/lit/ - Literature

first for thank you thread slave

sanderfag a hack

>everyday sffg gets more social and we move further away from god

Worry not, for a traitor lurks among them.

>>14486089
>implying that matters in slightest

>>14486085
Why are newfags so defensive when it's even remotely implied that they don't know something? Kids need to lurk a lot more before posting.

>>14486085
Xianxia is just about wish fulfillment. Treating it that seriously is almost funny. Anyway if you think that a book without any torture, rape or even senseless murder is edgy then you have seen nothing yet.

first for Ice voters killed the monthly read

I remember reading a book about a parasitic alien that starts taking over a human colony. It was a mildly obscure book, but I'd appreciate it if anyone here could help me find it.
I remember some characters being on a specific life-extending medicine and that there were bits from the alien POV. It was basically an invasion from a single form to a full scale planet-rape.
Does anyone know any similar books? I have only vague memories since I read it in my teens.

>>14486175
Nah mate, I killed monthly read. Ice was more in line with my vision than 3/4 of the books we read.

>>14486148
It has nothing to do with being new.(which I am) And everything to do with hating that line of reasoning people use. My friend irl does it all the time. I'll bring up something that I find odd or noteworthy, and he'll dismiss it with "well it's [noun]". As if it washes everything I've said away. Like
>Me: This pizza isn't very good
>Him: Well it's pizza hut
>Me: This game is so grindy
>Him: Well it's an RPG
>Me: This character is so frustrating
>Him: Well she's a tsun-tsun.
It's like, ok, you categorized it for me, thanks. Now how does that change what I said? Is this supposed to be a counter argument? Or are you just blowing hot air? Like what is the contribution here?

>>14486174
>Xianxia is just about wish fulfillment. Treating it that seriously is almost funny.
Like in all things there is a good way to go about it, and a bad way to go about it. You can tell a story about broken power levels that doesn't rely on cheap tricks and tropes. Which is what I'm hoping the book manages to do going forward. Again, I'm keeping an open mind.

>if you think that a book without any torture, rape or even senseless murder is edgy
But it does have senseless murder. Are you reading the same book? And besides, I have read books with "worse" content. Yet, if they handle the subject matter well, then I wouldn't call it edgy. The edginess comes from how cheaply such subjects are portrayed.

Any decent book where enemies become lovers? Just a small time fetish since it pertains to me in real life and want to relive it again though books. But you never really see it, at least I have not.

So I finished Blade Runner and thought it was ok, but kinda fell apart near the end. What Philip K Dick should I read next or should I stick to Asimov or Arthur C Clarke?

>>14486494
Tell the story anon. We know you want to.

>>14486504
I didnt know blade runner was a book.

>>14486334
Senseless rape murder genocide and torture are all typical of xianxia. Don’t listen to bugmen apologists who tell you otherwise. Cradle tunes those down because it’s written by a westerner, but that’s the subgenre

>>14486593
Subscribe to my blog first and leave a like. Just giving a reason why I wanted a specific theme in a book.

>>14486617
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

>>14486494
i dig enemies to lovers as well, but it's only really present in chick lit

>>14486747
Pretty disappointing. Only one I know is Black Company with Croaker and Lady.

>>14486494
Black company sort of

>>14486795
>>14486803
>>14486494
Glen Cook's The Swordbearer has it too but its a short book so its nothing major and its really at the end.

>>14486674
Didn't realize the thread had moved. Would like to get /lit/'s opinions on this, the fantasy novel I published the other day:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083FHRCPN

Yes I know the title/subtitle looks like shit because of the way Amazon presents it. I can't do anything about that at this point, sadly.

>>14486815
looks like litrpg. how much sex does it have

>>14486815
The Good: Paid for a real cover, and it isn't terrible
The Bad: There isn't a catgirl on the cover

>>14486837
The main character gets a few uncomfortable boners and one of the side characters is a very crass person who's always *trying* to get laid and occasionally tried to brag about his success with women. Does that count?

>>14486854
Actually my very talented buddy Westly LaFleur made the cover for free because he is a good friend.

>>14486815
i won't pay for it but i can give you feedback if you link a pastebin with a 20 pages piece or something

not that my feedback should interest you

>>14486815
>>14486854
How much did it cost? I hope it wasnt too much. Looks like a middle school art student drew it for his deviant art account in 2006. How long did it take you to write the book?

Being an ass aside, I legit want to know how how much it costs to put your book on amazon, how much you get paid for kindle unlimited. How do you make money and how much do you make if I can read it for free with a ton of other books for $10 a month? If I read 10 books, each book gets a dollar, but amazon has a cut I am sure, so you get what, 50 cents per reader? How much has this book made you so far?

>>14486872
That is a good friend.
Send him my love but insist he draw more catgirls.

>>14486038
posted this earlier in another thread
>any books that are a more "serious" take on Isekai-type events?

like I'm looking for something that's like "another world with my Smartphone" but where the "other world" is a "dark sword and sorcery fantasy"-setting more in line with the Witcher or GoT than the more JRPG-esque settings.

>>14486879
You can read that much for free, I think, if you have Kindle Unlimited. Do you?

>>14486881
I'm just gonna have to disagree about the art, I think he did a great job. It took me a couple months to write the book, but the better part of a year to edit it (I took a lot of breaks and I hate editing).

It's free to put your book on Amazon. I think I get paid per page read for Kindle Unlimited - due to the length of my novel I think this is less than if someone just bought my book (and MUCH less if they bought a hardcopy).

I've only sold like four copies in the few days since this was published, so I've made ten bucks. This is my first book and I suck at marketing so I'm not expecting a gigantic deluge of sales off of it, but a man can hope.

>>14486897
I'll seriously put a catgirl in the second book if you buy a copy of this one.

>>14486919
My guess would be The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant though I've never seen your animu

>>14486926
>I'll seriously put a catgirl in the second book if you buy a copy of this one.
Well, uh, is it DRM free? I don't pay for books I can't own.

