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Monolingual pleb here thinking of learning a second language this year to read some quality lit.

Which language is rewarding to learn and has the best literature, particularly poetry?

>> No.14486425

>>14486355
Ancient Greek.

>> No.14486462

Hard mode:
Russian but it's hard as fuck.

Easy mode:
French is quick to learn and you don't need to learn that many words to be fluent in it and is breaddy good. Great for picking up basic bitch arthoes.

God mode:
Ancient Greek and Latin, read the classics of western civilization in the manner they were intended to be read... but it's going to be veeeeery difficult. Great for picking up sophisticated arthoes.

Shit mode:
Chinese, very difficult just to learn the language of ants. Gets you NO pussy.

>> No.14486488

German.

I know french and portuguese, and now I'm learning german since it's the most /lit/ language.

>> No.14486505

Honestly learn French

Borges said that you could put every literature on a man, for instance: English - Shakespeare, Spanish -Cervantes, Italian - Dante, etc. However, French literature is the exception, for there are many great authors.

>> No.14486513

>>14486355
Greek, Latin, Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian. Basically Romance and Hellenic languages. Slavic languages are garbage for literature (yes, including Russian, disgusting peasant tongue for dysgenic hapa freaks). Germanic languages suck too, but are better than Slavic ones generally. German is worth a learn but not for creative literature, more for scholarship/philosophy.

>> No.14486688

>>14486505
Who would be the man representing the German literature then?

>> No.14486700

>>14486688
If English takes Shakespeare then Goethe for German

>> No.14486705

>>14486688
Adolf Hitler

>> No.14486818

I want to either learn Hebrew because I could actually speak it with my friend's family and him or Finnish just for fun. I think the former would be smarter since I would actually be able to practise and get feedback. I do know one Finn but he just speaks English.

>> No.14486836

>>14486818
If your friend is a jew he isn't your friend. He'd murder you in cold blood if he needed to and wouldn't feel a nanosecond of remorse.

>> No.14486845

>>14486836
oh my gosh, so true i was gonna say the sameple thing

>> No.14486922

>>14486836
>>14486845
I don't care. He'd be a better friend if he murdered me instead of allowing my prolonged suffering.

>> No.14486936

>>14486922
this is so symbolic of evropuh, wow

>> No.14486958

>>14486845
>>14486836
>rent free
take responsibility for your life and stop blaming others.

>> No.14486983

>>14486818
go with Hebrew. If you're a somewhat decent person and at all capable of critical thinking, it'll turn you into an antisemite.

>> No.14487125

>>14486958
post nose

>> No.14487806

Nahuatl

>> No.14487986

Spanish. I love reading Borges and I’m not even great at Spanish

>> No.14488429

>>14486688
Goethe

>> No.14488486

>>14486355
>particularly poetry
Since you mentioned Poetry, I recommend Persian. It's an extremely poetic language with 10 centuries of poetic tradition and many many great poets.

>> No.14488497

>>14488486
General salami got his just desserts and all of the sudden every liberal wants to worship those camel jockeys.

>> No.14488512

>>14488497
Not liberal. I have studied the language and its great poetry. What I said is based on personal experience and not just another political fad. This is the place we discuss and appreciate the Arts. Fuck off with your politics elsewhere.

>> No.14488521

>>14486355
Italian is the most /lit/ living language

>> No.14488605

>>14486355
>>14488521

Someone made a great point in another thread that, if you're learning a language to engage with its literature, you should consider its untranslated/untranslatable tradition. Apparently Italian is great and very underrated in this regard. That's what that poster said anyway.

You really can't go wrong with French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, or German. Keep in mind that German is considerably harder to learn than romance languages, and Russian is even harder than German.

If you're into philosophy then it must be German. They also have a long history of dealing with classical lit so some of the best stuff about the classics are actually in german.

>A big reason why this happened is the inadequacy of Anglo scholarship in this area. Around 1900 nearly ALL the scholarship of any note was in German, and if you were a scholar at Oxford you generally had to work in German if you studied anything Greek.

>The Germans in the 19th Century considered themselves spiritual and maybe even physical descendants of the Hellenes. Before German unity, the Hellenic ideal was felt even to be reflected in the political arrangement of the German states, and of every aspect of the culture

>Anglo-American scholarship generally had nothing to add, and I believe 19th c German philology is still unmatched in its erudition, insights, methods and science of study of texts. This died out for a number of reasons and after 1950 there was nothing to replace it in America

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>>14486958
Not an argument.

