/lit/ - Literature

>My love for you allows me to pray to the spirit of eternal beauty and tenderness mirrored in your eyes or fling you down under me on that softy belly of yours and fuck you up behind, like a hog riding a sow, glorying in the very stink and sweat that rises from your arse, glorying in the open shape of your upturned dress and white girlish drawers and in the confusion of your flushed cheeks and tangled hair.

This man is a master of juxtaposition.

inb4 farts

To NORA
Dublin 8 December 1909
My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

arse full of farts

sage because everyone knows this already

>>1451860

that just can't be real.


I'm sorry.


Is this real?

>>1451868
Yeah, there's tons of those letters.
Sometimes it feels like Joyce was browsing /b/ inside his head.

>>1451870
Jung once said about their daughter's schizophrenia, that while she was falling to the bottom of a river, James was diving.

>>1451870

He must have been. It's somehow comforting to know that such an astounding genius got so worked up whilst fucking his girl that he wanted her to fart in his face. Ying and yang, and all that.

>>1451885
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Nora shitting.

>>1451893
Farting, shitting, it's all good.

In the biography of Jung I read years ago I remember something about him really wanting to meet Joyce based on his work confirming various aspects of Jung's ideas, and wanting to diagnose him...I think they did actually meet and Jung was horrified...hazy on the details.

>>1451900
Why was he horrified?

>>1451900
Jung used to give Lucia Joyce counselling.

>>1451857

INB4: INTESTINAL EXHALATIONS.

Is Joyce the greatest writer ever?

>Ireland

>>1451929

One of them. However because people have dared to call him the greatest there will now be a butthurt shitstorm in reply to this question.

>>1451929
Yes, insofar as there can be one.
No since there just can't be one.

Have I shocked you by the dirty things I wrote to you? You think perhaps that my love is a filthy thing. It is, darling, at some moments. I dream of you in filthy poses sometimes. I imagine things so very dirty that I will not write them until I see how you write yourself. The smallest things give me a great cockstand - a whorish movement of your mouth, a little brown stain on the seat of your white drawers, a sudden dirty word spluttered out by your wet lips, a sudden immodest noise made by you behind and then a bad smell slowly curling up out of your backside. At such moments I feel mad to do it in some filthy way, to feel your hot lecherous lips sucking away at me, to fuck between your two rosy-tipped bubbies, to come on your face and squirt it over your hot cheeks and eyes, to stick it between the cheeks of your rump and bugger you.

These are pretty raunchy letters.

Never read anything by JJ but those letters make me think he's as smart as the average /b/tard.

>>1452013
>horny = dumb
sure thing there, buddy

>>1452025
If the man cant control his urges without sounding like a complete tool he can't be the best writer ever.

>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you
>You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you

>>1452028
You sound pretty dumb and a complete tool. Joyce sounds like he had an awesome relationship and sex-life, and was pretty creative and imaginative.

>>1452028
>>1452028
>implying anyone here said he was the greatest writer ever

also
>writing dirty letters to your wife
>HURRR CAN'T CONTROL URGES

>>1452013
>I haven't read any of his works but I think he's dumb. Derp.

>>1452048
Let me clarify that he was the greatest writer ever.

>>1452060
Let me clarify that I agree.

>I have taught you almost to swoon at the hearing of my voice singing or murmuring to your soul the passion and sorrow and mystery of life and at the same time have taught you to make filthy signs to me with your lips and tongue, to provoke me by obscene touches and noises, and even to do in my presence the most shameful and filthy act of the body. You remember the day you pulled up your clothes and let me lie under you looking up at you while you did it? Then you were ashamed even to meet my eyes.

>most shameful and filthy act of the body

Wait, what is he talking about?

Funny how that shit could be some wow cybering pasta 1:1.

>>1452090
He watched her shit in front of him.

>>1452111
She took a dump on him?
wut

Isnt it kind of frustrating that it all boils down to this in the end anyways?
People taking dumps on each other and sniffing their own farts?

and in the end the question that bothered the 'greatest writer of all time' the most was when his wife is going to shit in his face again.
I'd rather read mein kampf.
At least hitler was well adjusted.

>>1452353
In Joyce's defence, those letters were clearly not meant for the reading public.

And Hitler is rumoured to have done some freaky shit, too. I.E. having his niece piss on him.

>>1452358
In hitlers case the rumors were probably spread by jewish propaganda.

>>1451860
>naughty farties

This had me laughing.

Joyce's letters are not news.

sage

>>1452385
This board isnt about news you faggot.
It's about literature discussion, those letters are literature.
Go fuck yourself, tripfag.

...Where the fuck in the letters posted does he mention her shitting on him? I can take that he watched her shit
>and even to do in my presence the most shameful and filthy act of the body
(I wouldn't interpret that necessarily as shitting, but I'm guessing you guys probably know more about it than I do)
and that he liked her farts, and he liked her to fart directly onto his face....
But where are you getting that he liked her shitting on him? Unless he said it elsewhere, these letters do not serve as proper evidence to make that claim. I'm not saying that I'd care if he did (hey man, people like what they like), I just don't understand :/

>>1452522
What is it if not shitting?

Really, old boy, you have to offer alternatives if you're going to criticise. Everyone knows this.

>>1452442
I meant news to this board. This topic comes up on /lit/ constantly.

Stop being a slanderous piece of shit and read Ulysses.

>>1452588
...farting. Are you stupid? He doesn't say anything about her shitting on him.

>>1452588
...That's not even the point of my post. I even said I was fine with your interpretation, given the time period and all that. All I asked was where you guys got the idea that she shits on him.

/lit/ - where we argue about whether Nora Barnacle shit on James Joyce

Joyce--and anyone else, for that matter--wouldn't call farting the most shameful and filthy act of the body. Use your brains, people.

>>1452605
"You remember the day you pulled up your clothes and let me lie under you looking up at you while you did it? Then you were ashamed even to meet my eyes."

Do you understand the phrase "lie under you"? Because that part is sort of crucial to understanding this.

>>1452623
When did I say that he thinks that?
Jesus, I thought you guys were supposed to be good at reading. I never doubted that when he talks about watching her perform depraved acts, he's talking about watching her shitting. What I asked was when the fuck he says that she shits on him. AND NO ONE HAS ANSWERED YET

>>1452631

"good at reading," yourself,
>>1452628

>>1452628
"while you did it" implies sex, not shit in my opinion. Do you know for a fact that that's what he meant? I suppose you could be right, but the phrasing he used allows for a fucking shit ton of interpretations.

>>1452653
They were posted within 59 seconds of one another. I hadn't the option to read it when I hit submit.

>>1452658

Nonsense. Read the goddamn lines, idiot.

"...even to do in my presence the most shameful and filthy act of the body. You remember the day you pulled up your clothes and let me lie under you looking up at you while you did it? Then you were ashamed even to meet my eyes."

He is clearly NOT talking about just sex with this woman who was too ashamed afterwards to even look at him.

You all suck at reading.