>>14486919
I should say the focus would be more on "attempting to develop industry" than "just going round adventuring",

I just have this vision of a story in my head, and the main character basically encounters a whole shitload of issues that have to do from the various guilds, to being entirely foreign from the world, concepts and technologies that we literally don't even consider but which are essential...

basically I want a book where a character explains manufacturing tolerances to dwarven artisan smiths.

>>14486944
I am philosophically opposed to DRM and so I fucking slammed the "DON'T PUT DRM IN MY BOOK YOU BEZOS-LOVING SHITBAGS" button with the hateful and fiery force of a thousand suns.

tl;dr: yes.

>>14486926
make it DRM free, many book fags are hyper autistic about it but to be fair I cant really fault them on this issue.

>>14486953
Already is. ^^^ See above.

>>14486950
>it's basically "Trying to create a tech startup in a medieval fantasy setting".

I'll never get why people are so completely autistic about drm when you can literally import any kindle book into calibre and strip all the drm out in seconds.

>>14486950
A Hero's War has a lot of that.

>>14486179
Puppet Masters was similar.

>>14486926
>if you have Kindle Unlimited. Do you?
no, i don't like amazon they are too big

>>14486926
>I suck at marketing
Go on fiver or something and spend around $400 paying 40 people $10 each to buy your book and leave 25 5* reviews, 10 4* reviews, and 5 3* reviews. Write each review for them to submit.

The goal here is to generate more feedback so real buyers will be enticed. Most people just glance at the rating and move on if its not a lot or high feedback. Thats when you get your money back and more. the 400 is just an investment.

>>14486966
Yes, I am quite capable. It's against my principles to exchange money for it.

>>14486966
It wont do the newest amazon books unless you use some old kindle pc app first so its an annoying workaround most people dont want to do.

>>14486978
>generate some fake very good reviews
>this makes lots of people buy it expecting very a good book
>you get lots of bad angry real reviews
it's not a clever strategy medium-long term

>>14486815
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083FHRCPN
I'll read it

>>14486987
We get it, you're a pirate trying to justify never paying for books. Continue being poor and pretending that talking about your pirated books constitutes 'exposure' all you want but books have never been cheaper in 2020.

>>14487006
I get around it because I have an old Kindle Keyboard too, I download the files to them and then they copy over fine because the older style ones download the books in AZ3 format, not the digital one with extra DRM. Honestly picking up a second hand kindle keyboard is probably the best way forward if you've got a huge kindle library and wanna stick them in a library forever.

>>14487030
>kindle keyboard
what

>>14486972
Suppose I agree entirely but as a new author I'm stuck either languishing in obscurity or dealing with an evil empire. I'm in the Discord in OP if you want to contact me for some free content.

>>14486978
This sounds like a great way to get my book removed from Amazon for cheating the system. I have an existing fanbase from Twitch and I handed out some free review copies to them _ should be getting a few reviews off of that.

>>14487014
This.

>>14487016
Thanks senpai. Hope you enjoy.

>>14486494
Shards of Honor

>>14487039
I dont know how amazon would catch it. They are paying customers paying will money with their own accounts. Just pay a few at a time and wait a few days and repeat over the next month or so.

>>14486617

>>14487042
>book 1 of 16
I dont know anon. Is it good?

>>14486504
Valis

>>14487058
It's separate from the rest of the story, which is mostly about their kid, and it's good, especially if you like mature middle-aged romance.

>>14487039
>I'm in the Discord in OP if you want to contact me for some free content.
sorry i'm anti-discord too and they don't let me use their platform anyway

why not drop here a pastegin snippet though? some other anons might also want to give you feedback or even buy it, it's cheap as fuck

>>14487038
Some of the earlier kindles had keyboards, physical buttons and even speakers that could read the books aloud without requring the books (they were sometimes sketchy and more of a google translate level of speech) it took me a VERY long time to justify getting a Paperwhite considering how good those old kindles were.

>>14487082
Only a matter of time until Amazon kills support for it.

>>14487030
>We get it, you're a pirate trying to justify never paying for books.
I mostly read physical books. I don't mind paying for digital, but only if I actually own them afterward.

>>14486085
>>Not sure what you mean by edge
>>Every character is a prick for little to no reason.
>>Characters are hurt for mere displays of power, so the reader can go "cooool!"
>>The main character constantly thinks about how people stronger than him can kill him without remorse or reprimand. And he's probably right. Anyone can suddenly kill anyone for cheap shock value, and the contrived societal norms allow it.
>>Bad guys pull "PSH, nothing personal kid" tier overpowered attacks that instantly maim or kill, again for cheap shock value.
>It's edgy.
You never dealt with, or observed chinks, have you? Cradle is a western take on a Chinese genre. Because of their billions of people, Chinese give little to no shit about the worth of human life. They are called bug men for a reason. What you read in cradle is tame compared to what the chinks write. Chinks are all about giving face. What you see in cradle is the same shit that happens in the yakuza and triads, except no supernatural shit. I laugh at underage newfags that know nothing of the world coming in here and calling things edgy, just to fit in.
Kys

>>14487082
the touch screen killed ereaders. my new Kobo is slower than the old one and i'm pretty sure it's because the useless touch screen eats up all the cpu, and also lots of space which could be used on more cpu

>>14486803
>Black company sort of
Croaker literally changes the course of history by being incredibly horny for someone he's never met and has only heard bad things about

>>14487071
>why not drop here a pastegin snippet though?

I guess I am allowed to make available up to 10% of the book under KDP Select/Unlimited's rules. I'd just have to decide what section to make available - as the beginning of a series, it starts up a little slowly for the first chapter or two. Maybe an action scene? What do you think?

>>14487151
it me

>>14486919
There's no magic besides the portals but Merchant Princes might be your best bet for this

Protag portals from the real world to a "what if the vikings colonised america" world and from that to something kinda steampunk.
The actual focus of the books is half palace intrigue half exploiting the real world to control the economies and development of the other worlds.
>>14486950
>I should say the focus would be more on "attempting to develop industry" than "just going round adventuring",
>I just have this vision of a story in my head, and the main character basically encounters a whole shitload of issues that have to do from the various guilds, to being entirely foreign from the world, concepts and technologies that we literally don't even consider but which are essential...
okay outside of the dwarven stuff this is almost exactly what happens so this has gotta be your best fit

>>14487058
Vorkosigan isn't 16 in a row, they're relatively standalone and even outside of that the books are split into character arcs.

