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FUCK YOU /LIT/ AND FUCK YOU GUENONFAG YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND MY REPUTATION AT MY UNIVERSITY

>be me
>blah blah somehow i end up a /lit/izen during college
>get meme'd into reading guenon
>was pretty impressed with his stuff
>one day i stick around to chat with my favorite professor
>dude is the head of the phil department and has read literally the entire canon, knows several languages, mathematical genius, even has beautiful body because he works out daily
>"so what have you been reading?"
>"oh i've been reading this french philosopher named rené guénon"
>"never heard of him"
>he proceeds to google guenon
>pulls up his wikipedia
>"he's got this weird muslim name"
>i start to get read as i realize i made a mistake
>"oh yeah... he converted to islam near the end of his life and moved to egypt too"
>"oh..."
>he proceeds to read out the names of his books
>i realize how pretentious the names sound when my prof reads them out loud
>"introduction to the study of the hindu doctrine..."
>i try to explain some of the ideas in his guenon's books but start fumbling my words
>"so the idea is that... all the major religious traditions share some fundamental truths about metaphysics..."
>prof starts to realize i can't explain guenon's ideas too well
>"have you read all this stuff?"
>"n- no i've just read two of his books so far...."
>"oh.... well good luck, anon"
>shuffles me out of his office
>hear him snickering with his low, masculine bass voice as i walk down the hall in shame

what have i done :(( THIS IS YOUR FAULT LIT YOU STUPID RETARDS GUENON IS A FUCKING MEME AND ANY SERIOUS ACADEMIC PHILOSOPHER WILL LAUGH AT YOU IF YOU TALK ABOUT HIM WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME

saddest part is that this professor has read a lot of stuff considered taboo by modern academia such as spengler, weininger, etc. :( i thought i could talk about guenon but no.... you faggots did this :( my life is over

>> No.14437356

>didn't read Guenon
>made to look like a fool because you name-dropped someone whose ideas you barely knew

If only you had read Guenon's whole oveure you could have explained to him how Guenon solved metaphysics and ended western philosophy, it's a shame really but you have only yourself to blame

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>>14437356
>solved metaphysics and ended western philosophy
how can a single man be so based?

>> No.14437396

>>14437356
>If only you had read Guenon's whole oveure you could have explained to him how Guenon solved metaphysics and ended western philosophy
lol shut up

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>>14437315
Guénonfag is a Brit

>> No.14437425

>>14437396
Guenon was smarter then virtually every poster ever on /lit/, was a auto-didact genius, phenomenal with languages, knew his western philosophy extremely well not to mention esoteric primordial metaphysics. If you even for a moment make the mistake of thinking there is anything that one could possibly critique him for it's only because you didn't read or understand him. Guenon is the most important European writer in the entire 300 years of the 18th-21st centuries, you're talking about a literal God. Fucking pseud

>> No.14437430

>>14437418
both of those people are butthurt buddhists, the second didn't realize the first was posting a troll thread

>> No.14437431

>>14437315
T’was just a meme bro

Also you sound like an utter beta

>> No.14437440

>>14437315
Guenon is a meme but it's not his fault you're a pleb who can't even provide a coherent summary of something you read, much less engage in actual philosophical discourse.

>> No.14437443

>>14437431
Ok, Guenonfag.

>> No.14437444

>>/pol/237538635

>> No.14437445
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*ends western philosophy*

>> No.14437448

>>14437425
Not hard to be smarter than /lit/

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14437450

>>14437425
This.
>>14437418
And you're that pathetic Canadian who was defending this worthless, aggressive, violent, piece of shit.

>> No.14437451

>>14437444
>>>/pol/237538635

>> No.14437484

>>14437315
If you don’t even understand his retroactive refutation of Whitehead with Parmenides why would you pretend to have read guenon, you could have just said “yeah I don’t know too much about him”

>> No.14437588

>>14437315
Hahaha wait till you mention Taleb to your professors. They love him!

>> No.14437743

>>14437440
>Guenon is a meme
see >>14437425

>> No.14437746

reminder these abominacions are durrcord fags who read hegel once hahahahh

>> No.14437770

>>14437315
what does you being a pseud have to do with guenon? this story is basically about you associating yourself with someone you have barely read and dont understand

>> No.14437790

>>14437315
this is dumb and obviously bait
OP said he's "reading him"
just because you're reading him doesn't mean you understand each and every single one of his ideas.
just say "oh i just started, and he's pretty interesting"
that's it.
retard

>> No.14437895

>>14437315
He asked what you were reading and you told him, you didn't do anything wrong. Your 'tism either got the best of you or he was being a dick.

Is your professor into classical metaphysics? If so he might be receptive.

>> No.14437997

>>14437315
Your mistake was not reading Whitehead, who preemptively refuted Guenon.

>> No.14438006

>>14437997
His preemptive refutation was retroactively refuted by Guenon’s entering a time loop

>> No.14438023

>>14437315
>be dumb
>"DAMN YOU GUENONFAG!!!!!!!!"
Retvrn to basedddit

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>>14437315
didn't even read but put me in the screencap if this was funny

>> No.14438338

>>14438023
Lmao this

>> No.14438867

>>14437315
>Caring about what an university teacher thinks of you

End yourself.

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>>14437418
That seems to be a Hindu nationalist, not Guenonfag.

Guenonfag definitely lives in either France or the UK though. Probably France, since he sometimes quotes Guenon in French, and I don't see him learning a language. He certainly doesn't know Sanskrit.

>> No.14439079

>>14437315
Your interactions with your Professor sound like the intro to a homoerotic Michael Bay film.

>> No.14439110

>>14439061
Lol, Guenonfag is in Sweden.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/shankara%20pdf/

Go fucking figure.

>> No.14439119

>>14439079
what other kind of Micheal Bay film is there?

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14439205

>>14439110
holy hell
Like a typical swede, he has a racemixing fetish
wew fucking lad

>> No.14439221

>>14439110
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/shankara%7Cguenon/country/se/

Man, this is a goldmine. You can find hundreds of Guenonfag's posts, and from them you can search the images he's posted and find hundreds more of his posts.

>>14439205
Yeah a LOT of Guenonfag's threads in this thing are him obsessing over Aryan genetics and Dravidians. Very similar to most Hindu nationalist, expat, wannabe Brahmins I've met online, obsessed with how they are the "white" Indians.

>> No.14439245

>>14439110
Guenonfag here, that's not me but one of my anonymous internet friends whom I nevertheless usually recognize and whom I got into Shankara after recommending that he read Shankara's gita commentary which he did.

>> No.14439252

>>14439245
that's a fucking cringey friend that you have then.
do you think he might be into this whole Indian philosophy thing because he fetishizes brown girls?
seems like that might be the case to me

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>>14439245
Yeah it's totally not you, he just posts with the same filenames you use on /lit/, the same obnoxious mannerisms ("OH NO NO NO"), the same misspellings and engrishisms.

Can't believe you're in Sweden. I knew it was somewhere in west/central Europe because you're always ruining the board at hours too early/late for a North American.

