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>TECHNOLOGY WILL MAKE HUMAN GO BEYOND BEING HUMAN

Ye right

>> No.14509225
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>>14509206


>Hates ted

>> No.14509233

>>14509206
I don't believe this has anything to do with neural networks, it reads like a really bad markov chain text generator that people have been fucking about with since forever.

>> No.14509626

>>14509233
So you don't think it's ANNs because the results are shit? You just think it's inconceivable that the real issue is that ANNs are also shit?

>> No.14509636

these things are eerily similar to undergraduate papers

>> No.14509640

>>14509626
I think he just built it wrong and has made something equivalent to a bad markov chain text generator.

>> No.14509651

>>14509636
Undergraduate papers tend to lack original assertions and ramble around the subject with fairly low persistence of ideas, lots of fluff.

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>>14509225
Damn you weren't kidding

>> No.14509664

>>14509652
It's like it's developed the ability to be extremely passive aggressive and snarky.

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>>14509206
Pardon?

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>> No.14509788

>>14509651
it's the vague circumlocutions that remind me of undergrad writing

>On the theory plane,
especially this, they always do shit like this because they're trying out so many new ideas/ways of thinking/phrasing. it can be cute but it's sometimes exhausting when it's masking centerless fluff like you said

>> No.14510792

>>14509652
>The future may well be something we find out about

indeed

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Well, fuck.

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>>14509206
The techies of course will argue that even if the human body and brain as we know them become obsolete, immortality in the form (ii) can still be achieved: Man-machine hybrids will permanently retain their usefulness, because by linking themselves with ever-more-powerful machines human beings (or what is left of them) will be able to remain competitive with pure machines.

But man-machine hybrids will retain a biological component derived from human beings only as long as the human-derived biological component remains useful. When purely artificial components become available that provide a better cost-versus-benefit balance than human-derived biological components do, the latter will be discarded and the man-machine hybrids will lose their human aspect to become wholly artificial. Even if the human-derived biological components are retained they will be purged, step by step, of the human qualities that detract from their usefulness. The self-prop systems to which the man-machine hybrids belong will have no need for such human weaknesses as love, compassion, ethical feelings, esthetic appreciation, or desire for freedom. Human emotions in general will get in the way of the self-prop systems' utilization of the man-machine hybrids, so if the latter are to remain competitive they will have to be altered to remove their human emotions and replace these with other motivating forces. In short, even in the unlikely event that some biological remnants of the human race are preserved in the form of man-machine hybrids, these will be transformed into something totally alien to human beings as we know them today.

The same applies to the hypothesized survival of human minds in "uploaded" form inside machines. The uploaded minds will not be tolerated indefinitely unless they remain useful (that is, more useful than any substitutes not derived from human beings), and in order to remain useful they will have to be transformed until they no longer have anything in common with the human minds that exist today.

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>> No.14512029

>>14509640
If you have to "build it right," then you're just p-hacking.