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14495325 No.14495325 [Reply] [Original]

All of reality is a prison. The question is, what’s outside that prison? The thing that made it is something way beyond us.

>> No.14495331

>>14495325
Pleroma is what is outside it, the fullness of God

>> No.14495332

>>14495325
It's impossible to know what lies outside of reality. It's impossible to observe the outer reality. Anybody who claims to know the answer is a liar.

>> No.14495352

>>14495325
communism

>> No.14495354

whats outside of life is infinity and its probably boring (from our current reference point) and without personality

>> No.14495384
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>>14495325
>All of reality is a prison
no

>> No.14495387

>The physical world is evil and God exists entirely outside of it
Fuck gnostics

>> No.14495393

>>14495325
>what's outside that prison?
A life without Jews.

>> No.14495396

>>14495384
Based!

>> No.14495404

>>14495387
The problem with you christcucks is that you take it completely literally.

>> No.14495406

>>14495404
how else is it supposed to be taken?

>> No.14495418

>>14495325
>All of reality is a prison. The question is, what’s outside that prison? The thing that made it is something way beyond us.
i dont have anything contribute and nothing of value can possibly come from this thread, but i want to say it is a good one, and piss christ a good detail

>> No.14495456

>>14495406
the same way all metaphysics is taken...

>> No.14495457

>>14495406
Symbolically

>> No.14495462
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>>14495457
>>14495456
thats not what symbolically means you fucking geunonian pseud

>> No.14495472

>>14495462
"as or by means of a symbol or symbolism."

Think you need a dictionary

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>>14495462
2 people you dumb nigger

>> No.14495486

>>14495479
they were both equally stupid
>>14495472
if a metaphysical statement cant be taken literally, it isnt a metaphysical statement

>> No.14495501

>>14495486
Not the same person but jesus christ this is completely retarded. Metaphysics uses logic and language as supports to convey an image. It is through retroduction, apophatism and analogy that metaphysics is more genuinely conveyed.

>> No.14495526

>>14495486
what a pseud

>> No.14496450
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>>14495406

Metaphoric-fractal.

>> No.14496500

>>14495325
Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy--our life, our sweetness, and our hope--to thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve, to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy towards us, and, after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb--Jesus. Oh clement, oh loving, oh sweet Virgin Mary, pray for us Holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Amen.

>> No.14496540

>>14495387

You will find that this is precisely what Catholics believe. That, behind each affirmation of immanence, there is a Salafi worship of transcendence, both by applying Logic against the Catholic AND, most importantly, by talking him for his word. One of the more obvious examples being their obsession with "the fall", no matter which way they affirm Creation as good, they will always run into the wall of "the fall" making it bad, the latter ultimately containing the former. Consider their Christophobia, almost a joke of only caring about him inasmuch as he died, and, more importantly, only caring THAT he died, otherwise proudly putting the words of random hillbillies above his, and what it means for the whole immanence-transcendence dichotomy.

>> No.14496605

>>14496540
What Catholic theology have you actually read?

>> No.14496617

I met Andres Serrano once, he was pretty cool

>> No.14496637

>>14496540
Well every Catholic has a Gnostic living free rent in his or her skull.

>> No.14496640

>>14496605

None.

>> No.14496642

>>14496637
Is that so? How so?

>> No.14496647

>>14495325
>talking about mental prisons
>posts picture of “PiSs JeSuS”
>wonders what happen if someone did “Piss Hanukkah” or “Piss Kwanzaa”

so many questions OP

>> No.14496650

>>14496640
You might think it's a foolish question, but forgive me for asking--how have you learned what Catholics think?

>> No.14496658

>>14496647
>>wonders what happen if someone did “Piss Hanukkah” or “Piss Kwanzaa”
Nothing.

>> No.14496659

>>14495325
It's not a prison you retard it's a dream that continues to exist only as long the Self finds it interesting

>> No.14496667

>>14496658

piss muhammad?

>> No.14496746

>>14496650

Only Catholic and Salafis have children "for God". Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

>> No.14496760

>>14496746

>Salafis

eunuch.

>> No.14496761

>>14496746
As a Catholic, what do you mean?

>> No.14496794

>>14495331
Do you lose individuality?

>> No.14496830

>>14495325
you can't access reality, only you perceptions of it.

>> No.14496887

Can you actually get over the fear of the death?

>> No.14496981

>>14496794
I'm not a jivanmukta, but all religions agree that union with God, or participation- for those religions that do not admit union- implies, in a certain degree, to a lost of individuality, yes.

>> No.14496998

>>14495325
STFU you tree-climbing ape, you sub-human, you (perhaps literal) nigger, you African-American

>> No.14497024

>>14495325
Reality is a natural prison and time, space, infinity etc. are all contributors/parts of it. Being able to escape it, means achieving transcendence i.e divinity

>> No.14497118

>>14496887
Yes.To encounter the pleroma of God is to lose fear of everything. Is to lose everything, in truth; in all gaining.

>> No.14497158

>>14497118
>encounter the pleroma of God
how?

>> No.14497635
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>>14497158

Dialectically.

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>>14496667
>Piss Islam
Ohhhh I can already sense the salt from Muslims

>> No.14498086

>>14497635
Sadly, i dont get it.

>> No.14498416

>>14495332
Math is a field of study on things outside reality, retard
inb4
>i-i mean a bigger idea of reality, one that includes math!
The truth behind math lies outside your idea of reality, human math is an approximation to that truth, evidently we can indirectly observe things outside reality: math is one such thing.

>> No.14499021

>>14497796
>making this image and leaving out the 3 instance sof blackgface

how cucked ar yo?

>> No.14499059

If there is an outside to a reality, then there is no reason to deny the possibility that there is also an outside to that outside reality, and an outside to that outside outside reality ad infinitum. If this is an infinite ascension, all possibilities or at least all logical possibilities will be realized in that set of realities, and so eventually you arrive at a reality way outside your own reality which is similar enough to it to realize "outside" and "inside" are fucking stupid words to use when describing the idea of reality.

>> No.14499201

>>14496794
Yeah pretty much, most of what makes you you(flesh and soul) won't even make it, only pneuma, the breath of God

>> No.14499202

>>14495325
Nigga why are you posting Christ in piss? You’re fucking nasty bro.

>> No.14499220

>>14498086
You can't perceive the true reality but you can still conceive it and hence mentally "touch" it via the Hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis and synthesis