the the worship of the broken person, the obese, ugly, unsuccessful, etc. In some twisted way, authenticity is ascribed to broken people while it is simultaneously stripped from people striving to do better.

An example of this: a bunch of kids grew up in the suburbs and felt like their lives were sheltered and boring. Instead of appreciating what their parents tried to do for them, they decided to go into ghettos which were seen as more authentic. This of course causes gentrification which brings other problems.

But I digress. Authenticity is a better selling point than beauty because our society has stripped traditional sources of authenticity of power. Ie religion, national holidays, etc. So marketers target the perception of authenticity. I doubt shaniqua can afford Calvin Klein’s. But the suburban kid who desires an authentic experience can.

Most fiction is going this route, at least the popular franchises are. HP (through twitter updates) and ASOIAF (through the TV adaptation and some of martins work.)

>>14541397
redwashing has been the dominant narrative of global capital since 2008, it's attempting to legitimize itself since it no longer can reliably deliver the constantly improving standard of living that couldn't be guaranteed by socialism

>>14542464
while you raise some excellent point you need to get out of the house more

>>14541397
Instead of building a world where everyone strives for one particular ideal of perfection, we create a more human ideal of living, where we understand ourselves not solely in our struggle to achieve what we have been told to achieve, but to strive to achieve the best versions of ourselves. We have to realize who we are, and who we can be. We have to understand who we want to be and why. We have to understand who writes the stories we tell our children and what that does to us.

>>14541397
Population is being replaced. So the target consumers are replaced. 2019 pic related is the new workforce.

>>14541510
Stop coping fatass

>>14542513
You’re right but I hate you for it. The truth hurts. Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh

>>14542464
I dont disagree with your point wholesale, but I think there is some level if misinterpretation going on here for a lot of other artists. I think we need to challenge what exactly these standards are and who they're set by, and what exactly that means for society. There are some plebeians attempting to cash in on this search for authenticity, but there are plenty of patricians who are actually exploring what it means to have or not have these intersectional oppressions in their lives, and are attempting to build a society where those prejudices and privileges arent as apparent or where these concepts are explored instead of assumed.

>>14542501
>best versions of ourselves?

Cope. Being a fat retard is no one’s “best version of themself”.

>>14542533
White people arent the default, nor have they ever been. We're just reflecting the members of our society, and you're noticing the examples more. Just because people are coming into your country and having children with the people of your race, doesnt mean they are replacing your race. Their race dies out as well. Your whiteness isn't being tainted, your races are being mixed.

>>14542245
any trainer worth his salt will tell you that's grossly oversimplifying it.

>former fatass
let me guess, killing your body on some meme diet?

>>14541407
If you explain that all the serious communists are jews, and that there is no distinction between communism and judaism, you'll be called an antisemite. Or Winston Churchill.

>>14542247
that ad is targeted at white progressives not fat black women, wake up

>>14542557
>just because your country went from overwhelmingly white to whites being a minority withing a single lifespan doesnt mean you are being replaced goy

>>14542557
They are in the societies they created you dense diversity cultist. Why do your kind like to pretend this insanity is perfectly natural and inevitable? Who is paying you? In one hundred years there are still going to be Africans in Africa and Asians and Asia, but there will be a lot less whites in their own countries.

Capitalism.

>>14542597

and that's a good thing

>>14542595
yes that is correct, your delusions being paranoid doesn't make it so

>>14541397
The ideology of /pol/children coming here and crying about the non-literary side effects of consumer capitalism?
I could explain it but we'd all lose a few braincells.

>>14542613
You are pure evil and you know it.

>>14542622
no, you just need to take a break from the internet for a bit

>>14542600
If you'd read this thread you'd understand that capitalism is the best, and it's actually Marxism whenever it features something I don't like.

>>14542538
All societies will have oppression, that is the nature of hierarchy and has been since time primeval. To pretend that we can achieve something else is folk hearty, and to promote domicide of a developed culture in an attempt to create a utopian ideal is disgusting.

