/lit/ - Literature

Just finished The Prince of Nothing book 1. There seemed to be a lot talk about spilling seed. I also feel that the world feels very depressing, or at least that the characters in the world are depressing. None of them can seem be considered a hero, or someone you'd want to know in person. I'm 30% through the second book so far; does it get better or worse?

>>14370447
worse lol

>>14370447
Akka has done literally nothing wrong

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdF_pedZpXbbJMtaOzgsckqxm6I_Yot2ozXdLeULXv-fI2dJA/viewform?usp=sf_link

/sffg/ top 100 survey

>>14370689
I'm getting close to halfway through the second book at this point, and it's looking pretty clear that "Akka" is going to be responsible for some very significant wrongs; like teaching someone something he shouldn't teach.

>>14370788
Are there gonna be enough responses for top 100? If the bottom books are gonna have like one or two votes, perhaps you should reduce the list to top 50 or something, otherwise we may get swamped by trolls.

>>14370876
yeah maybe, there are 2 weeks still left, we can decide then

>>14370447
The books get progressively more depressing, just give up hope for an even mildly hopeful ending and you're set. If you want more positive fantasy I wholeheartedly recommend Terry Pratchett.

What are some good fantasy books with submissive women and dominant men?

>>14370447
>seriously reading the black semen books

lmao

>>14371420
Man, you really need to stop posting the goddess. I told you before I'm deeply obsessed with her. Just let me be!

>Traitor's Blade (Sebastien De Castell)
>Promise of Blood (Brian McClellan)
>The Shadow of What Was Lost (James Islington)
I'm a terror for deciding what to read, I could use some advice fellas

>>14371431
I'll stop when people give me book recommendations lol.

>>14371420
My diary.

How much money should a new and sealed copy of dune by folio society cost? I really want it but don't want to spend that much money on it. There's some retard on eBay who's selling an opened copy for 220$, it's not even first edition. I mean what kind of retardation is that? I just want a nice version of my favorite book, is that too much to ask for?

>>14359777
You know America (clapping capital of the world) has a huge child trafficking problem? And your foster care system enables it?
Look to your own home before you criticise other people of theirs.

>>14356559
>>14361678
Hull zero three
The barrow
Metro 2033
Clive Barker writes horror fantasy.

>>14370447
better, unless you mean does it get less depressing, in which case worse

>>14371453
>promise of blood > traitors blade > shadow of what was lost
Imo that’s a quick power ranking

>>14370829
Trust me. Akka is the most sympathetic character. Just a man searching for a purpose.

>>14371453
How about reading something with QUALITY?

>>14371731
I'll take some suggestions if you have any

I need some more well written Amazon fair.
I'm running low good self published books. Authors are now doing harems in cultivation novels (like if expelling all that chi and essence into mana whores will make you stronger, instead of weakening your base).

>>14371769
Only self-published books I've read that had any quality to them at all were "The Written" by Ben Galley and the "Galaxy's Edge" series by Anspach and Cole, but to be honest with you I'd imagine they're acquired taste kind of books and therefore not for everyone. They're at least competently written if nothing else, but you might find them a tad derivative of better works, with GE in particular essentially being Star Wars from Stormtroopers/Smugglers/Bounty Hunters perspective(s)

Read this last night during a lull at the job. Gives me some Heinlein and a dash of Douglas Adam's vibes. Don't wanna spoil too much but it shares some concepts with Keith Laumers Bolo books. Best way to describe it is a hard science civilization dealing with a universe that has pop scifi things going on.

>>14371901
I'll give it a whirl

gotta say, the new Children of Blood and Bone book is pretty lit. it's anime as fuck but it captures my sense of wonder in a way nothing else has since The Kingdom of Copper.

>>14371420
> Eva Green
> submissive
While I heartily approve of the picture she seems more like the woman who would be doing the dominating. Definitely some ball stamping as punishment in her repertoire.

>>14371936
>Children of Blood and Bone
Never heard of it 'til now, but is it actually good? Brief Google search makes it sound kind of shit desu

>>14371943
Nah bro, the haughtiness is just an act. She just wants someone to treat her like a piece of meat.

>>14371901
>war is tough on an older weapon of mass destruction

>>14372038
>>14371943
>ball stamping
>treat her like a piece of meat
Why don't you cumbrains fap before posting? Your built up hormones from your last fap is already influencing your posting.

>>14371943
>>14372038
>>14372069
Fucking hell. You're all wrong. I have thousands of eva green pics. Stop talking about her. You have no idea.

>>14372069
I don't need to fap I just visited your mother last night.

>>14372006
its pretty decent, though it takes a chapter or two to come into its own. just a heads up, it is YA, but it doesn't give you the feeling that you're reading a YA novel once it gets going.

the african-inspired setting is a godsend for people who are bored of euroshit. even old tropes feel fresher with a change of scenery, but it helps that the author gets creative with it

>>14372089
Any suggestions for a fantasy book like womb?

