/lit/ - Literature

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New month, new book.

Sandershit a shit.

comfy

>>14292172
>tfw all these eastern european wuxia novels

Supreme magus is going to shit but lith might turn it around.

>birth of the demonic sword
One of my favorite protagonists of all time but the stories crashing.

I believe BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish. My reason for believing this is because I have a foot fetish so I pick up on things most humans do not. Take for instance the ever shitty House of Cards. Now, I do not like this show (House of Cards) but I did sit through 4 seasons of that crap hoping it would get better, and in that time I noticed numerous examples of blatant foot fan service. It is a good fetish to pander to because it occupies a gray area due to the lack of nudity, which is why its perfect for a guy like BRANDON SANDERSON. Reading Mistborn, I can't help but notice how many times we are reminded of Vin's cute bare footedness. She's barefoot on the roof, toes clutching the edge. She's barefoot on cobblestone, only to walk on marble. Vin walked to his bed BAREFOOT, making no sound. Of course the obvious explanation (for the mundane majority of men) is that Vin is a Mistborn -- a thief -- and strives to remain quiet. She has to make lots of sacrifices due to the magneto magic of BRANDON SANDERSON'S world, such as never wearing toe rings or anklets (unless they are wooden or something) but I do not believe this is the sole reason for the foot prose on display in these books. The author (BRANDON SANDERSON) has fueled my spirit with his depiction of Vin. I have a hard time getting through the pages when I keep seeing examples of her beautiful foot-based dexterity, yet its these very passages that push me further on. I see visions of Vin toying with Elend, giving her man a royal footjob that any king would crave with her expertly trained toes. I think about Vin embarrassed, painting her toe nails to match her dress while Zane watches from the window. I think about her wearing glass slippers to show off her new feminine toes at the balls! Oh what a sight to behold! I am not even on the third book so I can't begin to imagine how much footy goodness is still to come. Anyway, these are my reasons for suspecting BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish.

First-time /sffg/ visitor here.
What should I read if I like UC Gundam?

>>14292401
The Expanse

I'm starting Perdido Street Station for the 7th time today. Will I make it this time, bros?

>>14292297
I know this is probably pasta, but a lot of people have fucking transparent fetishes.
>Martin
tomboys
age difference
ugly males
femdom
>Bakker
rape
monster rape
cuckolding
maledom
sissies

>>14292547
I forgot
>Martin
fucking incest

>>14292547
I recently started reading Kingkiller and boy oh boy if that author isn't the biggest cuck I've ever seen.

>>14292547
yeah but none of those are feet
b a s e d b r a n d o n

I am absolutely in love with Joe Ambercrombie's First Law series. What books are similar to this series?

>>14292705
Mark Lawrence. But I would recommend reading good books instead.

>>14292705
Bakker. But read something better.

>>14292563
Martin also enjoys food I think.

>>14292232
Interesting take, care to elaborate?

>>14292717
>>14292730
Why do you dislike Joe Ambercrombie? I thought the characters were interesting and I liked how technology actually progresses in his novels. I also liked how the series seemed black and white at first but actually became much more nuanced as the series progressed.

>>14292214
>the ice schooner didn't win
fucking how

Gibson's best after Neuromancer

>>14292705
You'd probably enjoy The Black Company by Glen Cook.

any good pretentious science/fantasy? im looking for something that takes itself seriously and has the chops to back it up. something with meaning that supersedes pure entertainment while hopefully nailing the entertainment anyway

goddamn why is all the best hard sci-fi so bleak and depressing?

i already know the answer, i just want to talk about it

>>14292812
I've read that series and I did like it. Thanks.

>>14292830
The Terror by Dan Simmons is cool. It's loosely based on a true event and was written by a History Teacher.

>>14292544
how do you like it? I'm reading The City and the City (it's my first China) and I love it. Quick prose, decent detective story (I don't really read these types of stories so it's new to me), interesting ideas.

>>14292904
Embassytown is his best, most thought out idea for a story, really really good. I started with Kraken and enjoyed it throughlly

>>14292544
No, it's a mess of a book. If you want to try China try The City and The City, which is tight.

when was you when you realized /sffg/ voted for the shortest book of the poll

>>14292830
Pretty sure that's the definition of BotNS. Along with religious undertones it has loads of metaphorical ramblings and little puzzles you're supposed to work out from small clues in different books and uses ancient roman and greek words just to make the reader look things up. Why do you think it's so highly rated here? Completely inaccessible to the normal reader so the average 4chan contrarian loves it

>>14293094
i was sat at home drinking brain fluid when fred ring. '/sffg/ is die'. 'no'. and you??

>>14292865
I'm paraphrasing Hodgson here
>Man and his character are shaped by Love and Pain

>>14293137
BotNS is well liked because of many reasons, contrarianism being the least of them.

fuck, i keep forgetting to include important or thematic details when I write scenes, or including things that could benefit from being kept in reserve.

>>14292547
Card
>little boys
>accidental murder

>>14293165
Do you think Card ran someone over with his car and his conscience keeps trying to butt in, like in Tell Tale Heart?

>>14292730
Dude, Bakker and Abercrombie aren't similar at all. What are you smoking? Bakker's books are pseud works with relatively fancy prose focused on metaphysics and trying to emulate Dune and LotR. Abercrombie's works are more similar to Malazan than anything, though even there the comparison isn't that good. They're just adventure stories with some grim elements.
>>14292705
I was the guy that asked last thread if you were shitposting, and it's because I find First Law pretty unremarkable. Sure, Glokta or whatever his name is was fun when I first read them, but nothing stuck with me long term. Still, I only became disenchanted with Abercrombie completely when I read Best Served Cold or whatever it's called.

>>14293094
I did because I didn't know any of the books and don't want to sink hours and hours into something I don't particularly like.

>>14293213
You aren't being forced to participate.

>>14293202
I enjoyed Best Served Cold. It's probably the weakest book in the series but it's still fun, especially the brothel assassination. Book 5 and especially 6 are great.

Starfish

>>14293347
STARFISH

>>14293234
What the fuck, no one told me this, thanks for saving me from servitude anon.

>>14292195
>>14292232
>>14292297
> High Levels of Autism Detected.

>>14292865
Met Peter Watts last winter. He seemed to be so... undeluded, about everything. He seemed to be authentically losing his mind over global warming. I think most people are biased towards optimism while he (and maybe other hard sf guys) can't look away.

>>14293382
You're welcome. May you go in peace.

Rec me some books that are on kindle unlimited.

>>14293878
That wasn't the pic I wanted to post, but oh well.

>>14292811
How's Gibson for someone who is English SLC?
I heard he uses a lot of slang.
I'm comfortable reading Philip K. Dick for example, so not sure if I want to go into something I would have to google through if his slang is such.

>>14293477
No wonder his “works” are so bad then
Delusional lefties ranting about irrelevant things like climate change while ignoring all the real issues

>>14293878
Cradle
Trysmoon saga
Super sale on super heroes
A mark of kings
The wraith’s haunt
The order of the white hand (book one only is KU)
The sun rider saga
They mostly come out at night

>>14292806
More people vote than people who actually read whichever book wins. Lurk more. They're fucking rigged.

