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14515171 No.14515171 [Reply] [Original]

Why is right wing literature so pathetic?

>> No.14515191

>>14515171
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.14515269

>>14515171
Most lefties I know irl would fucking hate IJ because of how hard they suck the tv demon's cock.

>> No.14515282

>>14515171
Is infinite jest actually sincere?

I wanna know before I read.

>> No.14515481

>>14515282
Ultimately yes, but it still utilizes irony

>> No.14515499
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>>14515171
>shitting on Siege

>> No.14515538

the meme that communists are more ” artistic” than liberals, reactionaries, and non political people needs to die.

hipster bohemian faggots have rarely produced anything of value.

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14515545

Fixed it for you

>> No.14515549

>>14515545
Kek.

>> No.14515600

>>14515499
It’s poorly written and retarded

>> No.14515620

Isn't "right-wing literature" basically anything written before the 19th century?

>> No.14515632 [DELETED] 

>>14515545
harry potter is right wing. its literally a 7 book long anti-tranny treatise.

>> No.14515647

"Right wing literature"
> Doesn't mention Kipling
> Doesn't mention Van Vogt
> Doesn't mention Heinlein
> Doesn't mention Tom Clancy

Wat lol?

>> No.14515763

>>14515620
based

>> No.14515809

>>14515538
It's statistically the case. Many great artists were communists, and communism was always popular in sophisticated circles

>> No.14515810

>>14515269
lefties or libs?

>> No.14515866
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>tolerates women so that he can continue his peoples existence
>refuses sweet boipussi for the greatness of his country
>commits ritualistic suicide out of love of his ancestors' culture

How can you forget this GOD of right wing /lit/?

>> No.14515874

>>14515809
Most of those artists were champagne socialists though.

>> No.14515961

>>14515810
keep telling yourself this distinction is meaningful

>> No.14515992

>>14515171
George Orwell and David Foster Wallace weren’t commies anon.

>> No.14516011

>>14515620
Anything written before the 60s

>> No.14516015

>>14515545
what makes hunger political

>> No.14516042

>>14515647
Heinlein is a bad writer
good thing Verhoeven BTFO'd him

>> No.14516047

>>14515809
Stalin knew how to deal with people from "sophisticated circles"

>> No.14516105

>>14516015
It isn't political, but it's author was a right-winger

>> No.14516132

>>14515171
Journey to the End of the Night,
Atlas Shrugged,
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress,
Industrial Society and It's Future,
Pretty much anything by Kafka.

And many more.

Cope harder

>> No.14516136

this is what chapocels tell themselves when their mod pins a thread with xirs furry art for self promotion

>> No.14516161

>>14515809
Every single communist "artist" (with eh sole exceptions of Mann, Tolstoy, and Kafka) are nothing more than aesthetic technician expressing nothing or peddlers of pure kitsch.

>> No.14516178

>>14515809
Ummmm muh sophisticated circles! Hope this is a joke. Neck yourself faggot

>> No.14516181

no art is political no matter the authors beliefs

>> No.14516183

>>14515961
it is

>> No.14516197

Doesn't IJ have an entire chapter poking fun at the way black people speak? I'm not sure if Wallace had coherent enough politics to be considered either left or right.

>> No.14516215

>>14516183
in the world of theory it is real. How about when it comes to affecting change in the world?

>> No.14516318

>>14515171
Siege is actually a psychadelic crazy ride.

Homage to Catalonia is a story about a guy getting shot in the neck while trying to help some thieves steal a country.

>> No.14516333

>>14516215
It also is. There's a clear difference between a liberal/progressive capitalist than a true leftist who believes in communism/socialism.

>> No.14516341

>>14515499
cringe

>> No.14516343

>>14516042
No he wasn't. He was a genius.
Verhoeven also accidentally made the most attractive fascist propaganda piece ever made, when Heinlein was actually writing about a hyper liberal society, not fascism.

Paul Verhoeven falls into that usual category of dumb Leftist who never actually read anything about Fascism that wasn't scooped onto a plate for him by a Jew. He doesn't know what Fascism is so he just makes a movie about handsome white people killing evil bug monsters and screams "LOOK AT HOW EVIL THOSE WHITE PEOPLE ARE, AHHHH THEY HAVE WHITE TEETH AND THEY'RE KILLING INSECTS, THEY'RE NAZIS!"