>>14542613
>>14542626

Ironic facetiousness such as this, is the death of authentic radicalism.

>>14542626
>>14542626
Yes, when countries turn into new Brazils everyone will be happy and fulfilled. Have you been to Brazil? South Africa? I have and they are corrupt dystopian nightmares unless you’re wealthy. Even then at least they have some societal standards unlike in our countries. You’ve got your head in the sand.

>>14541463
nice

>>14542657
keep fighting the good fight with your voice on 4chan.com!

>>14542412
this, 100% this.

>>14542251
and this too, but not as much. black women don't have money for calvin klein underwear. they are, like always, the animal mascot of progressive ideology but almost never its beneficiary. it's literally an ad designed to make midwit white people feel enlightened. if it were actually aimed at black women, it would be serena williams or whoever selling them underwear. somebody who actually represents an ideal physique. the notion of smashing those ideals did not come from black people, or even woke white people, it came from... elsewhere.

>>14542664
Read Capitalist Realism

>>14541397
>Has the same thing happened in literature?
>rupi kaur
>megan boyle
Yes, the market grasping for bottom tier retards has also happened in literature. But it's always been that way, except now the pulps are self-published on Amazon and bad teenage poetry is suddenly worth reading because a powerful woman wrote it and don't you dare criticize her or hold her to any kind of literary bar.

>>14542683
lol incel

>>14542557
>White people arent the default, nor have they ever been.
>white people in the english/french/german speaking world are not the defealt, nor have they ever been
w e w

>>14542696
>lol incel
why are wypipo so evil oh my g-d

this board fucking sucks now

>>14542710
go back to your hugbox on redd*t

>>14541397
Yes, the truth is that everyone in the world is fucking fat and unhealthy in body and mind

>>14542557
I'm white, I live in an area with 90% white demographics (for now, anyway) and all of my friends are white. We never ever even think about it. I sure don't. I imagine it must be the same for anyone, of whatever colour. They don't wake up and look at their hands and go "Oh, God I am [whatever colour of skin]!" At least I hope not.

>>14542578
Yeah boo whitey no matter what

>>14542744
lol triggered

>>14542752
kek u mad

>>14542761
you sure seem so

>>14541463
Underrated

It's called marketing. Few women are a lithe, elegant model with stunning features. Many women are rotund heavyweights. When selling a product, you naturally tend to want to appeal to as many potential buyers as possible. Therefore your advertisements ought to target the majority.

In the first case 1999 the thought was that the brand would be associated with model-tier beauty, so that frumpy, doughy non-models would think that they could acquire some of that glamor by purchasing that product. Nowadays the tides have shifted, body-positivity and fat pride have taken over; people want to be comfortable in their own skin even if their skin happens to cover an incredibly expanded surface area. So rather than psychologically manipulating the consumer into thinking they will be more model-like if they buy Calvins, instead they show a more "realistic" and relatable picture.

Is it possible that the Jews are so jewed up themselves from constantly trying to jew everybody else that they've actually jewed themselves into thinking the jew shit is real and not just a tool for jewing goys?

What else could explain them sabotaging their own brands and media empires to push jew shit even when it isn't strategic to do so? Has the jew finally jewed himself?

>>14542827
yes

>>14542806
No man it can't be that. It's that they are fatnigress lovers

>>14542635
I only know it's Marxism when (((they))) put different coloured people and women in my video games and movies. I wasn't aware of anything else. Back to Fox News to learn more I go so I don't look stupid next time.

>>14542834
Based, will ironically vote Tucker for #1 Hitler in Charge if he ever runs for office once the kali yuga is officially declared

>>14542827
Yes. Even Rothschild's heiresses are getting blacked
>pic related

>>14541487
Yes.

>>14542854
Is there anything in that paragraph or picture that isn't degenerate?

>>14541522
The women's bodies are chosen to bring out the clothing they are wearing, not to be gawked at themselves for being hot. They're supposed to look like living mannequins

>>14542827
(((They))) worked a work and worked themselves into a shoot brother.

