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14341615 No.14341615[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is he right?

>> No.14341624

shut up anglo, nobody gives a shit about your obsession with "politics''. you know which side of the political spectrum the entire world stands at? the 'as soon as the united states loses its military grasp we will annihilate anglos' side. the entire world. from chinks to spics to europeans.

>> No.14341630

>>14341615
Fuck off. Mid-wit thread that has nothing to do with literature

>> No.14341634

>>14341630
But that was a post from a literature board so it does

>> No.14341695

>>14341615
It’s a good point, but of course a leftist could say that the ‘nature’ of a right winger is an imposed, patriarchal structure and to be natural is actually to resist this
Rephrase without appealing to ‘nature’ and it’d work better

>> No.14341706

>>14341634
Based retard

>> No.14341712

No.

>> No.14341732

>>14341624
The US/Anglo political sphere is a keystone to the functioning of most of the rest of the world; the ‘great unwashed’ are a misleading source, as they scream the loudest but are ultimately historically impotent

>> No.14341737

>>14341712
6th post in this time
I’m gonna start referring to these shit /pol/ b8 threads as butterfly nets

>> No.14341743

>>14341695
>muh strongk upper-body hunter warrior cultchur
Nature has no states, no money, much less capitalism, and no god. The tiger prays at no alter

>> No.14341746

>>14341624
This.
What happens to anglos now is justice.
t.european whose country was handed over to commies by anglo scum

>> No.14341753

>>14341743
>implying Hunger is not a god

>> No.14341755

>>14341737
I don’t want them here either

>> No.14341760

>>14341615
"right wing" is close to God, "left wing" is what goes against God, aka satanism.
>those who are not with me are against me
if you aren't with Christ, you're "left wing."

>> No.14341764
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14341764

>>14341753

>> No.14341766

>>14341755
no one gives a fuck what you want porn-spammer.

>> No.14341769

>>14341743
But this is a nature that is hostile to humans- my post is addressing this exactly: nature is the wrong word, it is more ‘intuitive reason’ based on survival and building bigger and better societies to enable more survival (something technically unnatural)
Love the ad hominem though, reminds me never to take you in good faith ;)

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>>14341615
women=left wing for anything but sex
women= capitalist for sex [making men compete for a reward and the reward is providing for a woman at least sexually]


men = right wing for anything but sex = autism = clinging to pathetic power fantasies of leading other people and killing people who do not think like them, craving to be alphas when all they do is supporting women at best
men like to be told what to do
and it is distraction from orbiting roasties.
So that men feel like strong and powerful about something not related to women. However, the only thing that men do when they create a society is in fact to give an easy life to women, because
-men never ever stop competing for women
-society according to men is jsut to get comfortable, which women benefit a lot from , and create rules and being upset when they think that other tribes do things differently

this is why women always push for more society and men gladly work for them free of charge.
men = left wing for sex

>> No.14341771

>>14341755
Totally missed the point; you’re just really simple minded and fall for dumb shit

>> No.14341775

>>14341615
No its a goofy appeal to nature fallacy. Everyone gets hard preaching from the moral high ground it seems

>> No.14341782

>>14341624
CIDF fuck off

>> No.14341791

>>14341760
Imagine actually having this simplistic a view of the world.... how would you react if I told you there are people that believe the polar opposite and that the right wing is acting satanic?

>> No.14341796

>>14341766
Oh I can tell.

>>14341769
>bigger
Size queen.
OP isn’t a good point. Right and often enough “left” don’t understand each other because they don’t look into what they believe in. I was raised on variety of conservative and went left gradually. I find it all fascinating sociology... but I understand why we don’t want threads like this here

>> No.14341803

>>14341771
>ur the reson poltards are here
No u

>> No.14341812

>>14341624
>black and brown people who aren't smart enough to work out industry or agriculture for themselves will crush us

You know what happens when the west finally collapses? The planet's great brown tumor does of starvation. Kenyan women can only shit out 8 kids a pop when western governments provide food and clothing for their useless eaters.

>> No.14341813

>>14341803
Haha, again missing my point
I’m literally just only saying you are a simpleton

>> No.14341816

>>14341813
Ah. A troll. 2/10

>> No.14341817

>>14341791
yeah the ones who don't want 13 year old drag queens dancing half naked in the street for adult homosexuals are the real satanist lmao. stfu heathen

>> No.14341826

>>>/pol/

>> No.14341846

>>14341615
it's the opposite actually, the natural state of man is to give himself to his base desires, which is the thing leftism provides (relaxation of sexual norms, less social rules and order, more individual control of your body ie no priests telling you not to jack it, all amount to a platform based largely in hedonism)
giving yourself to restraint and higher ideals is not the default state and requires discipline and conviction
that's why radical right wingers shoot up mosques while radical left wingers impotently brood in god forsaken shitholes like portland, when they're not writing propaganda for the neoliberal ruling class
they can never have the same level of conviction because lefties are basically just coomers who made it into a political platform, nobody's ever gonna die for their right to coom

>> No.14341851

>>14341812
Do you think theyre just going to stand around as their whole country starves to death you dickhead? theyll come and take your shit. Itll be the bronze age collapse+the migration period times 10

>> No.14341854

>>14341817
Christian, please.
Keep it to yourself till you mature.