Shards of Honor has one pretty direct sequel (Barrayar) and otherwise just serves as the intro to the world.
The closest thing the series has to a primary protagonist isn't born until after the end of Shards

>>14486815
Congratulations, mate. Hope your book does well and you can keep writing. As to the guy who rated you 3 stars, think about this: is his criticism valid? How much do you agree with it?

>>14487111
So because "Chinks" do it, then it's not edgy? What are you saying? Disregard for life is pretty much number 1 on the list for edgy material.

>>14486815
From judging it's cover it doesn't look like something I would like. Leyline makes me think that there is magic involved, but how the characters are standing, and the youth in the armor makes me think it's some coming of age story, with some being human philosophy shit.

Let me guess, the boy likes that nubile half Asian chick, and those two guys are part of some organization that "keeps order" in someway? There is war in the title, so the guy is fighting to attain the notice of these girls, who is either a noble who doesn't notice him, or a girl who knew cock from a young age and is trying to escape that life.
How close am I?

>>14486950
>>14486919
Daniel Black is everything you're looking for... Sadly it's brought down bh the erotica, but if you ignore parts they pop up it's a great story.

>>14487263
Something like 50% of the things you said are vaguely-kind-of-sort-of on point, and the other half is just completely wrong.

>>14487245
It's not edgy because you are writing things that happen in real life.
If a news channel goes to some war torn country and they show all the killing and report on the many rapes, does that make them edgy?

>>14487233
>Congratulations, mate.
Thanks!

> is his criticism valid? How much do you agree with it?
Regarding the 3 star review: I think people are entitled to their opinions and I'm not really going to be the guy who shows up and replies to every negative criticism, nor would I really want to say that what they're saying is totally invalid. I want to respect my readers' opinions, even if I disagree with them.

With that said, I don't really agree with much of it. A lot of it seems to be centered around frustration that plot points aren't all tied up, but this is meant to be the first entry in a series. There are supposed to be loose ends, questions left unanswered, things to keep you interested in finding out what happens in the next book. If everything was tied up in a neat little bow, what's the point of writing a sequel?

I can't really address some of the other criticisms without spoiling the book, but I think - again - a lot of it is really related to not knowing what happens in the sequel. For example: "Another seems to start an unrelated storyline" for instance - sure, it may seem unrelated for now, but it won't later.

I do see where he's coming from on some of it, though. The "switching points of view" thing - not everyone is going to like that, sure. With regards to the "ending seeming unfocused" and the character having an identity crisis that the reader found unrealistic - I get where this reader is coming from. It could seem a little sudden, I'm sure, and there is a big cliffhanger at the end of this novel. I can see how this could be frustrating for some readers, and how it might feel unrealistic; with that said, the main character has some extremely heavy unexpected shit laid on him and he's already just been through an extremely harrowing adventure where his worldview was slowly chipped at the whole time. It's enough to make anyone have doubts and questions, imo.

Wait, there is actual book discussion going on?

>>14487321
If all they show is rapes and they turn the camera off when anyone rescues a cat from a tree or hugs a kid then yeah they're edgy.

>>14487344
>If everything was tied up in a neat little bow, what's the point of writing a sequel?
First-time authors don't have a good track record of actually writing that sequel. Why should they trust you to have a next step in your master plan over just not knowing how to finish things?

>>14487321
The news is a little edgy. Because they exploit suffering for ratings. They don't care as much as they pretend to care. They just want you to watch so they can sell advertisement slots.

Again, it's all how it's handled. If we say "well it happens in real life" as an excuse, then we can dismiss anything. Then nothing is edgy by that standard.

>>14486334
Senseless murder is when you gain nothing from it.

>>14487364
I'm not sure I totally agree with that definition. But still, using that definition, the book indeed has senseless murder.

>>14487357
> First-time authors don't have a good track record of actually writing that sequel.

True, but I'm already working on it.

> Why should they trust you to have a next step in your master plan over just not knowing how to finish things?

They don't have to believe me, it'll get published whether they trust me or not. I will say that it seems kinder to give people the benefit of the doubt. I assure you I would have written it differently if I wanted it to be a standalone.

>>14487344
>There are supposed to be loose ends, questions left unanswered, things to keep you interested in finding out what happens in the next book. If everything was tied up in a neat little bow, what's the point of writing a sequel?
Yeah I get that some readers might be bothered by this. Personally, I like the way Brandon Sanderson handles it in Mistborn. Each book has its own conflict and antagonist and he resolves it within the book. He doesn't end with cliffhangers, but there are a few minor loose ends which eventually become important. You might want to check it out if you haven't already. I know Sanderson is hated here but he's not nearly as bad as /sffg/ says.

>>14487377
Give one example.

>>14487402
could you please not reddit space

>>14487447
OK sorry, I'll try to remember not to. I actually despise Reddit but I somehow got into the habit of typing like I'm on there.

>>14487287
>can only find downloads for the first two books
Ill pass, cant find the last two and as a matter of principal I refuse to use amazons faggotry website kindle unlimited bs

>>14487486
>I can't use the internet
It best that you can't read it.

>>14487418
The spoiler in my post last thread. Not only have you not read the book, you can't even read a few posts back. YEESH. Look... Killing Lindon's mom made no difference. It was only used as a device to make the evil man appear even more evil by killing a character the protagonist cares about. I rolled my eyes when his mom's head rolled out of the sack. But then when Lindon had a choice to keep his memories after death, I perked up again. Because it sounded like he would have to choose between rewinding to before the time his mom was killed without memories, or rewinding only before the bad guy arrived with memories. The latter option being unable to revive his mom. Effectively forcing him to weigh his mom's life against the teeny tiny potential he has to save his clan. Which of course would be a GIANT motivator for him. Knowing that if he fails, then not only did he fail his clan, but he allowed his mother to die for nothing. But nope, we don't need to worry about that. Time reversal! Lindon gets everything he wanted for nothing. Mom died for no reason LOL.