>>14541462
Tolerate my intolerance faggot

>>14542827
>I don't know who's jewing who anymore!

Both capitalism and Marxism are materialist, in pursuit of the same external goods.

>>14542806
Any thoughts on why the same standards don't apply to male models?. We have obese negresses representing the female side but the men are still Justin Bieber and Beckham. Is it that men don't get upset seeing someone better looking than them in an advert, that they're appealing to the majority female buyers by showing them "what they can get", or something else?

Anons who blame corporations for forcing social change are putting the cart before the horse
Nothing is sacred to them, and when a social movement gains momentum theyre the first to make a commodity out of it

Who can deny that the second woman is more likely to be truthful than the first? Personally nothing turns me on more than a nice sack of truthful sitting on the couch like a pile of wet clothes.

>>14542893
I am

>>14542898
Because we are transitioning into a gynecocracy

>>14542904
it's more of an ugly and petty "i couldn't be bothered going to the gym or stuffing my face less" kind of truth than a secrets of the universe or fundamental nature of man kind of truth

>>14541397
Slave morality + capitalism

>>14542938
ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE HER WORK OUT?

SHE LOOKS FINE THE WAY SHE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>14542563
no, literally just less calories in than out.
https://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html
your body obeys the laws of thermodynamics. if you're fat, you overload it with energy. the only diet you need is less calories and better proportions of nutrition. any idiot can do it.

>>14543025
People aren't just walking furnaces you know

>>14543079
What does it even mean?

>>14543370
think about it.

What happens when reality becomes unreal?

>>14541462
>being tolerant of fat people
fat people should die desu

>>14543388
nice

>>14541397
>my truth

>>14543388
hello, boner department?

>>14541397
>Please explain the ideology behind this picture.
The destruction of physical and spiritual ideals and the promotion of the dictatorship of the market. It's the synthesis of Jewish World Bolshevism and international Capitalism--personally I like the term globohomo.

>>14541571

>>14543466
>it just is because kek gives me dubs!

lol okay. We warned you.

>>14542827
Is the more sinister reality the one in which this crap is intentional or the one in which it is unintentional and they actually believe it?

>>14541575
This is the shallow version of the philosophy. The revision is that people who make themselves ugly by their own habits and behaviors should be avoided. Aposematism, gluttony, discordant tattoos, and excessive piercings.

Tattoos can actually be beautiful if someone has a strict vision for a cohesive work of art. Almost all tattoos are decided upon in a span of months and serve as an indelible diary of fleeting interests. This disharmony taking up permanent residence on the body is repulsive.

>>14541397
Easy things are fun.

>>14542827
There is no global Jewish conspiracy. Their actions, as deleterious as they may appear individually, aren't coordinated. They don't hold the same values and ideas.

>>14541487
Is that even a question

>>14541524
lmao look at this bootlicking faggot

>>14542898
>men are still Justin Bieber

Effeminate men in adverts were almost unheard of a few decades ago.

>>14543556
The world’s 14 million Jews think and act like one big family--even though, like most families, they do a lot of arguing and squabbling among themselves. They go to different synagogues--Orthodox and Conservative and Reform--or to no synagogue at all. There are atheist Jews, and there are Jews who have converted to Christianity. There are capitalist Jews and communist Jews, homosexual Jews and heterosexual Jews. There are rich Jews and middle-class Jews and even a few poor Jews, but despite this apparent diversity they do a better job of cooperating with each other and looking out for their common interests than any other ethnic group in the world.