Any good books that are horror-scifi or horror-fantasy? Most books of these two genres usually are not horror or scary in nature. Sure they have spooky parts or some dark themes but nothing scifi or fantasy with a very strong spook or horror factor to it. If you have Dead Space on Xbox or PC then that would be a good example of what im looking for. Or a fantasy setting where instead of some ancient evil threatens the land where armies and wizards have to fight it, its some sort of biological threat.

Im just tired of the same thing over and over again. I do enjoy it but something new would be nice.

>>14372140
Decent film. Unfortunately not.

>tfw rereading Blindsight
>tfw ~70% through Desolate Era
>Terror fucking Starsea

>>14370788
top 5 preliminary results:

1 dune
2 Lord of the Rings
2 asoiaf
4 Roadside Picnic
4 Hyperion
4 botns

>>14372265
That sounds like you have 3 voters in total

>>14372300
there are 10 voters (1 troll)

Nigga what the fuck is Stormlight Archive? And what the fuck is Sanderson in general? I finished the first Mistborn thought it was crap. Heard Mistborn is worth a gander so I've been listening to an audiobook to see whether it's worth it to read and it unironically sounds like YA.
>light eyes dark eyes
>crappy names
>anime tier characterization
>witty dialogue that belongs on a badly subbed shonen
Fuck you fantasy fags I'll go back to reading actual literature

>>14372356
Yeah, and? Why are you whining to us about it when you obviously haven't listened to our opinions on Sanderguy?

>>14372144
The Second Apocalpyse kinda, also Blindsight somewhat

>>14372322
So that's 45 in total if they were all unique, 1 vote each. Probably a lot of overlap though.

>>14372322
Can I ask how exactly you know it was a troll, or was it simply because they picked books you didn't like?

>>14372440
the point is to get a lot of overlap in order to rank them. you can't rank something if each entry has the same (1) vote.

>>14372450
see pic related

>>14372265
Is that 4 votes, 3 votes, and 2 votes?

>>14372356
we keep telling you sanderson is a hack.
you have no one but yourself to blame.

>>14370423
Where do you guys pirate your audiobooks from?

Any recommendations?

>>14372659
No, that's
1st place
2nd place
2nd place
4th place
4th place
4th place

>top 5
>lists 6
>not a 5th place

>>14372880
Mobilism doesn’t have everything?

>>14372144
Karl Edward Wagner's Night Winds would be right up your alley

Who are the best Sword and Sorcery authors other than Robert E Howard and Jack Vance?

Which is your favorite, /lit/?

>>14373216
This guy >>14373215 read his Kane novels

>>14373227
Dead house gates, easily. Midnight tides being a close second.

>>14373227
Midnight Tides, fuck you niggers

>>14372880
audiobookbay has pretty much everything. mobilims has some but its mainly focused on ebooks. then theres bibliotik and myanonamouse. which are private trackers but its easy to get in. theyre mostly used for old stuff but honestly their mentalites are bad. if you cant find something make a request on audiobook bay itll be fullfiled in a day or two anyways.

>tfw I got dubs and no one checked them

>>14371769
Don't you faggots read? Recommend me new self pubbed books.

>>14372356
>posting this in the largest anti-sanderson community on the known web

>>14373425
>Don't you faggots read?
Yes?
>Recommend me new self pubbed books.
How is this related?

>>14373233
Thanks

>>14372144
Rogue Moon

>>14373307
>>14373177
Thanks guys.

I'm specifically looking for the Victor Bevine et. al. reading of Hyperion. ABB seems to have it as a part of a big collection. I've heard it's pretty good and figured it'd be a good introduction to audiobooks.

Any suggestions for some good /sffg/ listening?

>reading a random novel from 1984 because I put it on my kindle years ago after seeing it in some sword and sorcery list
>it ends up being a better, more politically radical, take on feminist fantasy than most of the books deliberately branded as that today.
I've never really thought about it much before but it is interesting how a lot of fantasy/ya marketing kinda relies upon forgetting/ignoring stuff that's already been written.
I'm not a type that's adverse to "woke" fiction or anything but so much of the new stuff that gets pushed by the publishing industry is much safer than the books that already exist and thus less interesting.

>>14371769
we are bob is the second worst book I've ever read

>>14374064
I dropped we are bob pretty fast
I think it was somewhere in the first book when he referred to explosives as “volatiles”

>>14374075
I got to a bit after the point where he was giving every version of himself homer simpson avis or something ad decided that there was no possible way it could keep my interest.

>>14371769
>not "my personal recommendations"
>pretending to be /sffg/ consensus

>>14374024
Indeed, if people don't forget, then can't sell the same story repackaged over and over again.

>>14373274
Midnight tides is based as fuck, Trull is the man.

>>14370423
Is Sarah J Maas' books worth reading?

>>14374024
Does the book talk about hating men?

>>14374408
Are you a teenage girl?
If not, no.

>>14374408
>reading female authors
No, her books are not worth reading.

>>14374408
asl?