Does /sffg/ have a list for all the essential pre-1900s works? I want to read Le Morte d'Arthur and Journey to the West this year.

>>14486334
>it's edgy BECAUSE I SAY SO
>this xianxia is like all the other xianxia even though I don't know what xianxia means and I haven't read other xianxia
Lurk for at least two more years then post a link to the stream where you kill yourself, dumb faggot.

>>14487082
Hell yeah brother. I had a Kindle 3 (keyboard) for a good 6 years or so until the screen fucked up and I ended up with a Paperwhite. Fucking love my Kindle(s).

>>14486494
The Bible.

>>14487643
Robot girls read Asimov?

>>14487654
>>this xianxia is like all the other xianxia
I never said that. Why are you concocting reason to get angy?

>>14487837
He's a xianxia protag

/sffg/, do you ever wish you could get away with blatant magical realm? I've got two scenes in mine that use it for character development, but I wish I could fit more in

>>14487837
Destroy your hands and apologize and I might forgive you.

>>14487890
What do you mean by magical realm? A plane of existence that people draw energy from?

>>14487503
Cripple your core and I won’t pull your clan out by their roots and exterminate them.

is priory of the orange tree any good

Give me good non chinese xianxia/cultivation novels. I dont want anything censored by the CCP

>>14487908

Any sfff with this aesthetic?

>>14487912
>pull your clan out by their roots
>and exterminate them.
That's redundant

>>14488004
David Hassleholf and kitt

>>14487503
It wasn't needless murder, the visitor from another plane wanted to help his descendants by killing their enemies. MC's mom just happened to be one of them. You seem to have misunderstood what I meant by needless murder.
And not that it matters but the dilemma proposed by you is the most trite shit ever. I can only laugh when you propose it as superior.

>In his debut novel, M.C. Coward presents a fresh post-apocalyptic fantasy world with intriguing characters, vivid prose, and complex themes. Outland is a desertscape of ancient magic and mysterious divine forces where little is as it seems. Among the lurking horrors there is also hidden beauty and hope in unexpected places. This lively, epic tale is sure to keep readers invested right up to its satisfying conclusion
>MC Coward
Is this post ironic? Is this what we have to look forward to in 2020?

>>14487643
Ringworld should be a furry

>>14488092
wtf the author's greyscale website photo makes him look black but the goodreads photo shows he's just a white bearded guy

Just finished book one of bakker, holy shit it was great, does it decline?

>>14488287
what book?

Thoughts on IHNMAIMS?

Is the Trysmoon books any decent? I was told there was cuckold elements in the book.

>>14488357
I was told there were mommy gf elements in them

>>14488341
darkness that comes before

>>14488376
I don't think so. I'm on book three and they're really been direct continuations of the same overall story so far.

>>14487643
I sincerely do not understand 4chan memes anymore

>>14488357
I recently had a brief convo with an anon about them and was told that it happens twice in the series. I read the first book to 40% then dropped it once I found that out.

>>14488424
Ill pass then. Just some things I cant stand.

Who are the best Sword and Sorcery authors? I've read Howard, Moorcock, Wagner, Leiber, and Vance.

Who are the best Sword and Sorcery authors? I've read Howard, Moorcock, Wagner, Leiber, and Vance.

>read lyonesse anon, jack vance is good!
>look it up
>book 1 of 4 of the lyonesse series which is volume 52 of this other thing
>multiple versions of the books
>look at reviews
>random stories omitted depending on the version

pass

>>14488586
it's just a trilogy you absolute mong

>>14488586
>volume 52 of this other thing
which is the collected works of Jack Vance

Should I read Tigana? Saw an anon many threads ago complaining about all the homosexual sex and pedophilia references and people getting cucked.

Is this book any good?

>>14488647
good action, weird choice of a framing story that takes you out of it until it really clicks into gear

>>14488672
Thanks

Riftwar has Riftwar cycle and Riftwar Saga, the two are related but separate correct?

>>14488689
cycle is just all his series combined

>>14488689
Cycle is the entire series, Saga is the first trilogy within that series

>>14488689
>>14488709
>>14488712
There are 30 books total and amazon calls half of them riftwar cycle or saga so just give up.

>>14488004
Mortu and Kyrus in the White City

>>14488726
>>14488586
are you the same poster or do we have multiple people unable to look up a series on wikipedia before trying to buy books?

>>14488741
Fuck off nigger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riftwar_Cycle#The_Riftwar_Universe

>>14488574
http://www.castaliahouse.com/the-man-who-saved-sword-and-sorcery-fiction/

>>14488586
You might genuinely be retarded.

>>14488764
Thanks for the recommendation.

I assume you gay bois like Dark Matter and Recursion?

>>14488813
Have you read Wagner's pastiche novels Conan: Road of Kings and Legion from the Shadows? If not you definitely should.

>>14488647
I would definitely recommend a read, I wouldn't call it great but I still remember it after fifteen years

>>14488833
I'll check them out, thanks.

>>14488764
>castaliahouse
>rabid puppies
>Vox Day
No.

>>14488869
>>>/lgbt/

>>14488398
There's nothing to understand anymore

>>14488869
Gemmell was a socialist tbf

>>14488586
Don't bother, it would clearly be wasted on a witling such as yourself

>>14488906
Was Gemmell associated with Rabid Puppies? I don't care either way, I'm just curious.

>>14488939
Gemmel died in 2006.
Sad Puppies was in 2013.
Rabid Puppies was in 2015.

>>14488965
What is this post saying then?>>14488869

>>14488357
It’s suffering fuel, but there’s light at the end of the tunnel, unlike Hobb’s brand of suffering.
>>14488287
Bakker is pretty solid, although the first book of the second trilogy has a bit of a pacing problem. It’s a good read though l.

>>14488981
Vox Day is the managing editor and founder of Castalia House. He also was the creator of the Rabid Puppies.