Why is this? Why are Jews more racially conscious than anyone else? Why are they so much more ready to collaborate with each other than members of other groups? Part of the reason is in their religion. It is an ethnocentric religion, a racist religion. Whereas Christianity and Islam, for example, are universalist religions, religions for anyone who chooses to believe in them, Judaism is not. Judaism is a religion only for the Chosen People, only for the circumcised sons of Abraham. Jews are defined in terms of their bloodline, not in terms of their faith, which is why non-religious Jews like Freud or Trotsky or even Marx, the father of atheistic communism, are considered just as much Jews as the most pious synagogue-goer, with sidelocks and yarmulke. The non-religious Jews don’t believe the hocus-pocus in their Torah, or Old Testament, but they nevertheless are steeped in the folklore and traditions of Judaism. They are as familiar as their religious cousins are with the claims that Jews are a Chosen People, destined to own all of the world’s wealth and be waited on hand and foot by non-Jews. And they are familiar with the tales of persecution, from the time of the pharaohs until the time of Hitler: with the tradition of being universally hated by all the other peoples of the world — which is why they believe they are justified in avenging themselves on non-Jews whenever they have the opportunity.

>>14542731
The media they consume tells a different narrative. Blacks are disproportionately victimized in media. Very few black characters are villains. Whites are disproportionately the villains. Asians are lucky to be either the victim or the enemy. They usually get sidelined to a cheerleader, mentor, or comedy relief. Basically only side characters.

You repeat exposure to these themes long enough it starts to shape your perception of the real world. An African American becomes unable to identify with a character if they are not a victim. It becomes an expectation. When they try to forge an identity for themselves in the world, the models they look up to and emulate are all victims or obsessed with victim culture. That's why so many blacks gatekeep their upbringing. It's implicit that you cannot be black if you aren't a victim or defined by opposition to victimisation.A

>>14543603
The second thing for us to understand about the Jews is their very unusual mode of existence, living nearly everywhere as a small minority among other peoples. If one looks at their history in the Biblical period, they were at most times a people on the move, living as strangers and aliens among other peoples, getting kicked out of one place after another, always on terms of enmity with the Gentile host population. Only for a little over 400 years, from approximately the time of King David until the Babylonian conquest, did they really have a national existence in the ordinary sense of the word, with geographical borders. When the Babylonians dispersed the Jews throughout the Middle Eastern and the Mediterranean world in the middle of the sixth century BC, the Jews adapted amazingly well to being a minority everywhere and a majority nowhere. Five hundred years later, in the first century BC, the Greek writer Strabo commented:

“The Jews have penetrated every country, so that it is difficult to find any place in the world where their tribe has not entered and become dominant.”

The great geographer and historian Strabo was not the only scholar of the ancient world to make that observation about the Jews. The Jews became dominant by accumulating a substantial portion of the wealth of every country that they infiltrated. And they accumulated their wealth by collaborating with each other and preying on the host population. Their collaboration was based on their racial consciousness, on their conviction that they were a distinct and unique people, superior to the people among whom they lived and deserving of whatever they could take away from their hosts. The Jews in Rome did not think of themselves as Romans who happened to believe in Judaism, but as Jews who happened to live in Rome. And the same for every other country where they lived.

With the sort of attitude and behavior the Jews had they were bound to be hated by everyone--and they reciprocated. The Jews regarded the hatred they had for their hosts as justified, just as they considered deceiving and exploiting their hosts to be justified; but their hosts’ hatred of the Jews they regarded as “bigotry” and “persecution.” Their history is a chronicle of one “persecution” after another, right down to modern times. During the Middle Ages they were kicked en masse out of every country in Europe, repeatedly. They pretend today that this supposed “persecution” was the result of religious bigotry on the part of their hosts, but in fact it was simply self-defense on the part of their hosts, the same sort of reaction to their presence that the Egyptians and the Greeks and the Romans and everyone else in pre-Christian times had had. And it was this barrier of hatred between the Jews and the rest of the world which made it possible for them to maintain their identity and their sense of racial self-consciousness.

>>14542874
This. It was never supposed to be an ideal for women to aspire to, it was created by fabric not faggots and perverts. An elongated and slim frame makes clothing look stunning. My oneitis was a fashion model. 5'11 and 135. She ruined all other women for me. Everything she wore looked amazing on her. She could pull off ridiculous outfits that any normal sized girl would look retarded in. She's the reason I'm going to marry a tall slim girl or never at all. Short girls are only good for a sexual fetish.