>>14374408
kek

>>14374408
if you want high fantasy with romance and sex scenes sure

but she does this infuriating thing where she elevates the concept of fey/elf 'true mate' bonds above the kind of love humans are capable of. it comes off as rather misanthropic since things like arguments and quarrels are for us poor mortals since we aren't capable of true love.

she fixes it later on after people complained about it

>>14374451
Agatha Christie is great, nerd.

>>14374459
28/f/Dallas

>>14374408
If you like big elf dicks pumping the female protags full of furry cum then sure.

>>14374408
>>14374449
>>14374451
>>14374459
>>14374463
>>14374464
>>14374477
yikes

>>14374477
Elves aren't furry?

next to no new releases this month, might finally read some classics of the genre after managing to avoid them entirely all year

>>14374509
Read Glory Road by Robert Heinlein.

>>14374484
kek, /lit/ is a very slow board. so by the amount and frequency of replies contrasted with the relative obscurity of this author I can only surmise that /sffg/ is either
A. full of teen girls or
B. lonely virgins who read such books by self inserting as the heroine to vicariously experience love, jerking off at the sex scenes, and then viciously denying it

occams razor dictates I choose /b/

>>14374555
It's actually C. She's been a thread meme for like 3 years

why are cuckcels so triggered by Jesmin?

>>14374575
I read her acclaimed trilogy and hated it?

Anyone listen to Graphic Audio before?

I really wish we could crowd source radio drama like audiobooks like that for public domain stuff. Synchronized music, sound effects, ensemble cast of volunteer voice actors

>>14372144
look here faggot >>14371580

>>14374176
Are you gay or high? Nothing is a sffg consensus, nothing. I don't okay a lot of the dinoshit you pseuds spew (especially Vance) yet you still say "sffg's like him".
Neck yourself.

>>14374575
I don’t know, why could that possibly be that people don’t like her?

>>14374815
I genuinely don't know. Sounds fucking based to me

>>14374802
>Nothing is a sffg consensus, nothing.
I agree, which isn't why the image shouldn't say "SFFG's"

>>14374939
Make your own chart then. I did, anon did, and you should.

>new hamilton is out
>oh great were back to chapter long sex scenes
>this time with ovulating males in their tranny cycle
what the fuck peter, this is neutronium alchemist bad

There are a lot of stories about technology being introduced in fantasy settings typically in portal fantasy but are there any reversals of this stereotype?
For example a wizard suddenly showing up in modern times? I don't mean urban fantasy by that but id be interested how some sort of wizard from another world would live in modern society.

>tfw in the 3 months since I lost all my passion for my story I managed to write > 50,000 words

eyy...

I hate myself...

>>14375033
jonathan strange & mr norrell. magic comes back to victorian england.

>>14374555
Search her name in the archives. She has been forced memed here for years, when people actually read it to shut up the shill, we saw how shit it was. Shill stopped coming around after that.
She a cute slampiggie though.

>>14375091
i watched the show and it was meh
how much better is the book

>>14375091
Not quite what i meant also I've read those before.

>>14375033
Yes there are. No, I can't name them off the top of my head.
Jonathan strange like anon said kinda works, but there are others.
acts of caine has that in the ending
Anything like that will have some local ancient order that will know that the person is a wizard, even if the order themselves don't have magic.

>>14375099
>Be a uniquely capricious, whimsical, amoral but also a genuinely well-intentioned character
>The TV adaptation retards turns you into an EPIK SPOOKIE BOOGIE MACHIAVELLIAN villain because television watchers are too retarded for good characters
Is there a more cucked character than the Gentleman with the Thistle-down hair? All he wanted was to do something nice for Stephen and to buy some nice carpets.

>>14375033
>wizard from another world would live in modern society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awyDAekUc_8

>>14375033
Merlin comes back in That Hideous Strength.

>>14375033
Cultivation chat group

>>14375173
No Chinkshit or Web novels.

>>14374815
It will have zero impact on his legacy. That woman is delusional. It just gives him more of a cultural impact.

recommend a fantasy with indepth magical system and a protagonist with a hacker like curiosity who can deconstruct it and use it like nobody else can

kind of like snape did as a student (but not that autismo HP fanfic about the scientific method)

>>14375575
the second imager trilogy is basically about a guy working out how to weaponize his hyper specific magic

>>14375583
ty

Did Scott Lynch ever say he'll cover the magic system in depth in Thorns?

because I just realized Locke Lamorra's past self is exactly what I was thinking of

>>14375595
scott "fuck my wife" lynch isn't competent enough to cover anything in depth

>>14370423
I read Red Mars and I liked it. Not crazy about some of the author's politics, but I guess it's mostly minor quibbles.

Do you guys like litrpg? What are your thoughts and suggestions?

>>14375635
>scott "fuck my wife" lynch
explain this meme to me

>>14375815
>Do you guys like litrpg?
No
>What are your thoughts and suggestions?
never mention them again

>>14371657
I've almost finished the second book. You were right. Akka did nothing wrong.