>>14488992
Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

>>14488992
it's why the recs on the sidepanel of that site are for absolute dogshit "be a real man" self-help books

>>14488981
He's a crybaby bitch leftard. It's best to ignore him.

>>14488992
I'm not on board the whole a-tranny-in-every-book forced diversity cancel culture, but I'd rather ice fish with my nuts as the lure than be championed by supreme faggot Vox Day

>>14489069
Anyone who uses "The Voice of God" as their name is bound to be insufferable.

>I am Vox Day, Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil, and you may Ask Me Anything
>posted to /r/thedonald promoting his book "Cuckservative: How 'Conservatives Betrayed America"
Nice

Goddam after reading Vorkosigan for so long I'd forgotten just how good Bujold is at introducing the reader to a world and its characters.
60 pages in and I have no idea what the main plot of the book is going to be and yet I'm utterly gripped by it.

>>14488939
>>14488965
>>14488869
>>14488992
>sad puppies
>rabid puppies
what
>>14489103
Chalion is great so far for me, an anon suggested it to me not that long ago. How is Vorkosigan?

When did this place become tumblr? Jesus Christ. Post an article about Gemmell and /outerlit/ comes streaming in crying about Vox fucking Day who didn't even write the article.

>>14489156
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

>>14486175
Was there ever a discussion about that book? I read it and I have incredibly mixed feelings.

>>14489195
There was a single post.

>>14489212
Probably the 3rd of 4th time I've read the monthly book and there hasn't been a discussion. I'm unsure if im missing out or if sffg is just incredibly unorganized.

>>14489233
The discussion thread lasted for 24 hours. Also, as per the dictates of Monthly Reading Anon of being allowed to discuss only in a single thread at the end of the month.

This worth reading? Apparently, the woke crowd hates the author because she wrote rape and underage fanfiction at some point so she sounds pretty based.

>>14489340
The woke crowds love it faggot dont lie. Its a shit book anyway. Anything that wins any award today or is a top list on NYT or amazon etc just plays to the lowest common denominator which makes it shit. Its lesbian space fantasy that doesnt take place in space. Its BS.

Looking for;

>High fantasy
>MC is evil but not edgy
>Doesn't even need to be an antihero just looking for a first person view of an evil character that is well characterized and interesting
>Daddy/mommy problems well dealt are a plus

Anyone?

https://www.amazon.com/Lazors-Awful-Empire-Nick-Zilic-ebook/dp/B07TFBD5MP

Friend wrote a pretty good book in my opinion, give it a chance if you'd like a more comical and satirical approach to sci-fi cliches. It's also a lot deeper than it first reads and looks.

And no, I didn't write it, I would just have said if I did.

>>14488672
Yeah here the framing feels strange since it's barely used. That changes later though.

What book has the most levels of framing?

>>14489423
>friend

Is "supernatural" a genre to itself? What makes something supernatural, as opposed to magical realism?

>>14489397
bakker

>>14489586
Checking already, thanks

>>14489156
Vorkosigan is like Chalion without magic and in space, Bujold has a very definite style.

>>14489069
the virgin hating vox day for being calling jemisin a savage and the chad hating vox day for trying and failing to manipulate amazon algorithms until his authors were all stuck in a recommendation ghetto and couldn't make any money

>>14489535
Don't try to make sense of book genres.
They are invented and coined on the fly and discarded as needed.

>>14489160
Castalia House blog was at one point one of the better SFF blogs out there, and was philosophically very much at odds with VD.

>>14489195
>>14489247
ancient monthly anon was better than the current ones

>>14489397
The Eyes of the Overworld. It's not first person but the way Vance writes you get a very clear sense for the thought processes of his characters

>>14489597
I hate him because he's a retard who can't shut up even when it would serve him better. Some of the people associated with him are okay, I don't know why they want anything to do with that egomaniac.

who invented the storyline?
>wormhole space travel or teleportation ends up opening a gate to a different dimension similar to hell instead
i know it's done on Doom the videogame, Even Horizon movie, Warhammer, maybe some other media? but not sure what was the first one

also some other examples of this plotline?

>>14489103
I read this recently too after seeing it mentioned here. It's great, but it's one of those books I don't want to read the sequel to, because it just seems like it's great as a stand-alone and doesn't really need anything more.

Bujold is also really good at slipping in subtle penis jokes I noticed.

>>14489639
I'm halfway through the sequel, which is also a stand-alone, and it's also great on its own and doesn't need anything more. Most of the characters from Curse are cameos except for the sword bros that took Cazaril to Ibra and the crazy mother.

tried making a dying earth chart. what do you guys think? im sure im missing a bunch of books

>>14489636
Hey buddy, there are nipples visible in that picture -- the advertisers aren't going to like that.

>>14489740
City at the End of Time, it's Greg Bear's love letter to Night Land and pulls a few elements from it unchanged.

>>14489852
it's just a gaping wound, don't worry

>>14489233
we're organizing in discord now

>>14489608
>ancient monthly anon was better than the current ones
fuck how many monthly anons have there been? also what did he do that you liked?

>>14489340
it's very good, the final act works so well

>>14487837
You've gotta be the threadslave. Nobody else talks this autistically

>>14489247
>Also, as per the dictates of Monthly Reading Anon of being allowed to discuss only in a single thread at the end of the month.
Why you lying? Or are you a speedlet who speed reads posts?
Monthly reading anon said you can discuss the books in multiple threads if you want, you just have to wait for the allotted day to "start" the discussion. You can't want to discuss a book on the 10th when the discussion is the 30th.

>>14489340
>>14489959
Hi rebbit

>>14489852
>advertisers
>"rules" on a work safe board are in place for the advertisers
Newfags really need to lurk for 2 years to understand how 4chan works.

>>14490077
It's a joke you fucking dingbat. Have you never heard anyone else say things like that? It's been a running joke since Hiromoot split the site; 4chan is associated with porn, so if the SFW boads are on a "different" site, then they get access to advertisers that had blacklisted 4chan.

>>14490077
>what is irony

>>14490086
It was also a joke about how the only thing nsfw about the picture was the nipples even though it's some fucked up gore shit.