>>14543603
>>14543615
>>14543618
>>14543704

take your meds

>>14542107
>communists will defend the free market
No?

>>14543731
This meme response is perfect. Take your meds. The meds prescribed by some jew shrink, made by some jew pharma corp to cure a "disease" made up by some jews who jammed into the DSM for political reasons.

>>14543461
Shout out to MPC where that quote was cribbed from... anyone been over there lately?

>>14543704
imagine marrying a woman because of fashion. you are a massive faggot. the other faggot was correct; take your meds.

>>14543556
The creation of Israel and the subversion of American politics for Israeli interests says otherwise.

>>14543416
I hate this "my truth" shit, it's another completely astroturfed verbal tic uttered almost exclusively by women

It contravenes the whole definition of truth - the whole point is that it's external, not yours, and you don't get your own personal version of it

These ads are made for woke white people. By depicting a fat black woman in an ad, Calvin Klein affirms solidarity with people who are both black and fat, and solidarity with blacks is the most important value to woke white people. This makes them more likely to have a positive view of Calvin Klein.You won't see an athletic black woman in these ads because that could be seen as "imposing" - don't you know blacks are more likely to be fat due to systemic racism? it's not very nice to depict athletic black women in an ad, really!

This is true of all woke media, it's for white consumption so they can feel like they're caring about blacks since their entire worldview is based around the black as a measure of moral progress.

>>14541462
You literally cannot order me to be tolerant. How do you not realize this?

>>14542141
Thank god what I believe in is carrying a razor-sharp locomotive plow around with me everywhere.

>>14543376
You're gonna die of heart disease LOL

>>14541397
Perhaps its idologically motivated, but its just expanded the category of beautiful. I think its great

>>14541397
This is why I'm not a capitalist.

>>14541397
We decided that merit is offensive and the culture geared itself around praising the mediocre or the worse than mediocre.

It takes no effort to be an obese negress. There is nothing aspirational in that image. It is not challenging and because it is not challenging it is unlikely to generate offense.

imagine people who looked human were actually masquerading and telepathically communicating. i would never know.

>>14544038
"Praising the mediocre" doesn't quite capture it. It's more that it's not very nice to uphold an ideal of thin-ness and shove it in the face of fat people if those fat people are also female or of color. Many "fat affirming" liberals are health nuts, it's just seen as the Nice thing to do to not impose an ideal on someone from those groups, as they're historically disadvantaged.

The undercurrent here is, in all seriousness:
>First you impose an ideal, before you know it, you're imposing Popery.

>>14541397
go back to >>>/pol/

there's nothing with being fat or black as long as you read, if you read you're already better than 90% of mankind

>>14544038
This is just way too fucking charitable anon; her obesity is hardly a neutral "inoffensive" value simply because it's devoid of aspirational content. It's viscerally repulsive and the purpose of elevating this stuff and saturating the culture with imagery of broken, unlovable and unhealthy people isn't just to foster tolerance but to make this somehow normative. The effect of wave after wave of this garbage washing over you from every billboard, TV screen and magazine page is to tamp down and dull your natural inclination toward disgust.

>>14541397
Pictures like these always make me feel like eating less, and working out more.

>>14541510
It is

>>14541397
I just hate the obsession with black supremacy and the requirement for blacks to be omnipresent across all media

Americans are incredibly fucked in the head

>>14541493
Honestly this, and they're probably better customers, at least in consumables and health care (looks like US).

>>14541561
Fetishes are just fetishes though. People into bbw and ssbbw usually don’t kid themselves about how unhealthy it is and aren’t really into pushing an agenda, they just wanna fuck hamplanets.
t. into fat chicks

>>14541468
Why should we tolerate people that won't tolerate others?

>>14542683
this one is the correct answer

>>14544333
It's not black supremacist, liberals believe blacks are so childlike and inferior that they need constant reinforcement, as the child's development is... concerning.