>>14293137
I've read it already, but yes, aspects of it are definitely akin to what i want. I didn't find it particularly entertaining outside of the prose, in fact it's a series that's hard for me to like despite the fact that i love it.

>>14292779
He can only write a few different characters
>Tough, grizzled, disillusioned veteran
>Pompous, skilled southerner that's showed the error of his ways
>Woman who just as tough and fierce *rawr* as ANY man
>Woman who uses sex and threats to control a social circle
>Wizard
Combine with the shitting, the pissing, the hawking of cold spit onto mud and the low stakes of every novel after the trilogy, I got tired of him

>>14293144
Home phone and voice go that happen when
No

>>14293878
>>14293884
Just the kind of person I'd expect to have kindle unlimited

>>14292705
I’ll second Mark Lawrence but he’s pretty awful. And I enjoyed ambercrombie

>>14294193
It was $0.99 for 3 months.

>>14293477
>losing his mind over global warming
Doesn’t he realize it’s climate change now? (((They))) had to change the name to make the farce more believable

>>14292705
The first law was also my big breakthrough in fantasy. Just gonna throw some books at you and see if anything stick.
Path of flames - Phil Tucker
Grim company - Luke Scull
Half a king - Joe Abercrombie
Prince of Throns - Mark Lawrence
The Red knight - Miles Cameron
The way of Kings - Brandon Sanders

If you like vidya you can move straight to litrpg with the rest of us

>>14293202
I used to think First Law was amazing until I read more fantasy. I think people over hype the books because they're the first fantasy that they read.
Gave up completely after starting his YA series because he just repeats the same characters

>>14294348
I'm not exactly a novice. I've read The Book of the New Sun and Wizard Knight.

>>14294180
> Low stakes

Books 1,2,3,4 and 5 all dealt with continent-spanning wars. How is that low stakes?

>>14294487
If you haven't read over 50 fantasy books you are as fresh as a newborn baby

>>14292705
damn that's a nice cover.

ASOIAF was similar, Tyrion is a lot like Glokta, goes through a similar arc (exiled then triumphant return).

>>14293878
the hell is wrong with you? just for that give us the sauce

>>14294531
I unironically probably have.

I recommend the Dao of Magic.
If you want a western cultivation novel without the crazy bugman shit, I highly recommend this.

>>14294774
I prefer Cradle and Lord of the Mysteries. I got a good ways into that one before very fast pacing really wore me out and made things feel meaningless.

>>14294774
I feel like I read this and dropped it for some reason

>tfw final book of Coiling Dragon
>Big Dick Linley talks MAD SHIT to the Chief Sovereign of Light in front of all the other Sovereigns
>Chief Sovereign of Destruction shows up for a whopping five seconds to have Linley's back and tell the Lightfag to cut his shit out

>>14294798
>Lord of the Mysteries
How is that one? It'd be nice to find another Western xianxia, especially since I've lost the bulk of my interest for Cradle after the latest book.

Does malazan jumps povs between books? I dont have a problem with multiple povs in a single book but I cant deal with changing povs between different books. Basically like the warded man. It was the three MCs I think in book 1 and then book 2 completely switched to a bunch of muslims in the desert and I dropped it.

>>14294835
Don't read Malazan.

>>14292249
>Not reading them in order of print.

>>14294831
It's like a xianxia using an occultic magic system and thematics, with an in progress industrial revolution (first all steel ship just got rolled out of dry dock at the beginning of the story) setting. I'm also a sucker for webs of intrigue and characters pretending to be something they're not. The scope starts off very small before gradually opening up, and one of the best aspects of the story is the way characters all come off as having their own agendas and self motivation. The MC isn't the only actor in the story, and it's very refreshing for a xianxia-like.

>>14292214
so are we not allowed to discuss it until the 30th?

>>14294774
I'm reading it, currently at chapter 75 of 280, story-wise is lacking, too much telling instead of showing.

>>14294852
because it does exactly that? Is each book completely different characters or does it just add new ones?

>>14294976
>Is each book completely different characters or does it just add new ones?
Yes.

>>14294853
>not reading them in order of whatever cover strikes your fancy as an impressionable early teen pilfering the mysteries of the local library

>>14294979
Well is each book in the series some self contained story with all the character arcs wrapped up in the end or do they make appearances 5 books later? I'm trying to find and excuse to give it a try because everyone says how good it is. I just hate getting invested in characters and the author ditching them for extended periods and potentially introducing boring shitty characters

>>14295012
>I just hate getting invested in characters and the author ditching them for extended periods and potentially introducing boring shitty characters
Don't read Malazan then. Genuinely.

>>14293955
Dont know to be honest as I've only read Gibson in English. But his slang isn't too much, if there are any they're probably easily translatable

>>14295009
This is the correct way.

>>14295012
>Well is each book in the series some self contained story with all the character arcs wrapped up in the end
you can say that
>or do they make appearances 5 books later?
and that too
>I just hate getting invested in characters and the author ditching them for extended periods and potentially introducing boring shitty characters
There's the great overarching story across all the books, and all the big and small stories in between. The individual books are pretty massive by themselves so there's a lot going on.
Some characters you meet again and again but there's no guarantee. The series switches continents between books, and though groups of characters travel between them, you mostly get a new set for each. So you have to wait a book or two to hear from your favorites again, if they're not killed of. But even getting killed isn't always an indicator that we don't see someone again, as we learn in the first book.

It's a good series but it needs time and patience, a willingness to go with the flow, as it tends to meander. Loooong build ups to epic confrontations, or deadly blades seemingly out of the blue.

I'm looking for something modern that's equal parts existential dread, modern day esoterica, re-imagining religion and hero's journey.
Any suggestions?
I'm talking stuff like hobos with shotguns escorting a kid with visions of angels to the ruins of Damascus while they delve deeper and deeper in madness. I'm taking total shlock

>>14295118
>I'm talking stuff like hobos with shotguns escorting a kid with visions of angels to the ruins of Damascus while they delve deeper and deeper in madness
i'd read it

ASIMOV
S
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M
O
V

>>14295123
Me too that's why I'm looking for it.

>>14295118
Kraken by China Miéville
>An inexplicable event has occurred at the Natural History Museum, London—a forty-foot specimen of giant squid in formalin has disappeared overnight. Additionally, a murder victim is found folded into a glass bottle. Various groups are interested in getting the squid back, including a naive staff member, a secret squad of the London Metropolitan Police, assorted religious cults, and various supernatural and mostly dead criminal elements. The wondrous squid represents deity to the Church of Kraken Almighty. Did they liberate their god, or could it have been stolen by a rival cult? The only thing that all agree upon is that the fate of this embalmed kraken is intimately tied to the End of the World.

>>14295166
This is the kind of shlock I wanted anon, thanks. Gonna start it asap.

>>14294888
It'd be a faux pas to discuss it in the thread, but there's nothing to stop you from doing so. Feel free to discuss at any time in the group in the OP.

Has there ever been a bigger waste in all of SFF?

>10/10 ideas
>7.5/10 writing skills
>0/10 plots
>0/10 endings

"Wow this set-up is amazing. Ok we're slowing down. Ok a good 100 pages of this 300 page novel could be removed and it would be an improvement. Really? That's how it ended? Another bullshit ambiguous ending because you're not actually smart enough to wrap everything together?"

