/lit/ - Literature

Yes.
He's up there with Plato.

I can't really enjoy reading him for some reason. I'm into philosophy as much as fiction but this guy belongs to nowhere. I'll have to try again someday.

>>14510439
Yes. In translation Frame for the Essays and Travelogue; also Frame's short bio. Sarah Bakewell's book is actually a good recently writ intro.

"We should try being more reasonable and fair. We don't really know anything about anything."
[Barely relevant anecdote from Plutarch about a Roman general doing something wacky that probably isn't true.]
"We're all gonna die eventually."

He's fascinating.

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>>14510439
I don't agree with everything he says but he's my favorite kind of thinker. Just a guy sharing his thoughts, not afraid to go against the grain. You get a lot of secondhand history education from him too, or at least invitations to learn about particular parts of history.

>>14510439
Montaigne has a little something for everyone :)

He seemed like a very boring person and depressed.

I absolutely love Montaigne, he is my favorite writer and thinker

>>14510657
This

>>14510887
This is also good, Bakewell's book is great.

>>14510761
>I'm into philosophy as much as fiction but this guy belongs to nowhere.
You're not reading enough confessional philosophy and/or essayistic fiction. There is no sharp line.

>>14510439
Homer is a great example of an old man carefully reciting a story. Montaigne is a great example of a cool uncle talking about life. Nothing wrong with the latter, I'm just using a comparison. Yes, his essays are wonderful.

>>14511295

It’s those fucking anecdotes that throw me off about him. I try to get into his writing then there’s
Iike half a page of exactly that like what???

>>14514262
>like what
Like the poetic nature of his (or any) mind. It's important to remember how the mind behaves in its free style glory, a very common everyday thing that the rule hungry understanding somehow (every bit as commonly) forgets.

>>14512662
Sounds based

Recommended translation?

>>14511295
he sounds like my dad

>>14510439
Finally was able to buy his Essays yesterday. The edition in my mother tongue is scarce, but a random bookstore in the south had it. I like him very much but I haven't read all his essays; this will soon change.

>>14510657
He's great, but come on anon.

Plato "is" Western philosophy. Even Heidegger and Delueze are no better than neoplatonists.

>>14511295
this is him, get's kind of boring after the seventh essay, he's an anti-philosopher, read him as a literary figure

>>14511295
>>14514262
>these fucking autistic bugpeople have no poetic consciousness

>>14514989
This
>>14510887

>>14510439
I'm legit too low IQ to read Montaigne, there's so many historical and policical references

Why are all of the covers completely disgusting?

>>14512662
Just like me

Montaigne is full of gems.

Read this two nights ago.

>>14510439
Hell yes! I was reading Emerson's essay on Montaigne last night from Representative Men. Emerson's a fanboi when it comes to him.

>>14515264
Amazing.

Are the rest of his essays like this?

>>14515056
Whatever you say you crypto neo-Montaigneist.

>>14515212
Get an old UCal Frame

Another ardent fan of Montaigne here. His essays have sat on my nightstand for years. He’s become the best friend I never met.

>>14510439
he is a product of being extremly well read in antiquity. The guys father hired a tutor so that while growing up he only knew latin, learned French later.
I aspire to be as refined a reader and writer as him.

>>14512662
He thought sadness was a disgusting and weak emotion which he did not entertain
Not that depression is synonymous with sadness, but if you deny sadness entirely you are not depressed

bof

>>14515789
more like a self indulgent waste of everyone's time that accomplishes nothing

>>14515308
Dude, wait until you read his essay on helping his friend overcome erectile dysfunction

>Cicero says that to philosophize is no other thing than for a man to prepare himself for death: which is the reason that study and contemplation does in some sort withdraw our souls from us and take it away from the body, which is a sort of training for death; or else it is, that all the wisdom and talk of the world, does in the end resolve upon this point, to teach us not to fear death.

Shakespeare loved him and read him through Florio's English translation.

>>14510439
He made every French intellectual seeth for nearly a hundred years after his death, of course we like him

>>14517625
Especially Pascal, who just wasn't his equal

>>14517726
True, everyone made Pascal seeth though.

>>14517739
True, but ESPECIALLY I'll maestro

>>14517893
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>>14510439
I didn´t read it but his Essays look kinda boring

>>14517254
>Shakespeare loved him
Says who?

>>14517914
One of two books he owned with his signature in it and some marginalia fwiw

>>14517991
That only shows he read him, not that he necessarily loved him.

>>14518018
https://newrepublic.com/article/118664/shakespeares-debt-montaigne

>The answer is to be found in Shakespeare’s last solo-authored play, The Tempest, a work sometimes seen as a self-conscious meditation on his own art...His oration is an exact transcription, with some amplification, of a passage in Montaigne’s essay “Of the Cannibals,” as translated by Florio

>>14518028
Again, not necessarily indicative that he loved him. Shakespeare worked with a lot of sources.

>>14518073
I cannot offer first hand proof of Shakespeare explicitly stating that so I'll concede, since that seems to be the only thing that'll satisfy you. Yet, by reading his essais and then Shakespeare, if you still cannot see the fraternal bond, kys.

>>14518190
I have no interest in reading his essays because they sound like a bore. kys jew fanboy

>>14518439
filtered

>>14518673
faggot