>>14541475
>create more jobs
Bullshit. Just means more poor chinese people across the pond assemble the shit in sweatshops. And then watch, if and when genetic modification becomes widespread, all of the obese people will scramble to look thin.

>>14541478
If you lose your humanity (a healthy body/,mind) you are not people therefore you can not get respect.

>>14544360
because thats how you make the difference.

There is a market for fat people

>>14541407
This is literal communism though

>>14541397
It's just business. Fatties have money.

>>14543079
Actually essentially they are

>>14541407
True.
>>14542107
Also true.

>>14542188
So you want real multiculturalism, which we do not have now?
If so you're but a reactionary.

>>14543565
Everything you ever touched is a result of PRIVATE ENTERPRISE and INDIVIDUAL INNOVATION. Your pea-picking heart should be filled with gratitude, and tears of joy should be running down your face every time you get to breathe car exhaust fumes.
Calling someone who appreciates THE BEST WAY OF LIFE IN HISTORY a "bootlicker" really shows how much of a sheltered faggot you are.

>>14544403
>Just means more poor chinese people across the pond assemble the shit in sweatshops.
Yes. Instead of shoveling shit on a rice farm for $1 a day, they'll be working in a sweatshop for $2-3 per day. This is how PRIVATE ENTERPRISE is beating abject poverty worldwide, and the sweatshop serfs are GREATFUL for it.
But I don't expect a sheltered Derek from a chinese porn cartoon webforum to realise it.

>if and when genetic modification becomes widespread, all of the obese people will scramble to look thin.
Imagine thinking innovation is bad, lmao.

>>14542251
No. It's more like everyone but fat and black women that is the market.

i miss when i saw horny bitches

>>14541488
And he would rightfully be considering exactly what he is: a shadow of a man. Furthermore, fat cunts have all the potential in the world unlike the elderly.

>>14541561
>666kb
Indeeeeed.

>>14543888
No such thing as being "woke" exists.

>>14542683
Its absolutely aimed at them as well as white liberals. Blacks are always willing to shell out money for brand name clothing. You're the midwit who doesn't know basic shit anyone with experience could tell you.

>>14542292

You assume these ads are effective. This is highly unlikely. A corporation can afford a lot of very stupid ads as long as they're not actively damaging the brand. This is a large organization managerial problem, there is no incentive to fight these because your career would get blown up.

>>14541463
kek nice one

>>14542412
>>14542578
Exactly. Promoting an obese womanx of colour in your ad appeal to the liberals.

fat fetish is based desu
imagine having a fat thigh crushing your skull
you all are just gays

>>14541407
All hard free markets types have long advised to have male dominated societies. I doubt there would be a high demand for fat women advertising in that case. Pierce Brosnan can only fund so many ad campaigns.

>>14544333
>Americans are incredibly fucked in the head
The negrolatry might have begun in the US but we have surpassed them. We almost have as high a proportion of them in our media in the UK when they are 3% of the population whereas they are 13% in the USA.

>>14541397
>>14547402
>>14546930
>>14546881
>>14544491
>>14544333
>>14544181
>>14543888
>>14541463
>>14547275
>>14547385
>>14543461
>>14542806
It IS a marketing tactic, but not an immediately obvious one. The point is a quick distribution of the Calvin Klein brand. But, the billboard is just an entry point. They want people to distribute calvin klein's brand for free, to get the brand "viral" - further shown by the hashtag.

Yes, it appeals to the woke liberal and the black amerilard, but also to the outraged conservative, too. the CK marketing team is aware of both the disgust people have towards niggers and fatties AND the woke social justice posturing that goes on in the media.

Thanks for advertising for CK, OP

>>14541407
>>14541484
I think that it is interesting how, once capitalism started promoting ugliness and vices, suddenly many leftists became market fundamentalists who believe markets can do no wrong and that criticizing any market outcome is morally wrong.
If markets promoted beauty and a moral life, I imagine that their reaction would be the opposite. They would complain about how capitalism reinforces beauty standards. They would complain about how capitalism stiffles people's choices.