>> No.14488625

>>14486462
Wait, can one actually use Latin skills to score pussy?

>> No.14488628

>>14488625
Hahahaha. No.

>> No.14488631

>>14488628
Ah well fuck it then, what's the use of a language if I can't use it to bang whores

>> No.14488640

>>14488625
gets you high end private school pussy

>> No.14488641

>>14488631
You are correct. For this very reason, I would suggest learning Ebonics. It works without exception.

>> No.14488645

>>14488641
I wanna fuck human whores

>> No.14488671
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14488671

I'm learning German, it's good for it's very standardized structuring/rules just like it's people.
It's similar to English, but it has cases and 3 types of articles, masc/fem/neutral, that can be hard to get straight as adjectives and articles take different endings depending on the case.
People say it's rough and guttural but when you actually learn it it's not too different from English, just a bit more throaty. That said, you'll never get the accent right. I can never say the more hack-y sounds right, like in Milch.

Positive: fags cant really de-gender the language because if you did then nobody would know what anybody is talking about given that you can put elements of a sentence in different order depending on what you want to emphasize. It would be like the they/them confusion but with every noun.

>> No.14488673

>>14488605
>German is considerably harder to learn than romance languages
The articles that are gendered and sensitive to case structure, generally lacking in dragging a noun for direct use as a verb without modification, more fully formed subjunctive mood - what else?

>> No.14488697

>>14488625
Try reading Ovid on The Art of Love, bucko

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>>14488671
>hack-y sounds right, like in Milch
I typically do not hear the sound that you are referencing pronounced in your example. I usually hear a wide variance in pronunciation of "ch" across the vocabulary of even a single person, with many words getting a simple "sh" sound. Of course, some words demand specific articulation or they accidentally become different words, such as "Nacht" and "nackt".

>> No.14488951

>>14488673
I would say mostly it has to do with the cases

>> No.14488958

>>14486505
That's not what he said.

>> No.14489026

>>14488625
Maybe some possessed pussy

>> No.14489043

>>14486462
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords

>> No.14489068

>>14486462
>French is quick to learn and you don't need to learn that many words to be fluent in it and is breaddy good. Great for picking up basic bitch arthoes.
The pronunciation is way too hard to be picking up any art hoes. You're gonna sound like an american retard larping for like 8 years until you start to get the accent

>> No.14489168

>>14489068
It's honestly not that difficult. You just have to watch a lot of Frenchmen talking...

>> No.14489302

>>14486355
French, German, Persian, and Chinese. Discard the rest.

>> No.14489323

>>14486462
>Basic bitch arthoes
>Sophisticated arthoes
>Gets you no pussy

What an embarrassing post, you sound like a 12 year old

>> No.14489332

>>14489323
You must not get any art hoes

>> No.14489698

flip a coin between french and german. there is no lose side.

>> No.14489710

>>14486355
latin, italian, ancient greek, german, japanese

>> No.14489994

>>14486355
OP, how old are you? Just curious

>> No.14490492

Thinking of learning Russian. Seems like the best compromise between pussy and literature.
I already speak German, French and English. Latin is too autistic.
How difficult is it going to be?

>> No.14490555

>>14488671
don't assume they can't degender it, look at how Dutch became Afrikaans

>> No.14490575

>>14488625
Guck yah! Go to some remote catholic village and spit some sick truths of God and you will be flooded by the faithful. Of course, as a truthful priest of the faith, you will only form platonic relationships and be content with wholesome headpats.

>> No.14490593

>>14488671
>>14490555

They're doing incredibly retarded shit like adding *innen to "male "words to make them include both genders (in reality the generic masculinum includes females already, but feminists are too braindead). Yes the * is part of the word, like: Bürger*innen. You're supposed to pronounce it with a pause. They're raping the language for their little power kick, and it's slowly becoming endorsed by the state even though no normal person ever uses it.

>> No.14490596

>>14486355
Matters for intent. If historic, I would personally recommend Latin since it was a common literary language from late antiquity to the early modern. Therefor, you can get a wide breadth of sources like Cicero and Virgil to more contemporary ones like Newton or Kant. In addition, the secound hand Greek translations into Latin are usually some of the best.