>>14375815
>Do you guys like litrpg?
No. Not really.

>What are your thoughts and suggestions?
Look at >>14371769

>>14375815
Most litrpg authors depend too much on huge, meaningless stat pages to pad out their work and milk money from kindle unlimited. The best ones are the ones that acknowledge mechanics, but aren’t hyper focused on huge sprawling number systems. Wraith’s haunt is propabbly the best litrpg series out there.

Also they really need to turn down the meme spamming pop culture references for Christ’s sake.

>>14375988
>Wraith’s haunt
This looks good. Ill check it out, Thanks fren. Ill be weary of all the meme stuff and autistic number crunching in other interesting books.

>>14372356
>posting this in a general where "sanderfag a hack" is usually the first post

>>14375815
Worth the candle is the only one that is genuinely good
I liked Delve as well, but that's because I am a degenerate

>>14375575
unironically prince of nothing

>>14375815
litrpg has almost destroyed this board

Just finished pic related series. Very good first 2 books start and very boring later. The final boss in book 5 is literally defeated with a gimmick making the rest of the book worthless.

>>14372356
lol no one suggested you read sanderson in this general. take that to reddit

>>14361678
Fire Upon the Deep has some good shit in it.

>>14375988
>Wraith’s haunt is propabbly the best litrpg series out there.
No.

>>14376640

>>14374575
Nice try, nigcel. She's a shit writer who's only praised because she's a fat, ugly, black bitch.

>>14377140
>>>/pol/

Has anyone read Children of Time? Is it worth a read?

>>14377280
>>>/lgbt/

New here.
What are the main problems with sanderson?

>>14377696
can't write women but insists on making them protags
can't write romance but puts it in every book
whole style is copying battle shounen so if you're familiar with that it's very samey
turns magic (and lore) into neat little lists of well defined powers
multi-protag books suffer from only having 1 or 2 really interesting PoVs

>>14376993
Name a better one

>>14378110
imagine getting bullied off of /lit/ onto twitter and then coming back here to plug your shite

>>14378125
How'd he get bullied off of /lit?
No; I just thought the essay was good

almost done with children of virtue and vengeance. its anime as fuck, even moreso than the original, but it's really enjoyable.

that said, the entire plot seems to be driven by the POV characters rapidly flip-flopping on war/peace out of synch with each other, and just plain fucking misunderstandings. every time one tries to negotiate, the other tries to attack then calms down and gives peace a chance only to be hit with retaliation. any time they agree for five minutes the main villain attacks and frames one of them. I can't tell if this is bad writing or just a painfully accurate depiction of how war happens

>>14376523
cant find those two books
>>14376630
How? What happened?
>>14376993
Why no?

>>14378296
>reading nig authors nig books with nig women on the cover
powerful

Any good releases in the last couple years? Haven't kept up.

>>14374815
Since when is shitting on a hack writer something /sffg/ is against?

>lads just trying to have a good time
>seething roasties do everything in their power to stop them
What did Robert Jordan mean by this?

>>14378518
>b-but lovecraft is a hack!!!!!
Fuck off with your bullshit that every leftist parrots. Lovecraft is more influential than jemisin, Jonathan Howard or whoever else tries to co-opt his work. It’s embarrassing how upset you fucks get about it, just because lovecraft didn’t like your pet niggers. Its so tiresome.

>>14378541
wait until all the women get bbc later in the books

>>14378329
cool opinion anon! can I see your penis?

>>14378612
pervert

>>14378609
huh? I don't remember that. I think 4ch is warping your brain.

>>14372265

I refuse to accept BotNS doesn't end up top 5.

Poster who describes books as "anime" mostly do so because that's they are mostly familiar with and what they have as mental references. It doesn't mean it's an accurate description of the book.

>>14376640
Unironically how did you make it through book 2? The first 3/4ths of book 1 were solid when the MC was this jaded kid fucking shit up. Then the time skip and it turns to shit. I got 40 pages into book 2 and it was just a bunch of boring sand niggers doing nothing in the desert. Read the amazon reviews which were overwhelmingly negative and dropped that shit.

rec me reads where protagonist turns evil as the story progresses

>>14378541
jordan seems like a guy that loved facesitting

>>14379217
Bakker
just kidding, he was evil from the start

>>14378740
it's still top 5. updated list:

1 dune
2 book of the new sun
3 lord of the rings
3 hyperion
5 asoiaf

/sffg/ SURVEY:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdF_pedZpXbbJMtaOzgsckqxm6I_Yot2ozXdLeULXv-fI2dJA/viewform?usp=sf_link

>>14372144
>Any good books that are horror-scifi
Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo.

>>14373216
>Who are the best Sword and Sorcery authors other than Robert E Howard and Jack Vance?
Fritz Leiber with his Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser series

>>14375033
>a wizard suddenly showing up in modern times?
Chase the Morning by Michael Scott Rohan has quite a lot of that.