Like if you think about this for five seconds you realize that the Nazis were just killing leftists and thus were totally justified--but that wasn't what Heinlein wrote about at all. Heinlein wrote about how the problem was that the bugs and humans couldn't communicate, and THAT was their primary contention.

>> No.14516354

>>14516333
Not really. Both are just anti-white retards fooled by Jews, or Jews.

>> No.14516512

>>14516042
Heinlein is great. Read Tunnel in the Sky or Methuselah's Children. He's one of the grandmasters of Science Fiction.

>> No.14516565

>>14516042
Ironically Verhoeven showed just how ridiculous anti-war activists are. The bugs are literally killing and eating humans as well as destroying cities with weapons of mass destruction and yet the movie seems to think we should sympathize with the bugs. He might as well be saying we should be sympathetic to Nazis and African Warlords.

>> No.14516593

>>14515866
>Depraved homo meme's self to death.
Because he was an airheaded retard?

>> No.14516626
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>cherry picked
>picks George "fuck my ass up" Orwell as a "good writer"
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHA

>> No.14516665

>>14515992
just because they dont share the stereotypical traits of a commie doesnt mean they are. Orwell was a socialist. James Joyce frequently went to socialist meetings. Ernst Junger befriended a socialist during the war

>> No.14516667

>>14516343
Verhoeven actually lived under a facsist government
>>14516565
>implying the bugs did Buenos Aires

>> No.14516690

>Trying to use art as vague points for your retarded imaginary identitarian team

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>>14516667
There's absolutely nothing to imply that the bugs didn't do Buenos Aries and they obviously have no problem with slaughtering humans. They are about as sympathetic as Xenomorphs.

>> No.14516704

>>14516694
>There's absolutely nothing to imply that the bugs didn't do Buenos Aries
Based retard. Watch the film again. Never read the book, might be different there. I read Stranger In A Strange Land and it was so clumsy and awful I've never bother further with Heinlein

>> No.14516741

>>14516704
Stranger in a Strange Land won the 1962 Hugo Award for Best Novel and became the first science fiction novel to enter The New York Times Book Review's best-seller list. In 2012, it was included in a Library of Congress exhibition of "Books That Shaped America".

If you didn't like it you probably weren't smart enough to understand it.

>> No.14516779

>>14515545
>compares the cantos to harry potter
What a dickhead

>> No.14516797

>>14516741
It's still shit m8. Banal prose and trite ideas recycled from Rousseau.
Glad to hear you think being on the NYT bestseller list and winning a Hugo award mean something.

>> No.14516826

>>14516354
You are retarded

>> No.14516836

>>14516797
Hundreds of thousands of people say a book is great, but I hate it because the prose is too confusing...they must be retards!

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>>14516797
I'd like to point out you agreed with Verhoeven's assessment that Heinlein was a fascist despite the fact that, by your own admission, you haven't read a single book Heinlein has written.

>> No.14516889

>>14516836
Banal doesn't mean confusing

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>>14516889
By your own admission you didn't finish the book, ostensibly because it wasn't "original" but it's pretty clear it was too confusing for you. Maybe you should start with one of his juveniles and work your way up to his full-length novels.

>> No.14516954

>>14516884
>you haven't read a single book Heinlein has written.
I've read Stranger in A Strange Land as I state in the very post you are replying to my perhaps drunk post-deleting friend. I don't really know if Heinlein is a fascist, I'm talking about the movie

>> No.14516988

>>14516954
Sorry, I messaged the wrong anon. If you didn't like Stranger in a Strange land at least try Tunnel in the Sky. It's a lot of fun and is less preachy.

>> No.14517130

>>14515171
A part of me hope china takes over so we can stop pretending that right and left are useful terms for describing political ideologies.

>> No.14517459

>>14515191
nice try

>> No.14517471

>>14515269
In my experience both gargle the coom of the television goblin.

>> No.14517495

>>14516197
I don't think he was making fun

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>>14515171
The left and right are fake ideologies engaged in a fake battle against each other to distract people from the real war which is and has always been the very wealthy against the people.
It doesn't really matter which politicians ends up leading your country because they will take roughly the same decisions, all their promises are lies.

