/lit/ - Literature

>>14340615
Are you?

OHAIIIIIIYOOOO
YOOOOOOOOOOOO
NANI?!?!
NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
TCH
HEH
SHINE!!!
KAWAIIIIIIII!!!
* Godzilla roar*

>Soseki
>Tanizaki
>Shonagon
>Shikibu
>Hoshi
>Yoshitsune
>Sokan
>Kisanji
But yes it's mostly garbage

>>14340651
sugoi

>>14340651
Based

>>14340615
yes retard haven't you seen naruto baka

>>14340651
Ohayō gozaimasu

>>14340615
I enjoyed some shit like your name, and there's good stories in anime, but I suppose japs are simply mediocre in writing.

dunno, could be their language and culture doesn't seem capable of great literary expressions.

Or could be we don't understand japanese soul and therefore we don't see greatness in their stories.

From what I see japs are good at contemplative poetrhy.

I enjoyed some shit like Rick and Morty, and there's good stories in cartoons, but I suppose americans are simply mediocre in writing.

dunno, could be their language and culture doesn't seem capable of great literary expressions.

Or could be we don't understand american soul and therefore we don't see greatness in their stories.

From what I see americans are good at contemplative poetrhy.

>>14340747
then why japan writers literally sucked dick of western genres and styles when they met big american cock in XIX century?

they literally copy and clone all western ideas.

asians are bug people that can't invent something new.

>>14340615
Hey, no longer human was a pretty good book man.

>>14340757
>reading japanese literature that was written after the XIX century

>>14340773
what has japan written of worth before the Meiji restoration?

Genji monogatari?
Poetrhy?

Where's the japanese shakespeare, dante, dosto, joyce, voltaire?

>>14340786
>Voltaire
Kek
Genji monogatari has more value than anything this hack ever wrote

Because of their lack of strong religion beliefs.
They are too materialists.
If you really dig their culture, story even if you watch their television programs you realise what a joke of a country it really is.

>>14340674
Dazai was based, you tard

>>14340807
That soap opera has no value apart from showing the strength of japanese propaganda that somehow made retards believe it is the first novel.

>>14340615
>no mention of mishima yet
is this even /lit/ i'm browsing?

>>14340615
I think they have great works in terms of what they are best at. see The Book of Five Rings by based Musashi.

Not true.
t. a Keiji Nishitani reader

They have some passable works, but most are permeated by a loathsome servile and passive streak.

>>14340615
Asians don’t write very well because they lack emotional depth. The Japanese are probably the best writers out of the lot though. Maybe you guys should get jobs and go visit some of these countries. You’ll understand what I mean.

>>14341460
Just a bunch of fags around here these days

>>14340615
it all goes to their comic books, it's where the money is at.

>>14341460
Mishima is low-quality "they made me read this in highschool" tier. Patriotism was the Japanese To Kill A Mockingbird.

Woman in the Dunes was really incredible. I just finished it.

Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa is dope

I disagree. Murakami is comfy to read. Pewds disagrees too

>>14340757
America=/= Western

>>14340615
This is awesome spiritual martial philosophy

also 5 Rings and other ninja writings

>comfy
>pewds
>MURAKAMI

>>14343693
Based Bananaposter. Genuinely the only Jap author worth reading.

check him out. he was basically a 4channer in his day.

Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita is godtier, no english translation though

>>14340615
>>14340674
>>14340686
>>14340728
>>14340757
>>14340773

Read Edogawa Rampo you pseuds

>>14340651
>Godzilla roar
OP didn't say why do they make good stuff you know

What about this chad?

>>14344223
Is murakami good?

>>14345096
He's alright, some of his books are great and others are absolute ass garbage. It's a mixed bag.

>>14345096
I'm not the anon you're replying.
I'm reading The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and it's amazing; fantastic descriptions of suburban Tokyo, interesting characters telling their stories and some touches of magical realism.