>>14341826
Agreed

>> No.14341860

Where are the fucking MODS?

>> No.14341862

>>14341817
Have you ever talked to a leftist in person or do you just get your information from the internet? I promise the average person isnt okay with that. Open your mind, youre not omniscient.

>> No.14341866

>>14341860
Donate to his paypal

>> No.14341875

>>14341860
Lmao

>> No.14341885

>>14341624
holy FUCKING BASED. Anglo genocide when?

>> No.14341909

>>14341862
lol, the average leftist is okay with gay marriage, so whats the difference when all gays are pedophiles?
>>14341854
no one was speaking to you tranny.

>> No.14341912

>>14341624
A revolution will rise up from within, and blood will flow.

>> No.14341913

Sort of, social reformers are generally miserable people even if their critiques are usually correct. There is no end state where reformers wont exist anymore thats utopian drivel

>> No.14341925

>>14341770
Does it hurt to have a brain that's completely melted?

>> No.14341930

>>14341909
Psychopathic Christian!
>>14341913
True enough. The left are generally looking to make improvements to the status quo. There are problems and the sacred “traditional” should be challenged. The OP dichotomy is a false one

>> No.14341976

>>14341851
You think people who've failed to build anything in human history will gain that ability after they're done eating the remains of the west?

They won't. It'll be starvation and poverty. The west doesn't have magic dirt. Moving here and taking our stuff won't make a 65IQ sub saharan African into someone capable of industry or agriculture.

The problem with black/brown people isn't that they've been somehow held down since before prehistory. It's that they're literally genetically inferior to whites and Asians. They have less potential, from birth. They don't have the cognitive capacity for Civilization, much less empire.

>> No.14342044

>>14341909
>Being okay with letting consenting adults have the freedom to do what they want means you support pedophilia. >libtards btfo
Do you ever get tired of painting in broad strokes? Use your brain for once. Any chance you could provide a source for the retarded shit youre spewing?

>> No.14342049

>>14341813
Why are you engaging with moth? The guy is disgraced on the this board. Ignore

>> No.14342056

>>14342049
>Heel to the tone police! HEEL
You are the worst poster here.

>> No.14342062

>>14341976
Youre ignoring my point they dont have to be smart enough for agriculture or industry just enough to work an ak47. And regardless of what you think there is black agriculture in africa
Also as youd know if youd ever had a conversation with one blacks dont think theyve been held down since prehistory, just colonial times because yknow... they have

>> No.14342069

>>14342044
homosexuality is a sin against nature.

>> No.14342084

>>14341615
Read Rousseau, you american pig

>> No.14342093

"Natural" is hunter-gatherer right? So it's both. Left-wing towards the ingroup, right-wing towards the outgroup.

>> No.14342101

>>14341712
fuck off you gender dysphorian tranosaurous faggot.

>> No.14342102

>>14342069
That is certainly your opinion and others' but why is your opinion relevant to lawmaking and what other consenting adults that arent hurting anyone should be able to do? As a followup do you think we should reinstate Prohibition?

>> No.14342111

>>14342069
Also I still havent seen your source for your claim all gays are pedos

>> No.14342117

>>14342069
Nature commits homosexual acts all the time. It’s no big deal, sexoholic Christian

>>14342101
I’m not having any gender issues, laddie.

>> No.14342121

>>14342069
just wait until governments realize part of the solution to overpopulation is actively promoting and encouraging homosexuality and adoption

>> No.14342122

>>14341615

The post itself tells you everything you need to know about the opinion.

#. believes in a nature
#. believes people are born into what they do and that there is a natural hierarchy
#. circumlocution of the definition of natural as that which is not unnatural being anything that requires thought which he calls "mental gymnastics."

Classic case of too stupid to know you are too stupid.

So I agree with the conclusion - that most people are right wing - but not because it's natural.

Most people are right wing because most people are stupid.

>> No.14342137

>>14341615
Yes. Of course.

You need at least a 120 IQ and some serious mental tools to be able to rationalize why Communism/Anarchism/etc. could even work, it is a highly advanced sand castle only serious intellectuals can actually build up and defend coherently.