>>14490014
Oh, that's much better, you only discuss it at the very end of the month and if you blink you'll miss it but you can have two threads.

>>14490149
How fucking stupid are you? If you start the discussion at the end of the month, you have the entire new month to discuss it. Not his fault you're too lazy to start the discussion yourself, and you wish to be handheld. You fags are the worst. You complain about something not happening, when you could do it yourself, but still won't do it and blame others for it not happening.... Why do I feel you're pol? You're blaming others for your laziness and shortcomings, and your reading comprehension and reasoning ability is abysmal.

>>14490194
>makes a bunch of confusing rules for how to do this fun thing
>blames everyone else for not navigating this volunteer bureaucracy
>why is nobody participating

>>14490194
>>14490285
stop arguing and join the new reading group w/o the monthly read legacy

>>14490302
>join the third /sffg/ discord attempt

>>14490302
>using discord
If I wanted a name I would have put on a trip.
Also I don't need a bunch of fags to come to a consensus on what I will read next. I read hundreds of books a year, don't need a bunch of readlets giving me pointers.

>>14490306
>third
It's more like the fifth or sixth

>>14490325
> Also I don't need a bunch of fags to come to a consensus on what I will read next
i was talking to the fags arguing about the old monthly reading, which you with your big brain obviously didn't join

>>14490333
well i don't know what happened to the others but we're coordinating with thread slave, see the OP which advertises our discord

Finished Book 2 of Mage Errant (Jewel of the Endless Erg). Had a good time with an easy read and enjoyed the story especially once it began picking up. Don't care so much for the obligatory MC-gets-into-a-relationship nor did I care much for one of the side characters being shoehorned into a gay relationship at the end. I'm hoping Book 3 gets a FUCKING EDITOR because this series has been full of so many sloppy mistakes that it is astounding. I also not looking forward to Book 3 as much considering it seems that it'll be full of politics.
I'll probably spend a little more time in Confessions of a Crap Artist before starting Book 3.

>>14489636
I think The Mist (1980) might be one of the earlier examples.

>>14490397
DO NOT read book 3. Do not. That shoehorned gay relationship is constantly brought up in the "see gays are people too!" sense, the awful teen romance is 80% of the book, and the author basically went off the deep end with orange man bad nonsense. It's awful.

>>14489636
that seems like a take on the monkey's paw, or an evil genie. people have always been scared of technology.

> we have this new invention/magic item!
> but it's cursed!

>>14490473
That bad, huh? I'll read it until I grow tired of it because I'd like to see where the plot goes (no spoilers please) but I'll never spend money on these books.
Not surprising the faggotry is endorsed considering the author is Jewish.

>>14490490
The plot doesn't go anywhere. The book is like 280 pages long and literally nothing happens in 250 of them (except constant references to how that one guy is gay, and that's okay!). There's nothing in it to spoil, the bad guy is the one who is very obviously the bad guy (you can tell because he's white, male, dresses entirely in red, and spouts ridiculous talking points about how humans are the superior race and building walls).

>>14489740
Super based and giga redpilled

>>14490306
There were way more than that

>>14488078
>the visitor from another plane wanted to help his descendants by killing their enemies.
This is so wrong. He explicitly stated that he was going to rule over everyone in the sacred valley, combining all clans under his rule.
She was not a threat to him.
He then went on to state that he only needed to take two hearts in order to pay for everyone's crimes. Yet, he doesn't count the two people he already killed.
So their deaths meant nothing to him.

Name me a better series published last decade.
I'll be waiting.

>>14490651
>he didn't read Red Rising

>>14489740
Not sure you should include Long Sun and Short Sun. At most they inherit dying earth themes from New Sun if you consider the Whorl as a symbol of Urth

What have been your most recent purchases, /sffg/? I got Awake in the Night Land now I have The Wizard and The Knight coming in next week.

>>14490651
I really wonder if you think that shilling Maas(ive) Ass' book will make it more likely that she will let you dive into those wet walls.

>>14491004
Is that her butt? Is she thicc?

>tfw you write an emotional scene but it just comes out as a re-iteration of a character's backstory, fails to incorporate new elements or emotional depth, and happens too soon in the narrative because there's nothing else to cram in at the moment

>>14486038
Eye catching but it lacks sex appeal.

>>14486815
It's kind of amateurish looking.
You know you made it when fans you know nothing about make top notch art based on your works.

>>14488004
Mandy.

>>14491520
Your images are very low quality as they rely entirely on the most vulgar sort of sexuality rather than a refined sort of elegant beauty.>>14491520

>>14490651
>last one published 2011

>>14491585
Seen it.

>>14491768
>every book follows the same pattern
>some of the worst descriptions of large scale warfare I have ever read

>>14491768
Does this have magic or is it pure battle tactics?

>>14487643
based Hitchhiker's

>>14490617
Nah he said he only had one day for them. I assume he had better stuff to do than playing with children.

>>14486815
>epub available on mobilism
based

>>14491836
What? You're mistaken. You must be thinking of another character. Members of the Li clan summon an older patriarch. The winged guy who claims that he's beyond gold, but takes the gold badge anyway. The Li clan conspirators thought he would benefit his own clan, but he says he's strong enough for all of them. He plans to rule them all, before what's-her-name comes in to stop him.

>>14487590
Time Machine and War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells. Probably also Island of Dr. Moreau, but haven't read that one yet.

>>14491867
I do love me some vivisection

>>14487590
The Count of Monte Cristo. If you haven't read it, you shouldn't be allowed to post in /lit/.

>>14491858
>The Gold waved him to silence. “In the face of absolute power, of what use is respect? This task is not worthy of more than one day of my time. I am here today, and so they will bow today.”
I assumed the task was destroying all opposition his descendants faced.

>>14491915
That's what I thought at first. And that's probably what the Li clan conspirators thought they were dealing with. But ultimately he planned on sparring everyone after taking only two hearts. But also, he gave any dissenters a chance to challenge him. So everyone divided into a kneeling group and an opposing group. He was about to kill all the opposers. While ruling the remaining.

