/lit/ - Literature

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>>14531343
Great but you should have started with the Egyptians and Mesopotamians.

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4/4

Epictetus?

>>14531343
lovely collection. Now read them since I see almost all of their spines are still intact. Pseud.

>>14531383
Oh I haven’t got him (unless he’s part of a collection) anyone else I’m missing?

>>14531343
I think you might be lacking some Aristophanes.

>>14531397

Aristophanes is a huge fucking oversight

>>14531343
Okay, this guy unironically fucks. Blackpill me on Pindar.

>>14531395
Some people aren't wild animals and treat books with care.

>>14531343
If you didn't read 'em in the original, you didn't read 'em.

>>14531395
I’ve read 1/3. Currently on Herodotus which is taking a while.

>>14531407
Ah I meant to buy him. I think I forgot. Thank you.

>>14531415
Life's too short but strong enough symbols manage to find their way into another tongue.

>>14531416
Keep trucking Anon. Read and reread them until you have to buy hardcovers to replace them. Cheers.

>>14531408
Pindar is based. It’s his idea for victors of the 4 athletic games across Greece. Wealthy victors would pay him to write these victory idea which were then performed as part of the celebration. Obviously he uses the idea to moralise, give advice and link the victors to the gods.

>>14531405
This.

fuck off nigger

>>14531369
I got Volume One for Christmas. Anything you recommend reading before starting. Was going to do Plato's dialogues and go from there.

>>14531442
I’m not a nigger.

>>14531450
Id recommend Plato as essential as Aristotle was his student. Also pre socratics and then probably the history works (Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon) for a bit of background context.

>>14531343
You're missing a lot of philosophy.

>>14531474
Like what? I have all pre-socratics, Diogenes, complete world of Aristotle and Plato. I’m interested in works p until about Alexander the Great. What am I missing?

>>14531357
No, that’s what reactionaries do. You get into that shit after if you have a particular intrest.

Read the metamorphoses by Ovid. It’s basically Greek canon at this point

>>14531343
You're missing Aristophanes and Diodorus Siculus at least.

>>14531480
Only up to Alexander the Great? Then you've got most of the extant works. What you are missing are works published after 300BC -- Epicurus, Sextus Empiricus, the stoics, etc.

>>14531610
Have you got a more complete list? I don’t mind going up to Hellenistic Greece but no further than roman Greece unless it’s very important.

>>14531632
Aesop and Petrarch are already part of Hellenistic Greece

>>14531663
Aesop was said to have been 7th century, although he’s largely a myth.

Plutarch’s moralia, (I prefer it over the lives) On the sublime by anonymous author, the platonic dialogues that are pseudepigrapha, (idk if those are Greek but they probably are) complete works of apsines, I don’t see numenius, I’m sure there are many more

>>14531738
As I said I’m looking for works only up to the Roman occupation of Greece. Apsines is 3rd cent. AD. Thanks though

>>14531763
Then you're still missing Aristophanes and Diodorus Siculus.

>>14531770
Anything else?

Posting rare OWC

>doesnt have chapmans homer
might as well hold a book burning

>>14531343
Rate the following tragedians in your preferential order: Aeschylus, Euripides, Sophocles.

>>14531825
What can you tell me about Eratosthenes? This seems a pretty cool book. Thinking of getting it.

>>14531802
I noticed you're missing the new and acclaimed Emily Wilson translation of the Odyssey

>>14532431
>What can you tell me about Eratosthenes?

Eratosthenes was an extraordinary polymath who was mocked and misunderstood in his own day.

>>14532472
lol

>>14531343
you should learn ancient greek and go to a real library.

How youalls but sex game? Cant be a true classicist if you aren't stretching out little boys pink rings.

>>14531343
Bro what r u doin?
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/collection.php?cpk=1031
besides all untranslated/unpublished works

no presocratics no euclid yikes.

You're missing many many many many many fragments

>>14533370
This. I only see Anabasis for Xenophon so he's missing at least Cyropaedia and The Art of Horsemanship off the top of my head. I figure the smaller stuff like his conversations during The Trial of Socrates are in there somewhere - but maybe not. It is a good stack but it is far from complete.

>>14531663
>Petrarch
Anon I....

>>14533421
>The Art of Horsemanshi
is that really necessary?

>>14531663
Petrarca? The renaissance poet?

>>14533446
If you want to understand the man that led 10,000 men home then the answer is "yes".

>>14533452
Meant Plutarch, sorry.

In what order should Plato be read? What is most essential? And supposing that a person womt be able to work through all of Plato at once, which should be most immediately read?

>>14531407
>a huge fucking oversight
He's the Louis CK of the Greeks. People only turn to comedy in times of decline when the citizenry is possessed with a sense of ironic detachment. Comedy is the lowest form of entertainment known to man.

>>14533538
>He's the Louis CK of the Greeks
Why do burgers insist on understanding literature through anachronistic false equivalents?