It is VERY easy to argue why 1+1 equals 2, but to argue otherwise takes very serious amounts of Intellectual efforts.

>> No.14342148

>>14342121
>the solution to overpopulation
The solution they’ve found is war, poisoning, pollution and “affordable”, or lack there of, healthcare.

>> No.14342155

>>14342093
Yes. It's pretty much "economically left wing", because that is how people in small communities interact with each other and "culturally right wing", in reference to self preservation of the in group.

>> No.14342160

>>14342117
He meant the philosophical meaning of nature. You have quite some reading to do if you didn't know that.

>> No.14342162

>>14342102
LOL no its a fact, faggot. sex is for making babies, that's it. gay's pervert that and sin against the nature of the act out of lust for male shithole.
>>14342111
its well known, stop playing dumb to defend penis in male shithole. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
>>14342117
animals don't have free will, they can't sin.
>>14342121
>until
>>14342148
you are so fucking retarded. just go join the 40% if you're not gonna repent you sick fuck

>> No.14342201

>>14342122
Based

>> No.14342206

>>14341624
dangerously based post. the CIA/MI6 niggers WILL hear about this.

>> No.14342208

>>14342122
Intellectuals get the bullet first.

>> No.14342212

>>14342117
>Nature commits homosexual acts all the time. It’s no big deal, sexoholic Christian
Nature also commits rape and infanticide all the time. It’s no big deal, narcissist.

>> No.14342221
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>>14342162
Now you have to prove free will.
>40%
Your hope, your dream. You failed Christian-capitalist, how pathetic your life must be

>>14342160
Not really but irrelevant anyway
Not going to read your theology bs.

>>14342212
Not even at issue.
>rape is same as two gay lovers!!!
So dumb

>> No.14342231

>>14342221
my hope and my dream is 100%

>> No.14342241

>>14342221
You idiot. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in your thinking.
>it is common place in nature so therefore it is morally acceptable.
I’m not even against homosexuality. But appealing to nature to justify it is retarded.

>> No.14342242

>>14342162
Are you trolling or just dumb? If sex is entirely for making babies and its a sin against nature to act otherwise why do certain animals have recreational sex and what about the human behavior of homosexuality and recreational sex specifically makes it unnatural if we are products of nature? If you say free will you have to prove that, its not a fact just because you want it to be. What youre doing is stating your opinion as if its fact and you havent really given much to back it up besides Im right youre wrong and gays are a perversion of nature etc. Thats an opinion, not a fact.
Youve ignored my other questions which says a lot already but just to ream you in the asshole and make you understand how wrong you are can you defend your position that homosexuality should be illegal without using appeals to nature or your (personal) religion?

Also did you even read the source you sent me? It says a proportion of pedos are gay nothing about the proportion of gays that are pedos. Its a dishonest statistic without much meaning; its like saying 95% of criminals in great britain are white but does that really tell us how many white people are criminals?

>> No.14342249

>>14342201 thanks
>>14342208 makes my point

You see:
If to be able to judge whether something works depends on whether you want it, and people want different things, then how can there be just one story of the way things work? We all have bodies so we agree on that story and call it nature, but on those things we don’t agree on, you can’t create a single story.

The story of Belief is just Rainbow Ponies. Either there is a reality and belief has nothing to do with it, or you are equivocating “belief” with “agreement” that changes the reality depending on what you want.

The problem here is "reality" or "nature" and all the other fantasies you make up to force agreement, and there are people who are not going to agree to be exploited by capitalists and fascists anymore.

All of evolution works this way. The mutation CREATES its advantage. What is here is just what is left over from WHAT DIED. There is no nature or reality that decides anything; We make “nature” and “Reality” by what works to retain the identity story that made what works.

This whole thread is a “Flat Earth” argument. When you build a house the earth is flat. If you never do anything but build houses, a flat earth is all you can know. If you sail ships, the earth is round. Those who don’t have the story of a round earth and sail ships die leaving behind those that have the story that the earth is round.

I for one am wondering why lit is having arguments with flat earther trolls.

>> No.14342251

>>14342212
You were the one using the appeal to nature fallacy not her

>> No.14342253

>>14342221
What are you even doing here. You are a 30 something year old (?) women who spends her Friday (nights?) on a forum primarily inhabited by 20 something lonely males and are trying to get them into a ridiculous ideology.

Since you have been psychologizing people I will too. You are really lonely and deeply unhappy because you have deluded yourself into an "intellectual" lifestyle (which fails miserably as you really can't convince anyone here of even being moderately intelligent) and now seek to compensate for your total lack of any male attention by preying on the first group of lonely younger males you can find and who won't have a chance to Pierce your carefully constructed bubble.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? What makes you come here.