>>14487157
desu i don't know, whatever you feel more interested about having feedback on. also, you know there often are Critique threads on this board, right? you might want to post it there too, there's one up right now

maybe a fight as you say, or the introduction of some secondary character if it has to be short?

>>14491742
my penis disagrees or doesn't care

>>14492229
You're thinking with the wrong head then.

>>14487082
>>14487660
As a long time kindle owner, my advice get kobo next time, they are just better in every way, I know new kindle support color tempereture but it took amazon ages to implement and it still looks better on kobo (at least to me)

what is it with zoomers not wanting to use a lamp?

>>14491742
Nigga what are you prattling on about?
That image is supposed to grab you by your hindbrain and make you want to pound that pussy (pun intended) by opening the thread.
It's supposed to be vulgar.
It's supposed to be crass.
It's supposed to appeal to the attention challenged posters here.
Those posters being socially inept losers with delusions of grandeur and brains addled from too much weird porn.

>>14489740
Good book choices, using the same font size and weight for title/author/blurb makes it difficult to read and the covers look like shit (probably because you're scaling them in paint)

If you're open to other suggestions I'd slap on pic related and possibly Nightfall by Asimov

>>14492296
It's just your vision that's deteriorating my fellow no-longer-young adult

>>14492350
Easy come easy go low quality posters are not preferable. Wanting to appeal to the lowest is wrong.

Another sffg with hardly any mention of sci fi, beautiful.

Anons I'm looking for military sci-fi books I've read the major ones like star ship troopers

Are any of the following good?
>the forever peace
>legion of the damned
>Cobra
>terms of enlistment
>the mercenary
Are there any others you'd recommend? Thanks in advance

>>14492565
Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
>inb4 jap anime trash
The books are good.

>>14492565
frontiers saga by ryk brown

>>14492565
Did you read Armor yet?

>>14486298

>>14492598
Yep. Enjoyed it immensely

>>14492645
Read Orphan.

>>14492645
Good taste. I'd suggest some Hammers Slammers if you want military sci-fi written by a guy who understands combat.

>>14492608
Was WFWIF actually good? I've thought about reading it a few times but the summary just seems so FernGully

>>14492672
Sounds like it has potential.

>>14492705
I've read one of Drakes other books, red liners. Was pretty good, will add this to my list

>>14492721
Start with the story called "rolling hot" as your intro to the Slammers series. It is imo the psychologically most intense of the ones I've read so far, almost on par with Armor.

>>14492350
>shoulders
>pecs
>man hands
>tranny angle shot
>tail up the ass
>dat chin
>veiny arms that could strangle you
That's a man.

>>14489740
You got the Simbillis and Nifft guy's name wrong

>>14487643
Isn't ringworld a trap.....

Am I supposed to be able to predict what is happening/going to happen in this book, or am I just a total brainlet for being confused as to what's going on. I'm on page ~160 so only about 40 pages to go and all I know is that some vague force threatens paul that will willingly bring his downfall. Is the prescience stuff actually well explained or am I just a brainlet? I felt like the book was secretly calling me a brainlet through stilgar when paul was pretty much treating him like a tard for not understand his power.

>>14492745
IIRC drake was in Vietnam, so I understand how he does it. Red liners was up there with armor for me

>>14492759
fucking hell ive been watching too much hockey
>>14492408
you're right ill try and change the font size on the titles and author

>>14492793
I haven't read Red Liners, but now I really want to. I liked Drakes RCN series (fairly light-hearted adventure novels) too, so I don't doubt it's good.

Incubus Inc 2 is Next month.
What else is new in the next 2 months?

>>14493169
>Incubus Inc 2
sounds like erotica, what is it

Iran just fired dozens of missiles into an American Air Force base in Iraq, its all over the news.

Give me books about war. Nuclear, world, etc. Give me war.

>>14493309
I try to avoid reading sensationalist propaganda. And watching it for that matter.

>>14486815
The cover just doesn't look appealing to me anon. I know not to judge a book by its cover and all that but that aside I have so much shit on my backlog that I can't really bother to check this out. Still congratulations for actually finishing a book and then putting it out there. The fact that you even have three reviews is a good sign as I've seen many self published books just fall into complete obscurity and nobody ever reads them.

>>14493369
I was assured by my artist that the cover would make people want to read it. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>14493379
For me it's the generic looking tin can man that ruins it

>>14493391
Generic? I guess. He's supposed to be a kid who is a little bit unformed, in the process of growing up. Look at his wacky "banded mail" tho - you can't get more unique than that. Also, isn't the tophat tuxedo man strange enough for you?

Finally got through God Emperor. I might need some more time to think, but coming off of it immediately I didn't really like it. Leto is kind of insufferable and a lot of the philosophy that makes up most of this book feels kind of half baked. I'll probably pick up Heretics at some point but I think I need a break from Dune for now.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>>14493458
>you can't get more unique than that.
It's lorica segmentata with the unique twist of not protecting a vital area

>>14486815
Well mate, congratulations are in order. I'll most likely buy a paperback edition shortly, but I have to ask if the book has preachy morals; I won't ask what your personal opinions on contemporary politics is as it's not relevant or my business but I'd like to know if I have to prepare myself for something I'll most likely find a tad annoying. Also, if I might ask, did you have everything planned out before writing or was it mostly "on the go"? Again, congrats and I hope you get some success off the book

Am I a brainlet for preferring the movie?

>>14493588
No, the movie is great.

>>14493594
Overall the movie was better, but I liked the books final conclusion more, where he takes Rita's place

>>14493379
This is where catgirls really shine

>>14493588
>>>/tv/
>>>/a/

>>14493548
>I'll most likely buy a paperback edition shortly
Thanks so much!

>but I have to ask if the book has preachy morals;
I would say no. I really tried to avoid this. I wrote the narrator to be purposefully somewhat biased towards a couple of the factions, but you also get to hear about all of the flaws of those factions. Regarding morality and "the right way to live," the book mostly asks questions rather than forcing answers down your throat. You decide.

