/lit/ - Literature

>>14361026
Not a bad take but the way he got started with the whole twitter bullshit is just retarded. If he wanted to make a video about Greek Philosophy and its parallels with now he shoudve just started like that, makes him look like hes trying to hard but hes really not. I like that he has interest in philosophy now but he should really just say it outright next time instead of leading on with a retarded lead

>>14361059
I think it's a better way to reach the most people. Most would drop out immediately without something to hook them

>>14361026
>heyyy guys. Time to put down those books and watch this vlogger I follow
>is this based or cringe?
How many times do we have to tell you?

>>14361114
moth has been surprisingly based as of lately

>>14361124
Cranky is more like it. But this place is such shit some times. Bah

>>14361026
thi guy definetly browses 4chan. /lit/ and /pol/ mainly.

>>14361114
never post in my threads again.

>>14361197
Get a name so I can avoid it.

>>14361248
no

>>14361026
pewdiepie is based. educating the normies. radical normie acceptance and all of that. god's work

>>14361026
>some argue this is the most important work of philosophy ever written
>zooms in on goodreads 3.9/5
holy based

>>14361026
Video is cringe, but what's based is that it will make a lot of young people read Greek philosophy.

>>14361026
Pewdiepie is in this thread as we speak.

>>14361026
well if its anything close to his garbage understanding on kierkegard i aint touching it

besides this isint reddit /ourguy/s arent ecelebs

>>14361026
he is getting closer to the One, True Faith

>>14361248
Just stop posting in any thread

I’m incredulous every time I see a thread of this faggot here and see people calling him based. Take a look at the rest of his content. 99% of it is complete fucking trash.

>>14361184
This has been confirmed on several occasions.
He's been taking content from /wsg/'s YLYL threads for some time and only stopped when mii store basedboy meme began to be forced.

>>14361411
gotta pay the bills somehow mang

>>14361184
>thi guy definetly browses 4chan. /lit/ and /pol/ mainly.
Anon it's been proven so many times. He's rotated and changed the 2017 dolls around according to /pol/ posts,used to shill his back on /v/ before he was popular, does and says everything /lit/ including Start with the Greeks, calls 4han tumblr, had a gun holding pepe on his t.v., said death to all jews, said the gamer word, et cetera.

But is also a cross-dresser with homoerotic tendency's who has questioned his sexuality and because of all this, dislikes Christianity in no small part. At least how I've heard him talk around it.Oh and he's a massive weab.

>>14361248
Hey butterfly

>>14361311
hey pewds

>>14361311
Good. Then he knows which end of the gun to put in his mouth before he pulls the trigger

>>14361434
And some how went into the tunnels of an average attractiveness incel weab to chad Aryan phenotype married and reading philosophy.

>>14361443
Hi Gas! How’s things?

>>14361434
He made a video of him browsing /wsg/ as well.

>>14361452
wow, edgy.

>>14361469
>video
>singular
Anon, he's been doing that for months with his YLYL videos.

>>14361469
Yeah when was that?

>>14361485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lguOhYt-O2w
And 10+ YLYL videos he did before this one.

Pewdiepie is a cryptofascist. And as a black leftist, I find him abhorrent. I might not agree with the Richard Spencers of the world but I respect them and will gladly take a knee of defeat to them if that time comes due to the fact that they aren't scared of admitting their ideologies.

>>14361467
WoMAN? WO. WOH -- OWH WOHAMAN. WO ooo WOOOOOman WOOWOOWOoooooooooo oeyahn yeah, YEAH WOMAN YEAH WOOWOOWOWOOOOOOOOOO HAHA ALRIGHT YEAH!

OMG PEWDS!!!!

I LOVE WHEN MY ECELEB FRIEND SIMULATORS TALK PHILOSOPHY!!!!

>>14361514
>WoMAN? WO. WOH -- OWH WOHAMAN. WO ooo

>>14361411
This

Guy makes the shittiest content you can do on youtube, basically ripping off and reacting to others work or gaming.

>>14361539
so?