He's like the Stephen King of sci-fi, except King's books are twice as long and his endings are not ambiguous; they're just bad.

>>14295235
It's quite sad because he has to publish so much so quickly to make money to live. A lot of it was first drafts without any editing at all.

>>14295235
Read more than maybe 3 books of his.

>>14295262
Why did t he just live with his parents lol

>>14295279
Because he was a severely mentally ill druggie loon who had 5 wives and children with 3 of them, among a myriad of other issues.

As a related matter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isa_Dick_Hackett

I wonder how often children of writers continue their parent's work.
It's been the case with Tolkien, Herbert, Dick, and many others.
Jordan didn't have any children though. Neither does Martin.

>>14295504
>Isa Dick
heh

>>14294248
>>14294248
Remember to drink your kool-aid, burgermutts.

I saw someone recommend this book once when people asked for pre-Tolkien fantasy.
I'm currently reading it and enjoying it, but I'm starting to get the feeling I might be too dumb to understand it. Do I need to be knowledgeable about religion and the Bible to fully get it?

>>14295960
Steve Donoghue?

>>14295993

I'm starting my very first Discworld novel, The Color of Magic. Did I fuck up?

>>14292425
Not him but while I've never read or seen it, can't believe that missed me. Is it okay to watch the show without reading the book first?

>>14292544
I'm so glad it's not just me. While I thought it was intriguing, it was kind of a hard read and moved at a snail's pace. Maybe one day.

>>14296118
Discworld kind of follows a flattened bell curve of quality; the first few books are only okay and aren't really representative of the style of the rest. Still not an awful idea to start at the beginning because the first few books introduce a lot of stuff that gets revisited in the actually good ones.

Just finished this. Overall, I enjoyed it. The snarky humor could be a little grating at times, but I appreciate exploring a big, dumb object. I wasn't sure where it was going, but I was pleased with the Beowulf ending.

>>14296175
Tried to read Children of Time by this author and I just gave up. Dude is a garbage writer and you can tell he's a neckbeard just from reading his work.

>Choose your race
>human
>Choose your class
>rogue

And dropped

>>14294774
How much bugman shit does it cut out?

I enjoy the Chinese view of morality if the world they live in supports it.

What are some good fIantasy novels that basically show a character's entire life, like Stoner does?

I have this fantasy universe in mind, and I think I first want to approach it with something written like a biography, maybe even a memoir. No major world-changing events, just a guy's adventurous life going through a series of things that are relatively commonplace in it, painting a cohesive and complete picture of the world in question. Reading something along those lines for influence would be good.

>>14296235
>choose your race: elf
>choose your class: ranger
Into the fire you go.

>>14296235
Is this what litrpg is?

>>14296359
Basically
>protag gets to own a village or settlement
>immediately leaves to spend the next 3 books in dungeons

oh shit you guys are reading ice? that’s been on my list a while maybe I should go pick it up. how do you guys like it so far?

>>14296304

>>14293477
Checked.
He sounds like he might be a faggot.

>>14295118
I have no idea what books have what you just described, but I would be greatly interesting in reading one that did.

>>14296118
The show is a must, it's probably the absolute best SF show of all time. Books are good if you like space opera.

>>14295118
Sounds like Good Omens quite a bit.

>>14296371
I can't eveb imagine what kind of autistic cretins would read this shit.

>>14296384
Sounds like A Boy and His Dog meets Night Land told by a survivor of The Terror. Should be good.

>>14296235
>Litrpg
>Dont even start reading that garbage, famalam.

>>14294835
>Does malazan jumps povs between books?
It even jumps povs between chapters or even paragraphs.

>but I cant deal with changing povs between different books.
Don't read it then.

>>14294976
>Is each book completely different characters or does it just add new ones?
Both.

>>14295012
>Well is each book in the series some self contained story
Sometimes a part of an individual book can be seen as a single story, often not.

>or do they make appearances 5 books later?
10 books later.

>and the author ditching them for extended periods
Don't read Malazan then, Characters can easily reappear 4 books later and multiple times the author switches continents with only limited character continuity.

>>14292547
Erikson is clearly into femdom, obese women and "mature" women.

>>14297561
is tatty sail a mature women?
cause all i know is reading scenes with her makes me want to do the bdsm very much

>>14297636
She is mature and kind of fat.

>Muad'dib's Jihad
>Lasts 13 years
>Kills 61 billion people galaxy-wide
>Sterilization of 90 planets
>40 different religions exterminated along with their followers
>All using knives

LOLWUT?

>>14292830
The Book of All Hours by Hal Duncan. It's a duology, the first book is called Vellum and the second is Ink.

>>14293278
Same, I think Best Served Cold and The Heroes were his strongest books, but a lot of people really didn't like BSC.

>>14294835
Yes, also it's not worth reading anyway.

>>14292779
>>14292705
>>14294519

>>14297792
The Fremen being super soldiers makes no sense outside of Dune. Not to mention that they have barely any real military experience and theres only a few million of them

>>14294531
>If you haven't read at least over 150 fantasy books from different authors and genres you are as fresh as a newborn baby
ftfy

Any of you guys read the Powdermage? Did Brian McCuck ever give an in-universe explanation for half of the random soldiers being women? I get why this would be the case for Powdermages and Privileged, but why normal mooks? Are normal humans in his setting fundamentally different from people in the real world? Fucking breaks my SOD

>>14298115
If lesbian women want to die in wars, more the better. You will have pussy home that actually wants dicking. And the lesbians in the army will learn to love dick.
It's a win win for all.

>>14298115
Tbh I read the first two books and I never got the feeling that "GIRL POWER" was shoved in my face in any way. The female characters were just characters and not some obnoxious sjw statement garbage. So I do not get why this concerns you at all.

>>14298307
It's pol, the want a meme world where wahmen are in the kitchen and always wet for cock and breeding the next generation, and men go and kill things for made up reasons.
They are so brainwashed by their own rhetoric and dogma that even when they read fiction they can't see a woman in any role other than kitchen, and get their Jimmies ultra rustled when they do.

>>14298115
I don’t even remember any characters that aren’t powder mages, privileged or best girl Ka-poel

>>14298515
Great taste, senpai

>>14298307
He said what the problem was in his question you mongoloid.

>>14298537
So women are too retarded to fire a fucking musket ? Fuck off nigger.

>>14298552
If you can't understand what the actual issue is then don't respond, please.

>>14298537
>anon didn't mindlessly agree with him (me)!
Crossboard elsewhere and headbutt a railroad spike, newfag trash.

>>14298564
If you're going to get so assblasted about anon's question then then it's obvious there isn't any decent answer, lol.

>>14298558
>OH NO WOMEN IN MY ARMY I CANT SUSPEND MY DISBELIEF.

Explain it the niggerlover.

>>14298587
>why can't I mindlessly stir shit whenever I want to?!
So who is your dad, your grandpa or your uncle?

>>14298620
It seems I'm doing a decent enough job for almost no effort.

>>14298617
If you cant' figure it out yourself, then you won't be able to answer it, so there's no use explaining it to you.

>>14298655
>If you cant' figure it out yourself, then you won't be able to answer it, so there's no use explaining it to you.

>>14298696
That's how it words, smoothbrain. Don't reply to my posts again.