>> No.14517776

>>14515171
Infinite Jest is not left wing literature. DFW was actually a right-leaning Christian and these views are expressed in the detachment and neglect his characters experience in infinite Jest. The entire book is a testament to how the notion of "privelege" does not exist, because equilibrium makes equal all man in all walks, regardless of wealth and the motivation of their parents.

Also, you chose bad books for the right wing category. The Camp of the Saints and beautiful literature, and so is everything by Gene Wolfe (The Book of the New Sun), each of which reflect Christian values and male dominance as the only realistic portrayal of worlds, even in fantastic worlds tethered to our own.

Also, everything by Ray Bradbury, who was a more acclaimed author even than DFW. This thread is all garbage. Nice try. Sage

>> No.14517786

>>14515620
This.

>> No.14518134

>>14517776
/thread

>> No.14518157

>>14515545
based

>> No.14518164

>>14516333
>true leftist who believes in communism/socialism.
they get called nazbol, red fash, cops, etc. by the majority of leftists for what they believe in, they're also a tiny minority.

>> No.14518170

>>14517776
>right wing = christian

cringe

>> No.14518181

>>14515545
rowling is lib at best, this is as deluded as calling clinton left wing

>> No.14518340

>>14516667
>Verhoeven actually lived under a facsist government

No he did not. Paul Verhoeven was an infant in Holland during WWII. The Netherlands was never fascist and he did not have any cognitive experience of it at all.

What he did live under was Europe during Denazification, also known as "Liberal Capitalism and Communism systematically deracinating and annihilating every European culture to make them easier to propagandize," and he definitely shows for that.

His cultureless, low-IQ take on American crime in Robocop, combined with his incredibly pathetic and counterproductive take on Fascism in Starship Troopers contrasts well with his much more honest, much more realistic, and, ultimately, much more true to his heart work Flesh+Blood, in which he depicts a rapist as a sympathetic character because, ultimately, his left-leaning politics are born of a nostalgia for the numerous rapes he no doubt witnessed committed by Allied troops against his own people, and his own pathological need to justify them because the alternative to opposing the rape of "every girl from 8 to 80" after the war was Nazism.

>> No.14518350

>>14517776
>the Camp of the Saints and beautiful literature,
there was a time when this kind of bait would be considered on the nose on the in the hallowed halls of /lit/

>> No.14518352

>>14515171
Infinite Jest is peak centrist literature

>> No.14518370

>>14515171
For anyone who has read infinite jest, would you recommend it and why/ why not?

>> No.14518378

>>14515171
Communism is right-wing

/thread

>> No.14518405

>>14515545
Ficciones right? How?

>> No.14518452

>>14518405
Borges was a conservative and supported Pinochet

>> No.14518456
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14518456

Not all of it. Pic rel was pure kino.

>> No.14518461

>>14515545
being anti-Semitic doesn't make you right-wing, it's a universal position

>> No.14518488

>>14518452
Interesting

>> No.14518502
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>>14518456
I quote from page 283 of the book "Look Who's Back":

"No. The truth could only be understood by a man who knows the Jews, the man who knows that with them there is no left and no right, and that both sides work hand in hand in perpetuity. And only the perspicacious spirit who sees through all the disguises could recognize that in their aim to eliminate the Aryan race, nothing had changed. The final struggle for the earth's scarce resources would come - far later than I had prophesied-but it would come nonetheless. And the aim was so clear that only a fool could deny it: the Jewish hordes were planning once more to flood the Reich with their repulsive masses. But they had learned from the last war. Because they realized their inferiority, they resolved to undermine, reduce and annihilate the valor of our Volk. So that when the day came, the Asiatic millions would be met only be effeminate Hartz-men, helplessly waving their mouse devices and television control boxes."

Pretty based.

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People should read the book "Look Who's Back." It was much better and much more redpilled than the movie.

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>>14515866
Why did he cut off his nipples?

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14518549

>the right cant rea-

>> No.14518554
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14518554

Try "As I Walk These Broken Roads" By Davis MJ Aurini.

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14518562

Those of us looking for good right-wing lit need look no further than "The Brigade" by Harold Covington.

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Victoria by Thomas Hobbes is a Kino choice.

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>>14518549
Jordan Peterson? Nothing he has ever written can be accurately described as right-wing literature.

