/lit/ - Literature

Not only that, but Czech too.

>>14351167
>>14351186
Read Goethe and quit being a pseud teen.

That translates to "The only German-language writer I know is Kafka."

>>14351191
>Goethe
There is no bigger meme. Sorrows and Faust were both shit.

>>14351167
Kafka is good, really good indeed, and I don't care at all about nazis or any of that shit, but his work is not even comparable to Musil's Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften, the only other work that would be comparable to it would be Proust's A La Recherche du Temps Perdu. Those two works are the pinnacle of literary achievement so far.

Also, Mann is a worthy german writer as well, I would put him at the same level as Kafka.

>>14351206
The only shit thing here is your taste, lad.

>>14351191
Goethe is shallow, it doesn't delve deep into anything, it does not avoid common sense, rather he embraces it, his books are no more than treatises about nature that any layman could do, just not with the same mastery of words. Goethe avoid deepness in exchange for beautiful but shallow words that hold nothing beyond that. It's am empty beauty, nothing really worthy. As I said before, the pinnacle of german-speaking literature is Musil, then there are some pretty good writers such as Mann, Kafka, Hesse and others and then it declines.

>>14351240
>it does not avoid common sense, rather he embraces it

What are you trying to say, here? It sounds coherent, but closer inspection shows it's blather.

>>14351206
Your precious Kafka disagreed. He said: "Goethe said practically everything that matters to us human beings." And he even said it to a pretentious underread young man like ypjrsekf .

>>14351254
He's doing exactly what he's accusing Goethe of doing.

>>14351254
What does Goethe have to say about his society? About the bourgeoisie? About human nature at all? He doesn't touch on any of those questions deeply. His magnum opus Faust is about what? A very shalllow study of human nature that was already been written extensively by writers of the past. Compare it with Proust which makes an extensively study about the bourgeoisie in his time and explores deeply into the meaning of life and time itself. They're not even close.

>>14351281
>muh human nature
Fuck off plebbitor.

>>14351281
Wilhelm Meister is his magnum plus but you don't realize that because you're an underread pseud who wants to regurgitate easy, received opinions. The Meister novels have everything you say he lacks.

>>14351287
I'll try to read that someday, I admit that I dropped Faust halfway through the first part, wasn't feeling it at all.

Also, I don't care about your opinion on me at all.

>>14351302
Yes you do or you wouldn't say that after immediately backpedaling and cooling to the fact that I'm right. You're a bitch, but you don't have to be. Pick up Wilhelm Meister and begin your bildung.

>>14351167
>>>/his/
/lit/ is a pro-German board

>>14351255
I'm not saying he isn't hugely respected and influential. Everybody from Hegel to Nietzsche to Jung write about him. But personally I think you're better off reading and rereading Montaigne's essays (and Kafka's stories) for example, than toiling through something like Faust.

>>14352171
Quit talking about Faust, bitch. It’s not his best work. And anyway the second part, which you haven’t read, is superior. His works run to 140+ volumes.

>>14352171
>or example, than toiling through something like Faust.
It's short and has amazing poetry. Maybe Faust Part 2 is worth avoiding though.

>>14352178
>And anyway the second part, which you haven’t read, is superior.
Hardly anyone reads it and it's dense, esoteric, and needless.