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>>14288443
Stoicism is fuck you, and keep on living, keep on getting better.

>>14288443
>'things are not as bad as they seem and your ability to cope is greater then you think'

>'some things are up to us and some are not up to us'

>>14288900
Sounds like typical millenial

>>14288443
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/stoicism/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stoicism/wiki/faq
For a more thorough discussion of Stoicism, read Epictetus's Discourses. Unlike Seneca, he was a lecturer and his discussions were aimed to students. Seneca writes assuming you've the basics of Stoicism down. Then, to see an actual student reminding himself of the teachings, read Marcus Aurelius's Meditations, preferably alongside Hadot's The Inner Citadel.
If you're lucking for more beginner-friendly introductions, read: Robertson's Stoicism and the Art of Happiness, Farnsworth's The Practicing Stoic, and Salzgeber's The Little Book of Stoicism.
For a podcast, Fisher's Stoicism on Fire
http://www.traditionalstoicism.com/what-is-stoicism-on-fire-episode-1/
>>14288900
I've never read about the "fuck you" part; I probably missed it.

>>14288443
Epicureanism: Indulge the world
Stoicism: Endure the world
Cynicism: Overcome the world

>>14288443
the key to understand esgoycism is to see the world as a greek or roman would see 2k years ago

So is there a stoic counterpart to this video
"Epicureanism: Indulge the world" is incredibly wrong
https://youtu.be/hBWDIzHldPg

>be a useful goy
there I summed it up for you

>>14291168
cringe, normalfags are easier to control because of how emotional they are.

>>14291216
>yes goy being emotional is for inferior normalfags, don't get angry just accept the lower salary and unpaid overtime, OK? good goy

>>14291233
t. never read stoicism

>>14288900
>keep on getting better
but why

Stoicism = taoism

>>14290125
>r*ddit
>podcasts
>pop-philosophy
Go back

>>14288443
No shit, you just read some dudes letters. Get the Oxford World's Classics Epictetus book; read the enchiridon for the how, the discourses for the why.

>>14291980
Epictetus wrote after Seneca. Seneca was not writing in wake of Epictetus, rather Epictetus has the most rigorous body of work.
>>14290125
Cringe. don't listen to people who link to reddit.
>>14291980
Do listen to this guy. The Oxford Epictetus + Seneca's Letters + Aurelius is the ultimate Stoic library. Oxford's collection is great, but the edition places the Enchiridon at the back, and the discourses at the front, when the discourses are much longer and denser reading material when understanding the philosophy.

>>14292017
https://www.amazon.com/Discourses-Fragments-Handbook-Oxford-Classics/dp/0199595186/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=oxford+epictetus&qid=1575545928&sr=8-1
Here's the Oxford on amazon.

>>14292017
>don't listen to people who link to reddit.
It's as if knowledge doesn't have a rightful owner; knowledge is common property.

>>14288443

Stoicism = virtue is necessary and sufficient for happiness. It is the only good. Pleasure, material wealth, etc are neutrals. They won't make you happy or unhappy. But your desire for those things can make you unhappy. You should do nothing for the sake of pleasure.

Cynicism = virtue is necessary and sufficient for happiness. It is the only good. Pleasure, material wealth, etc can reduce your virtue. So, you should avoid them and instead live a simple and austere life, where you depend on nothing.

Epicureanism = pleasure is the good. Pain is the evil. But the greatest pleasure is the complete absence of pain. And you can only achieve complete absence of pain and have the greatest kind of pleasure by having virtue. So, in order to be happy you should live a simple and austere life, where you spend your time discussing philosophy with your buddies.

>>14292367
Yes.
Reddit's faq is not that bad

>>14292367
Go back