>>14533553
You're coping, Aristophanes is degenerate. He's the reason Socrates was executed.

>>14533553
They are slaves to the propaganda organ. Please, forgive them. You can likely not understand how heavy a load of propaganda we have to endure here.

And...how much of it have you read?

>>14533581
he said a third of it

>>14533366
Blind

>>14533421
I have two Xenophon

If you have to ask then you don’t

>>14531802
Plotinus

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>>14531369
Are the Pythagoreans in there somewhere? I sperg out when they aren't given the credit they're due.

>>14533639
Regardless, it's still incomplete:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophon

>>14533701
Most of it is fodder

>>14533694
Yeah in the pre socratics book

>>14533370
Are there books with these as a collection?

>>14533446
OP said he had ALL Greek texts.

>>14531343
i want to be impressed, but these are all in english

>>14531825
>rare
>listed on amazon
Thanks for the rec though, just bought a copy.

>no Orphic poetry
Never gonna make it

I believe this is different from your Greek Idyllic Poetry.
But sections of it is likely in your other books.

>>14533810
/thread

>>14533810
Who’s work is this?

>>14533874
Many have he spoken through.

>>14532531
Literally /OurGuy/.

>>14531825
Psssh, nothing personal kid, but you call that rare?

>>14533783
I can't imagine just collecting all the Greek works in fucking Greek lmao dude be conscious, these days it's already notable that he's reading the Greeks at all

>>14534974
I’m moving on to the Romans after I’m done with the Greeks. After that Christian and early English works.

>>14531450
Aristotle's toughest works are in volume 1 of that series. It's all his dry works on logic and physics, which are going to be really difficult to parse through, especially if you're unfamiliar with Aristotle's terse style. You are honestly better off finishing Plato first, then getting Aristotle vol 2 (ethics, politics, etc., much easier topics to grasp). If you try vol 1 first you will burn out very hard, unless you are supremely autistic.

>>14535569
That feel when the line between psued autism and genuine intelligence is blurred

>>14531369
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>>14531343
All of those books appear to be in English.

So, (I’m OP) as far as I can tell I’m missing only Diodorus and Aristophanes

>>14533845
Should i get this or the translation by Athanassakis?

>>14535441
Based. I have some Roman works and I'm currently reading the book in the picture by Martial. It reads like a roast session lol just throwing shit at everyone he knew, calling them faggots, old, whore-frequenters, idiots and all sorts of things. Even some self-deprecating comedy in there. Good shit.

>>14531395
That Sophocles looks really destroyed.

>>14531395
>I'm a filthy pig, therefore, all people are the same

>>14531825
That’s a very sexy cover

>>14536173
The Martial and Catullus have the original Latin in it, and if you can read it - it just shows you how awesome those two poets really were. Good stuff, they are the patrician versions of Catullus and Martial.

Following from this, from initial research I know of at least 50 roman writers extant. This makes reading everything an arduous task. What would be the top 20 writers to focus on?

>>14536173
Good assortment. Also recommend Seneca the Yonger and Suetonius Tranquillus.

>>14536859
Anyone?

what happens after you read them all?

>>14537171
>>14536859
Here's 15.

>>14537192
you realize the indians were superior

>>14537206
half way through the greeks, i started to read the indians, and I shortly understood that in less than half the time

>>14531343
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>>14531369
>translations
lmao

>>14531343
Sappho?

>>14537232
>translations bad

>>14537240
She’s in the Greek lyric poets book

>no derveni
Mega pseud

>>14537192
I gain an in depth knowledge of the Greeks and their thought. I then move on to the Romans. Then Christianity, then early English/ Norse. Then medieval, then renaissance, enlightenment etc

>>14537171
Tacitus
some Livy
Ausonius
Vergil
Horace
Lucretius
some Cicero
some Caesar
I like Gellius (Attic Nights)
I like Quintilian
That's ten-

>>14537278
Cheers

Nice book collection. How often do you masturbate over it?

>>14537265
>not reading The Koran nor Arabian Nights

>>14537336
I don’t care about Paki shit. I’m interested in western thought.

>>14537487
>western thought.
why specifically?

>>14537499
I’m from the west. Western thought built our civilisation and directly effects me. I’m interesting in writing my own book one day so this serves a dual purpose of research.

>>14537523
since you're interested in the fundament of your civilization and culture, you should read the mesopotamians

>>14537550
What lit do they have? I know very little about them

>>14531343
I am not seeing any of it.

Isn't Ancient Greek literature written in Ancient Greek?

Buy bilingual editions, anon.

>>14537487
Arabian Nights is Western canon, though.

>>14537554
http://www.gatewaystobabylon.com/introduction/literature.htm

>>14537558
He's a pretentious monolingual racist who buys paperbacks from le Oxford. Your hopes are too high.

>>14537568
Thanks m8

>>14537558
What’s the point? I don’t speak Ancient Greek. Oxford scholars can provide an excellent translation that I’m happy to use.