>>14298716
>That's how it words, smoothbrain. Don't reply to my posts again.

>>14298587
>>14298558
>>14298537
>>14298115
Why are you pretending like you're different persons?
Why would you do that? What does it gain to pretend?

>>14292172
Any reccs for high fantasy that DOESN'T suck tolkien's dick (something similar to the witcher or the chronicles of narnia)

>>14298920
There are hundreds of high fantasy books that doesn't follow Tolkien.

Damn you were supposed to sell malazan to me. When I said can't deal with different povs between books I meant more emotionally rather than being too stupid to follow the story because I get really invested in (good) characters. Is malazan secretly some throne of glass-tier meme? I listened to the general thread consensus on black company and botns and loved both of them.

>>14295235
>Has there ever been a bigger waste in all of SFF?
Okay. Who's better in his specific sci-fi subcategory?

>>14299079
Well there are a bunch of new characters in each book and there are certainly characters you can become invested in.Sometimes it takes a bit until a character you might like returns, but there are 10 big fucking books with plenty of opportunity for that.

Of you like the soldiers in black company you will probably like the malazan army soldiers, they are fucking rad.

>>14294348
Well, I'd say they're fun for like a simpler audience, maybe for the people that want a swashbuckling adventure or whatever. But the worldbuilding is pretty shit, and I don't think that's an unfair criticism. I'll be honest with you, I remember almost everything that happened in Malazan and I read it far longer in the past than First Law, and I barely remember the events of First Law. Shit's just kinda boring. And I don't say this as a Malazan fan. I even remember Rothfuss' shitty book, because it was so infuriating. All I remember from Abercrombie's First Law is Glokta and some brown girl. That's it. But I do remember intensely feels of 'meh' as the realization that it would never go anywhere better slowly sank in. It's the perfect kind of book to give to your dad or uncle or whatever because it's so inoffensive.

>>14294570
>Tyrion is a lot like Glokta
Not at all, you might have actual brain damage if you think this. All they have in common is being retards and quippy. That's it.

>>14296118
The first Discworlds are good to start with, but Pratchett hasnt really come to his best yet in those, so they dont represent the rest of Discworld.

What do you guys think of H.G. Wells?
I read 'The War of the Worlds' this year, as well as his novella 'The Time Machine', both of which I really did enjoy. I also bought 'The First Men in the Moon' which I plan on reading in due time.
Any anons recommend any of his other works? I genuinely love his stories and he's quickly becoming one of my favourite writers.

>>14299191
YO

>>14292172
How many people are in the /sffg/ goodreads group?

>>14299079
I thought Malazan was hot garbage. To begin with, Erikson is a piece of shit like Bakker that thinks he's so much smarter than everyone that no criticism is valid and you're just subhuman IQ if you fail to understand his masterful work of a... fantasy series.
Don't get me wrong, Malazan has its moments. I would say the third book would probably make an amazingly satisfying movie if you ever wanted to do that (though it pulls at your heartstrings unfairly). But Erikson is a terrible writer and an even worse storyteller that fails at connecting things properly and you might even finish the series and not have a clue what the world actually looks like unless you have that kind of autism to actually study as you read. Everything that Martin does so well in conveying things simply, Erikson executes in disastrously poor fashion. It takes him fucking for-EVER to convey the simplest points.
The worst part of it all, though, is probably the fact that you will have to slog through hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of trash with characters you hate to maybe get one short scene in which a character you like actually shows up again. There is literally no guarantee when the people you like will be in a book again, so there's no way to even skip like you would a legion while reading Horus Heresy. You just have to sit there and go through those long-ass books reading about annoying bitches you hate on the chance that MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, you'll get to see the character you like for one second.
Lastly, his characters are mostly trash. Like, real talk, Malazan is a combination of Warcraft-tier storytelling and characters and capeshit. If you love Warcraft and Marvel, you will probably love Malazan, it's as simple as that. Just don't go in expecting any depth, competent storytelling, or respect for your time.
I would only recommend Malazan to someone that isn't particularly intelligent and has a lot of time to burn that he has no desire to spend on useful things.
But, hey. At least he actually finished it. That's more than you can say for most of these faggots. And in terms of quality, it never takes a dive nearly as bad as Erikson's Second Apocalypse does.

>>14296221
how is echopraxia compared to blindsight? I've read mixed things about it

>>14299239
Nevermind I see it now. There's 36 members

I was thinking of joining but thought better of it.
I don't want my revealed to people on here lol

>>14299316
identity revealed*

>>14299246
Is his prose at least good?

>>14299177
I don't really get why people think it has good worldbuiding. Barely any of the world is shown and what is shown is very generic. The characters are good but they can only carry the boring plot for so long.

>>14299325
Nothing to write home about. It's good enough that you won't stop reading because of how horrible it is.

>>14295118
Dhalgren

>>14297561
>>14297636
>>14297739
picked up, didn't know erikson was so based

>>14299850
Dhalgren is sweet, definitely worth checking out. Delany conveys mental illness/existentiality really well. My only criticism is that the book is ~150 pages too long for it’s own good

>>14297739
>fat
fuck, gonna have to overwrite that in my mind

>coiling Dragon is now an Audiobook
Alright cosmerefag. Your constant shitpost about this shit got me intrigued. Will give book one a try.

>>14300172
I thought of her as those girls you just want to breed. They are chubby, but you just want them. It's like they put out fuck pheromones.

I wanna try reading some normie fantasy just to see what its like, though im split between Wheel of time, Name of the wind, and Way of kings. Which one is the least shit?

>>14300588
Brandon is really good so I'd say him

>>14299252
I think it's better. If you didn't really get Blindsight, though, then you'll probably like it even less.

>>14300588
Dragonlance Legends

>started The Dark Forest yesterday
>mfw reading the part where the guy invents his own waifu because his gf told him to

>>14300588
WoT is too long, WoK is unfinished and I haven't read Name of the Wind. Suggest you expand your search.

>>14298104
I always assumed it worked like any other religious war and they converted much more people along the way. Otherwise it makes no logistical sense.

>>14299223
In my opinion its hard to get into Wells' stories from a modern perspective, because he's the forefather of "big idea" science fiction and so many of his "big ideas" just became foundational elements of scfi in general. Like how the first section of The Time Machine is just the main character explaining, at length, the concept of a machine that can travel through time. That's why I think his stories that hold up best tend to be his more obscure ones.

>>14300986
Is Dragonlance actually good? I was always turned off by the words "tabletop game setting".

>>14301276
It's "able". It hits a spot. Not a high mark, but a spot.

>>14301058
Death's End is even better, wish I could be reading the series for the first time again like you anon

Is there any fantasy writer that isn't utterly cringe when it comes to military issues?

>>14301390
I've recently a lot of fantasy about relatively powerless people in dire world-ending circumstances and I kind of just want to read a story about capable heroes on an adventure. Are they good for that?

>>14301418
Tell me what's wrong with them and how you would make them better.

>>14301488
He’s the gender parity autist

>>14292830
Max Gladstone's Three Parts Dead is sublime. interesting take on faith and gods but through actions, not philosophical ramblings. plot pacing is great, characters are interesting and the ending is worth the wait.

>>14301418
About as many that aren't cringe when it comes to sex and relationships.