>> No.14439285

>>14439258
>obsessing over a faggot
Have sex

>> No.14439298

>>14439245
Ask your friend why embracing non dualism would be good for Europe

>> No.14439301

>>14439252
>do you think he might be into this whole Indian philosophy thing because he fetishizes brown girls?
For me it was because of Guenon but I commend him on his patrician taste
>>14439258
If you search those archived posts you'll find that 1) he's posted the "Madhva claimed Shankara promotes monism because he was so stupid he could only count to one" line and that 2) he also writes favorably of Buddhism in his posts and sometimes equates it as being on the same level as Advaita. As you should well know by now after interacting with me in so many threads, I would never dare to so frivolously disrespect the great Sri Shankaracharya (pbuh) as he does, and I am also a vociferous critic of Buddism and don't consider it to be anywhere as near as good as Advaita execpt for a few small anomalous Mahayana/Vajrayana schools which are practically crypto-Advaita anyways and even then it's an open question of whether they are as good as Advaita. From those points alone it should be clear that based Swedish-Advaitabro is not me, despite our shared appreciation for the great Sri Shankaracharya (pbuh)

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>>14439301
Yeah, there are definitely a few posts throughout the history of /pol/ from Swedish IPs that don't match your style. But you've also been known to samefag and strawman just so you can respond to "detractors" with an epic rebuke, so it's not exactly conclusive.

As a counterpoint, see pic related. Someone with a Swedish flag posting in /int/ generals, multiple times, bragging about trolling /lit/ by posting Rene Guenon spam threads.

This is fun.

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>>14439388
impressive detective skills
he also appears to have an interest in "girlcock"
very trad, very cool, very coom

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14439418

Pic related for more proof it's him. Exact same writing style, same use of forced memes.

>>14439412
In another post he says he's an "autistic permavirgin"

>> No.14439445

>>14439301
I mean
liking brown girls is fine my man, but your friend has to ask himself if he isn't just being a slave to his sexual fantasies, and using his delusion of being a Vedic brahmin or whatever to fulfill some sexual colonization fetish.
It doesn't seem like a good route to fulfillment to me, but I guess, who am I to judge?

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14439485

So now that we know Guenonfag loves "girlcock," how do we move forward as a board?

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>>14439388
>>14439412
>>14439418

The joke is on you schizofag. First you thought I was the Mexican feminist Seguro, then you thought I was the Swedish troll. You've accused me of being a brown-skinned person countless times.

But alas, I was a white American all along

>> No.14439501

guenonfag has single-handedly ruined eastern philosophy for me

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>>14439496
I never thought you were the Seguro guy, I always said the timezones don't make sense.

You're not white. Here's a picture of you reading the Eddas next to the Upanishads and a hamburger to irritate Hindutvas, in one of the threads where you were sperging about Dravidian racial statistics.

>>14439501
Dude, he's either a Swede whose brain is so broken he LARPed himself into being a "girlcock"-appreciating Kali Yuga-anticipating traditionalist, or he's an Indian immigrant living in Sweden who has been posting ABOUT the Upanishads since at least 2015 without ever reading them. In one of the posts from this past year, he says he's "finally going to read the full commentary" of Shankara. The guy barely reads the stuff he shitposts about. Don't let him ruin it for you.

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>>14439501
Guénonposter is an anthropomorphization of the pleb-filter principle. He scares away certain people and attracts others to the truth. Even if he is severely brain-damaged and schizophrenic (i.e. experiencing the non-duality of sane/insane), you have to look past that.

>> No.14439583

Welp, very likely just found Guenonfag's pictures in the /pol/ archive. Not linking.

Damn dude, did being mixed race in Sweden really fuck you up that badly? You actually have pretty chad tier facial genetics, nice jawline. You need to relax, if that's what spurred you to become such a crazy person.

>> No.14439640

>>14439583
Further confirming it's probably him, posts with the same filenames. I am not into faggoty "doxx culture" so I won't be an asshole about it.

You seem to really love Sweden. This has humanized you a bit for me. It's strange to think that behind your horrible shitposting there is a normal guy who is even capable of being nice.

>> No.14439648

>>14437315
>head of the phil department and has read literally the entire canon, knows several languages, mathematical genius
your professor is Guénon?????????

>> No.14439731

>>14439640
Share a photo of his face, I'm curious

>> No.14439761

>/pol/ drama
Get. fucking. back. to. your. board.

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14439788

>>14437315
I'm sorry you got let down by your mancrush

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>> No.14439812

>>14439583
Post her anon. The Guénonian world deserves to know.

>> No.14439825

>>14437315
Well, you go with the virgin Guenon, you gotta expect this sorta thing.

>> No.14439877
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14439877

Yes, I read Guenon, how could you tell?

>> No.14440305

bump

>> No.14440487

>>14437425
You're thinking about leibiniz

>> No.14440536

>>14439877
From the smell

>> No.14440556

>>14439877
Just awful shoop. Kill yourself.

>> No.14440570

>>14440556
It's a meme chillax bro :)

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>>14437362
>solved metaphysics and ended western philosophy
It's simple: assume that the entire field of one's experience is a field of creative evolutionary activity. Then the entire world comes alive as an ecosystem of organic events that one can interact with as such, and pretty soon you're actually *doing metaphysics* instead of merely speculating about it.

>> No.14440847

Remember fellow Initiates, around Hylics, never relax.

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>>14440487
Guénon-sama (pbuh) retroactively refutes leibniz in East & West in the "Superstition of Science" chapter. Read the part where he makes fun of leibniz for misunderstanding ancient Chinese symbolism and reducing it to binary arithmetic while thinking that he's an enlightened Westerner who just fully understands the system better than the chinks themselves.
>>14440675
>entire field of one's experience is a field of creative evolutionary activity
Retroactively refuted by Shaykh Guénon (pbuh) himself in literally any of his writings.

>> No.14441309

>>14437425
>tfw match all of those traits except for full knowledge of the Western canon
Should I even bother learning it now that it has been decimated by Guénon for quite some decades?

>> No.14441357

>>14439812
>>14439731
It's not that hard to find. He's half Brazilian, father was a Swede who impregnated a Brazilian mulatta. He looks like an Arab/Iranian, and often gets mistaken for one. Seems quite troubled over his mixed race identity. Lost a lot of weight in recent years, so good for you Guenonfag.

I don't want to post the pics because I feel like a dick, honestly was only trying to find him making an ass of himself in the archives, not anything personal.

>> No.14441374

>>14441357
>He looks like an Arab/Iranian, and often gets mistaken for one.
Is that supposed to be an issue? he should just learn Arabic and convert to Islam for the cute underage arab cunnny lol

>> No.14441396

>>14437315
What are you, 110 iq?

>> No.14442050

>>14441396
what is the minimum IQ necessary to fully grasp guenonic thought?

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14442231

Fucking hell, finally found a Guenonfag thread where he admits to being a Swede. Took a while.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7706053/#7706174

>As a chad Swede

So, the Swedish /pol/ and /int/ guenonfag is definitely the Guenonfag. Which makes it very likely that the pictures of the half-Brazilian/half-Swedish guy are him.

>> No.14442324

>>14442231
Looks like he was big into Varg and neopaganism before he got into Guenon, in about 2016-2017. Seems to have discovered Guenon through Varg and Survivethejive.

Jesus, it really is scary how often Guenonfag does the "My dear sir, how do I begin with reading the Upanishads?" and then responding to himself think. He's been doing it for fucking AGES on both /his/ and /lit/, there are literally dozens upon dozens of examples of it.

>> No.14442415

>>14442324
>>14439221
archetypally cringe. didn't even know if 'guenonfag' was a real person or just a meme to refer to all guenon posters.
>>14439496
>white
im not even white myself and it's clear you arent either. just look at the finger-nail region
>past as varg idolater
>mixed larping as white
>larping as trad

dude you are just way too counter-initiatic to say the least. please refrain from posting

>> No.14442474

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1421280975523.jpg

>> No.14442485

>>14437356
>Im gonna read gueanon to see if this is true
Yet another litizens life is about to be ruined

>> No.14442490

I have never read Guenon and I never will. I know nothing of his ideas. But I click on these threads anyway because they're always hilarious.

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>>14439485
is a there a single Evropean pagan LARPer who is not interested in delicious girlcock?