>>14377293
>Has anyone read Children of Time? Is it worth a read?
Yes, the parts about the spiders developing a civilization and fighting the army ants with guile and tricks are pretty great.

>>14372356
>Gets suggestions of books to read in reddit
>Gets pissed at /lit

>>14371420
Practically any novel written before 1985.

I'm going through The Moontide books by David Hair right now, it's hacky as fuck, all the villains are mustache twirlers, everyone is either fucking or killing everyone else and it's just constant cliffhangers but it's fucking great, really entertaining.

>>14377293
Definitely. Thanks for the reminder. I really need to get the sequel for Xmas.

Probably an extremely idiotic question but how important is a good cover to you buying, enjoying and keeping a book? Buying and keeping are probably fairly obvious but I find books with crap covers tend to be crap reads as well, though the reverse isn't necessarily true, unfortunately

>>14380716
I enjoy paperback more than hard cover, they feel more earthy? I feel like a scribe with such tattered and small book, researching in some old forgotten tome.

>>14380763
Yeah, paperback is my preference too. The fact that they're generally cheaper helps, but dust jackets trigger my autism something fierce

>>14380716
>>14380763
>>14380835
Binding-wise: Library > Paperback > Hardback
Art-wise I'll tend to look for an older edition if a new editions cover art is particularly hideous, like the current Fantasy Masterworks stuff and the current Mieville covers; I'm ready to be done with minimalism.

Any books with a cowboy/frontier like society in space/the moon/other planets?

>>14380993
Martian Chronicles

>>14381008
As much as an important contribution to sci-fi as it was... perhaps reccomend me something that isn't literally 70 years old.

>>14378604
>this guy was racist so that means his work is good!

>>14381051
At least that means he was smart enough to recognize patterns and bold enough to defy the current in the literary world even in that time to speak about what was clear as day.

How come women write the best Urban Fantasy?

Should I be constantly looking to the glossary while reading dune? I may just be a brainlet, but after reading through the second chapter where the bad guys explain their masterplan, I dont even really understand what the fuck they're doing. Partly because of all the madeup words. Is it best to just power through blind?

>>14381069
You know Lovecraft repented in the end, right? He was a basement dweller (like you pollies) and thats how he became racist. Never interacted with anyone other than his mother.

>>14373227
reaper's gale

>>14381080
That's why glossaries exist. If you can't understand the word from it's context then you look it up.

>>14381073
She fucked up in the end. Instead of publishing what she had, she rewrote her work to match the most vocal minority readers, and lost the trust of all her readers, me included.

Read Red Sister

>>14381103
Going by the reviews that doesn't seem to be the majority opinion. Either way that's still 12+ books that are great.

btw the series is continuing. Book 14 is due out the middle of next year.

>>14381126
> Book 14 is due out
Good. That time travel series she attempted after The Hollows finished was awful.

>>14381087
I've interacted with way too many muds, way more than the average tolerant rich White college kid.

Anyone ever heard of Sol Arbiter? Would you recommend it? It doesn't have to be genre-defining or anything, just a good read will do

>>14381126
>btw the series is continuing. Book 14 is due out the middle of next year
Yea. She had to return to the hollow's world because the books she tried to write after happy everafter flopped.
I'm not reading book 14, just like how I didn't read her time travel shit. And to think I used to read anything of hers, and she used to get tens of thousands of reading on goodreads. She dun goofed.

>>14381103
> Instead of publishing what she had, she rewrote her work to match the most vocal minority readers
citation needed

>>14381126
>>14381323
>>14381073
>>14381394

You guys really read 10+ books of of womens romance airport trash lit? Soccer moms read this junk while their kids are at school and husbands are working.

>>14381401
Women dont read fantasy

>>14381401
I went through an Urban Fantasy phase. There's more romance in Dresden Files than the Hollows Series.

>>14381401
>You guys really read...?
Yes, we do.

>>14381414
I'm vex I didn't see ivy get dicked.

>>14381408
>w-women don't read/buy anything
>go into a bookstore, 99% of the sffg there is all YA chick lit because it's financially the most profitable thing and that's why even Sanderson is writing YA these days
(lol

>>14381425
Anon, it is well known here that men don't read. That's why the population here skews the way it does.

>>14381442
Extremely unpopular anime
>At least 200 posts on /a/
Popular book
>It's lucky if it gets 1-3 posts on /sffg/ and 5 paid shill reviews on goodreads
Dead board. Dead general.

>>14381401
You're confusing the teen YA stuff with the better UF series.

>>14381488
There are a lot more books than animated japanese trash. A lot of us don't even read the same things.

>>14381073
Best urban fantasy I've read was one with a gay romance lol

>>14381051
No brainlet. His work is good because it’s still being aped almost 100 years later and defined an entire horror subgenre. Meanwhile these faggots trying to ruin his legacy will be forgotten by the end of the next decade

is this worth reading?

>>14381819
Foster is generally okay. Read it years ago but don't remember anything particular.

>>14381637
I'm not that surprised. Name?