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>>14515171
Actually considering reading Siege, not because of politics but because I saw some radio interview with Mason in the 80's or early 90's and he seems like a somewhat funny (although crazy) guy.

>> No.14518607

>>14518452
But his work wasn't political, (explicitly), afaik

>> No.14518608

>>14518596
He's against trans rights

>> No.14518612

>>14518164
no one credible is calling zizek or jameson these names

>> No.14518619

>>14518608
Insufficient. Stalin and Mao would have opposed trans-rights.

>> No.14518624

>>14518612
>zizek is left-wing

t. dummy libtard

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14518631

The sci-fi short story compilation, Forbidden Thoughts, was a good right-wing short story compilation. Although some of the stories were weak, the entry entitled "Amazon Gambit" was worth the price of the book alone!

>> No.14518640

>>14515171
Posting Ben Shapiro's book is strawmanning things. We are discussing right-wing literature. Not neo-con nonsense.

>> No.14518690

Ah there it is, the regularly scheduled “The right has no literature” post that deliberately ignores Kurt Eggers, Leon Degrelle, Ernst Jünger, Wyndham Lewis, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, WB Yeats, Fernando Pessoa, HP Lovecraft, Louis-Ferdinand Céline, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Yukio Mishima, George Orwell, Ayn Rand, Jean Raspail, JRR Tolkien, arguably Michel Houllebecq, and dozens if not hundreds or thousands more and not including any of the actual right wing political theorists and philosophers.

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Since some Anons were discussing movies ITT, I would be remiss had I not mentioned Greg Johnson's book, "White Nationalist Guide to the Movies."

>> No.14518701

>>14515481
comical irony =/= irreverent irony

>> No.14518709
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A Throne of Bones was an excellent fantasy novel. It's sequel was also worthwhile.

>> No.14518712

>>14515171
>orwell
>not right wing

>> No.14518718

>>14517573
bull fucking shit. the real war is sinners vs saints and "aspiring" saints a.k.a catholics

>> No.14518721

>>14515171
Uhm sweetie, what about Hyperion Cantos? Dan Simmons is notoriously right wing.

>> No.14518725

>>14518513
will check it out. i saw the movie a while back.

>> No.14518730

>>14518725
Trust me when I say it's better than the movie. You hear that said all the time, but in this case it's true.

>> No.14518753

>>14515545
Hamsun wasn't actually right wing other than as a senile and scared old man. The first few chapters of Hunger were first published in a Danish anarchist magazine and he held strong anarchist sympathies up until the late 1920s, when he was in his 60s. He also wasn't really a proper nazi, he just hated anglos (on account of their moralism and imperialist disposition) and had a tendency for romanticising rural, agrarian culture in his aged years, likely due to nostalgia.

>> No.14518780

>>14518753
anarchism is right-wing

>> No.14518794

>>14518730
The book doesn't go for cheap laughs and doesn't make Hitler as much of a buffoon as the movie. It was high-brow satire (although parts seemed incredibly redpilled).

>> No.14518798

>>14518753
Right wing means antiathoritarianism not le puritanical and evangelical values or racist ones no matter how much liberal propaganda espouses otherwise.

>> No.14518808

>>14518780
it's certainly not rightwing but since it leads you to dislike basically all left wing movements and institutions along with right wing ones the confusion is understandable

>> No.14518815

>>14518798
>>14518780
The image implies was fascistoid, which is a common myth stemming from him supporting the nazis at the end of his life.

>> No.14518817

>>14518780
maybe if you're 16 or something it might seem like it is

>> No.14518831

>>14518817
sorry sweetie, it's the other way around.

>> No.14518889
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Shusaku Endo's Silence

>> No.14518893

>>14518817
Imagine not knowing the linear political spectrum of left being more governmental control and right being less and falling for propaganda. If you would like to add more axis you can but the linear spectrum is as stated.

>> No.14518898

Most literature is right wing. The left only has Orwell and Steinbeck

>> No.14518904

>>14518893
yep. i remember when i was 16.

>> No.14518911

>>14516132
>Industrial Society and It's Future
Is hating collectivism really right-wing? Right-wingers might not be globalists, but they're certainly nationalists. Fascism in general is essentially collectivism plus some window dressing and economic reform.