>> No.14442521
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14442521

Where can I find a guidebook for readign these threads? Some posts here appear to be utterly meaningless on the surface level, but people seem to respond to each other in somewhat coherent ways. How do I into Guenonic 4channel esotericism?

>> No.14442538

>>14442521
Right here, friend. Start with these short commentaries. Don't thank me.

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-Vol-1.pdf
https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-vol2.pdf

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>>14437445
>*reunites western philosophy with eastern philosophy*

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>>14442231
What drives someone to act like this? I know that /lit/ is full of people that have read a one book, and they spam about that. But this is some strange subtype of autism.
>>14442503
Is there any religion that isn't interested about that?

>> No.14442584

>>14442521
I'm in the thick of it and the lore keeps getting deeper even for me.

>swedish advaita poster is definitely guenonfag
>there is also a half-brazilian postal worker living in sweden with a chinese stepmom who is being forced to learn chinese and who self-identifies as a virgin (he is about 26-27)
>posting style and filenames of this second (brazilian) swede are very similar to guenonfag's
>both the swedish guenonfag and the second (brazilian) swede are big into varg/neopaganism, use similar mannerisms
>the second (brazilian) swede posted his 23andme DNA test once (he was 36% african)

Even if we can't identify the second Swede as Guenonfag, we at least know that Guenonfag loves "girlcock" and he has a breeder fetish.

As for the Guenonfag saga, I just spent more time than I care to admit over coffee exploring his backstory in the /his/ and /lit/ archives:
>apparently the history of "Traditionalist General" threads didn't begin on /lit/, it began on /his/
>his style is to post a giant link dump and then samefag himself shamelessly ("Hello friends, would someone please recommend an Upanishads commentary to me? :^)" "Why yes, here you are young man!" "Thank you so much my dear friend! I'll begin reading it immediately!")
>notorious for being vicious, combative, and cunty
>does this routine so much on /his/ (in 2017ish?) that his threads started getting deleted by mods
>he seems to have moved the threads to /lit/ at this point
>his threads started getting deleted on /lit/ as well, fairly quickly
>he renames them to "Eastern Thought" threads instead, but it's just the same shit
>people on both /his/ and /lit/ get annoyed that he acts like an insane antagonistic weirdo and shamelessly samefags (you can still see numerous attempts to explain to him exactly why he is disliked)
>at some point in 2018 he earns the name "guenonfag" for his efforts, as people need a way of referring to his persistent spamming
>he clearly doesn't like this; there are rather earnest posts by him in the archives bemoaning a conspiracy of "antiguenon" and "antitraditionalist" posters who are simply persecuting him for no reason (note: although he always refers to himself in third person and acts like he is many people, it is always clearly him, which is part of what annoys other posters so much)
>around summer of 2019, he begins flooding /lit/ hardcore (/his/ appears to have a more active janitor?)
>this is the first (?) major guenon spam wave, lasts a couple days
>he cools off for a while (maybe banned)
>starts spamming again in september/november
>the hate for him increases again because he has ruined tradposting on both /his/ and /lit/
>responds by doubling down on his shitposting again, and outright flooding the board for several days straight, over christmas
>likely gets some of his IPs banned
>a few days pass
>now he's back at it again, posting "What does Guenon think of flossing?" threads

No one can question my autism.

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14442600

Reminder that Guenonfag slipped up and accidentally revealed himself to be a western hindu (pic related)

>algerian swede larping as a french hindu
LMAO

>> No.14442628

>>14442600
w8 how is he a swede? it seems like guenonfag is in here and he's trying to muddy the investigation. He thinks he pull a fast one on us lol.

>> No.14442661

will he ever recover after this? seems to be literally a coomer fetishist based on 1434543844753.gif if thats really him

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>>14442628
Not the poster you're replying to, but if anything is certain, it's that Guenonfag posts from a Swedish IP and has been doing so for years. So it's not just a convenient proxy. What his race actually is, who fucking knows.

In some of his non-Guenon posting on other boards, he's actually surprisingly pleasant sometimes. It's weird seeing him be something other than a raving lunatic pretending to be six people at once.

>>14442661
please tell me this is not him, are you sure you got the filename from a thread that was definitely him

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14442672

To be honest, I still do not fully believe in the existence of a single non-divisible entity known as Guénonfag.

>> No.14442674

Jesus some shocking discoveries in this thread.
I think I prefer antiguenonfag now that guenonfag came out as a mutt swede larper.

>> No.14442686

>>14442672
>>14442674
guenonfag is one. there is no guenonposter worthy of worship except guenonfag.

>> No.14442691

>>14442584
Since someone's gonna find it anyway, post his face

>> No.14442706

>>14437315
>embarrassed
>life is over
probably not

>> No.14442710

>>14442669
i'm on it doc. it was this anon who linked the poster for some reasons im trying to uncover >>14439205and there was >>14439412
poster of 1434543844753.gif is the same as 1433160813355.gif under many ids, one being ZoHiiPo1. but this swede larps as 100% nordic phenotype

>> No.14442712

>>14442584
>What does Guenon think of flossing?
That's actually an interesting question. What does he think of flossing?

>> No.14442766
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>>14442669
nvm it's him. these pics are all posted by the same swede

>> No.14442796

>>14437315

Ok anon, here's what you do. Pass it off as a phase. First, get way more into the memefag guy, like talk about it all the time. Do that for a couple of weeks then switch to another person. You can keep the cycle going or simmer down from there. Phases is normal for undergraduates.

>> No.14442808

>>14437356
Explain

>> No.14442824

>>14442584
It's all great anon but you're skipping something: a lot of us haven't read a word of Guénon and spam him anyway. I did that before this christmas very autistically, even though I have no idea what Guénon is about. And I'm sure a lot of people did the same. So maybe Guénonfag just did one post or something like that, and the rest followed

>> No.14442833

WILL YOU FAGGOTS STOP WITH THE AUTISTIC POIROT RAMBLINGS AND POST HIS FUCKING PICTURE BY GOD

>> No.14442850

>>14442824
ok guenonfag

>> No.14442857

>>14442833
I regret finding it (it was on /fit/), and I don't want to post it. I can't even be sure it's him, like I said. I just wanted to laugh at Guenonfag for saying that he wants to eat tranny cum, not involve the real human being behind the shitposting. Guenonfag please accept my personal apology for going too far, if you are indeed the Brazilianbro. I may hate your shitposting, but you seem like a nice thoughtful lad and I wish you well in life.

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>>14442850
I'm not guenonfag.

>> No.14442862

>>14442860
comfy

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>>14442572
>buddha
retroactively refuted by Shankara

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>>14442881
>Shankara
aka crypto-Buddhist LARPer

>> No.14442954

>>14442581
4chan is a relatively small website with no barrier to entry, so if you are dedicated enough you can force changes in the culture through persistent spamming. All you need is your topic, template, a few canned replies and proxies. People will bitch about the spam but then the spam takes on a life of its own when one or two people become interested or join in for the troll simply because they see how much it enrages other son the board.

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>>14442892

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>>14443006

>> No.14443039

>>14442954
>but then the spam takes on a life of its own when one or two people become interested or join in for the troll simply because they see how much it enrages other son the board.
You clearly haven't been here long enough, forced 4chan memes almost never get through the internet cycle or have any lasting effect outside the mind of the anon who started it. That's why they're 'forced', no amount of spamming will propagate it.

>> No.14443065

>>14443039
I have been here too long. I remember Millhouse is not a meme meme, the prototype forced meme. Just because it is forced doesn't mean it isn't influential, don't buy in to the 4chan narcissism about being some bastion of organic internet culture. This place is rolls over on its belly for psyops.