In the end, the modern left is not pro-equality. It is pro-vice.

>>14543755
We've all read Lot49 already

>>14543966
Who's stopping me? ;)

>>14544760
you are, maybe

>>14542898
Men are not as fragile or wedded to illusions as women. They understand there is a brutal hierarchy to the quality of bodies, ranging from athleticism to penis size. Having their body type "catered to" in advertisement is not as appealing.

Men have no illusions about what kind of body is superior. They don't need to be fed these misperceptions. An out of shape, weak man is trained to feel ashamed of himself, and is ashamed of himself, and being told that it's okay by media signals does not make this go away.

Fitness for men is more impactful than fitness for women simply because how much more men benefit from it. Seeing a fat ugly guy showing off underwear would then make a guy LESS likely to buy the clothes.

>>14547669
>Men are not as fragile or wedded to illusions as women
lol

>>14547562
Anons talking about cultural Marxism and blaming liberals when it's just this
Basic corporate manipulation

>>14543731
this tactic doesn't work on a website where 75% of the users agree with the person you're calling crazy and another 24% are at least willing to listen to him

go be a faggot somewhere else

>>14544333
somedy post the Carl Jung copypasta

>>14541424
>corporations trying to rip off as much money as they can by co-opting what's currently popular is some kind of Red Menace conspiracy

>>14547669
This is actually fucking based

>>14547669
Insightful, thanks

>>14547774
> he thinks obese nigger ogres are popular
Are you certified insane or just some sort of lvl 88 troll?

>>14541468
Because they are peak con-soomers

>>14543079
They literally are

>>14542854
how does she look so white?

>>14547712
polfags don't count

>>14548848
>>14547662

>>14541397
>unironically prefer the fat negress
What has porn done to me

>>14542101
>cultural marxism
Big brain over here.

>>14549670
wow it's like you haven't even watched 50 hours of peterson videos

>>14542107
You must be conflating communism with liberalism yet again, *sniff*

>>14549220
Yes. If people are furnaces and I am, presumably, a person it would in fact follow that I am a furnace.

>>14546286
based retard

>>14542597
Immigration goes from poor to rich. Cheaper wages for the means of production.
If things continue this way and Capitalism doesn't fall, there will be a lot less whites, but rich Asia will begin to be replaced by poor Asia, like what is happening in Japan with south east asia immigration. A japanese isn't exactly an indonesian, or vietnamian.

>>14541397
yes. some call it identity politics. others wokeism. others post-modern neomarxism whatever.

>>14541397
>Klein was born on November 19, 1942 to a Jewish family in The Bronx, the son of Flore (née Stern) (1909-2006) and Leo Klein.

>>14541463
I sincerely doubt that pictures of unnattractive people encourage any demographic to buy more.

>>14541397
You're complaining about it to a bunch of people on the internet and got hundreds of replies plus however many lurkers viewing it.
It was what Gillett did and they got literally hundreds of millions of views from thousands of videos just on YouTube.
Advertising agencies have all learned over the years from sensational news media and the whole Trump election debacle and finally figured out that rage propagation is literally the most cost effective way for companies to spread their brand, products and ads because of the internet and retards that use it.
You've all fallen for their marketing tactic.

>>14541510
This is how biology worked for the past several eons and nothing has established a recent change to counter this principle.

>>14547645
>suddenly many leftists became market fundamentalists who believe markets can do no wrong and that criticizing any market outcome is morally wrong

It's more of a case of "you've made your bed, now lie in it".

Conservatives have been shilling "muh markets" and "muh competition" since forever. They don't get to now turn around and bitch about the monster they've created just because they don't like the outcome of market competition.

Take responsibility for your retarded views.

>>14541510
Yeah, it is. Start actually counting calories and then remove sugar and processed foods from your diet. You'd be surprised.