Looking at something like The Castle and The Trial as right wing literature, especially as written by a Jew in central Europe after WWI is kind of a hot take, but I can't actually say it's inaccurate.

>> No.14518924

>>14516132
not sure how ISAIF is right wing. Sure, it's explicitly not left wing but that doesn't make it right wing literature.

>> No.14518936

>>14516132
How is Kafka right wing?

>> No.14518937

>>14518911
True right wing is understanding that human progress is futile (since Man has fallen), conservative traditionalism which kaczynski somewhat promotes must therefore be right-wing.

>> No.14518946

>>14518936
The antagonists in his book were basically authoritarian commies

>> No.14518951

>>14518753
Why do you people consistently do this? This is the same tired shit we hear about Martin Heidegger. You take people who are clearly right wing and insist they’re not actually “X” political affiliation because they didn’t agree with every single aspect of “X” political affiliation. Since when do you have to be 100% in line with Nazi ideology to be a right winger? You all want so desperately to just think anything associated with something like Nazism is 100% incorrect that you’ll do mental gymnastics when you find people you want to take seriously and just present the case that the person in question wasn’t even associated with it when they clearly were.

Knut Hamsun turned Blut und Boden into a Nordic literary aesthetic. He was a germanophile who admired German volkisch culture sympathized with the Nazi emphasis on mythology and believed they had the right idea with a return to agrarianism. He openly supported the Germans in WW1, openly supported Nazism in the 30s, and he personally met with both Hitler and Goebbels, whom he awarded a literary medal. After Hitler’s suicide, he wrote an obituary for him calling him a “warrior of mankind”, a “prophet”, and a “reformer”. He never backpedaled on any of it until the day he died. He may have been an anarchist before it all and he may have been a senile old man way after it, but he was very lucid for that whole span of time and was decidedly a right winger sympathetic with the Nazis.

>> No.14518978

What the fuck does left/right even mean. If liberals are left wing does that make the soviet union right wing because of how traditional they were? There never seems to be a proper definition

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>>14515171
implying a right wing has even existed since 1945

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>>14518946
>The antagonists in his book were basically authoritarian commies
>thinks because characters act a certain way that the whole book is a political theme.
Is everyone in here a retarded, edgy teenager?

>> No.14519039

>>14518978
they're retarded dualistic meme definitions that haven't made sense since the french revolution

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>>14518978
>What the fuck does left/right even mean. If liberals are left wing does that make the soviet union right wing because of how traditional they were? There never seems to be a proper definition
I think the 2 sides have been skewed so badly as of late that most people dont even know anymore. Everyone just spews psuedo-political shit they've been spoonfed. Its painful to see really.

>> No.14519050

>>14518904
And still not knowing how the linear political spectrum works? Have you learned anything since then?

>> No.14519065

How is ij leftist?

>> No.14519074

>>14519065
Neither of the left is left wing. OP is mentally retarded.

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>>14515620

>> No.14519224

>>14518181
No TRUE left winger

>> No.14519231

>>14518502
>Pretty based.
Yes, the Jews are

>> No.14519244

>>14518612
>no one credible
Adding this just protects you from ever being proven wrong because you can just say anyone who demonstrably says these things about someone similar (if not literally about zizek or jameson) isn't "credible".

>> No.14519253

>>14519049
They only meant anything for the time immediately following their coinage.

>> No.14519262

>>14518181
>Clinton isn't left wing
are you retarded?

>> No.14519290

>>14518502
DAMN. i'm definitely gonna read this now

>> No.14519302

>>14519290
You should. I was shocked at how good it was. Book Hitler was also much more likeable than movie Hitler. He was so relateable I couldn't believe that the book was published.

There were only a few parts that were kind of lame (ex. Hitler declares the Dachshund to be the Jew of dogs).

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>>14519290
Without spoiling the book's ending, let's just say that it's completely different from the movie (and arguably much better).

>> No.14519335

>>14515171
i realized im actually a leftist who believes in the nation state

>> No.14519336

>>14516797
>winning a Hugo award mean something.
Well, it used to mean something.

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>>14519302
>Hitler declares the Dachshund to be the Jew of dogs)
The Borzoi is actually a very based breed though. as are jews i guess in their way

>> No.14519409

>>14515809
that’s wrong. most communists have no artistic ability and settle for criticism. Socialist realism is some of the shittiest stuff out there.