>> No.14443067

>>14442857
Stop being a pussy and just do it. At least give hints to the thread

>> No.14443097

after going through 46 filenames and dozens of ids ive concluded this dude is a full time antichristianity shitposter.
>29 yo
>'autistic'
>stumbled upon guenon in 2015
>read him in 2017 (?)
>still to this year made pagan general threads
>most of his posts revolve around his hatred towards christianity and eastern shilling

at least you quit porn. but thats not enough. you better repent for all your blasphemy

>> No.14443159

>>14442584
I love reading stuff like that even though I have no idea who that guenonfag is, just like I enjoy reading lolcow stuff I know nothing about

>> No.14443179

>>14442857
>but you seem like a nice thoughtful lad
you may have good intentions, anon, but you are being too soft on a public blasphemous. can one hate christianity and be nice and thoughtful at the same time?

>> No.14443256

i have no intentions of doxing you, swede dude, but you will have to answer to God for all your antichristian posts. for your own soul's sake you better repent

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>>14443065
>I remember Millhouse is not a meme meme, the prototype forced meme
everyone knows the 'millhouse forced meme' thing even newfags. The problem with guenonfag forcing his meme is that he doesn't know how memes work. He uses them as a means to an end, not an end in itself (which is what they really are).

He hopes one day that his material will get more people into his 20th century LARP cult. Yet here we are nearly 2 years since he was spawned out of the trad general ashes and his efforts to promote traditionalism through memes has yet to take off in this board let alone anywhere else. In fact he has probably tarnished the image of traditionalism more than anyone, even Ken Wheeler.

Pic related is a simple case study into his shortcomings. He posts his usual geunonian schtick with the complementary first post 'based' samefaggotry but quickly loses his temper when others ride this meme with irony and mockery. He always makes it personal, doesn't alter his posting pattern to hide his tracks and keeps committing freudian slips that out him (that's how we keep finding him out). And to boot, his forced memes are not very well thought out ('retroactively' instead of preemptively).

tl;dr He can't meme right because he doesn't understand how they propagate. He is his own obstacle.

>> No.14443298

>>14442954
>so if you are dedicated enough you can force changes in the culture through persistent spamming
when has this ever happened?

>> No.14443323

serious autism

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>>14438041
>"didn't even read but put me in the screencap if this was funny"
2019, ladies and germs.

>> No.14443354

>>14443281
>'retroactively' instead of preemptively
That's been to his advantage.

>> No.14443388

>>14443281
i'm not in this fight i just wanted to say that whoever is spamming guenon has turned me off guenon forever. i can't take him seriously if his readers are this mentally ill.

>inb4 Jung
that's different, Jungians aren't out here saying how his ideas will save humanity or solved philosophy or whatever

>> No.14443450

>>14443388
The man literally dunks on and btfos most if not all of post-greek Western philosophy. Do you expect him not to get spammed on a site filled with adhd autists?

>> No.14443454

>>14443281
Considering he's become a board celebrity with numerous people obsessed with him and a good amount of impostors and made guenon posting extremely popular, I'd say he succeeded.

>> No.14443463

>>14443450
>dunks on and btfos most if not all of post-greek Western philosophy
that's not difficult. philosophers after Aquinas were nearly all pseuds, and the 20th century is thick with them except for Wittgenstein.

>> No.14443466

>>14443454
not that anon but is anyone actually reading guenon instead of merely spamming him? the only people who buy guenon books because of the spammer are pseuds who don't read.

>> No.14443473

>>14443463
>except for Wittgenstein
Retroactively refuted by guénon in his evola correspondence.

>> No.14443474

>>14443097
>46 filenames

mirin the dedication

>> No.14443499

>>14443281
>The problem with guenonfag forcing his meme is that he doesn't know how memes work. He uses them as a means to an end, not an end in itself (which is what they really are).

I was just thinking this myself. For a long time I thought he was some kind of crazy boomer, because he never uses memes organically, he just assimilates them as useful tools for furthering his goals. He seems to only absorb 4chan "culture" insofar as he is instrumentalizing it. For example, once a few people replied "cope" or "cringe" to him, he started saying "cope" and "cringe" to anyone and everyone he didn't like or agree with, without any attempt to use it in a funny or subversive way. It just became a way of going "your post wrong, me post right." Not to say cope/cringe posting is particularly subtle, but there is something even less subtle about how Guenonfag uses it.

Same with every other meme he uses. He learned about "OH NO NO NO" and suddenly every other trad/guenon post was
>he doesn't know Advaita rules and Buddhism sucks
>OH NO NO NO
No attempt to be funny, no attempt to weave it into something more than the sum of its parts.

Turns out he's not a boomer though, he's an angry angry swede. Honestly I'm glad other people notice this shit about him, he's sociologically/psychologically interesting and I somehow feel others need to appreciate him.

>quickly loses his temper
>his forced memes are not very well thought out ('retroactively' instead of preemptively).
This was a result of his spitefulness/pettiness. People made fun of him for fucking up "retroactively" and for forcing it, so what does he do? Commits to it 10x more. Same with the whole guenon spam thing in general. Like I said above, you can tell from some of his posts on /his/ that he's genuinely dismayed that people are annoyed by his guenon spam. But instead of reflecting on why (even when people politely give him good reasons), he throws a hissy fit and spams ten times more.

Above all, the dude just can't take a joke or relax.

>> No.14443517

>>14443499
pretty sure it's autism
pretty sure it's some extremely frustrated loner struggling in school
pretty sure he's going to jump off a building

>> No.14443523

>>14443499
you're so obsessed with him lol

>> No.14443543

>>14443517
I hope not. If his /pol/ posts are any indication the dude is deeply troubled. Not just the stuff he posts about (extremely fixated on race and race mixing even by /pol/ standards), but the sheer volume of it. The dude's primary hobby for YEARS is arguing with Christians and Buddhists on the internet. To the point that he doesn't even argue with them, he just copypastes or screenshots his own posts, but still has an autistic meltdown in nearly every thread because he's taking it so seriously.

What I don't understand is the sheer ugliness of his samefagging, it's such a creepy manipulative thing to do. Does he justify it to himself by saying that he's spreading the good word of Guenon/Traditionalism and the means justify the ends? Because he's doing the exact opposite of that. It just makes no sense.

>>14443523
OBSESSED

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>>14439496
>tfw I posted my US passport proving I'm American but schizofag is so obsessed with me that he doesn't want to believe that the Swedebro isn't me because he wants to savor doxxing someone whom he imagines to be me
oh well, I feel sorry for my swedebro but I will continue shitposting on /lit/ all the same

>> No.14443574

>>14443561
See above: "Yeah it's totally not you, he just posts with the same filenames you use on /lit/, the same obnoxious mannerisms ("OH NO NO NO"), the same misspellings and engrishisms."

>I will continue shitposting on /lit/ all the same
No one ever doubted that. At this point, at least we all know that your own life is punishment enough for what you do to /lit/.

>> No.14443589

>>14443574
Fuck you I like guenonfag

Stay mad tho you entertain us

>> No.14443656

>>14443574
if I'm the swedish guy explain the american passport then

>> No.14443671

>>14442415
> it's clear you arent either. just look at the finger-nail region
this anon knows.

>>14439496
you are 100% for certain a Russian.

>> No.14443683

>>14443671
you can see the blue veins showing through the back of my hand in that photo because my skin is so fair

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>guenonfag isn't whi-

>> No.14443765

>>14442857
>>14439583
First you say it's on /pol/ then on /fit/, which is it?

>> No.14443789

>>14443747
What cereal is that in the background? Just curious

>> No.14443807

>>14443656
No, you're right. I just looked again. There are in fact two guenonfags, and they seem to know each other.

