/lit/ - Literature

Don't be a faggot, make your case for it, shut the fuck up or be that stuck-up little bookcunt that makes us all look bad.

>>14406939
I dont know about the version in your OP but the Golding version is godlike. Even Shakespeare loved it.

>>14406950
ok zoomer

>>14406939
i'll read it for you anon

I found an online edition that separated the work in topics with links to the parts that talked about the respective topic, like Hermes, Pythagoras, etc. I only read the ones that interested me and in no particular order so naturally the work came off as fragmentary to me. Does it have a narrative structure? What’s the moral of the story?

The greatest stories of Eros ever written are from Ovid.
>Narzissus & Echo
>Alcyone & Ceyx
>Actaeon
>byblis
>pygmalion

>>14408949
You forgot about "Tereus, Procne, and Philomela," which happens to be one of my personal favorites.

>Nothing he would not do, nothing not dare, as passion drove unreined, a furnace barely in his heart contained.

>>14406939
Should I read that translation?

>>14409134
Yes

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>>14409531
What about Dryden?

>>14408687
No it has no structure, the individual stories are very loosely connected, it makes no difference what order you read them

>>14410752
If you're going oldie, go for Golding.

>>14406939
I need to read this, paradise lost, AND my homer. I fuckin suck, boys. Lotta books to read

>>14410893
ikr

>>14410893
That's 3 books. Four if you mean both Iliad and Odyssey. You could finish a preliminary reading of all of them before February.

Does anyone want to compare translations? This is beginning of Stanley Lombardo (pic related). Very trustworthy style, I think... The Latin sounds beautiful but is a struggle to decode so I am reading them both together. I also like his Parmenides and Empedocles verse rendering although I cannot comment on the accuracy as it is all Greek to me.

>In nova fert animus mutatas dicere formas
>corpora; di, coeptis (nam vos mutastis et illas)
>adspirate meis primaque ab origine mundi
>ad mea perpetuum deducite tempora carmen!
>Ante mare et terras et quod tegit omnia caelum
>unus erat toto naturae vultus in orbe,
>quem dixere chaos: rudis indigestaque moles
>nec quicquam nisi pondus iners congestaque eodem
>non bene iunctarum discordia semina rerum.
>nullus adhuc mundo praebebat lumina Titan,
>nec nova crescendo reparabat cornua Phoebe,
>nec circumfuso pendebat in aere tellus
>ponderibus librata suis, nec bracchia longo
>margine terrarum porrexerat Amphitrite;
>utque erat et tellus illic et pontus et aer,
>sic erat instabilis tellus, innabilis unda,
>lucis egens aer; nulli sua forma manebat,
>obstabatque aliis aliud, quia corpore in uno
>frigida pugnabant calidis, umentia siccis,
>mollia cum duris, sine pondere, habentia pondus.
>Hanc deus et melior litem natura diremit.
>nam caelo terras et terris abscidit undas
>et liquidum spisso secrevit ab aere caelum.
>quae postquam evolvit caecoque exemit acervo,
>dissociata locis concordi pace ligavit:
>ignea convexi vis et sine pondere caeli
>emicuit summaque locum sibi fecit in arce;
>proximus est aer illi levitate locoque;
>densior his tellus elementaque grandia traxit
>et pressa est gravitate sua; circumfluus umor
>ultima possedit solidumque coercuit orbem.

>>14411034
Very strong images. I love knowing Latin.

>>14410926
That's a very fine point. I dont struggle with reading. I rarely procrastinate, but something about epics drag for me. That said, I know their immeasurable importance and know I have to get to them eventually.

>>14407003
>this post

OP, pls

>>14411043
Ovid is the sole reason I started learning Latin

>>14409068
Ew.

>>14406939
>Melville translation
lmao no

>>14409134
>>14411203
>they can't read Latin

Hard yikes, my dudes.

>>14408949

>>14411203
I've heard the Scribner Classic is good. Idk who translated it though.

>>14411576
nonono
ovid > manga

>>14406939
Get the cool translation.

>>14412023
>(((Golding)))
No

>>14412023
>(((Penguin Classics))) translation

>>14406939
if you haven't read it in latin shut the fuck up, you've never read ovid's writing

>>14412038
"Golding" is as Anglo-Saxon as it gets. You're thinking "Goldberg".
>>14412168
Shakespeare and Spenser liked it and that's the highest praise possible.

>>14412023
Isn't that a bit antiquated? I just read Mandelbaum.

>>14412229
>antiquated
Pleb.
>(((Mandelbaum)))
Literally the shittiest popular translator. I know Italian and his Divine Comedy is utter dogshit.

>>14406939
Fuck off. Gormenghast is the greatest work of literature the world has ever seen.

>>14412327
Lol no. The writing may be the best at defining everything visually, but the plot is no better than Charles Dickens. Not that Dickens is bad, just not the greatest ever.

>>14411034
No one wants to compare?

I voted Metamorphoses as my #1 dw

>>14411043
>very strong images. I love knowing Latin.
You know you sound like an arsehole? For boasting about your Latin knowledge and sharing such a vapid opinion in the breath

>>14411576
those are both guys right? right?!

>>14413911
wouldn’t qualify as patrician eros if it weren’t two cute bois

>>14406939
I fucking loved it

>>14410893
You could easily read The Iliad and Paradise Lost in 1 month if you dedicate 30-60 minutes daily to reading. Just don't stress yourself bro.

>>14406939
his depiction of Pandora shaped up the way the world see women up to this day

>>14406939
Just finished book 2! It's fucking brilliant I agree. I am an Egyptologist myself and while I usually say skip the greeks this is a good exception

>>14412982
im never read Ovid in english mate. wanna compare german to english or what?

>>14413894
cope

>>14415663
>skip the greeks
would you egypt... ever even get as far as the greeks beside the freak incidents like for the rosetta stone?

>>14415677
I wouldn't call archaeology a freak incident anon.

>>14413087
What were your second and third?

>>14415810
De Rerum Natura and the Divine Comedy. After that was Conversations of Goethe but I should have just put Faust if I wanted to honor him.

>>14415672
I can read Latin fuckwit that’s not the point

>>14415745
Isn’t most of archeology relying on freak incidents exactly like the rosetta stone?

>>14413894
We're in a fucking literature board...

>>14415663
>be egyptologist
>skip the greeks

kek

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