>> No.14519431

>>14519262
But she isn't you goddamn retard, she's a neolib

>> No.14519438

>>14519262
>>14519431
>hurr de fucking durr left/right blah blah im a retard
holy shit who FUCKING cares
tell me exactly what you achieve by calling some person or position left or right wing

>> No.14519534

>>14519438
owning the libs is what i live for. its what i'll die for.

>> No.14519555

>>14518181
The only true left winger was Pol Pot, thus talking about left wing literature is pointless.

>> No.14519865

>>14515545
Just because a work happens to have been authored by an left or right-leaning individual, doesnt necessarily mean the piece itself is inherently political. Ezra Pound was an outright fascist, how is that ideology reflected in the cantos?

>> No.14519882

Nigger

>> No.14519970

I have some more conservative views in the sense of preserving older values, but there is little more I hate then self-titled capital C Conservatives. They're the most fucking retarded people alive holy shit.

>> No.14520005

>>14518978
Left-wing politics seeks to reduce the overall power of hierarchies, right-wing politics seek to increase it instead. Communists were at least in theory striving for a classless society, so they are left-wing. Liberals can be either right or left wing, depending on the particular movement and the state of the world at the moment

>> No.14520051

>>14520005
Why do you care about theory more than practice? If their actions reinforced hierarchies, they should be considered right-wing.

>> No.14520063

>>14515171
>provides 2 examples

>> No.14520653

>>14516132
>Atlas Shrugged
Literally the worst book I've ever read.

>> No.14520734

>>14516197
He wasn't poking fun, dialects were just his biggest weakness as a writer.

>> No.14520746

>>14515171
>Wallace
>Leftist

No.

>Because here’s something else that’s true. In the day-to-day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshiping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God… is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you…. Worship power — you will feel weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to keep the fear at bay. Worship your intellect, being seen as smart — you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on….

>Look, the insidious thing about these forms of worship is… that they are unconscious. They are default-settings. They’re the kind of worship you just gradually slip into, day after day, getting more and more selective about what you see and how you measure value without ever being fully aware that that’s what you’re doing. And the world will not discourage you from operating on your default-settings, because the world of men and money and power hums along quite nicely on the fuel of fear and contempt and frustration and craving and the worship of self. Our own present culture has harnessed these forces in ways that have yielded extraordinary wealth and comfort and personal freedom. The freedom to be lords of our own tiny skull-sized kingdoms, alone at the center of all creation.

>> No.14520774

>>14518893
>the linear spectrum is as stated
What you seem to find a virtue, I find a fault that allows for no subtlety. Politics is more like the AIDS quilt than any line or horseshoe or circle or other overly simplified model. Trying to force everyone to use this as a model for argumentation invites strawman arguments.

>> No.14521110

>>14518340
Notice there is no answer to this complete BTFO.

>> No.14521157

>>14515282
>infinite jest
>is it sincere?

>invisible cities
>are the cities visible?

>of mice and men
>so it has nothing to do with mice or men?

>> No.14521327

>>14518340
The slavs really did prove that hitler was correct about them.

>> No.14521406

>>14516132
Kafka was a communist and you’re a retarded libtardarian

>> No.14521563

>>14515545
Harry Potter is way more influential than any of 4 books on the right.

>> No.14522003

>>14518712
orwell was a social democrat. his only criticism of the soviet union is that it wasn't gay

>> No.14522654

>>14515282
yes. It is a deeply sincere book.

>> No.14522691

>>14515545
HP is a retarded liberal dream of the status quo.
Just fucking look at the story. Shit is about to be overthrown, a massive inefficient and immoral bureaucracy exists, and literal slavery, and the big deal and pissy problem is for some reason protecting this bullshit state of affairs by kicking the ass of some random usurper in an empty feel-good manner without saying anything about anything.

>> No.14522700

>>14522003
>social democrat
Democratic socialist. Never trust The Rose.

>> No.14523422

>>14518562
Based Homeland poster

>> No.14523434

>>14522700
Does anyone line rosefags? Theyre like the worst of all worlds

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>>14521563
that was the point leftoid asshat. Leftoids are idiots that consume nothing but infantile pop culture sewage

>> No.14524936

reminder that writing is a fascistic act and anyone no matter political affiliation who propagates reading is a promoter of a Jovian mimetic shift

>> No.14525147

>>14515545
I would hesitate to call the cantos literature.