The Swede is confirmed for /lit/ spamming:
>>14439388 swede bragging about guenon spamming
>>14442231 "As a Chad Swede"

They post the same links, often the same filenames, they use the same wording in many cases, and they often post in the same threads as one another, but I believe it is two distinct Guenonfags. They seem to know one another, so most likely they are friends. You're the American, right? Is your name Matthew?

Like I said, the lore keeps getting deeper. There are at least two. Maybe three if that hispanic joins in like he claimed. But the main bulk of Guenon spam on /lit/ is coming from either the Swede or the American, or both in tandem.

>> No.14443818

>>14443807
They are discordtrannies, I knew it

>> No.14443851

>>14443818
Probably only in a minimal sense. I bet they just talk to eachother. It wouldn't take much to say "hey I posted another thread kek" and bump one another's shitposts.

The Swede is the crazier of the two and seems to post a lot more. Also explains the Engrish in many Guenonfag posts. The "American" is clearly not white (as noted, look at his fingernails). My guess is some kind of Indian halfcast. Outside possibility he's Iranian, but he doesn't seem to get along with the Zoroastrian guy so I doubt it. Either way, he seems more measured but it's hard to tell.

My guess: Swedish Guenonfag called in his American friend to confuse the issue once he knew he was found out.

>> No.14443855

>>14443807
We are all Guenonfag now...
Oh, wait, no, that was Buterfly. Never mind!

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>>14443807
>There are at least two. Maybe three
Are you saying Guénonfag is triune?

>> No.14443889

>>14443878
Possibly..

What if the hispanic is Seguro? That would explain why there was a random Mexican on /lit/ who was willing to edit Guenon's Wikipedia article with some gay forced Guenonfag meme.

That would make:
>the Swedish crazy guy who tYpEs LiKe tHiS when he's flustered
>the measured American guy (Matthew) who probably gives Swedish guy his info/links
>Seguro who posted inexplicably in defense of the guenon spam ("haha come on guys, there were lots of guenon spammers! i was a guenonspammer myself!")

So basically, yeah, discord trannies. Possibly literally in the Swede guy's case since he's the girlcock one.

>> No.14443896

>>14443878
so much for his hatred of Christianity...

>> No.14443977

Op I'm sorry for the bullying you're getting I always enjoy your enthusiasm and dedication. Your race doesn't matter as much as you think, maybe try to get in touch with your root cultures so you find a place to belong. It's unhealthy to post this much online, life is out there go breathe.

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>>14443977
This.

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lmao what the fuck?

>> No.14444222 [DELETED] 

>>14439496
Ah man do yourself a favor and look for the sri tantraloka elsewhere best I found in translation is from pajeet giriratna miss paraphrasing his guru

>> No.14444334

anon who went through 46 filenames here. some of the filenames were posted under american IP. how could one explain that? it could be the case he's a swede american living in sweden

>> No.14444352

Damn I never noticed he's that anti-Christianity. He even put a Christian book on the Guènon chart.

>> No.14444371

>>14444334
This is my best guess >>14443889 (plus or minus Seguro). Either that or you are simply correct and he is one American/Swede guy. I think it's probably mainly the Swede. They probably have a small discord or something similar. If you really look into it, the American seems to be more level-headed and write differently, though he's still a pretty big retard. He's been repeating the same book recommendations for 4 years and never read anything else beyond them.

If you look at the American's posts from 2016, he's asking strange questions like "can you move a thread between boards" that most 4chan users wouldn't ask. So he's probably a post-2016 newfag. It would explain why he posts less frequently.

In any case, I had fun. It's like solving a gay little mystery!

>>14444352
The Swedefag is the rabidly anti-Christian Varg neopagan one, but if you look closely the American is disdainful of Christian metaphysics too. He only respects neoplatonist ones, and only insofar as they are neoplatonist.

>> No.14444412

>>14444371
posts w/ american flag
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1569490883495.jpg
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1551899911981.jpg
1564513328314.jpg
canadian:
1546586208515.jpg
1506188759655.png

some others include hungary (1x), uk (2x). but would need to check dates and writing style which i didnt. some dates are like day 29 usa day 30 sweden which could be weird. on int there was indian flags

>> No.14444429

the style in these posts under different flags seem to be exactly the same

>> No.14444436

>>14444412
Wow, you're right, I thought it was only overlap of filenames for pics they shared/googled from a common source, but it's the exact same unix filenames from 4chan images, across both an American and a Swedish IP. So it could just be one guy switching between them.

I've noticed he (or someone similar0 sometimes had a Finnish IP as well, and once Bhutan. It wouldn't surprise me if he uses proxies, but that doesn't really explain his regular use of Swedish/US IPs?

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huh? does that put to rest the theory that Swedeanon and Guenonfagsama are the same?

>> No.14444517

>>14444500
There were a couple of small things like that, that's why I figured they were different guys. The weird thing is that the "Evropa" thing is Swedefag's larping, but the links themselves are Guenonfag's. Try searching the phrase "non-commentary" on warosu and /pol/ for several of Americanfag's posts, plus the Swede copypasting the links. We may never know the truth..

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>>14439205
lel that is literally me. I'm not guenonfag though. What made you connect the two?

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>>14439412
>>14439418
>>14439485
holy fuck what is happening

am I really guenonfag?

>> No.14444600

>>14444581
>>14444560
The current theory is that you may be sorta like his overly excitable sidekick.

Wait, he deleted his posts as I was replying.

>> No.14444606

>>14444600
the plot thickens

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>>14444600
yeah it was getting too weird ;^( i'm being stalked for my shitposts

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>>14444560
>>14444581
The original Guenonfag here, they are confusing you for me because of you posting on /pol/ about Shankara/Advaita and for reposting the copypasta of links to Shankara's works that I'd posted on /lit/ before. I've talked to you before back when we had the Gita reading group on /lit/ and the associated discord a year or two ago, I'm the guy who originally recommended that you read Shankara's Gita commentary and posted a link to it. You once asked me in the discord about what one of the Gita likes talking about akasha meant and I explained it.

You're my homie though dawg, if you ever want to email about Advaita or anything you can reach me at guenonfag@gmail.com

>> No.14444637

>>14444612
Yes, sorry about that. I spoiler-apologized to you for going too deep by accident.

>>14444628
This partly solves the mystery, and is what I figured. I was just looking at the records of the Gita discord. I was wondering if that's where this all started.

It's interesting that the brown American and the (brown?) Swede don't know eachother directly. Maybe this thread has sparked a lifelong friendship?

>> No.14444661

Speaking of the Gita discord, I think American Guenonfag used to post with a trip, "Guru !1zyN8PNIdo"

Oddly enough he's a /tv/ poster. Here he is accidentally posting with his trip on and deleting the post:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/106716642/

He apparently likes cunny.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1387599293650/

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>>14444628
well the first half of this post was correct but I've never used discord. And yes. I usually save links and good quotes for Advaita/Buddhism in a docfile which is why I've posted the links once or twice here when someone asked for it. I even remember someone saying I was guenonfag the first time I did it but I had no idea it was gonna spiral into a manhunt like this. Is that really your email?

spooky stuff!

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>>14444560
>>14444581
>>14444612
>>14444669
stop posting

>> No.14444694

>>14444690
damn you were too fast. I was gonna make this my new shtick.

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>>14444669
>Is that really your email?
Yes it is, I made it as a joke but can still email with you using it. NeoZurvan anon already emailed me one of his manifestos
>>14444661
That guy was not me either, I think he may have been the guy who started the Gita reading group but I can't remember.

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>matthew and bundaswede don't even fucking know eachother

THIS ISN'T THE HAPPY ENDING I WANTED

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>>14444710
i got you senpai.

Haven't been reading any Advaita lately though.

>> No.14444795

>>14444715
oh no no no we stalked the wrong dude. is matthew as anti christian as the swede shitposter?

