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14337474 No.14337474 [Reply] [Original]

Butterfly just BTFO nationalism

>> No.14337480

>>14337474
Cause and effect.
Capitalism causes mass immigration

>> No.14337493

>>14337474
>making a thread for this
How much are you seething?

>> No.14337498

>>14337480
Disparity causes immigration
You think the earliest civilizations were capitalist? People just want shit so they don’t die, whatever your system only borders prevent people flow

>> No.14337500

shes right you know

>> No.14337505

>>14337493
>not seething over butterfly
Hi welcome to /lit/
You’re going to hate it here

>> No.14337521

>>14337474
>problems are solved if you just give up and enter a state of uncontrol of your own fate
Wow just stupid enough to work!

>> No.14337523

bases butterfly

>> No.14337524

>>14337498
This to an extent, because clearly we still have our animalistic nomad within us.

>> No.14337566
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>>14337521
because thats unironically the case. people have to die for things to change

>> No.14337575
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14337575

>>14337474
>Capitalism causes prosperity
>Prosperity leads to immigration
Maybe this is too much of a big think for you tripfag.

>> No.14337578

>>14337566
>people have to die to stop so many people from dying
Fucking brilliant my man

>> No.14337593

>>14337578
You got it

>> No.14337598

>>14337578
>>people have to die to stop so many people from dying
You're trying to argue against a point you created. Stop.

>> No.14337599

>>14337474
> Nationalists support capitalism
I’m laughing at you right now borther.

>> No.14337602

Please shut the fuck up about this nigger.

>> No.14337604

>>14337480

>Capitalism caused mongols and moors

Ok, Tranny

>> No.14337612

>>14337599
Nazism is literally the principles of capitalism unbound.

>> No.14337621

>>14337612

Nah, its quite heavy handed state interventionism

>> No.14337626

>>14337621
You're wrong and I am right.

>> No.14337631

>>14337626

No, go be a nigger somewhere else

>>14337474

Communism causes emigration
/thread/

>> No.14337647

>>14337612
/his/ here. No, it's not.

Post-1938 Hitler put Goering in charge of the economy giving him sweeping powers to nationalize industries, arrest businessmen for "hoarding", enacted price controls, rationing, state factories with indentured labor, basically turning Germany into a socialist planned economy.

The Nazi economic model, like all planned economies, was completely unsustainable, which led the Nazis to invade half of Europe in order to loot assets and labor in order to prevent economic collapse. There is a good book explaining it all, by Adam Tooze.

https://www.amazon.com/Wages-Destruction-Making-Breaking-Economy/dp/0143113208

I suggest you shut the fuck up about topics you are clearly ignorant about. Read more, type less.

>> No.14337651

>>14337575
Your missing big piece of the puzzle and simplifying beyond what butterfly did. But seeing as how such ideas are beyond a tripfag such as myself, I will let you with your massive anonymous intellect sort out what that is.

>> No.14337662

>>14337575
WHatever you say gaybo

>> No.14337666

hey butterfly
wanna butterfuck?

>> No.14337670

>>14337647
>/his/ here
>capitalist propaganda
>muh Nazis wuz unstable socialists
Who would have guessed?

>> No.14337688

>>14337647
I'm not even gonna bother with your anglo-revision of history. It's all subversion and psyops.

>> No.14337692

>>14337670
>one of the most acclaimed books on German economic history is propaganda
>everything I disagree with is propaganda
Your childish attempts to cover the sun with your hand are trite and futile.

>> No.14337700

>>14337612
You people are so fucking stupid and ideological hahah

>> No.14337717

>>14337670
Behold, the No True Socialism idiot.

>> No.14337723

>>14337666
That reminds me of a webm I saw in gif. People stick the dumbest things in heir ass now

>> No.14337725

>>14337647
>/his/ here.
>expecting this gives you any sort of authority status here

>> No.14337734

>>14337474
>Let us solve an infected wound by skinning ourselves
Blown. Away.

>> No.14337741

>>14337688
>Nazi Germany had Soviet-style Four Year Plans, they even called them as such
>retarded commies on /lit/ deny Germany was a planned economy
lel

>> No.14337748

>>14337670
Youre not making your side of the debate look very good tbqh

>> No.14337756

>>14337598
Can you point me to the post where I argued for anything?

>> No.14337759

>>14337734
Read some anarchist theory. Or don’t you read?

>>14337741
>He doesn’t know
As usual. Willfully living in the dark.

>> No.14337764

>>14337575
Pseud cringe

>> No.14337774

>>14337647
>/his/ here

Stopped reading

>> No.14337778

>>14337756
You fabricated a strawman where you accuse anon of trying to argue his point was about minimizing deaths despite the irony in that.

>> No.14337780

>>14337759
>anarchist theory
That’s like saying “masterpiece of finger painting” or “armpit fart sonata”

>> No.14337789

>>14337780
Back to your containment board

>> No.14337790

>>14337759
>As usual. Willfully living in the dark.
All I'm seeing here is that on top of being ignorant you are also too lazy to come up with a proper retort.

>> No.14337791
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>>14337670
>>14337688
>>14337725
>>14337774
Shlomos defending judeo bolshevism

>> No.14337798

>>14337778
He literally said people had to die for things to change
The only assumption I made was that that which we wanted to change was violence/death, as inferred by the work referenced in his photo
Not a strawman, just able to infer and reason beyond the confines of that which is explicit
Care to try again?

>> No.14337809

>>14337789
You’re posting on it ya stupid bitch. You’re the one who seems to have trouble with the meaning of words

>> No.14337813

Is this basically just saying that if capitalists didn't wage imperial and economic wars on poorer countries then there would be no immigration as every country would be just as stable?

>> No.14337816

>>14337626
>he thinks right and wrong exist

>> No.14337830

>>14337647
>was completely unsustainable, which led the Nazis to invade half of Europe in order to loot assets and labor in order to prevent economic collapse
You are mistaken cause and effect. Hitler wanted his great war and build the economy according to his plans. There was no socialist ideology behind it beyond the demand for absolute power over every aspect of life by the NSDAP.

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14337835

>>14337791
>Nooo muh judeo bolshevism

>> No.14337843

>>14337830
/thread

>> No.14337860

>>14337575
>prosperity = making at least $1.90 a day

why are modern capitalist standards so laughably low?

>> No.14337869

>>14337830
>You are mistaken cause and effect.
More like cause---> effect ----> Cause ----> Effect

>Hitler wanted his great war and build the economy according to his plans.
You are right, but as Tooze correctly argues, once the German economy was brought under state control and geared towards war there was no backing down possible without an economic collapse, which is true.

>There was no socialist ideology behind it beyond the demand for absolute power over every aspect of life by the NSDAP.
There was National Socialist ideology, which like all totalitarian ideologies was indeed a cover for absolute control of the government over the lives of the individuals.