>Also, if I might ask, did you have everything planned out before writing or was it mostly "on the go"?

I had a conception of the overall story, but large parts of this were still done in a "discovery writing" kind of way. Imagine a sprawling storyboard made beforehand but bits and pieces of connective tissue had to be dreamed up while I was writing. I think it all came together nicely after several rounds of editing.

>Again, congrats and I hope you get some success off the book
Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.

>>14487918
answer me you fucks

>>14493741
answer THIS
*unzips dick*

>>14493741
we've had this question like 3 times and it's never been answered outside of someone moaning about feminism so I don't think anyone itt has read it.

As I said before I'm wary of the author because her debut was basically a hit that was manufactured by the publisher planting stories about it in the press. So I'm gonna give it more time/impressions before I even consider reading it.

>>14493741
Don't be so whiny.
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=priory+of+the+orange+tree
Also ones with it was only a image and not the text.
The goodreads group has it as one person read it and rated it 3/5 stars. 3 have marked it as to-read and one didn't finish reading it.

>>14493741
>Samantha Shannon describes her novel as a "feminist retelling of Saint George and the Dragon"
Haven't read it so I'll reserve my final judgement but aside from the nice cover that's a poor first impression to make, at least for me when I just googled it

Just had this recommended to me. What am I in for?

>>14493846
You know the deathgame novels where they eventually spill out into proletarian revolution that were huge in YA last decade?
It's that but set in a larger mythology inspired science fantasy universe and for the most part written to a higher quality.

It's a really fun first read, the stuff that I don't like isn't that apparent until a reread and even if you don't like the sequels which lose the deathgame aspect it stands alone pretty well.

>>14493846
another dumb escapist power fantasy for 15 year olds

>>14493846
>modern scifi

>>14493486
Hey, I just finished it too.

The original is by far the best but I never really got bored or tired of it.

Dune > Dune Messiah > God Emperor > Children

>>14486815
>>14493729
What does it rate on the scale?

>>14494049
I think you mean
>actually reading instead of memeing

>>14494167
Have you considered reading the posts in the thread? You ought to try it.
>>14486872

>>14488287
It only gets better imo.

Some of the later parts of AE (second trilogy) can get preeetty purple in their prose, and of course.

Pendulous phallus.

>>14494182
I did. Someone bragging about how much coochie they got, while actually getting none doesn't answer shit.

>>14488287

>>14494208
That means there's no incest, no rape, and probably no one gay. 0/3.

>>14494216
I don't think you understand how much 12 talents was. That could have been anywhere from 900 to 1,320 pounds of gold.

>>14494236
>Hellenistic mercenaries were commonly paid one drachma for every day of service, which was a good salary in the post-Alexander (III) days. 6,000 drachma made a talent
6,000*12 = 72,000 days.
72,000/365 =197 years
Yeah, I don't think it's worth 197 years of pay either.

>>14494167
>>14494208
>>14494224
There is no rape. There will at least be some allusions to rape in book two. In this book I suppose there is some talk of what happens to people in the Imperium when they commit rape.

No one is obviously gay and there are no gay scenes in the book. Actually, I guess there is one rather outlandish character that says some fairly gay shit. He appears for one, maybe two paragraphs. I don't want to spoil too much but this is definitely not your usual "here's my token gay character" thing that so much media does these days. I don't like this kind of thing, I think it's boring, preachy, and tiresome. I guess one of my readers thought that one of the main characters was gay, but there's no real evidence given for this as far as I can tell.

There is no incest. I may or may not have some big plans on this front in book 2, but I am going to have to verify that Amazon won't fuck me over for putting that kind of content in a book.

Because this first book is - to some degree - a coming of age tale for the main character, sexuality isn't a huge component of the book. He's an awkward, idealistic kid. He gets boners, he lusts after girls, but he's goodhearted and naive. He's not a "nice guy" or anything but he's stereotypically unsure of himself around girls, doesn't really know what he's supposed to say, and is basically too busy to be fucking around with chicks anyway. That, and if I show sex scenes in my books I'm sort of afraid Amazon will mark my stuff as 18+ and nuke my sales. I may get more brave in book 2. I would like to, anyway.

I appreciate the questions and interest, btw. Thank you.

>>14493846
just checked out goodreads reviews this one is near the top

how to get published and be a successful writer
>be hot
>copy hunger games
questions incels?

I really wish I could forget the ending of this one so it's a surprise when I read it again. Not the best place to start in the Culture series, but definitely highlights the more manipulative and intrusive methods of the Culture in its methodical plot to turn the galaxy into a multicultural hedonist utopia of transhumans ruled by AI in a saccharine dictatorship.

>>14486334
shut the fuck up anime faggot. back to /a/ with you

>>14486334
Let me help you.

>Me: This pizza isn't very good
>Him: Well it's pizza hut

What he you heard you say: The bad pizza I ordered from the bad pizza place is bad.
What he meant: Well, why would you expect otherwise?

You: I'm unhappy with the grind in this game I knew was going to be grindy.
Him: Well, why would you expect otherwise?

You: This character is so frustrating
Him: The character was designed to frustrate you.

Also, none of your examples are odd or noteworthy.

>>14494382
We are all one board here. 4channelers unite!

>>14492758
N I C E

>>14494377
What's the best Culture book to start with? I tried reading Consider Phlebas but couldn't get into it

>>14494320
damn, she's not lying

>>14494418
IN MY OPINION it would be Player of Games and if you feel really bold, Matter is a very good perspective to be introduced to the Culture and have them still be somewhat mysterious. But you gotta read Consider Phlebas to get the real perspective of an enemy of the Culture. Player of Games might make that more digestable by giving a frame for the idiran war. Learn of it, then experience it.

/sffg/, do you ever wish you could get away with blatant magical realm?

I've got two scenes in my story, but they're used for character development so I think they're clear

>>14486504
Ubik if you've not already read it.

any good portal fantasy? no wizard knight obviously

new thread in a bit

NEW THREAD
>>14494824
NEW THREAD

>>14494320
He a chad

>>14486504
Transmigration of Timothy Archer