>> No.14444813

>>14437315
I don't get it. He only asked what you were reading. It's not like you proclaimed yourself an expert on Traditionalism or anything.

>> No.14444848

>>14444795
Matthew doesn't like Christian metaphysics because he doesn't like dualism or anything other than monism. He likes Christianity insofar as it's basically Sufism, which he considers to be basically Hindu monism. That's his schtick.

My question is this. Who is the really vicious/insane samefagging Guenonfag? Is it the Swede guy who is at least confirmed for guenonshitposting? A lot of the worst posts ("YoU CaN't HaVe Up WiThOuT dOwN mY dUdEz loooooollzzlz lmafaooo :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!1!111!") correspond with Swedebro's typing style. Or COULD it be Matthew? He seems more relaxed. And if you go way back and look at Matthew's old posts, he's even outright polite much of the time. Did he just go bad at some point?

Who is the chronic samefag? That's what I wanna know. Of course, whoever it is would deny it, as he always does.

>> No.14444853

>>14444848
>He likes Christianity insofar as it's basically Sufism,
I should have said, only insofar as it presents itself as a sort of Christian Sufism. Which is rare, so obviously he only likes rare instances or aspects of Christianity.

>> No.14444875

>>14444848
Fucking murder mystery

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>>14444848
>>14444853
based comitted investigator bro. are you the /schizobro/ guenonfag talks about

>> No.14444889

in the end it turns out we are all autisticbros

>> No.14444901

I feel like this thread is a guenonfag ruse, trying to convince us he is multiple persons. You can smell the autistic unhealthy obsessed guenonfag in here and his multiple personalities

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>>14444848

Why do you keep pasting my question like a retard? You would get an even more choleric reply out of me if you attempted to answer it using Buddhist "logic". Will peruse these God-forsaken Guenon threads for the next 48 hours hoping that you do. You won't.

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14445029

this shit is too hilarious. i never paid attention to the whole guenonfag and anti-guenonfag accusations because i thought there were multiple people behind it now this just got another layer

>> No.14445050

>>14444879
I can't even tell. I am definitely one of them. He calls everyone a schizo tho, it's one of the things he learned and assimilated as a thing you can say on 4chan to EPIC CRINGE SEETHE your opponent into submission. I am the one that made the joke post about how "we're mentally ill together!" and Guenonfag held it up as some kind of proof that I admitted to being schizo. There's another guy who makes the actually funny/good infographics, then there's at least two lowercase typing guys (I think one of them is the other guy ITT). I am also not a Buddhist or even a Christian, so whoever he argues with on those grounds, it isn't me.

>>14444974
See, this is the real Guenonfag. You can see his complete autistic tone-deafness to what's actually happening, as he fixates on the one thing that makes his brain go "OH YEAH???? FIGHT ME BUDDHIST??" non sequitur.

So wait, that IS you? It's just a coincidence the Swede does the same embarrassing 16yo girl from 2012 typing quirk to eMpHaSiZe HiS sArCaSm? I think it's hopelessly confused at this point. That's why I paste it, because it's fucking deranged. You really think that was a good thing to post? So are you the same guy as the original Guenonfag back in the day, the one who would get into one argument with a guy who mentions Daniel Dennett or something and then for weeks afterwards you'd be going FIGHT ME DENNETIAN! I KNOW IT'S YOU!!! to random people?

>>14445029
It's too far gone now.. We'll never know the truth.

>> No.14446008

>>14443747
nice deceptive lighting, mutt

>> No.14446028

>>14437356
>misspelling oeuvre
please tell me more about this meme philosopher

>> No.14446031

>>14440487
based

>> No.14446050

>>14446008
>pink nipples

>> No.14446506

just please fucking explain what guenon even thought if he's so special, I'm not wasting time reading a bunch of shit to figure it out
pretty please

>> No.14446567

>>14443732
When will we take the next step from Evola and Guenon to Serrano and Savitri Devi

>> No.14446595
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>>14437418
Guénonfag is literally Yuji Sakai, that is, he's become such a meme that others just jump on the bandwagon and immitate him.

>> No.14446697
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14446697

Just look at this man, it's very obvious that he stinks like shit. There is no way you can have this physiognomy and not stink like a festering asshole.
This one simple experiment leaves Guenon utterly BTFO.
>Imagine the smell.

>> No.14446732
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14446732

>>14437315
>be me
>talking about Platonism and going on pilgrimages with my professor
>professor says he's been thinking of going to Assisi (he's been a life-long Franciscan)
>tell him that the first time Simone Weil prayed was in the Porzuincula
>professor leans back and looks at me impressed and says he's decided to go to Assisi and will pray for me when he's there

Feels good to have picked the right meme

>> No.14446899

>>14446506
here's a qrd
>modern bad
>tradition good

>> No.14446978

>>14446506
There’s a primordial tradition/thought that is buried within some religions and philosophies but largely lost to time. This sacred tradition has been replaced by the obsession with quantity (or reductive materialism) ala modern science that has improved living conditions at the cost of spirituality. Guenon believes we are at the final degenerative phase of a cycle described by ancient peoples and a subsequent revival of the sacred tradition is underway.

>> No.14447979

>>14442474
Dating back from 2015, always the same (terrible) post style and content, ad nauseam.
How does he do it? Is this the final form of the swedecuck?

>> No.14448025

>>14443298
The Bogdanoff twins were regularly (like once a week) shilled by some dedicated anon throughout 2016 before taking off and becoming 2017 biggest sitewide meme.

>> No.14448042

>>14446978
>Guenon believes we are at the final degenerative phase of a cycle described by ancient peoples and a subsequent revival of the sacred tradition is underway.
does he and the traditions in general believe that the transitions into different phases of the cycle are continuous? as in no major cataclysm/reset is necessary and the situation gradually shifts.

>> No.14448101

Guenonfag is one of the most interesting piece of 4chan internal lore of the last few years.
It is refreshing to see some actual madmen posting here.

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>>14448042
Guenon certainly believed there is an apocalypse/cataclysm that is yet to come that will wipe the slate clean, which sets the stage for the Golden Age. Pic related is what New Age faggots want you to believe. There is no gradual return from the Kali Yuga to Satya Yuga. It is a sudden change that results in an apocalyptic return to the origin.

>> No.14448332

>>14448101
t. guenonfag

>> No.14448336

>>14444901
this

don't be fooled lads, Guenonfag is just 1 person.

>> No.14448340

>>14444901
>>14448336
Why is he like this? It's quite pathetic really.

>> No.14448355

>>14448336
This. As God is one, so is Guenonfag. Do not be fooled by heresy.

>> No.14448368

>>14444901
>>14448336
>>14448355
guenonfag counter-spam disinfo-op detected.

>> No.14448373

>>14448368
hello guenonfag, afraid we're seeing through your bullshit?

>> No.14448512

Sent an email to guenonfag and he didn't respond. Guy's mean.

>> No.14448578

>>14446732
Is Weil a meme?

>> No.14448588

>>14437315
There is not a single thing about this greentext that comes off as offensive besides the Professor laughing at you as you leave.

>> No.14448641

>>14445050

I myself hate Buddhism in general, not necessarily because it contradicts Advaita, and the handful of replies I made to these abominable threads clearly reflect that. That idiots like yourself cannot distinguish between general arguments based on Logic, like mine, and particular arguments based on people or traditions, like the Guenon guy's, instead insisting that rebuking Buddhism alone qualifies for a denominator common enough to ascribe radically different arguments to the same person, is so tragicomical that only a Buddhist could do it. By the way, this thread doesn't show up on warosu or moe, probably not getting archived, few people are insufferable enough to make jannies do this. Well done.