>>14361026
>"ai, which actually functions and learns similar to how a human brain does, just massively simplified"
Ahhh why the fuck did he have to say something so stupid, a statement stripped of any necessity for analogy by its own simplicity. Which leads one to assume their is the greater wold view at work expressing itself in this analogy. Of cognitive psychology, that this does not help us understand man but drives an ideological focus on the machine, that this cognitive psychology has seeped into the general public and Felix knows not its origins or cause for focus but uses it believing it to be helpful, or has himself invested time reading and following such a science now unfounded,become ideology. Probably accidental but Felix really needs to do his homework.

>>14361467
Aight. Finally finished the notes for all the Sequels to the Luma series. With hard work I think can finish all 3 in the coming year. I believe in the practice of comprehensive plotting. If you don’t build a solid foundation and make a map of where you’re going... well, you get scattered meandering plot development like The Last Jedi.

Exposing his core audience of teenagers to the philosophy of Aristotle? Absolutely based. He should make more videos like this.

>>14361554
So he's just an eceleb feg that doesnt deserve the praise he gets . Zoomers just need more daddy attention.

>>14361434
>knowing all this

>>14361026
>>14361026
Exposing his core audience of teenagers to the philosophy of Aristotle?

Absolutely based. He should make more videos like this.

>I didn't know this, how insane this is?
Is education really this bad in Sweden?

>>14361026
>>14361570
Humans have higher brain functions(all animated beings do really in this sense), we individually apprehend this far further than any machine could without understanding every detail. It is also to a great degree as well as partially so, inborn. The Collective Unconscious as Jung would call it. All this and our natural capability(or undefined specialisation into existence) results in the intuitive function(not in the Jungian sense). And further more we none the less have no basis for understanding our own apprehension of knowledge from the predicate that we can. And -- this all in the modern scientific framework -- let alone having a proof for the predicate itself.

>>14361608
I'm a zoomer papa needs the stimulation.

>>14361026
tfw he could singlehandely flood this site with neverending reddit masses

>>14361026
Happiness is the wrong word you fucking retard, and we find happiness from doing/believing what is good. This is not a life under will which wants only sustenance. The man who dies in a tragedy may do so resulting in meaning, but happiness does not express it. At best a "higher happiness". Think of The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea. It was not some broad idea of happiness he desired, but something far more concrete, the reclaiming of his masculinity and the conquering of the world by the rejection of it. And that is ignoring all details.

>>14361672
4chan got angry at him drawing attention here so he stopped.

>>14361509
>as a black leftist
is the new
>as a mother

>>14361059
I guess you know more than the guy who's been on top for almost 10 years

>>14361114

>tripfaggot being thinking he has anything to say

kill yourself

Pewds watch this, I think it will help where you're at right now quite well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoybTk6TEX4

there's something kind of endearing about a spastic memer getting tired of it all and delving into philosophy. good on him.

>>14361506
>And 10+ YLYL videos he did before this one.
Thanks anon.

Notice how far his content has gone down?

>>14361026
This is bizarre, it's basically a celebrity trying to educate the masses about philosophy. Anyway he should read Nietzsche who BTFO Greek ethics

>Reason = virtue = happiness means merely that one must imitate Socrates and counter the dark appetites with a permanent daylight - the daylight of reason. One must be clever, clear, bright at any price: any concession to the instincts, leads down to the unconscious... Socrates seemed to be a physician, a savior. Is it necessary to demonstrate the error that lay in his belief in "rationality at any price"? - It is a self-deception on the part of philosophers and moralists, so extricating themselves from decadence that they make war against it. Extrication lies beyond their strength, what they choose as a means, as salvation is itself just another expression of decadence - they change their expression, they cannot do it away themselves.

>>14361730
His e-fame has put him in a very curious place:
>rich as fuck
>literally too big to fail
>poos beating him at subs means jack-shit, because they're a massive corporate entity
>became a "literal Hitler" in the eyes of some, to the point where people are unironically celebrating his house getting robbed
>became a "literal Jesus" in the eyes of others, who defend him through every controversy
>MSM feasibly can't write a hitpiece provocative enough to tank him
>but that also means they probably will never stop trying
In terms of content, he can do just about anything and talk about anything, faggots will whine on Twitter no matter what he'll do.