Top 5 I can think of right now, in no particular order, are Anita Blake (pre-smut), Dresden Files, Jane Yellowrock, The Hollows, Mercy Thompson (some romance in this one) - only one male author.

Any good zombie books or SHTF stuff where no one is fucking retarded, and its realistic?

>>14381652
>>14378604

Watching people pretend Lovecraft's source material is actually good and not tedious, fuckawful purple prose, unseasoned potato characters, and a few genuinely interesting bits like the idea of cosmicism is a painful thing to watch the culture war encourage. If anybody actually wrote like the man himself today instead of taking liberally scraping off the bad shit of lovecraftian fiction, you'd be laughing at how terrible it was.

>>14381899
>zombie books
>realistic

>>14381819
>star wars
>worth reading

>>14378100
>I haven't read much
>plz rec me books
The archives and charts are filled with shitrpg books that are better than Hugo's work

>>14378324
How are you unable to type in "worth the candle book" into your search engine of choice?

>>14373227
I'm partial to Memories of Ice
rip Itkovian

>>14381869
The Last Sun, just read the sequel too and it was also good.
Setting a book in a fantasy city works and focusing on building up that world works so much better than just setting it in a generic irl megacity

>>14373227
>The Crippled God
The title makes me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnvuuQ4PB-8

About to study for exams for a couple of weeks. Which of these two books should I read during my breaks?

I'm about to study for exams for a couple of weeks. Which of these two books should I read during my breaks?

>>14383681
Neither. You're clearly a pseud.

>>14371769
I didn't realize how picky I was with covers. If I ever self published I'd want to drop like 400 bucks on a commission to avoid turning people off the way most of these covers turn me off of what might be great stories.

>>14383940
Easiest way to have a decent cover is to just go with well made photograph of something related to your book and buy the license.

>>14383085
>can’t come up with an answer
>wh-what you can’t tell? The answer should be obvious

>>14383578

Have we finally purged ourselves?
Will webnovels now have their own general?

>>14384097
Anon you tried that months ago. Making a general with chink shit, it didn't work.
You think making a haremshit novel general will work?
I was here before you, and I will not leave because you want it.

>>14384097
>condescending title
Bad try

>>14384097
>bottom of the barrel tier self published novels

>>14378541
The only two women whom Jordan interacted with extensively in his entire life were his mother and his wife. You can get a pretty good idea what these women were like from reading WoT, I suspect.

>>14381819
Nah, read Shadows of the Empire instead or X-Wing if you want the real Star Wars kino.

Fuck me I just finished the second book of the Powder Mage trilogy and I fucking loved it so far. I've been starting and dropping series ever since I finished Dune earlier this year, and so far nothing gripped me as much. Tell me we'll get a satisfying end.

Anyway I blitzed through, so I figure I'll be done by the end of the weekend. What other series can I pick up and just go into it as easily? I swear I started and dropped Malazan like 5 times.

>>14383636
Wtf is this
I love it

>>14384754
Such good taste, as expected of a vergil bro.

>>14384832
Death in June
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BSLsAwO9LI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_eDg_pFpfE

>>14384754
There’s a sequel series to powder mage that just finished. Takes place about 20 years later. They both have solid endings.

Reminder Ka-poel best girl

>>14384754
>Tell me we'll get a satisfying end.
yes. its actually has a great ending.

Friends, there's an unironic harem thread in /outerlit/.
I am not sure what to make out of this, but certain moments of being bullied by Raskolnikov's spawn flash before my eyes.

>>14377004
now that you mentioned it, the princes do look like some weird looking ET with gains.

>>14384832
>>14383636
>>14384883
>>>/mu/tants

>>14385046
See >>14384097

learn to read the thread before you post

>>14385095
I am sorry, daddy

>scaled
Women aren't ashamed to throw their fetish out there.

>>14385113
Good girl.

>>14373233
Tried to read Kane 1. SOOOOO BORIIIING that i dropped it after 20 pages or so...

>>14385131
i'm writing something similar but with a human dude and a female dragon

>>14385131
Already done 20 years ago by a a really unstable japanese

Post /vampire/ lit.

>>14385131
Give all the smut /sffg/ mentions neither are men.

very mixed about this, and i loved the lies of locke lamora. the switch to a new plotline in the middle felt weird, the ending was just kind of boring, and stragos wasn't that interesting. i'm not planning on reading it yet, but should i ever come back to this series for republic of thieves?

>>14385934
no, republic of thieves is even worse

>>14385934
>>14386030
How did it get worse, spoiler free if you can and isnt too much trouble. Im halfway into lies and am liking it so far

Anyone have any light and/or funny scifi? blindsight bummed me out a little, need to freshen up

>>14386126
Will pulpy/trashy stuff do? Or do you want something more substantial?

This book was not good. 1/5 stars, Read something else.

>>14386076
i really liked the big heist stuff in lies, with all of locke's trickery. red seas starts out like that and i was enjoying it alot, but a new plotline starts in the middle and takes you away from that for awhile (for the worse). then the resolution of the heist plotline and the other one both weren't really that satisfying.

