/lit/ - Literature

>sci-fi containment morons
>cumbrains
No surprise there.

>>14264485
Go away tranny. Back to your discord.
Git!

>>14264494
Trannies are terminal stage cumbrains.

>>14264479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX
Is anyone here using it to write a book?

Best discworld book?

>>14264508
Wat?
Why would you subject yourself to it?
Latex is primarily used for symbol heavy academic work.

>>14264498
I said git!

>>14264518
Because autism, which is common here.

>>14264479
haha imagine if one morning you woke up in her body wouldn't that be weird haha

>>14264524
Yeah but you could use your powers of autism for good. Or at least to make your life easier.

Why is Esslemont so bad in comparison to Erikson?

>>14264539
>>14264518
>>14264479
cosplay fetishist of low quality patreon thots

>the 3dpd guy is back and he is pushing his patreon thots harder than ever

>>14264545
Well we have to spice up this thread somehow.
I am sure that an Internet Puritan such as yourself disapproves but just like in real life no one listens to you.

>>14264528
haha imagine one morning that you woke and realized you were trans wouldn't that be weird haha

book

>>14264566
THE SPICE MUST FLOW!

>>14264566
What a pathetic array of tools. This isn't titillating at all, try a giant robot or something.

>>14264598
This is /sffg/, Sexy Fit Females General, we don't discuss books.

Who's the Isaac Asimov of fantasy?

>>14264610
The more I see of that game, the more hilarious it gets.

>>14264566
>Well we have to spice up this thread somehow.
Relying on sex appeal is the lowest form of advertising. How about actually have quality content?

report and move on

>>14264674
If it will stop you from whining fine.
This is not exactly sci-fi but close enough (it helps that the book is far better written than the usual sci-fi or even worse fantasy fare).

Ignition!: An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John Drury Clark (with foreword by Isaac Asimov)

I can not recommend enough this book. This was a wild and hilarious ride through all the craziness of the propellant research during the hottest years of the Cold War.
These brave and hardy souls routinely came up (and worked with) some of the most hellish concoctions known to man.

I'll just leave this passage:
"There are, after all, some chemicals that explode shatteringly, some
that flame ravenously, some that corrode hellishly, some that poison
sneakily, and some that stink stenchily. As far as I know, though, only
liquid rocket fuels have all these delightful properties combined into
one delectable whole."

>>14264610
NO, DUNCAN DON'T FUCK MY MOM!

>>14264690
What a tranny thing to say.

This is why that sort of image isn't used for the OP.

>>14264640
>Fit Females
Then why is Sarah J Maas our queen?

>>14264776
That Pain Box looks weird.

>>14264800
Unclear if you just wanted to make a joke or are unaware of the British slang meaning of "fit".

>>14264815
>bring your mom so she can see you getting a handjob.
what did mother gaius meant by this?

>>14264643
A foundational work with big and innovative ideas but crap writing and characters? No idea.

>>14264900
Tolkien

>>14264514
Night Watch.

any books for this feel?
and friendly reminder that sanderfag a hack

>>14264571
No because becoming a tranny takes years and years of constant brainwashing and indoctrination.

>>14264933
You mean where the mom fucks the protagonist's chad best friend while he faps, then gets kidnapped by monsters where she becomes a seedbed for a few years and finally gets home, bringing a few monster kids and fucking them, the protagonist, chad, and whoever else rolls through the inn they own?

>>14264949
I meant something where the mc's mom joins the party, but if you know any book where milfs get fucked by monsters, shotas, virgins and chads sure i'm open to that too.

Saw the lynch dune for the first time in like fifteen years. I haven't read the books since middle school, and i do not remember this. Is that movie even remotely close?

>>14264974
The light novel series Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks?

>>14264978
It misses a lot of stuff and fucks up some of what's there. At times it does capture the atmosphere of the book but that's about it. I'm still mad about how they fucked up "My name is a killing word."