Is it possible to normalize that which is repulsive?
Will we ever look at billboards like this and not experience something that resembles horror?

>>14541522
>an healthy and beautiful female body, the one that males actually consider attractive, will never make it to the runway.
you be saying?

>>14541463

N predicted this

>>14552898
>Company trying to sell xxxxxxl dresses tells them to stay fat
wow much surprise

I don't think it's ever going to seem normal

>>14541522
>So an healthy and beautiful female body, the one that males actually consider attractive, will never make it to the runway.
I think those ads of all the unhealthy skinny models really did shape what men think of as attractive, and what women think of as normal for the worse. Thank god hip hop came round and every girls trying to get thick now lol

>>14541397

interesting to see how the creator of this image, in pointing out that capitalism will coopt anything, even a social movement like fat acceptance to try and sell you shit, doesn't hold the same scrutiny on the top pic - that same capitalism is coopting an arbitrary beauty standard to try and sell you shit

>>14543461

lmfao that pic too real

>>14541397
Capitalism is one of the most honest aspects of humanity.
Wherever you see capitalism doing something you can be sure that money is its only objective.
Simple, translucent force of nature.

>>14541407
kek
>>14552277
This should have been the first reply. We're clearly infested with retards and shills

>>14553487
Can money buy you sex slaves legally and escape the law after displaying them publicly? Or allow the rich to murder 100 children on live television for their own amusement? If no, then capitalism still has room to improve until the point where money becomes meaningless while suffering and humiliation become the new currency.

>>14541397
Stay safe out there, Anons.

>>14543388
https://mobile.twitter.com/virescence/status/630608971187945472

>>14552836
Im glad you agree!

>>14541397
Natural ,pRoGReSs' of materialistic ,,thinking''.

>>14553775
Based. Will pray today for this becoming our reality sooner rather than later.

>>14553897
Based and crazy old YHWH pilled

>>14546286
Damn son shut the fuck up and get back to work.

>>14541397
Does anyone actually think the good side won ww2?

>>14554126
There were no good sides, just retarded political ideologies

>>14541397
Jesus Christ her thighs must have their own gravitational pull.

>>14541463
sixth post best post

>>14554158
Wrong. One side fought for its volk. The other side fought for multiple different retarded political ideologies.

>>14554175
You do realise that picture is just sprouting yet another ideology which has no basis on anything. It's tribalistic retarded shit. Politics are for tribalistic low iq primates, the kind you find on /Pol/ and lefty /Pol/

>>14542711
It's not just this board. Everything except for the slowest and most obscure boards that focus on certain topics or hobbies went down the shitter.

>>14554193
- quote by the man stabbed by a tribalistic low IQ primate 10 years from now
Calling politics retarded shit doesn't change the fact those primates will inevitably force you to act a certain way.
Or perhaps you have some psionic inner universe techniques to share?

>>14554347
>you LITERALLY have to obey peer pressure guys
faggot faggot faggot

>>14554126
yes because it's true

>>14541510
>Bodies don't adhere to thermodynamics
Pulling the HURR DURR I'M RETARDED cope I see

>>14542711
pick a side or get the fuck out, there's no point in bitching about where the conflict happens if you won't do your part to end it

>>14554963
who are you quoting?

>>14554968
>hurr durr subscribe to my tribalistic nonsense!

shoo shoo :)

>>14554175
>One side fought for its volk.
By starting a war they would lose for sure

This is pure Burgerpunk.

>Surely unfettered capital left to appeal to the widest, lowest-common-denominator base it can reach devoid of any accountability, loyalty, or values will produce a healthy society
>Rootless materialist mutt degeneracy? No! Who could have ever predicted this???

>>14554978
>he doesn't think leftism is its own tribe
there is no escape from tribalism, even universalism just forms yet another tribe

>>14554369
Yeah I'm just gonna violently vibrate through walls when the taxman comes to collect the bachelor tax. Laws are just peer pressure.

>>14552898
I hope they die of swine flu.

>>14541561
Next on TLC