>>14361633
I don't recall learning about the Greek philosophers for more than a page worth in my entire schooling in the US

>>14361786
>>Reason = virtue = happiness means merely that one must imitate Socrates
Freddy forgot to mention that Socrates was right however.

>>14361794
Imagine giving this much thought to some memer who won’t be remembered in 15 years.

>>14361434
And You laugh you lose was /gif/ threads for the first few ep's

>>14361823
>audience is 80% zoomers
>"won't be remembered in 15 years"
Anon, the only way he won't be remembered in 15 years is if Youtube itself won't be remembered in 15 years.
And chances of that are... rather loose.

>>14361823
he will be in school text books about the early internet 200 years from now.

>>14361786

yes Nietzsche, one should aspire to live to an ideal. isn't this your own idea?

>>14361026
Yet more proof that philosophy is nothing more than a thing for people with way too much time on their hands

>>14361858
Yeah your OWN ideal not someone else's.

I dont get how this guy is so famous, having a hundred million subscribers yet he only has an averrage of 5 millions views per video.

Is it just 90% bots subscibed from his Tseries marketing operation? Or are people just subscribed because their friends at school occasionally talk about it?

>>14361866

if "reason" is equivalent to "the truth", why does it matter if it's someone else's idea or not? protip, it doesn't

>pewdiepier is more well read than me
I-I just never was sure on a translation bros

>>14361905
He's saying reason is not the truth, that the Greek fascination with reason betrayed a spiritual crisis in Greece. They used reason to declare war on instinct, the will to power, and became a society of weak thinkers rather than strong doers.

>>14361895

boomer detected

>>14361895
small children being captivated by his obnoxious personality + algorithms recommending him + normalfags catching on once the previous two things elevated him to most subscribed

>>14361026
I respect him for listening to his reddit book followers and actually starting with the Greeks
(unironically)

I hate this shit so much. From the stupid normie politics crap he injects into it (even if he’s “against” it, it’s the same banal paradigm) and then utterly superficial readings of philosophy which he tries to compare to it. And then like a typical pseud finishing with “this is what happiness is”, you’ve read literally one fucking work of ethics and now that’s not only your opinion, it’s absolute truth? God I cringe so hard watching this guy

It’s funny him seethe at christianity and then call plato his favourite philosopher ever. Should we tell the pseud how much plato inspired Christianity? Or Aristotle for that manner?

>>14361570
All retards think like this. Reducing the human mind to machine causality is easy to justify and sounds superficially intelligent; obviously in reality it’s fucking stupid.

>>14361982
That doesn't really sound like an argument

>>14361601
>deserve
>praise
i mean this seriously do you have some sort of autism? that's like saying peewee herman doesnt deserve the praise he gets. his praise comes from fuckin teenagers, who cares dumbfuck? what does deserving have anything to do with it?

>>14361970
>you’ve read literally one fucking work of ethics and now that’s not only your opinion, it’s absolute truth?
This. Anons ITT are praising him for exposing philosophy to a younger audience but he’s actually misinforming them. Also, he completely missed the teleological points (including the one regarding pursuing theoretical study), and he fucked up with his definition of eudaimonia. I doubt he would be able to get through the organon or physics/metaphysics. He should stick to fiction instead.

>>14361124
>>14361114
>>14361137
Not butterfly. The cadence is wrong. unless she went through some psychosis recently.

>>14361722
So sad that Roger is dying.

>>14361970
This

I cant stand this guy, it truly saddens me when I see anons sucking this guy's cock.