/sffg/ i need something to read. no dinoshit

>>14265182
Malaz-
>no dinoshit
Nevermind

>>14265182
>not already having tons of books to ready to be read
ok

>>14265200
I thought "dinoshit" refered to older books?

>>14264993
Already read that one, watched the anime too. that's why i'm looking for fantasy books with moms.
>>14265182
>no dinoshit
fuck you, go read the Worm Ouroboros and the Night Land right now

>>14264514
On average most of the Sam Vimes books are higher quality.

>>14265200
The K'Chain Che'Malle are based fuck off.

>>14265354
No they aren't, that is why based Andii BTFOed them.

>>14265354
>K'Chain Che'Malle
I actually thought people were joking about dinosaurs with blades for arms.
How can you defend this shit?

>>14265354
>long tails
>not based short tails
LOOK AT THIS DUMB NO HANDS LIZARDFAG

>>14265398
>How can you defend this shit?
What needs to be defended?

>>14265408
>What needs to be defended?
The OC Donut Steel dinosaurs with blades for arms you manchild.

>>14265418
>The OC Donut Steel dinosaurs with blades for arms you manchild.
But they integrate into the story in a sensible way? I guess you have some pre conceived notions about how a story with these dinosaurs should play out, but that notion is wrong.

>le worm emperor of spice

>>14265430
Stop digging your hole deeper.
It's painfully obvious you lack taste.

>>14265493
?

>>14265471
DUDE, GOLDEN PATH, LMAO

>>14265495
How dare you respond to me pleb?!

>>14265513
Make me stop.

>>14265398
Because its cool? Go fuck yourself.

>>14265398
>fantasy element in a fantasy series
Say it isn't so!

>>14265398
NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR MAGIC FANTASY DINOSAURS REALISTIC

>>14264566
You messed up by posting that pic. The mods will clean you up.

>>14265182
Redemption's Blade
by Adrian Tchaikovsky

Exhalation: Stories
Ted Chiang

>>14265398
Caste- and breed- based society that was "so shit" it died out, partly due to infighting because of one of the castes rebelling. Chill, the series isn't meant to be very high-brow intricate Tolkenian fantasy.

>>14265398
>this is the best modern fantasy has to offer
no wonder they think litrpg are good

Anyone want to debate me? >>14265781

>>14265795
You're a homosexual misogynist who only has empathy and understanding for your own problems yet expects others to be different.

>>14265834
No I'm not. Why would you say that about me?

>upload book I bought without properly removing DRM
haha whoops hope I don't get sued in X years

>>14265851
You feelings about trans are because you dislike transwomen because you dislike women so why ought to a man transition to being one and you dislike transmen because women shouldn't try to become men because you don't like them.

Basically, you're Milo Yiannopoulos

>>14265873
I'm sorry anon. But I can't make out what you're saying. There are too many typos, so it sounds like word salad.
However, I am not gay and I don't hate women. I do actively hate Milo Yiannopoulos, and have spent posts railing against him back when his face used to get shitposted on various boards. So it's ironic that you call me the exact thing I detest.

>>14265893
Yeah, detest him in the same way Ben Shapiro does.

please don't derail this thread and go back to /pol/

>>14265921
Thread has been derailed since the first post.

>>14265907
I don't get that reference, because I don't know anything about Ben Shapiro. Other than he's a right wing figure, right?

Anon, can you please stick to the arguments I presented? Rather than making false accusations about my identity. You don't know who I am or what I believe, except what I tell you. Because this is an anonymous website. Making guesses at who I am goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing.

>>14265943
No, I don't have any interest in the arguments you've presented. That's how 4chan debates function.

>>14265962
No, that's how shitheads on 4chan function. But at least you're an honest shithead, so I can ignore you now.

>>14265921
>a lefty/pol/ brings up his shit from the previous thread he ruined, intending to ruin this one
>g-go back to /pol/!
You're an idiot.