>>14301488
Epic reddit debate techniques bro, I just want recommendations so I'll pass

>>14301437
It's not about good. It's about the adventuring party -- the mix of races, classes and alignments, thrown right across home plate. It's archetypal to the genre. Tolkien reflected through the mirror of D&D. If you read a lot you should read it. If time forces you to be picky, it's a maybe.

>>14299316
>>14299320
No one cares about your identity, you deluded narcissist.

>>14298307
Nah, that's completely fine. If a girl can do a no-scope 420 blaze it with a flint lock pistol from a kilometer away by snorting coke, or is a literal WMD, of course she's gonna be used for military purposes. My problem is, why when the main characters starts murderblending their way through an army of no-name NPCs, half of them are women. Like, do these countries draft women? If so, for what reason? Are women in powdermage physically the same as men?

>>14293477

>Undeluded

He also got in some kind of lunatic fight with a border patrol agent and had a Reddit AMA where he started advocating killing cops at random as a good policy idea. He's not some super pessimist, he's just a garden variety asshole who uses politics as an excuse to act like an asshole. Also the whole premise of Blindsight is fucking dumb and there are very obvious evolutionary benefits to consciousness (just read Thinking Fast and Slow or think for ten seconds yourself on how useful the ability to simulate past or future social or survival scenarios is). In short Peter Watts is a rageaholic moron posing as an intellectual.

>>14299079
there's no general thread consensus on malazan, its 50/50. read it if you want, we don't really care.

>>14301838
sounds like a huge faggot unlike me

>>14296304
I’ve noticed Gene Wolfe’s shorter fiction does this. He creates an entire universe for each of his stories but only focuses on a slice of a specific person’s life in that world. Try the Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories.

>>14298139
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>14298515
Well, there's also the skillmonkey character. Michael is pretty cool, I think, and he's just your standard human. Ka-poel is cute and also mai waifu. I bet she would never cuck Taniel.
>>14298537
>>14298558
>>14298587
>>14298655
Based /pol/chad!
>>14298617
>>14298552
Allright, you autistic faggots, I'm back and I thought it was obvious what my problem was, but since it's so clearly not, I'm going to have to explain it.

First, being a soldier is not just picking up a musket and going pew-pew-pew. Have you read the books? There were a ton of cases where a pitched melee broke out, or the poor faggots had to affix bayonets and charge, or get run over by horses or whatever. So, in that aspect physical capabilities will obviously affect how good of a soldier you are. And guess what, a man is gonna be much better at stabbing shit with his bayonet

Next, what do the armies in the books spend most of the time doing? That's right, fucking marching. Now I'm not autistic enough to know what kind of loadout they're carrying, but they're probably not marching with just their clothes. Now walking all day, every day for 6-12 hours, while carrying heavy equipment is fucking exhausting. Men are better suited for this kind of task than women.

Third, these are armies, paid for either by the government, or by private citizens. You can only have so much equipment, and you can only have so much money. If you want to maximize your army effectiveness, and you do, then you're probably better off recruiting more physically fit people, which as it happens women are not. Maintaining strict gender quotas is a good way to get your country wrecked in a war.

Fourth, none of this applies to characters that have some kind of magic power. Powdermages can explode people with their mind, and snipe people really good. Privileged are D&D wizards and can do pretty much whatever they fucking want to. Bone-eyed can make a whole army ignore morale penalties, and do other spoopy shit. They are so valuable they can make or break a battle, and they are rare. I think the percentages for men/women with magic powers are the same, so it make perfect sense that bout half the important people we see are women.

But not normal people. If you're talking normal people, at least 99% of combatants should be men, with the 1% being outliers in the same way Ben Styke and Dragonmen are outliers. No magic, but still can wreck a lot of shit.

That web serial guy that's been posting. Stop insulting the Zombie Knight Saga. Literally the only good web serials are the zombie knight and mother of learning, every single other one on your list is rubbish.

>>14301838
>>14301862
this isn't your safespace, shitheads

>>14302017
just wear a tripcode next time so I can filter you

>>14302244

Stan some guy who's not a drooling retard next time. "Derr how could consciousness evolve that's not possible, how could that possibly help you survive, it's a fluke." Watts is an idiot. He wrote an idiotic book and he essentially acknowledges that his premise is stupid in the climax ("Don't you DARE fucking tell me we evolved a consciousness because it helps you learn to more effectively because if you fucking DARE tell me that my theory looks stupid!"). Fuck Watts and fuck you.

>read fiction novel
>be upset when fictional premise happens
WHOA WHAT
How do we manage to attract such bottom-of-the-barrel double-digit IQ literal retards?

>>14302562

>science fiction novel
>why do these people think the premise shouldn't be retarded science

Go back to the Sanderson foot fetish part of the thread.

>>14301276
Dragonlance is surprisingly deepest lore in its connected trilogies; I recently read it for the first time last year and it was surprisingly enjoyable, a lot better than I imagined.

>stronk womyn
>gays
>blacks
>jews and their tricks
>anything other than 2 genders
>trans
>(((human rights)))
>(((diversity)))
>sjw stuff
>ugly women
>fat women

Need books without this garbage. I have read close to 600 books and this shit is common. I hate it. I just want to read some fun non politically correct BS now.

Any fun smut litrpg or other to read? Or anything with asian women. Huge yellow fever fag here with jap fiance.

Does /sffg/ like Glen Cook? I just finished Swordbearer and the Black Company books. What a blast it was. Any other authors like him?

>>14301418
Glen Cook. Scott Baker

>>14301418
Malazan Book of the Fallen

>>14301418
I liked Shadow Campaigns and theres nothing you can do about it.

>>14292297
Interesting theory friend. I believe Robert Jordan has a foot fetish too. I noticed he uses the word TOES a lot in the female pov chapters. Enough for me to notice it's irregularity. He does not write any lewd foot scenes but my suspicion is there.

>>14303199
Ask on >>>/pol/

>>14303205
If you read enough Conan you'll probably find him saving some Asian tart at one point. The one in Afghanistan, "The People of the Black Circle", is about him trying to savefuck an Indian princess

>>14303252
WoT is full of fetish shit. The amount of Spankings, casual nudity, people getting restrained is too damn high.

You guys are making me paranoid about having any sort of scene involving any body part whatsoever. If I write about someone dipping their toes in a cold pool, am I now a foot fetishist? If they happen to be tied up, a BDSM fetishist?

The Elric Saga is finally getting a tv series and I don't like it.

>>14303602
You'll never make it with a mindset like that. and also, stop giving time to such trite matters.

>>14303602
Its only inherently degenerate if you sexualize it in your scene. Otherwise its the dude that reads about normal shit and jacks off thats at fault.

>>14303709
It’s not anyone’s fault that having a busty female tied up is inherently attractive.

>>14303199
Just read Gene Wolfe books over and over. That's what they're made for.

>>14299246
>Everything that Martin does so well
Even if everything you said was accurate, this should expose you as an idiot.

Martin is pretty much the anti Erikson, where the one is able to function as an author at all the other is 5 books into a trilogy he is never going to finish. One is rehashing stereotypes, the other is avoiding them like a plague. Your criticism makes no sense, as Martins premise allows him to convey things by analogy.
The not-Vikings on the islands, the non-Greeks on the other side of the see, etc. Martin is just playing of stereotypes, which makes it very easy for people to understand the world. Erikson really does not have that Luxury at all.
And so holding up Martin as someone who did it well and Erikson as someone who didn't makes no sense.

