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Holy fuck. Anyone else read this?

>> No.14388691

gib tl;dr now

>> No.14388692

skimmed it, was pseud gibberish

>> No.14388701
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>>14388692
Shut up bitch. This thread is for those that have read the book.

>> No.14388715

What is this? What is it about?

>> No.14388729

based I want to read this so bad but it looks really hard

>> No.14388740

>>14388687
meme

>urbanomic
double meme

>> No.14388752

>>14388687
daily reminder to stay away from urbanomic shit

>> No.14388755
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>>14388729
True, it’s not an easy read but this is probably the greatest book of the decade.
>>14388740
>>14388752
How hard did you get filtered by the very first page?

>> No.14388758

>>14388687
what the fuck is that title about, what the fuck is the book cover about, what the fuck does "catastrophism" even mean, why would it be spinal and why would its history be secret? and what the hell kind of name is "moynihan", that sounds like a fake name
none of this is making any sense

>> No.14388772

>>14388755
lmfao what a fountain of pseudery, ontogenesis is the right word

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>>14388758
Unless you have read the Greeks this will make no sense to you. Other prerequisites include Descartes and Hegel.

>> No.14388781

>>14388755
Recapitulation theory is debunked though. Typical pseudoscience.

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>>14388772
Don’t pollute this thread with your insipid anti intellectualism. Stay filtered you utter scumfuck.

>> No.14388792

>>14388783
>don't make fun of my alchemy book, it's just as relevant as hard science you just don't get it!!!!
nice show and tell thread retard. now speak on the text if you can.

>> No.14388805

>>14388792
M8 that's like asking to speak on Shakespeare. Your genre fiction thread is up and to the left.

>> No.14388807

>>14388687
I have noting to say other than that title is metal as fuck.

>> No.14388823

>>14388805
>i can't actually talk about the book i just wanted to post some cringey pseud photos
This book is now officially hack fraud /x/ tier, good job numbnuts.

Try reading some real philosophy kiddo.

>> No.14388830

>"reee fucking standing on two legs" the book
Epic stuff OP. Feeling smug about yourself is certainly in order now.

>> No.14388833

>>14388823
Honestly sounds like you got filtered. I’ll post a PDF tomorrow

>> No.14388842

>>14388830
Cope harder worm. Read the book and you will know all about the function of a spine with regards to human history. Maybe one day you may even be reincarnated as a human, until then enjoy slithering along your belly.

>> No.14388865

>>14388842
Can you scan and upload to Libgen

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>>14388715

>> No.14388925

>>14388783
Fascinating image. Depicts a crazy amount of information from time and it's seasons to the Hindu cycles.

>> No.14388973

>>14388691
Some dude is salty he got Scoliosis and now reees about people walking upright.
So far everything I could find about this book, including the people who read it is embarrassing.

>> No.14388980

>>14388973
This is like your 5th post ITT. Why don't you go read the book you utter moron? SC is a masterpiece.

>> No.14389018

>>14388980
Why don't you have anything substantial to write about it except: "read the book guys. If you haven't you are a brainlet unlike me"?
It seems like you are either unwilling or unable to go into depth about the contents of this book. When someone asks "what is it about" and you are not answering but instead only replying to the people calling it shit in form of insults, then I can only assume that you are a brainlet or the book in itself doesn't have much to offer.
And since I don't take lit recommendations from retards, I'll wait with Spinal Catastrophism until someone makes a more compelling argument for it.

>> No.14389021

>>14388912
based worm

>>14388973
>Some dude is salty he got Scoliosis and now reees about people walking upright.
so how does he walk? does he crawl around on all fours?

>> No.14389028

>>14389018
I'm guessing you're this retard here >>14388772, filtered by the first page. I don't care for your anti intellectualism, in a month or so when /lit/ gets their hands on this book you will pick it up in a desperate attempt to fit in.