>> No.14448689

>>14448641

Forget the last part, most of yesterday's threads are not showing either. Though it IS possible that your idiocy has broken the board itself.

>> No.14448716

>>14448641
>>14448689
It's weird actually, the whole thread is there, but only the earlier replies appear using the search function

>>/lit/thread/S14437315

>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Solved+metaphysics+ended

>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Though+it+is+possible+idiocy

>> No.14448759

>>14446697
One look in his eyes and you can tell he has seen God.

>> No.14448912

>>14448641
>Guenon guy's
REMINDER that Guenonfag never refers to his posts as 'guenonfag', he refuses to propagate this name and instead uses words like 'guenon guy' or 'guenonperson' or 'guenonbro'.

It's his biggest tell.

>> No.14448918

>>14448912
Ok guenonposter

>> No.14448919

>>14448912
>he refuses to propagate this name
this indeed makes me think he is somehow deeply socially deficient and does not understand what the "-fag" suffix means.

>> No.14448989

>>14448912
>>14448919

Someone understanding, or not, what it means has no bearing on whether or not he uses it. Terminal stupidity.

>> No.14449036

>>14448918
>>14448989
ok guenonfag

>> No.14449065

>>14448989
>Someone understanding, or not, what it means has no bearing on whether or not he uses it
to the resident schizo it has a LOT of bearing

>> No.14449067

Why is this thread still alive

>> No.14449696

>>14449067

Moreover, what's going on with the cocksucking board itself? Neither archive has been saving for the past 20 hours or so.

>> No.14449894

>>14439496
>The Advaita Tradition in Indian Philosophy
Very based. But, having read that, you should know better than to engage in the brainlet-tier "muh Hinduism vs Buddhism" fights here, to be honest.

>> No.14449962

>>14439496
>American
>White

>> No.14450022

>the retroactive refutation
the meme for the new rounded year

>> No.14450069

should i read guenon or is he just a shitty /lit/ meme?

>> No.14450109

>>14449696
good

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>>14450109
>mfw the jannies' yearly sybian party is perturbing the power grid and messing with the servers

>> No.14450613

>>14444661
>He apparently likes cunny
Based. Who doesn't these days? Islam is the truth, brothers. Assalamu alaikum!

>> No.14450626

>>14450069
He is white and based. Literally changed my life. Have been on nofap for 2+ months and will probably convert to Islam soon.

>> No.14450641

>>14437315
Guenon was a meme during the 80s. There is no way he hadn't read him. Fake and gay OP

>> No.14450653

>>14450641
I approve this. Definitely true. We had reading groups in our little appartment complex. Literally everyone worth their shit was reading and discussing Guénonic non-dualistic thought.

>> No.14450712

What would Guenon say or Christmas? I think it is fine to celebrate it as long as you do not mock Christ by taking hom to be Allah, on whom sole worship and praise belongs.

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aren’t Sufis Gnostics who were forced to convert to Islam and them just plopped a little “Allah, Mohammed” stuff on top and kept their esoterism?
How can you even convert to Sufism then? You are either born one, slave of the fact your ancestors were forcefully converted or you just go with the mohammedan uninfluenced Sufist origin which are some form of ancient gnosticism.
Dude seemed like a retard.

>> No.14450731

>>14450718
Isn't it haram under islam to be a bodybuilder?

>> No.14450753

>>14450626
>and will probably convert to Islam soon
what about becoming a sannyasi?

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>>14448101
Yes indeed, and what drove him mad was the fact that Whitehead completed the system of radical empiricism.

>> No.14450839

>>14450753
Idk. I always wanted to be a father. Maybe I am not enlightened enough, maybe in the next cycle...

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what should i read? i finished earlier reign of quantity. already read crisis of the modern world, insights into christian esotericism and the esoterism in dante. im catholic. should i jump into borella, rama and the other catholics?

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>>14450829
And got it retroactively refuted the moment he submitted it to his publisher. So much for ""completing"" his restrictive toy system. Literally laughing out loud as I type this. Hope your post was a subtle joke I was just too dumb to grasp.

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>>14450839
yeah idk what path to take im still on the diving board. good luck to you anon.

>> No.14450883

>>14450753
How can a western get initiation with the brahmins? It's a almost impossible thing. The only way to be come a sannyasi, as far as I know, is with heterodox institutions; i.e Ramakrishna math.

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>>14450874
Good luck to you too anon. May you find your path.

>> No.14450937

>>14450718
No. Sufism is just Islam in its purest form.

>> No.14450961

>>14449894
Most Buddhists on /lit/ would hotly contest the author's explanation and portrayal of original and Madhyamaka Buddhism in that book. In particular Sharma says that Nagarjuna refers to a transcendental reality via apophatic negation which is itself not emtpy of inherent existence like objects are but is only empty of avidya, suffering, multiplicity etc. The popular intepretation of Nagarjuna on /lit/ that the Buddhists here like to argue in favor of is that even Nirvana or the Absolute is empty of inherent existence like objects/samsara is and that Nirvana is not any sort of transcendental X but just represents the stopping of all thoughts/objectification and basically turning yourself into an NPC by dissolving into nothingess. When I argue with people it's typically when they claim that the latter is the essence of Buddhism and not the former which I don't have an issue with.

>> No.14450999

>>14450961
But would any true buddhist- in a non-western monastery- really contest that Nirvana is the former?

It seems to me that the latter is such a clear profanation of Buddha's teachings that it can only be one perpetuated by those with enormous materialistic tendencies.

>> No.14451015

>>14450862
>2020
>He still doesn't know the metaphysical implications of the fundamental theorem of calculus.

>> No.14451051

>>14451015
Calculus is literally a scam to keep you away from the luminous truth of infinitesimals. We use metaphysical synthetic differential geometry nowadays.
https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/synthetic+differential+geometry

>> No.14451091

>>14451051
>https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/synthetic+differential+geometry
literal brainlet here what does this mean

>> No.14451111

>>14450937
>purest form of islam just lets you ignore the koran altogether
wtf im muslim now

>> No.14451145

>>14451111
You have no knowledge of Sufism. There's no ignoring the Qu'ran in traditional tariqas. In fact, as the greatest expounder of Doctrinal Sufism stated, unveiling is but the comprehension of the Book. If you had contact with any of the great sufi saints, you'd know that the Qu'ran is almost a part of them.

>> No.14451183

>>14450847
Jean Hani's book on Cathedrals is excellent, one of the best books on the faith I have read. He actually recieves the imprimatur on many of his books and is very committed to orthodoxy, unlike certain deviant Guenonian Catholics who are obsessed with only the metaphysical.
I am reading Jean Borella's book Christ the Original Mystery now. It is good and takes certain Guenonian but critiques them when necessary and applies them to Catholicism. He responds to the esoterism/exoterism dialectic of Guenon and discusses the proper hermeneutical methods for the discussion of the faith. It is a direct response to the books you have read so it would be a natural choice to read in the future (just make sure you don't get burned out since it is rather long). I am only 150 pages in but it has been solid so far. He discusses Hegel a bit too which is rather interesting.
Meditations on the Tarot: A journey into Christian Hermeticism is good but a bit anti-traditional at times. It is more a meditative book to just provoke you into thinking about certain spiritual topics.
Fr. Chad Ripperger has great sermons on YouTube.
S.H. Nasr is not Catholic but has a lot of great YouTube lectures regarding philosophical issues facing the modern west as a result of abandoning the faith.
Gornahoor is a unique internet blog that is based around western Traditionalism, especially in its Catholic form. It has some solid articles.

I would be wary of Rama. He is smart no doubt, but likely to lead you on a path of pessimism and extremism. Anyone who gets kicked out of the SSPX is a red flag.