I think that some of your points are fair criticism and I can see how someone is overwhelmed by a lot of characters he isn't all that Interested in, although everyone who expected otherwise from a 10.000+ page series is probably not the brightest light bulb, but some of your points are down right idiotic.

>>14303803
Not him, but is his work weird and in any way similar to Planescape: Torment?

>>14302700
Hard sci-fi readers needs to be culled.

>>14303602
Have you read the books which are talked about?
It isn't like people are extrapolating from one scene, but from themes which are recurring again and again.

>>14303199
Who let you out of pol? Should have asked there.

>>14303815
The unreliable narrator stuff he loves to go for is kinda like Planescape: Torment, and one of them is even an amnesiac. In that regard the story telling is kind of similar.

Aside from that, I'm not sure what kind of connection you're looking for.

>>14303830
Something entirely different and unique from the rest of the show, props for something that has immense reading value so that I can come back to it time and time again. I know he's a big cat in the genre and highly acclaimed, so I've been meaning to read him for a while now.

>>14303205
I think there is a smut chart and litrpg chart in the OP.

>>14303215
My favourite author. Read Port of Shadows if you haven't yet.
His Garret Pi series is pretty good if you liked the banter between characters in Black Company

>>14294266
>The Red knight - Miles Cameron
Commit suicide any time

Any good sci-fi novel that shows space colonization and things like that from a technical perspective and the practical issues they'd face?

I accidently contracted autism playing Factorio and have been fascinated by how thing are made since, would like to see a sci-fi author take on that.

>>14303944
Red Mars

>>14303944
How autistic are you willing to go?
If you want maximum autism where the books are more technical manual then actual story you wanna look into Chris Hechtl.

>>14303812
>Even if everything you said was accurate
Which it is, thanks.
>Martin is pretty much the anti Erikson
Not really, Martin's been writing before Erikson even had an inkling of what writing a series consisted of.
>where the one is able to function as an author at all the other is 5 books into a trilogy he is never going to finish.
Completely irrelevant regarding whether or not Martin is a better prose-writer and more effectual storyteller - protip, he is, on both accounts. I guess you wouldn't be so ass-pained if you weren't an Erikson fanboy, as I don't even particularly care for Martin's books.
>One is rehashing stereotypes, the other is avoiding them like a plague.
Erikson's characters are literally cardboard cutouts, my dude. What the fuck do you mean rehashing stereotypes? What does that even have to do with anything? Whether or not a character is stereotypical has zero to do with their depth. And while Martin has some unfun characters, they all feel far more real and engaging than literally ANY created by Erikson, whose characters are fucking jokes on the level of the worst kind of vidya. And I'm not sure how Erikson doesn't engage in stereotypes, almost all of the characters I can think of from Malazan are pretty stereotypical as far as fantasy goes. I mean, most fantasy I can think of that I've read IN GENERAL is full of stereotypes, regardless of quality, so what the fuck are you talking about? Perdido Street station is full of weird creatures, but the characters are still total stereotypes for what they are supposed to embody from the human realm.
>as Martins premise allows him to convey things by analogy.
Why is this a bad thing? Like you realize you can't just drop a descriptive statement like that an assume that I'm somehow supposed to infer how this is wrong when ASoIaF regardless of its faults is literally fucking LIGHT YEARS ahead of kiddo trash like Malazan?
>The not-Vikings on the islands, the non-Greeks on the other side of the see, etc. Martin is just playing of stereotypes
This doesn't really have anything to do with it, though, my subhuman IQ friend. Most of Bakker's worldbuilding is ripped-off from late ancient history and the Crusades, nevertheless, he doesn't do a good job of conveying locations and factions beyond the basics. Does Martin have some simplifying aspects to his writing? Sure, the Greyjoys being Krakens, the Lannisters being Lions, it's all pretty capeshitey. But you can rest assured that if Martin were working with Erikson's world he'd still do a far better job of dishing out a plot in a form that's engaging and instantly connects people to the world. There are literally hundreds of books that copy Vikings, Romans, Greeks, etc. and all of them have storytelling as bad as Malazan. Try again.
>And so holding up Martin as someone who did it well and Erikson as someone who didn't makes no sense.
Kinda does, considering they're entirely responsible for everything you're reading.

>>14304110
>I think that some of your points are fair criticism and I can see how someone is overwhelmed by a lot of characters he isn't all that Interested in
I'm not overwhelmed, I am disinterested. Most of them are bad characters and I don't care for them in the slightest, they bore me out of my mind. There are literally like 4-5 characters in total from Malazan that aren't total dogshit, the rest are literally throwaways. What, you couldn't get enough of Whisky Jack or something, motherfucker? You thought that was top tier content? Get the fuck outta here.
>although everyone who expected otherwise from a 10.000+ page series is probably not the brightest light bulb
Yes, I'm sure when most people pick up books in an interconnected series, they're expecting to read about vastly different characters each time they start a new book. It's almost like shit like this is what made people (and probably Martin as well) lost interest in ASoIaF past book III. It's fine to introduce new characters, but when it comes at the expense of old ones you done fucked up good. If you can't think of five to ten central characters that are pivotal to your story and need to around at all times, then your story is probably a disjointed mess, as Malazan is. And no, this has nothing to do with "lol my story is too complex". WW1 is complex, and a professor can break it down a lot faster than any of you faggots can do with Erikson's convoluted high school tier garbage.
Face it, both you and Erikson got blown the fuck out, take this to the Malazan subreddit or somewhere else where clowns that think your indignant statements about "lol he used STEREOTYPES in commercial fiction!!!" pass for arguments. And even with all its faults (and there are many, trust me) ASoIaF will always, fucking ALWAYS be infinitely superior to anything Erikson puts down, because Erikson is an arrogant cocksucker that will never improve or admit he did wrong. Cope more bitch.

>>14294266
>Prince of Throns - Mark Lawrence
Is this series actually good? I remember trying this book and legitimately cringing throughout the entire first three chapters or so. Does it ever get really good?

>>14303199
Congrats on defining "politically correct" as "literally anything I don't like".

>>14304124
No, but it becomes so bad it's good.

>>14303709
Go to church then you prude cocksucker

>>14304389
You're making me curious now. Will you shitpost about it with me if I read it?

>>14304579
yes.

>>14304110
>Not really, Martin's been writing before Erikson even had an inkling of what writing a series consisted of.
You missed my point. Congratulations.

>Completely irrelevant regarding whether or not Martin is a better prose-writer
Yes.

>and more effectual storyteller
No. GoT is a disaster of a story. Martin does everything wrong you could possibly do wrong with is symptomized by him being completely able to *actually* write the story from beginning to end.

>characters
We were talking about worldbuilding, not characters. Second time you missed my point entirely.
Read my post.

>What the fuck do you mean rehashing stereotypes?
I give specific examples, Martin's entire world is real life projected onto fantasy.
His world is basically not-Vikings, not-Mongols, not-Greeks, not-Europe with it's different climate zone and le stoic nordlanders and let promiscuous south landers.
Everybody with a tiny bit of world history knows what Westeros is like.