>> No.14389046

>>14389028
Finger painting with neologisms isn't "intellectualism".

>> No.14389047

>>14389046
invertebrate hands made this post

>> No.14389053

>>14389021
His gait attests to an attempted recovery of the icthyophidian- or flexomotile-spine: horizontal and impulsive rather than vertical and stress-bearing.

>> No.14389054

How come nobody (I'm looking at you OP) can explain what the book is actually about instead of jacking off to pretty pictures and boasting about how difficult it is? Someone who knows what its about give me a rundown (not you OP).

>> No.14389064

>Drawing on cryptic intimations in the work of J. G. Ballard, Georges Bataille, William Burroughs, André Leroi-Gourhan, Elaine Morgan, and Friedrich Nietzsche, in the late twentieth century Daniel Barker formulated the axioms of spinal catastrophism: If human morphology, upright posture, and the possibility of language are the ramified accidents of natural history, then psychic ailments are ultimately afflictions of the spine, which itself is a scale model of biogenetic trauma, a portable map of the catastrophic events that shaped that atrocity exhibition of evolutionary traumata, the sick orthograde talking mammal.

>Tracing its provenance through the biological notions of phylogeny and “organic memory” that fueled early psychoanalysis, back into idealism, nature philosophy, and romanticism, and across multiform encounters between philosophy, psychology, biology, and geology, Thomas Moynihan reveals the historical continuity of spinal catastrophism. From psychoanalysis and myth to geology and neuroanatomy, from bioanalysis to chronopathy, from spinal colonies of proto-minds to the retroparasitism of the CNS, from “railway spine” to Elizabeth Taylor's lost gill-slits, this extravagantly comprehensive philosophical adventure uses the spinal cord as a guiding thread to rediscover forgotten pathways in modern thought. Moynihan demonstrates that, far from being an fanciful notion rendered obsolete by advances in biology, spinal catastrophism dramatizes fundamental philosophical problematics of time, identity, continuity, and the transcendental that remain central to any attempt to reconcile human experience with natural history.

>> No.14389097

>>14388687
I'm on chapter 6. So far what I recall is the beginning where he outlines how if historical contingencies shape awareness of the world then even reason itself can be thrown away as a 'cause masquerading as a reason' allowing whatever kind of theories he wants because by creating these theories he is part of the historical creation itself.(or something like that). Then he made a bunch of parallels between Kant and evolutionary history, eg. that the bounded finiteness of the globe we envision as pure space had to do with our being bidepal. Then went on to talk about the CNS creates interior 'escapes' from the immediacy of the world, and something about the awareness of time that i didnt really grasp.

>> No.14389108

>>14388687
Imagine investing any amount of time into reading a work of "philosophy" that a) had no value from the moment of its conception and from which no value can be derived, and b) will be forgotten in 6 months.

>> No.14389109

>>14388755
good grief
how did any of that shit get past an editor

>> No.14389110

>>14389108
I spend my time on 4chan, it's worth less than dirt. I read lots of random stuff like this for fun

>> No.14389118

>>14389109
>urbanomics
>editor
There was never one involved.

>> No.14389120

>>14389118
well, that would explain it
it reads like a new sokal affair

>> No.14389124

>>14389109
>>14389118
>>14389120
Why are you replying to yourself?

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>>14389124
idiot

>> No.14389140

>>14389137
looks like there are 2 retards in this thread

>> No.14389147

>>14389109
It's by design. In all honesty it was probably more intelligible prior to the editorial process.

>> No.14389173

>>14389109
That's the foreword by Iain Hamilton Grant, supposed to sell the book a bit more, yet ironically it's more obfuscatory than the book itself. Grant is a Schellingian naturphilosoph, og ccru'er and initially the translator of Lyotard's Libidinal Economy. He's a smart dude but he's just flexing in this foreword.
And yes, if your editor is head-publisher Robin Mackay providing you with more ridiculous puns, this is bound to be the result.