It's just the absolute lowest kind of entertainment one could get. He can rage at jewtube however he wants, he's part of the same kind of low tier shit garbage that he despises and thats what made him succesfull

>>14361026
kinda worried hes gunna start reading Augustine or some shit

>>14362008
t butthurt hipster

>completely missed telological points
>completely missed points of plato
yeah no shit retard its a 10min youtube video for normies jesus you are dumb

>fucked up with his definition of eudaimonia
no he was pretty spot on. you just really want to be special

>>14362000
>muh argument
Is this all your bug brain can deflect to? What argument did I make? I merely pointed out how drenched in plato and aristotle christianity is, to the point where it’s almost nonsensical to praise one while regarding the other in its entirety. For example, he seethes at kierkegaard for having faith in something with “no evidence”, yet plato, the man who posits that everything we see is a reflection of some perfect divinity which further reflects The One, he likes? Or Aristotle, who presented one of the most famous arguments for monotheism? Maybe if your reading was a little deeper you’d see connections and things to think on rather than seeing any statement as some argumentative attack on your own intellectual insecurity

>>14362008
>I know that he has a large audience of kids that would probably never take interest in philosophy otherwise, but he gets some stuff wrong, so he better drop that shit altogether

>>14362031
*disregarding

>>14362039
>>14362027
I don’t think you are really getting people’s criticism, and this probably stems from some stupid Anglo way of regarding philosophy. He is not guiding people in philosophical thinking. For someone who claims to love plato, plato himself would have hated him for this. His factual errors aren’t the problem, it’s how he goes about presenting and thinking on philosophy. He doesn’t expound things accurately and give his audience room to question and make their own conclusions, he places everything through the lens of his own life and understanding and applies it in some pseudo factual and crigingly pseudo scientific manner to things which relate to his audiences life. It’s the dogmatism of some teenager and it’s bad for philosophy or understanding. Of course, you’ll say he’s just some youtuber making crap for kids, sure, but it doesn’t mean this stuff is good

>>14362003
Oh did I dare criticize your favorite daddy replacement eceleb?

He gets praised here you dumb fuck. From retards like you who think he is a model for the younger generations while most of the time he simply produces the lowest of lowest type of content.

>>14362069
Thank you. Also consider how most of these kids probably won’t go out of their way to read plato/aristotle anyway, and will only know what to believe from this video.

>>14362069
Anon, he's a gateway.
Even if one zoomer takes interest and starts reading Greeks on his own, nothing you've wrote in this post will matter anyway.
Drop that retarded hipster shtick and be glad that someone of his reach does this in the first place

>>14362069
I havent watched this video, but I did watch his one on The Republic. I kinda agree, however, I think he is nowhere near the worst gateway. At least he presents the stuff as through his own, rather pedestrian, views and experiences, instead of going the complete midwit route and saying "This is exactly what he meant, and this is correct". He doesnt have the best command of words, but I can tell through his discource that he is at least trying to be sincere instead of diluding himself into thinking he knows shit. This vid might be different, but I thought the other one was pretty decent. I would show it to a freind who had no grasp on philosophy. He wasnt nearly as dogmatic as others, even though he covers his thoughts qite a bit so as not be be called out. I feel like if he had better eloquence he would be a pretty decent speaker. being esl doesnt help.

>>14362078
>“He gets praised here.”

No. No he doesn’t.

Look, I know you just got here but don’t say shit like that. It gives dipshits hope

>keeps using images of Jesus when he talks about virtue signallers
of all the criticisms of Christianity, calling Jesus a virtue signaller is one of the most stupid. Even Nietzsche admitted that he lived by his code

>>14362354
what do you mean?

>>14361577
>plot
Come on.

>>14362399
Watch the vid

>>14362409
Vs “pantsing”

>>14362354
oh yeah you're right

>>14362017
The month of December is always shit for me, so I’m kind of on edge.

>>14361988
>All retards think like this. Reducing the human mind to machine causality is easy to justify and sounds superficially intelligent; obviously in reality it’s fucking stupid.
Hoy Hitler those are some nice dubs!

But yeah, I think brainlets just say the a.i. argument because it's just heard so often I'm not even sure if they put any thought into this.

>>14362354
He was using the image of jesus as someone virtuous.

>>14362018
Yeah, bless his soul.

By far always been my favourite closet racial realist.

>>14362031
>>14362040
based.

>>14361026
>says the word retroactively in the first 30 seconds
yeah he definitely browses here

>>14361988
>Reducing the human mind to machine causality is easy to justify and sounds superficially intelligent; obviously in reality it’s fucking stupid.
[citation needed] I love when reactionary /lit/ deadbeats say shit like this. Read some Norbert Wiener or really any decent text on cybernetics. The only fundamentally different aspect about the human brain is that it's both analog and digital.