>Why is this a bad thing?
It isn't. It just means he has no issue with explaining his world, since everyone knows basically all about it.
Third time you missed my point.

>Most of Bakker's worldbuilding is ripped-off from late ancient history and the Crusades, nevertheless, he doesn't
Okay. You can have an easily explainable world and explain it badly.
Who cares?
Missed the point for the fourth time.

>my subhuman IQ friend
Let me guess, you are an American mutt?

>Kinda does, considering they're entirely responsible for everything you're reading.
If someone succeeds at something easy and someone else fails at something hard, then saying "This guy accomplished his easy task, so you suck" makes literally no sense.

>>14304115
>What, you couldn't get enough of Whisky Jack or something, motherfucker? You thought that was top tier content? Get the fuck outta here.
Yikes. Have you read book 8?
It's not like ... you know?

>Yes, I'm sure when most people pick up books in an interconnected series, they're expecting to read about vastly different characters each time they start a new book.
Well, I did at least.
But I am not some 85 IQ mutt, so it is hard for me to judge things like that...

>If you can't think of five to ten central characters that are pivotal to your story and need to around at all times, then your story is probably a disjointed mess, as Malazan is.
Maybe you need a 110+ IQ to follow a dozen characters stories in your brain?

>WW1 is complex, and a professor can break it down a lot faster than any of you faggots can do with Erikson's convoluted high school tier garbage.
"Austrian dude gets shot, everybody dies"
"A God gets pulled to the earth, everybody dies, even the dead"

>Face it, both you and Erikson got blown the fuck
I do not think you made any particularly compelling point. Most of your attacks were just "X is shit", which of course might be a very good argument for yourself not liking it, but for a serious demolishing you should try a more formal approach of trying to crystalize out weak points in the story and together with examples reasons for these weak points state your case.

Let's say I want the setting to my story to be bleak but not over the top bleak and edgy to the point of it being unintentionally hilarious like what Abercrombie does. Any tips on how to balance it out?

>>14304653
>>GoT is a disaster of a story
>better told than malazan
>better characters
>better worldbuilding
>better prose
I mean I'm fine with you calling a disaster, but I hope you know that means Malazan is bottom of the barrel garbage?
>Second time you missed my point entirely.
You literally have no point, lol. Your entire point comes down to
>lol well erikson didn't do not-europe so that makes him better
It doesn't. His world is boring as fuck and his worldbuilding poorly implemented into the story itself.
>Everybody with a tiny bit of world history knows what Westeros is like.
They don't know, since Martin's story is about interpersonal relationships and history, which is exactly what Erikson fails at. I hope you realize that providing adequate backstory and helping readers understand how things are connected is good worldbuilding, too, right? That are we aren't greasy manchildren judging worldbuilding by how "cool" something is written on the wiki? We are talking about worldbuilding as it is implemented in the story, as it is presented to the reader, which in the case of Malazan is AWFUL. OBJECTIVELY AWFUL. And before you go
>durrrr it's all your opinion
Let me remind you of the fact that most people fucking hate Malazan because of how incomprehensible it is, and that isn't because Erikson's prose is too high-IQ for people to understand - the guy writes like a teenager. It's because his storytelling is awful. Not only is he too stupid to have any kind of complex relationships, but he's definitely too bad a writer to present it. No wonder he wanted to make movies, like I said, he's basically writing capeshit for children. If a talented writer got access to Malazan's world and story, she might actually be able to make it decent.
>Let me guess, you are an American mutt?
Nope, just pointing out that you're definitely subhuman for not being able to argument in the slightest, not understanding the difference between good and bad world building beyond "I can't tell what the inspiration for this was". You are the very definition of a low-IQ assblasted faggot bleeding out his ass because the shitty author he thinks he's special for understanding despite his retarded inability to write and arrogant refusal to improve makes him special. No one with half a brain would say Malazan is better than ASoIaF, not even if they DESPISED Martin. As many, including myself, fucking do.
>If someone succeeds at something easy and someone else fails at something hard
Failing at writing a story with the depth of the fucking Clone Wars isn't hard, I'm sorry. He's just bad.

>>14304722
>>14304722
>Yikes. Have you read book 8?
I think this illustrates my point perfectly. How many pages did it take for you to get there, huh? How many pages does it take in general for ANYTHING to be enjoyable? Depending on what character you like, you might read this entire fucking series and not get a satisfying resolution. I do not find that GOOD WRITING. Especially when the story moves at a fucking snail's pace. You can literally cut out entire chunks of this story and nothing of value would be lost, absolutely fucking nothing, and all the edgy characters are so cringe I don't know how it's even POSSIBLE to defend them as a grown man.
>Well, I did at least.
Then I'm glad you admit you like it for completely fucking arbitrary reasons.
>yes, i expect an author to treat me like a retard and write about different character despite leaving the previous ones we wasted nearly a thousand pages on unused and suspended
Amazing, bro, truly amazing. Tell me more about this amazing writing technique where your character growth is irrelevant and the reader is forced to wade through rivers of shit in order to get to the few bits that are worthwhile in order to get to the end of a branching story. The goblinoid take, to be expected of a Malazan retard.
>But I am not some 85 IQ mutt
Nigger, Malazan is predominantly beloved by mutts. What the fuck does this comment even mean? It's not even translated in my country past the first two books because nobody gave a shit about it, lol. Just what the fuck?
>Maybe you need a 110+ IQ to follow a dozen characters stories in your brain?
You can have as many characters as you want, you dense fuck. ASoIaF has hundreds of characters. But for the first three books, it does a pretty good job of keeping focus on the important ones and not switching all over the place. It does not fucking abandon characters for no reason in order to start a new plotline despite finishing the old ones unfinished. Like do you actually think that having thousands of pages of filler with boring characters like WoT and Malazan that do jack shit to move the plot forwards is 120 IQ storytelling? Actual retard.
>"Austrian dude gets shot, everybody dies"
>"A God gets pulled to the earth, everybody dies, even the dead"
Not even close, but nice try. Though this does remind me and all the lurkers of how fucking pointless the Chained God was. Yet again, another reminder of why Erikson's story is shit.
>I do not think you made any particularly compelling point.
I already made all my compelling points in my first post, ape. This was to point out how fucking retarded you are and how nonsensical your defense was.
>trying to crystalize out weak points
Already in my first post. Piss poor plotting and worldbuilding, boring characters replacing important ones frequently, filler subplots meant to expand the """world""", snail pace, quippy Marvel humor.
Don't reply to me ever again, faggot.

Finished Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch
Liked it a lot. Any good sci-fi lists aside from OP?

>>14304398
How is that prude you fucking monkey, you are free to jack off to whatever floats your boat I dont give a shit, but if its not intended by the author then its your fault not his.

>>14304770
Just add some rape and mud here and there.

>>14304838
I'm reacting to the term "degenerate".

>>14304813
Even with makeup she is still ugly. Delete that pic this instant. If you're going to post caked up whores, at least post ones that look attractive with the make up.

Post books with good worldbuildings.

What are some essential cuck kino?

>>14303815
>but is his work weird
Yes
>and in any way similar to Planescape: Torment?
No, Moorcock is more similar to Planescape

>>14304869
This is not /tv/, retard.