>> No.14342260

>>14342249
>>>14342201 # thanks
Imagine thanking people for things like this.
First time on 4chan?

Also. I am not gonna read your gibberish, Intellectuals have been a plague on the world. The sooner we start killing people like you the sooner everyone is happier.

>> No.14342276

>>14342241
Holy assumptions and projections batman.... who has the time to type shit like this out?

>> No.14342278

>>14342242
i'm not going to sit here and make philosophical argument about why JIZZING IN A MAN'S SHITHOLE is bad. if you don't believe in free will, and want to act like a filthy animal, go ahead, see where it gets you faggot. if you don't believe in free will then i guess you also believe we should let criminals go free because they didn't choose to commit a crime.

>> No.14342282

>>14342062
I'm not ignoring your point. You aren't making one. We've both accepted the premise the west will fall and be overrun by subhumans. How many acres can you plant with that AK-47? That AK-47 won't feed a roving band of 65-80IQ monkey men. Once the whites are gone, it serves no purpose, except possibly as an enabler of chaos and crime in Niggerland.

>> No.14342285

>>14342276
Meant for >>14342253

>> No.14342290

>>14342276
>Holy assumptions and projections
Well. The psychologizing obviously it, but again she does it too, so I thought it was pretty fair.

I genuinely want to know why she is here.

>> No.14342294

>>14342278
ewww gays r grosss. Classic brainlet argument

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>>14342294
>NOOOOOO I NEEDA GET ME SOME A DAT MALE SHITHOLE GOTTA PUT MY DICK IN A MAN'S POOP CHUTE!!!!! GOTTA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!11111 ITS NOT GROS ITS LOVE GOTTA SHOOT SOME LOVE INTO A MAN'S COLON!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE THE SMELL OF SHIT ON MY COCK AAAAAAHHH I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.14342317

>>14342260

Thanks. I come here to confirm my superiority and you just did. I at least read what I criticize. You, being a right wing troll expecting other right wing trolls to bolster your ego, even though they are equally stupid, are the one who doesn't belong here.
On lit we support good Ideas. I suspect you are so stupid that you got the post numbers mixed up and thought I was thanking you when you were the one I was saying "look at this stupid fuck."

Stupid is just stupid all the way through I suppose as evidenced by your empty pathetic threats.

What a loser..

>> No.14342326

Don't care. Not literature also you're white.

>> No.14342334

>>14342311
>implying love is only about cooming

seems like you got some issues there bud. relationships are about loving another human and aren't entirely sex based

>> No.14342343

>>14342334
tell it to your boyfriend while his cock is buried in your shitter.

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14342348

Not specifically about OP's image, but in general rather, do you fags ever get tired of mechanically spouting inane slogans defending one shitty side of a shitty dualism that just ensures we get fucked from both sides? The more I follow politics the more I want to be completely oblivious to politics (as in not even at the point where I might bother spouting nonsense without even considering any alternatives), which is already a shitty and very common position.

Not to give into the typical hysteria, but if we should ever go extinct, especially through our own actions whatever they might be, it can only feel like justice to me.

>> No.14342352

>>14342317
>I suspect you are so stupid that you got the post numbers mixed up and thought I was thanking you
No. YOU were thanking someone for responding with "based". Let me ask you again, first time on 4chan?

>right wing troll
You make it VERY hard for me to not call you a Redditor.

>I come here to confirm my superiority
I know. That's typical intellectual behavior. Without social validation you people kill yourself.

>by your empty pathetic threats.
I am not threatening (You) in particular I am just saying that every intellectual should hang to make the world a better place.

>> No.14342357

>>14342278
>durrr I can't actually justify why I believe the things I do it should be obvious homosexuality is ICKY and GROSS and BAD therefore daddy government should ban it
Keep typing brainlet. You moved the goalposts from 'its a fact and goes against nature even though it occurs in nature' to 'I believe it just stop bullying me )):'
As to the last bit society operates on the assumption we have some modicum of free will but youve yet to bridge the gap on why we should treat gays as criminals like murderers when their actions hurt nothing but the precious feelings of bootlickers like yourself

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>>14342311
This. True love is going ass to ass with a double dildo, anything else is barbaric.

>> No.14342378

>>14342357
i didn't move the goal posts, you just started denying free will to justify getting dicked down in the pooper, so i'm not going to cast my pearls before someone lower than swine. you love and enjoy a man's cock sliding in and out of your anus and you think you're some kind of genius because of that? LOL

>> No.14342383

This thread is childish and this board is pathetic.
I have literally nothing to add, I only want to insult you guys.