>>14361059
It's on purpose to get people to watch the video. it's the same reason he put Thanos in the Kierkegaard video.

>>14361026
Greeks are retard, no wonder pleb like this faggots finds them a good authority, isn't it ironic how he's trying to boast about knowing about basic philosophy while criticizing people who do a very similar thing.
All Jewtubers and celebrities are narcissists, he's one of the biggest ones, so he is even more of an egomaniac, so he boast about how humble and not like all those other retards he is.

>>14362610
>The only fundamentally different aspect about the human brain is that it's both analog and digital.
Read Kant

>>14361711
his probably smart enough to understand why them flooding here is a bad thing.

>>14361570
>>14361639
You're trying way too hard bro

That statement makes perfect sense. That's how humans learn how to do things too.

>>14362708
What I stated was obvious.

I unironically started reading because of his literature clube videos. I started with 12 rules for life and Mans search for meaning. :^)

>>14362731
Bro you're just trying to be a hipster. Humans learn to do things the same way a machine does. Training, repetition, errors and improvement. That's what "practice" is. That doesn't mean whatever else you think you read into that statement.

>>14361294
No, it won't. Though "a lot" is subjective.

>>14361633
I call bullshit on you learning this shit in school.

>>14361809
We briefly glossed over them in our world history class.

>>14361970
Spot on.

>>14362003
I doubt the average teenager today even knows who Pee Wee Herman is.

>>14361026
This is a pretty good video. Anyone hating Pewdiepie for this is a pseud.

He is getting people to learn about virtue ethics. This is very good. Of all celebrities and e-celebrities he is the one making the best contribution.

>>14361026
it's called "i hate twitter" so it's cringe. I don't even need to watch the video
There are literally millions of videos that probably say the exact same thing. Some of them might hide behind greek philosophers or other shit, some others don't, but in the end it's just people crying because they met 3 haters and a half.
They all cry because "people are too agressive on twitter", "it's a battlefiled", "we can no longer make a joke", but the reality is just that 2 people told them that their joke was fucking racist. "We can't make jokes without being *-phobic" some might say. If someone ever says that they know nothing about comedy. I'm sick of these stupid "content creator" that don't think more than 2 minutes about their content, and then come crying when it gets back in their face.
fuck e-celebrity, fuck youtube

>>14361786
Nietzsche was an unhappy loser. He is not a good role model for a happy successful life.

>>14362887
>it's called "i hate twitter" so it's cringe. I don't even need to watch the video
retard

>>14362887
He criticizes Twitter for not discussing quality topics or making quality content but then again, neither does he.

>>14362911
my experience show that 100% of the videos complaining about twitter that I watched were PURE shit. From what I read in this thread, this one doesn't unprove my theory.
It's basic science

>>14362922
Twitter is shit.

>>14362501
Why is it shit?

>>14362921
at this point he can literally criticize all social network that favor interactions over quality. Which is the case for most social networks because it's way more viable economically.
>>14362940
it's only your opinion
and if you think it's a general truth then you're a moron

>>14362955
Because it's holiday season which angers our radical atheist lesbian friend.

>>14362969
>it's only your opinion
>and if you think it's a general truth then you're a moron
No, Twitter really is fucking shit.

>>14362921
Does and has done the same with jewtube, recently made a video about it to cry about the current state of things, but went to 100 million by spamming his garbage gaming and content reaction videos, doing like every other clone does.

Why are big youtubers such hypocrites? I swear, the exact same shit happened in France where there is that one youtuber (who is basically the french Pewdiepie) complaining about the methods youtubers use to succeed, yet he pulled the same kind of shit to get where he is at. Fucking hypocrites.

>>14362940
Twitter is shit and cringe
Complaining about it is shit and cringe

The only rational thing to do would be to sage the shit out of those ego feeding machines. All the rest is just seeking attention.