>> No.14525661

>>14515961
There is a world of difference stop buying into America's bastardization of english

>> No.14525664

>>14516354
Oh, you're THAT kind of idiot

>> No.14525668

>>14516132
>Kafka
>Right wing
cope

>> No.14525671

>>14515809
>when you realize that Communism is actually an aristocratic reaction against liberalism designed to get the serfs back on the tenant farm again

>> No.14525674

>>14517573
You're describing authoritarianism vs libertarianism, this isn't a unique or original thought its just another dimension of political discourse, just because you put more value in that axis doesn't mean the economic axis is irrelevant

>> No.14525682

>>14518712
T. doesn't know anything

>> No.14525683

>>14518978
the USSR DID implement truly left-wing policies, they were just forced into (relative) sanity under Stalin. Obviously the bar was not set high by that point.

>> No.14525689

>>14516161
nice blanket statement buzzwords you sure showed everyone

>> No.14525696

>>14519262
Wow you're so unashamedly American it hurts

>> No.14525708

>>14518911
It is in the American context, because in this context the left is about abolishing traditional moral values and local hierarchies, via centralization and expansion of state power, in the name of promoting autonomy for marginalized groups or outsiders.

>> No.14525756

>>14525696
Literally everyone knows the Democrats are the leftist party.

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14525773

Tedwing is the correct wing

>> No.14525774

>>14515171
>no storm of steel
consider suicide OP

>> No.14525820

What's the left-wing equivalent of Siege?

>> No.14527171

>>14521327
Hey don't group us with the Russians, we don't like them either.

>> No.14527217

What counts as right wing lit?

>> No.14528104

>>14519534
Respectable AND based, but take it to /pol/.

>> No.14528116

>>14525820
Scumm

>> No.14528187

>>14515171
this has to be a troll because every book in the pic sucks

>> No.14528196

>>14515171
This is the single most detestable, (You)-draining chunk of bait I have ever had the displeasure of seeing with my own two eyes

>> No.14528284

>>14518978
To be of the right is to support hierarchy. Historically, the left and right divide has nothing to do with economics, but was a division between supporters of the French monarchy and its opposition. Over time and in other contexts the terms were used more colloquially to signify conservative support for the aristocracies of Europe and their liberal opposition. By WW2, any support or recognition of hierarchy is enough to be considered right wing, while the various egalitarians are considered of the left. This is why the Soviets under Stalin referred to themselves as "right wing socialists."

>> No.14528342

>>14519025
Literally cry more. A personal attack isn't an argument.

>> No.14528354

>>14521406
This. Sick of right-tards claiming authors who have nothing in common with asinine right wing ideology

>> No.14528379

>>14515545
JLB a right winger? Very thin, what you claim. There can be made a point, that there’s a lot of good lit by right wing authors, but you managed to pick all the wrong ones

>> No.14528408

>>14515171
What kind of chart is this, have your (you) and stop putting up strawmen

>> No.14528453

>>14521563
lmao

Borges and Mishima alone had more influence on the world of literature than Harry Potter ever will

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>>14515171
The only real dichotomy

>> No.14528562

>>14528556
100 years is nazbol

>> No.14528593

>>14516161
Non of these you named were communists. Tolstoy was the only one with socialist ideas in the boradest sense

>> No.14528600

>>14528562
Marquez was perhaps one of the most left-leaning authors of Latin America, with the possible exception of Pablo Neruda.

>> No.14528693

>>14524803
The market, through fair competition, has decided the worth of Harry Potter to be infinitely higher than that of the rightoid shit.

You seem upset with it, and instead of admitting defeat gracefully, spit venom at people expressing their freedom to choose, while vegemently defending and posting pictures of actual losers. People who have competed, and then lost.

My questions to you would be then:
1) Why do you hate competition?
2) Why do you stan losers?
3) Why can't you admit defeat?

>>14528453
Borges may be somewhat comparable, but only among intellectuals. Mishima? Gook shit LMAO.
Also, missed opportunity to bring up Junger.

>> No.14528756

>>14518640
Based