>>14386184
substantial is always nice but beggars cant be choosers. that, and i a bit ashamed to admit that I have read most of what b.v. larson has put out so my garbage tolerance is high

>>14386246
Well, I'd recommend what I'm reading right now; The Messenger by Chaney and Maggert. It's definitely in the pulpy/trashy side of things, but hey, if you like mechs with sentient AI piloted by a dashing rogue attempting to stop what is essentially the Reapers from Mass Effect, then by all means read away. Substantial is a bit trickier, and I have shit taste anyway. Can't think of any funny sci-fi either, sorry

>>14371943

No, youre all wrong, as she only wants MY dick. Sorry inzelz!

>>14386430
Can you stop spamming this shit? It not funny.
if you wanted a (you), here.

The other thread is much more active and better. This thread is dead and terrible and should never be made again. That thread is ascendant. This thread is condemned.

>>14386620
Yea. 37 fags posting about bottom bin harem novels.
While we have 101 posting about glorious top tier self pubbed master race.

>>14386638
>37 fags posting about bottom bin harem novels
brb

>>14385443

>120 posts in 12 hours, 10 posts per hour
>48 points in 12 hours, 4 posts per hour
Big difference

>>14386753
almost like people in here spend time actually reading books

Been reading birth of the demonic sword and really enjoying the mc.
Any western fantasy where the main character seeks strength for survival rather than to be a hero?

>>14374024
>how sharper than a wizards spell is the wrath of a woman unmanned!

Fucking hell.

>>14371901
34% of the book and still no plot. It's ALL exposition.

>>14385934
I liked the next book more mainly because Sabetha backstory. I want to shag her

>>14387417
thanks for the insight coomer

/sffg/, I have a problem. I've got a cast of quirky characters and a relatively normal MC, but unfortunately, all the character dynamics are working backwards. Because the MC is driving the plot, it's usually the goofy characters reacting to him rather than the other way around, but because he also knows the least about the setting, he can't act as the voice of reason.

As a result, the whole thing is just massively unfunny even though all the characters have enormous comedic potential. I'm not sure how to salvage it

>>14385443
Fevre Dream is good shit

Welp, time to throw away his books now. He's a tranny lover.

>>14387916
stay mad harry potter fan

>>14387925
You'll never be a woman

>>14387943
and you'll never have one. Your point?

>>14387916
s e e t h i n g

>>14387879
>I've got a cast of quirky characters and a relatively normal MC, but unfortunately, all the character dynamics are working backwards. Because the MC is driving the plot, it's usually the goofy characters reacting to him rather than the other way around, but because he also knows the least about the setting, he can't act as the voice of reason.

It seems fine for the side-characters to react to the MC ability to move the plot forward. They are SIDE characters for a reason. But since you seem like you want more of an ensemble thing going on, you should have some of the more cartoonish characters make up for the deficients of the too straight-lace MC. This way, the MC can act as a potential collective foil.

>>14388202
So, there's a main quartet that are kind of like that. The MC, two weirdos who are also the most competent members of the group, and a third character who I'm still figuring out how to play off. She's supposed to be more timid and useless, less zany, but it's kind of hard to include her without making her feel like a load the other characters have to carry around.

Really, I think I understand how the other characters are meant to act. it's more an issue of finding ways to play out the dynamic. weirdo #1 is the more proactive, outgoing and idiotic of the group, while also simultaneously being the most knowledgable. Honestly, I know from experience she's perfect protagonist material, but she's not the MC and she's not in every scene, and to be honest she doesn't even have a lot of individual agency within the story. Putting the focus on her would require me to reconsider a lot of the story.

weirdo #2 is easier to some extent, because he's more conniving, and stays out of the focus until it's time to pull something. That said, the moving setting doesn't give him much of an opportunity for shenanigans, because it requires a certain amount of environmental control and prep time. It also means it's harder to focus on him when he needs to be the focus

The last girl is probably the only one with solid interactions. It's just a matter of making her bearable

>>14387916
>kneel gay man
>likes trannies

Going through Lyonesse right now. Pure bliss for my brain.

What constitutes as good SF&F for you /sffg/?

>>14388997
I finished Suldrun's Garden recently and I adored about 90% of it. I found it somewhat unbelievable that Glyneth wouldn't think of release Shimrod's horses. Even if they didn't manage to kill Carfilhiot they would have probably provided enough opportunity to escape

>>14383681
Becoming by Michelle Obama

>>14371453
The Shadow of What was Lost is pretty good once you get past the poorly written beginning.
>>14374977
Neutronium Alchemist is a pretty dope name, though. Is it any good?
>>14375815
>explain this meme to me
His wife went off him.
>>14381408
sHUT UP

>>14374470
> to go back to the 30s to prove the point
Yikes

>>14387916
(((Gaiman)))

>>14387916
>oh no, why wouldn't he hang himself from this neat public noose we've just strung for him
fucking chang

What you fags reading?
Christmas is Wednesday and I feel nothing.