>>14362969
twitter irasces the lower appitites

Let's compare Pewdiepie, getting people to learn about virtue ethics and Aristotle vs one of the most famous modern intellectuals
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1206607677884813313

>>14363000
Lets not and say we did.

>>14361026
he's the definition of a pseud. these 'people' only read philosophy to find what they already believe to justify themselves. sophistry. and all the normie analogies prove he's not even a critical thinker...

>>14362897
>happiness as THE goal
>not excellence
lmao dumb americans

>>14363417
By following the Greeks you become a happier and manlier man. What do you gain by following Nietzsche? You have a breakdown?

>>14362955
>>14362974
Shitmas month. Celebrating consumerism by stepping it up a notch or three. Capitalism is an extension, a third part, to the Judeo-Christian tradition. Sure, it’s nominally about Christ (who wasn’t born in the winter) but now it’s all about spending yourself into debt and making the wealthy that much more richer.

Traditionally this was the holiday where the wealthy gave to the slaves and other less fortunate and let them rest for one measly week of the winter solstice

>>14361374
islam

>>14361539
>basically ripping off and reacting to others work or gaming
That's the bread and butter of most entertainers, Youtube or otherwise. Pewdiewhatever's difference is his sociopathic devotion to producing content. He puts out at LEAST a video a day, doesn't he? It's sheer output of content that jettisoned him to the top tier of moneymakers on Youtube.

>>14362024
yeah, he should start with aquinas

>>14361855
just like you're butthole faggot shut the u fuck

>>14363730
no. chrysostom

>>14361059
to be honest, the case of twitter is one really relevant to the future of philosphical thought

>>14363623
>It's sheer output of content that jettisoned him to the top tier of moneymakers on Youtube.
he's also ridiculously handsome, like holy shit he's 0.001th percentile at least, and he's got a cute dorky swedish accent, also he seems to have a really good pulse on the latest internet memes and has used it to not only stay relevant but to even expand demographics from kiddos to people all across the age spectrum
but yeah aside from all that he's not that different from all the other youtubers

>>14362024
As anyone reading philosophy should. Augustine is a significant thinker

I sense a certain irony in him denouncing twitter for the virtue signalling, and at the same time making a whole video to say hes quitting twitter. I know it's not exactly virtue signalling as he did indeed delete his twitter, but still...makes me giggle

>>14363397
The Greek Sophists were unironically right and are to philosophy what the apostles were to Christ

Also one needs to critically think to create your own analogies in the first place by dismissing ones that don't align

>>14361026
Suprisingly based

Few with his fan base would be this honest.

>>14363440
You get syphilis from a hooker AND a breakdown

>>14363477
>letting slaves rest is a bad thing
woah didn't know you were so redpilled

>>14361026
fuck off

>>14362853
It's pretty much one of the first things I've learned about them in school.

>>14362986
Youtubers are just entertainers, things do not need to line up. Do as I say not as I do and all that.

>>14361026
Not bad, actually. I'm surprised.

>>14362768
>Training, repetition, errors and improvement.
Wrong.

>That's what "practice" is.
Imagine thinking practice is the whole of human experience or learning. There are so many vast *Cognitive* functions and difference between a.i. and all living beings but especially between it and man. The computer is algorithmically deterministic, we are not for example. However all of these differences culminate in the idea of the Psyche, the Psyche-as-such. And further back we find the connection that the first prime itself of life is completely different to the machine. I believe one thing you should know to dispel your silly beliefs is that man intakes knowledge completely differently. We ourselves do not even know what connects our knowledge together, whereas for the computer it is numbers, and if a single is missing it cannot work. Intuition plays a vital role for man.

Tell me, I wonder, what was the purpose of saying we learn like a machine instead of saying that we learn through repetition? If not as I said, the seeping into the thoughts of a general public, unaware of the larger worldview in which these ideas belong.

>>14365002

>>14361026
>be Pewds
>favorite author is a rabid Imperial Japanese nationalist / propagandist
>confirmed owner of a replica Confederate cavalry saber
>enemy of the lying media
>makes philosophical content accessible to young viewers
Based /pollit/ician

bump

>>14361026
Cringe for its unseriousness aka meme

>>14362748
You’ve got to go back