>>14340651
> Omai wa mo
> SHIN DERU

>>14345096
>murakami
He not good but since he does not take himself seriously if you want to pass time he can give you some comfy reads though you'll have to put up with his fetishes, oh and id only recommend him for people in their late teens and early twenty's.

>>14345096
Can I piggyback off of this question and ask one of my own?

I recently got copies of Wind Up Bird Chronicle and Kafka on the Shore. I've never read any Murakami before. Which do I start with?

>>14345096
he's like YA fiction and murakami is an obvious pervert. pretty comfy though if you're like a teenager or a very young adult as that other guy said

>>14345202
norwegian wood is the best book he wrote

>>14340850
bump. dazai for life.

?

Implying you can judge the whole of Japan's literature without being able to read in Japanese, without seeing what the author actually wanted to convey, because you are reading through a translation. Having read some works which came from my own country having been translated into English I can tell that there's no way the translation is able to have the same depth as the original, it can merely get close to it. And also having read translated works in Japanese in the past and then having reread them in Japanese after studying the language, the experience is completely different.

>>14340615
They have no soul or emotion.

>>14342139
>The Book of Five Rings

Lol, the book has zero depth. It basically advises the reader to flout convention in order to win. Musashi won all of his duels from cheating. He goes off topic to talk about carpentry and managing people. This guy's highly overrated.

Reading this at the moment, I find it's very good. Focuses on the head of a family and his harem of geishas and how individual they are. I read before the coffee gets cold last week. That book is very weak in comparison to something like Bonchi, but I kept with it because it's short and the concept is cool. The translation was rubbish though and it felt more like a book written by an american than by a japanese person.

>>14346203
>generalizing an entire nation of people

>>14345202
I think norweigan wood is his best book too. I found Kafka more enjoyable out of those two however.

>>14340615
Yasunari Kawabata is one of the few Nobel Laureates in Literature who actually deserved the award, and Snow Country is a masterpiece.
It's also a super comfy winter read.

>>14345096
He can be.

>>14344223
He has good books. Why doesn't lit like Murakami. Just to be contrarian?

>>14340843

This guy knows what he's talking about. I don't think there has ever been a single person who went to Japan and was not disappointed, and left disgusted.

>>14342327
No one in Japanese high school reads Mishima. Most college students haven't even heard of him, and the ones who have heard of him, and - lo and behold - even read something written by him, mostly hate him.

>>14345096
More like >more cummies

>>14340651
gomen gomen

Japan is the only nation that has decent porn.

>>14343785
I am reading Murakami right now, not great /lit/ but definitely comfy as hell. Nice slice of life stuff

It’s genuinely bug syndrome. They can’t really grasp the profundity of experience, anything is very literal for them. Love is not simply felt as some ephemeral force as it is in the west, it is reduced to some cause and effect, and even if it in fact actually is that, it should be explained in such a way but not experienced in such a way- yet they experience life through this categorisation. Notice how their morality functions. Again I don’t speak to fundamental truth here, but it is healthier to view morality as a sort of personal quest for some true ideal, it motivates passion and sacrifice. They don’t really share this personal conception of morality and operate more on shame culture, as in, morality is not “what is right” regardless of society (think about how western heroes always go against the system to do what is right), morality for them is “what is helpful”, what will motivate social harmony- it is not within the individuals right. Experience and meaning is decentralised in the bugman east, it isn’t personal or ineffable, it is a problem the experts who rule you have already solved, and you live via that lens. In this world, sentimentality can only be extremely forced and almost insecure in how saccharin it is (see any anime) much like your common atheist materialist going on about how we are stardust or whatever, it lacks any non verbal profundity, it lacks that twinge of commonly understood experience. This is essential to truly magical literature. Even writers like Nabokov who focus much more on craft than sincerity “get” this in some sense. Easterners simply don’t, or at least the vast majority don’t.

>>14340674
Wow you missed out mishima and dazai haha! Popular doesn't mean trash you fucking retard.