>>14389409
finishing off stuff so I hit 80 books on the year, I'll post if any of it is good, probably gonna finish lies of descent and then either updraft or poppy war since I left both of those books with like 50 pages left. After that I'm gonna go back to Ninth House since that started well.
previous christmases I got really into stuff and iirc read loads of discworld and robin hobb but after the end of a year of reading lots of new stuff I'm finding it hard to get hooked by stuff.

Wouldn't call it burn out but my pace of reading fell off so hard from like October onwards after exhausting all the stuff I was really interested in reading.

>>14387879
>good
>George R.R. Martin
pick one

>>14389409
This >>14385443 book's sequel. The first was fun so i started the second.

>>14386126
Go Dresden Files or check Shayne Silvers' stuff. They will cheer you up for sure!

>>14372880
What travesty.

>>14388024
His point is that you need to go back.

>>14389132
Becoming a tranny

>>14387916
Of course he supports trans rights, have you read sandman? the main character of one arc is a tranny and her divorced friend

>>14389182
>His wife went off him.
What

>>14389409
Picking through Perdido Street Station so that I can make it through the Scar, which I've heard is immensely better. I've already dumped like 10 hours into Perdido, so my dumb ass is falling for the sunken cost fallacy. I also want to finish at least one more book before the year ends.

>>14387916
I don't know whether Kneel, Gayman actually cares about troons, but I do know that he wants to ensure his supply of twentysomething fucktoys is uninterrupted.

>>14389241
Just because someone asks you a question doesn't mean you have to respond.

>>14389918
I'll make sure to never read Sandman then.

>>14390457
yeah it'd probably get in the way of your reading harry potter time

>>14390522
>Implying I'd read that either

>>14371453
First law series? I liked it alot. Joe abercrombie

The harem trash thread is taking our (you)s, we are on page 9.

aah, someone recommended wolf in shadow a month or two ago
thanks lad, that was such an enjoyable and satisfying read. no great literature for sure, but damn was it nice reading

Thoughts on Octavia E. Butler?

>>14391248
its a better thread than this one desu

Do you think that telekinesis, visions, premonition that characterized works of great soft sci-fi authors like Herbert and Dick can be married with a more science-oriented sci-fi? It always takes me out from a setting - it's not exactly psychological since it always serves quite utilitarian purpose.

Also, do you think that modern authors mainly quit on depicting it?

>>14387916
He's a literal cuck anyway.

>>14391789
>He's a literal cuck anyway.
How so?

>>14391841
Look it up in the dictionary.

>>14391908
I know what cuck is but what makes him one, people use the word so loosely and apply it to everything, including the word literally which now also means figuratively in the dictionary. Which makes the dictionary cucked.

You see?

>>14391979
Don't be a cuck.

Wtf, we on page 10.
Goodnight sffg. This is the end.

>>14393336
all it took was a haremshit thread to kill this general. maybe this is for the best.

All Becomes Zero

>>14391594
When I was reading golden age short stories I was constantly seeing psychic/psionic stuff. Certainly seems to much less now. Just a feature of the times, same with stuff now.

>>14393344
>>14391396
>>14391248
>>14386638
>>14386638
and various other posts
It doesn't matter if someone doesn't keep making the thread.

>>14393385
its called handjob arms.

>>14381073
They don't. They just write the ones you prefer.

>>14393344
Well our new slave OP was too autistic for the job. He fucked over the OP until it was dry and boring, and no one wanted to look.
He also stopped with the OP questions and theme.

It's probably for the best. /lit/ is dead and filled with pol, jesuscucks and pseuds who think thier off topic bottom barrel logic actually mean something.
RIP. 5 years of distractions, and I got some good books out of it.

Should I continue if I was kind of underwhelmed/lukewarm by the first book? Does it get better or worse?

>>14393414
I was holding off posting at the end of thread desu. We've always been a dumpster fire.

at this point I'm rereading watts, banks and lem over and over again because nothing else strikes my fancy
send help

>moaning about the thread being dead when everyone not autistic is doing stuff for christmas

>>14393414
For your sake, you probably ought to leave and never come back.

>>14393465
vandermeer. inb4 you've read him and hated him idk what you've already tried i can't read your mind.

>>14393465
You might like these ones in a similar vein:
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky's Doomed City (the Noon Universe books are amazing but the translation is incredibly shiddy!)
Alastair Reynolds' Chasm City
Asimov's Foundation series
Phillip K. Dick's The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch or Ubik

Scifi with a greater side of mystery:
Jasper Fforde's Early Riser or Shades of Grey
Tamsyn Muir's Gideon the Ninth

>>14393432

>>14393432
In my opinion each book gets better. But I got hooked by chapter 7 or 8 in book 1. It's more of the same wondering around but the actual conflicts are more interesting. And you put together more pieces of the puzzle each book

NEW THREAD
>>14393944
NEW THREAD