>>14304856
Ah fair enough that could be interpreted as prude. I was being hyperbolic though.

>>14304869
Kingkiller Chronicles is what you're looking for. Sword of Truth series had a bunch of weird pseudo NTR shit going on in it as well. Since this thread brought up author's who insert their fetishes, I'm shocked nobody brought up Terry Goodkind. He's one kinky fuck.

>>14304124
>Is this series actually good?
No.
>>14304389
>but it becomes so bad it's good.
It does not.
It is as trash is, don't even pick it up.

>>14304925
I liked the part where he convinces an AI to kill itself so he can reach a nuke which he sets off by setting it on fire.

>>14304124
That that like that series really like it. Those that don't tend to hate it.

However his new Book of the Ancestor series seems to be much more praised by most people.

>>14304813
>>14304771
>>14304722
>>14304653
>>14304115
>>14304110
>>14303812
>>14302017
>>14299246

>>14304938
That, and the part where the twerp wins a swordfight with a master duelist by pulling out a handgun, is exactly why this series is shit. Is this series such a "good" parody of bad fantasy, that it actually ended up being just god-awful fantasy? The whole thing is just too insufferable.

>>14304938
>he convinces an AI to kill itself so he can reach a nuke which he sets off by setting it on fire
Wait what? Is this still a fantasy series?

>>14304990
Yes, because 2 magogs out of a tribe of magogs join his party just before that and he has to fight a Necromancer. Which he does, using arrows. Fucking arrows.

>>14304990
Yes in the same way that Shannara is a fantasy series.

>>14303215
David Gemmel
Paul Kearney
Karl Edward Wagner
Janet Morris
>>14303944
The Venus series by Pamela Sargent

What should I get for my mom? She likes stuff like this. Guy Gabriel Kay and girl dragon tattoo. I'm looking for something she would like without appearing to insult her by buying fantasy trash. (She knows I regard the genre with some disdain)

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>>14305136
"Bear" by Marian Engel

>>14305213
Fucking love that book

>>14305136

>>14305136

>>14305337
The anime was so shitty I couldn't finish the second episode.

>>14305337
The anime was so good I came with the second episode.

>>14305337
>>14305291
Why couldn't my mom be attractive? I don't mind incest , but my mom and sister aren't attractive enough to give me boners... My aunts and cousins though...
>tfw will never experience son and mom skinship

>>14303199
Read xianxia. Chinks hate all of that. Especially human rights.
The only problem they have from your list would be strong women, but they're only strong so when they raped by protagonist into submission they behave like good girls.

>>14305593
>Why couldn't my mom be attractive?
Mine is, it's cool to have a cute mom but it's not like she will let me fuck her so it's a little frustrating and it doesn't help that she is super clingy and is always hugging me.

>at the bookstore and see lotr boxset I've never seen before
>has kind of neat art on the box and books so I decide to look it up when I get home
>it's a boxset literally designed to appeal to children to get them to read tolkien
b-based.. haha...

>>14305696
Trick her into fucking you. Work out so you get a chad body, then drink her drunk, then admit you always loved her and go for a kiss. See what happens after that.

Also
>dat pic
How do the japs make fatties look so attractive? If I saw a person that fat irl it would disgust me, but I wouldn't mind fucking the fatty in that pic. Is it because the jap's fatties have smooth skin?

>>14292830
I've enjoyed the demolished man.

>>14297792
Dude spice lmao

>>14297338
Haven't read the book, but The Expanse show is the most boring Sci-Fi thing I've ever seen/read/etc.

>>14306463
Smooth skin and unrealistic weight distribution.

>>14303884
I haven't read that book, bits in the charts in the OP, whats bad about it?

>>14301515
>Max Gladstone's Three Parts Dead
Is this really good? Sound like Redit the book.

>>14305212
you need to make a better list or i might do it myself one weekend because these books are mostly awful

>>14292544
It's some good shit mate; I got into it by the time chapter 7 came by but most people get into it by the time the slake-moths are introduced. If you manage to get through it you'll get to by far his best work the Scar (aka the sequel to PSS).

>>14306556
Thanks for proving you're an idiot.

>>14306463
>How do the japs make fatties look so attractive?
They are not, you are just an American.

>>14306718
Tell me why you disagree. Its non complex/uninteresting politics, only in space. It offers nothing of value, or anything that hasn't been already done better by other works.

>>14306584
>what's bad about it
Read and find out if you want to so bad. We wil know if you're a readlet afterwards by your responses.

>>14306648
>Is this really good?
The first book was a 2.5, the second book shit the bed completely. I was memed the book years ago, I wouldn't recommend it.

>>14306657
Please do. Finding books with young guys pummeling mature pussy is hard as fuck. It's mostly older guys and young girls.

>>14303199

>>14306737
>ahaha sick burn, got that "pizza is a vegetable" burger lover
I'm not American, you underage prepubescent boy loving fuck.

>>14306796
ok ill put it on my to do list. why did we have to be mommy fags ?

>>14304968
I find it funny how on a lit board people are so lazy to hide they don't read posts, let alone books, they outright tell you.

Where did the tree hugging fag go? Kind of miss him bitching about trees being destroyed in the books he read.

>>14306936
I'm just not reading your boring uninteresting posts. It's holds no value whatsoever, and I actually felt brain drain reading most of them.

>>14306936
If anything, reading more makes one less tolerant of bullshit lacking of substance.

>>14305212
Why would you want to fuck an old used up, blown out, pussy, that had decades of constant use?

>>14300588
I like the world and writing of Kingkiller Chronicles, and as of now its just 2 books. Setting aside some spiteful ghosts, sympathy magic, and a vegan dragon, it feels very low fantasy or historical fiction as one person wanders through a shuffled version of medieval europe. But for the duration of the NotW that hes in the university Kvothe is such an annoying Gary Sue, its rough

>>14306829
Oh so you are just some sort of a disgusting fetishist weeb?
Well that makes it all better.

>>14306809
Have you people no shame?

>>14300588
Do not read kingcuck chronicles. Reading all of the wheel of time for a third time is better than reading that dumpster fire.

>>14306862
>ok ill put it on my to do list.
Not him, but eagerly waiting for that list.

>why did we have to be mommy fags ?
No need to complain, its the best fetish.

Any books where the author includes their diaper fetish?

>>14307608
All Sanderson books.

>>14300080
Surely you meant Dhalgren is 1,500 pages too long... it was the first book I gave up upon.

>>14300000
>>14299999
I wonder what this shit was.

Is there such thing as good quality simple fantasy adventures? Stuff that's good, but stays focused on just being a good romp. Sort of like Jack Vance but less tongue in cheek.

Where is out autistic thread maker?

>>14307264
okay homo
>>14307471
based
>>14307813
The Elenium

Thread is closing and no slave in sight.

Last psot

>>14308188
last spot

If I were to read one, and only one LitRPG book, which would it be?

>>14308311
Russian litrpg are better than most

>>14308311
The wraith’s haunt

We on page 10 and the new slave is dead. Goodbye sffg, thanks for the 5 years.

throne of glass by sarah j ass is the best book i ever reeaded

Let it end. It's finally over. We're free.

Oops, I got distracted with what I was doing and lost track of time. I'll make the new thread now.

NEW THREAD
>>14308980
NEW THREAD