The most important thing to do more than anything is fast, pray, and go to the traditional mass. I have benefitted more by fasting and recieving the Eucharist than I have with any book I have ever read.

>> No.14451210

>>14451091
It's essentialy a metaphysical generalization of the underlying appartus of calculus. Like real numbers and shit but synthetically and with proper infinitesimals. Real numbers and analysis for white people, if one could say that.

>> No.14451228

>>14451183
>S.H. Nasr
He has some fine youtube recordings and writings, but beware that he is literally a CIA informant. So take anythign he says even remotely related to politics with a huge bag of salt.

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14451248

>>14437315
Get me in the screencap

>> No.14451287

>>14451183
>The most important thing to do more than anything is fast, pray, and go to the traditional mass. I have benefitted more by fasting and recieving the Eucharist than I have with any book I have ever read.
Amen.

>> No.14451301

>>14451228
Yes you are totally right. I was only recently made aware of such things. I find it rather odd that he is, given the fact that America is the bosom of ideals most antithetical to tradition, and thus, many of Nasr's own ideas.

>> No.14451844

>>14437315
Is there a single female booktuber who reads him? If not I am forced to conclude that he is a pseud.

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>>14437315

I'm also falling for the meme.

>> No.14452172

>>14451979
We are winning lads
The end of the Kali Yuga draweth nigh

>> No.14452191

>>14451979
good. read reign of quantity after

>> No.14452410

>>14450626
>He is white and based. Literally changed my life. Have been on nofap for 2+ months and will probably convert to Islam soon.
does guenon really advocate nofap?

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>>14451844
>Is there a single female booktuber who reads him? If not I am forced to conclude that he is a pseud.
the female mind does not have the capacity to understand guenon

>> No.14452469

>>14452432
I'm a human female and I find your internet post offensive.

>> No.14452495

>>14452469
post feet

>> No.14452517

>>14452469
post dick

>> No.14452527

>>14452517
haha you got me there haha good one lmao

>> No.14452648

>>14451183
>Anyone who gets kicked out of the SSPX is a red flag.

He said he left because Lefevbre was compromising with "modernist Rome."

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>>14452495
Will do
>>14452517
This isn't a NSFW board

>> No.14452683

>>14443671
the carpet gives it away

>> No.14452984

I never knew Guenonfag lore was so deep.

>> No.14453008

Why do all the insane people hate Buddhism so much?

>> No.14453060

>>14452648
My point still stands though, regardless of the reason. If you are traditionalist to the point that the SSPX shuns you, I would be wary. That's just my opinion. He was also ordained a priest while a married man. While I don't think such a thing is necessarily sinful (considering it can be done in the Byzantine rite), it was done in the Latin rite and there seems to be little justification for it.

>> No.14453163

>>14451979
Basé. Love how those Arabic tomes look, there is truly something divine about the language.

>> No.14453265

>>14452191
not him, but I just read crisis too. is his hindu doctrines strictly a prerequisite for reign of quantity?

>> No.14453272

>>14453008
Because Śaṅkarācārya was right when wrote in his commentary on Brahma Sutra 2.2.32

"From whatever new points of view the Buddha's system is tested with reference to its probability, it gives way on all sides, like the walls of a well, dug in sandy soil. It has, in fact, no foundation whatever to rest upon and hence the attempts to use it as a guide in the practical concerns of life are mere folly. Moreover Buddha, by propounding the three mutually contradicting systems, teaching respectively the reality of the external world, the reality of ideas only and general nothingness, has himself made it clear that he was a man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused…Buddha’s doctrine has to be entirely disregarded by all those who have a regard for their own happiness."

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>>14437315
What other authors should I read to get this enlightening feeling of going into a thread on some lesser board and being able to spot all the hylics and other brainlets instantaneously? I feel like this power is too strong for me to bear.

>> No.14453331

>>14453328
Emily Dickinson

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>>14453272
>"From whatever new points of view the Buddha's system is tested with reference to its probability, it gives way on all sides, like the walls of a well, dug in sandy soil. It has, in fact, no foundation whatever to rest upon and hence the attempts to use it as a guide in the practical concerns of life are mere folly. Moreover Buddha, by propounding the three mutually contradicting systems, teaching respectively the reality of the external world, the reality of ideas only and general nothingness, has himself made it clear that he was a man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused…Buddha’s doctrine has to be entirely disregarded by all those who have a regard for their own happiness."

>> No.14453357

>>14453328
Shankara, Guenon's writings are heavily influenced by him

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-Vol-1.pdf

>> No.14453377

>>14453272
>>14453341
lmao. i read this quote without reading the source and thought it was written by Guénon. he truly was Shankara reincarnated.

>> No.14453404

>>14453328
Urs Allemann, especially his greatest work "Babyfucker"

>> No.14453405

I know guenonfag offline and the theories in this thread are retarded. Some of you people are actual schizos. He is white and not living in europe.

>> No.14453547

>>14453405
>non european
>white

>> No.14453584

>>14443851
>but he doesn't seem to get along with the Zoroastrian guy
Did guenonfag and the Zarathustra-nazi have a feud? Now that would be worth reading. Can someone give me a link?

>> No.14453602

>>14453328
If you think yourself to have transcended, that is an instant way to know that you are not even on the path. Humble yourself.

>> No.14453643

>>14453584
I looked myself and found one thread. They didn't disappoint.
>>/lit/thread/S13739551
If anyone has more please share.

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>>14451051
Hi I'd have to write a lot of pages to fully cover the topic, but sometime I'll tell you about my experiences with meditation from which "Space Taoism" was derived. This resulted in the derivation of my own unique process philosophy that is astoundingly similar to Whitehead's philosophy because such a dynamic of relational change is truly at the heart of process philosophy, even when not directly implied. I became a Whiteheadean before ever knowing about Whitehead, and have my own unique insight into the problems of process philosophy. Some of them are quite radical and "impolite" as they demand a radical perspectival inclusivity such that even your boy Guenon is encouraged to enter the conversation as accepting of having something meaningful to say about the world by such sincere engagement with philosophical pursuit. The implications of Whiteheadean metaphysics is radical metaphysical inclusivity, so no, Guenon cannot possible retroactively BTFO Whitehead, as Whitehead preemtively welcomes him into the conversation about metaphysics.

Whitehead was sort of the ultimate fanboy of philosophy in that he legitimately loved all philosophers in that he greatly admired the sincere and committed spirit that inspired all of them. His only real implicit "argument" is that metaphysics matters, it is a spiritual artform. Do you think that Guenon would disagree with the premise "metaphysics is a spiritual artform?"

Anyways this is one of the most powerful translations of the sentiment I call "space Taoism," the immanently metaphysical implications of the fundamental theorem of calculus, that is best and most respectfully described as a sentiment, a chosen style of engaging with the world: https://youtu.be/2K_aHCJbxN0
Maybe the quests of your questions grow to newly discovered thrivings.

>> No.14454254

>>14453272
What does this mean?

>> No.14454486

>>14437315
I'm convinced nothing good can come of anyone that uses the word "pretentious" . Be more sincere in your actions.

>> No.14454548

>>14453060
>If you are traditionalist to the point that the SSPX shuns you

But he wasn't shunned. He shunned them. What don't you understand?

>> No.14454623

>>14453265
No, absolutely not. Reign of Quantity is a more in depth analysis of the crisis.

>> No.14454869

>>14453602
he doesn't seem to talk about "transcendence". I have experienced this thing too when your senses become vastly more keen towards detecting the kind of people he mentions.

>> No.14454888

>>14453008
Because he had a bad reading in Réné Guénon.

>> No.14455087

>>14442824
What do the upanishads say about a stand alone complex?

>> No.14455090

>>14443039
sneed