>> No.14389174

To everyone suspicious about the book: just listen to the first part or so of this podcast https://www.urbanomic.com/podcast/spinal-landscape/
the book is genuine. Looking at a pdf from libgen, you can tell its quality just by the diagrams and the bibliography

>> No.14389221

>>14388687
Does Moynihan subscribe to de Chardin’s Omega Point theory? I see he mentioned it in this book as well as on twitter.

>> No.14389296

>>14389147
kek

>> No.14390012

Havent finished it but so far the book is a bit wordy. However from what I can gather he seems to paint a pretty interesting picture on the physical form that organisms take and their constant inward/outward struggle against the stress of the environment. Seems like a book I'll need to digest and play with. They are fascinating ideas that I think require a bit more nuance to understand. However whether the claims have basis in objective reality is something I'll let someone more qualified be the judge of.

Judging it as bad/pseud when you havent actually read it, let alone understand what he's trying to say and play with the ideas is gonna make you miss out on something of potential value.

>> No.14390113

>>14388687
literally arthur avalon's the serpent power but wearing the disguise of 20th century philosophy

fucking completely 100% bullshit, anyone who reads this and takes it seriously deserves a lobotomy

>> No.14390140

>>14388687
So what the fuck is it about?
If you can't give a straightforward answer, fuck off.

>> No.14390178

>>14389054
It's just a history of the spine's influence on human thought, behavior, etc. One that is often ignored.

>> No.14390201

>>14390178
>dude, like, imagine if we didn't have feet, like, it would be so hard to do anything
>stares off into distance for a few seconds
>feet must be really important
>i think i'll write a book about feet

>> No.14390252

>>14388687
>>14390201
>>14390178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTmiFRvFXs

>> No.14390630

>>14389064
cringeworthy

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>>14388687
>multiple threads about this
>a multitude of people posting pictures that they bought it
>not one person as of yet has explained the contents of the book
>you need to be well-read to explain the book! >it cannot be explained it can only be understood!
>l-l-look at this cover, sieur, isn't the cover cool?
>l-l-look at these pictures, sieur, aren't these pictures novel?
jesus christ. i never thought i'd say it but i miss nick land. i miss zizek. fuck, i'll take the guenon spam any day of the week over this

>> No.14390794

>>14388687
>obscurantist language
>blatant plaigarism of Baudrillard without referencing him
>using "figures" to mask your shitty philosophy even more
>vague, digitally blendered, "mysterious" cover
Nietzsche, Gay Science, 25:
Or consider the hocus-pocus of mathematical form with which Spinoza clad his philosophy—really “the love of his wisdom,” to render that word fairly and squarely—in mail and mask, to strike terror at the very outset into the heart of any assailant who should dare to glance at that invincible maiden and Pallas Athena: how much personal timidity and vulnerability this masquerade of a sick hermit betrays!

>> No.14390801

>>14390012
>They are fascinating ideas that I think require a bit more nuance to understand. However whether the claims have basis in objective reality is something I'll let someone more qualified be the judge of.
can you name even ONE idea you've absorbed from this obscurantist mess?

>> No.14390807

>>14388692
The CCRU materials are the least like this, as far as I can tell.

>> No.14391062

>>14390669
But this is the same as Nick Land.

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>>14391062
>But this is the same as Nick Land.
Not at all. There been plenty of fruitful discussions over the years on Land and others in that circle (>>/lit/thread/S12056787).). Not one has yet to come from this absolute garbage though in spite of dozens of people asking for just one (1[ONE]) gestalt from the pages of that book.

>> No.14391130

>>14390801
The history of the species is encoded in the spine like geological strata

>> No.14391218

>>14388833
>>14389174
Where's the pdf?

>> No.14391243

>>14391062
Land is mentioned a whopping zero (0) times in this book.

>> No.14391271

>contributorilyist directionalityessnesslessness
Yikes.

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>>14391101
>space taoism