Please stop posting off topic cosplay shit, please stop discussing faggot shit.
There are boards for both
>>>/hm/
>>>/cgl/

>>14266059
Just don't reply to him people, it's not that hard.

>>14266058
If you didn't know, pol is the politics board. It doesn't matter what position you occupy. If you talking politics take your ass to pol.

>>14266067
Nobody is replying and he is replying to people and posting his patreon thots.

why is offtopic shitposting the only way to keep these threads alive?

>>14266068
Lefty/pol/ are the people against /pol/, they (you) post in every board BUT /pol/. Hence your catchphrase "go back to /pol/". A lefty/pol/ started this, he won'r be getting back there. Maybe to /lgbt/.

>>14266059
alittletasateofcgl.jpeg

About to start a russian wuxia (dragon heart). Is it good?

I'm writing a lighthearted fantasy romance novel about a tsundere warrior princess and a shy/awkward but noble and courageous knight. It's very juvenile, so they just blush/hold hands/kiss/cuddle.

>>14266127
Forgot my.pic

>>14266127
Degeneracy

>>14264514
Guards! Guards!

>>14266058
>>14266091
I'm not lefty /pol/. I don't browse /pol/. I don't really care that much about politics. The conversation naturally arose from the thought of what makes up a sophisticated society. Specifically, is homosexual tolerance an aspect of sophistication. And if such a thing is a reasonable expectation when reading fiction.

A lot of novels assume a certain baseline knowledge from the reader. For example, when a book says a character is "noble", that is a packet of assumed ideas. You have an idea of what being noble entails. So it doesn't need explanation, unless a character goes against the assumptions in some way.

So the idea here, is to figure out if it's reasonable to assume that house Atreides is tolerant of gays. How should the fact of their nobility and sophistication shape the expectations of the reader?

>>14266090
Newfags would rather discuss <anything NOT related to the thread topic> than <anything related to the thread topic>.

>finished wizards of the earthsea just now
That was nice.
Are the following novels as good and refreshing or should I try the lathe of heaven for some different Guin flavor?

>>14266103
The Russians are usually better when it comes to litrpg, i noticed. A Russian take on Chinese mythology might be enjoyable.

>>14266191
>Guards! Guards!

>>14265255
The second book in the Gentleman Bastards sequence has a adventurer mom.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActionMom

It's not played as sexy though. What you want might be better suited to self published stuff on Amazon.

Why are there so many degenerates that want to fuck their moms in this general?

>>14266502
because most scifi is degenerate, besides, Heinlein literally wrote a book about a guy fucking his mom and he's the first grandmaster of science-fiction and one of the big three.

>>14266630
To what lengths you disgusting excuses for human beings will go.

>>14266630
Fucking your own mom is a literary tradition as old as Oedipus Rex anon.

I've read the entry level stuff. Tolkien, Sanderson, Martin. Where do I go from here?

>>14266667
And pointing out how you and that "literary tradition" is fucked up is even older.
This is what lack of parenting does.

This thread is a shitshow. I've had a couple good discussions and a hundred retards meme their way out of them. Why is it so hard to keep focused on Science-Fiction and not some bs fictional arguments.

>>14266686
>Why is it so hard to keep focused on Science-Fiction and not some bs fictional arguments.
Because you have to actually read.
Right now we have some fag being butthurt for being called out, some dudes who are into fucking their mothers and people who actually defend Erikson's literary diarrhea.
The one thing that they all have in common?
They do not read.

With zero regards to anything else like creativity, world building or characterizations, what fantasy novels have the best prose? I've never read a fantasy novel that was actually well-written no matter how much I liked the book as an overall product.

>>14266133
Some of the prose is a little clunky, but overall I liked what I just read anon. You've got me sufficiently aroused. Post more!

>>14266672
you could read more entry level stuff like Salvatore, Eddings, Raymond Feist and Margaret Weis

>>14266679
forget it anon, it's GRItown

>>14266732
Yet they keep reading off each others replies like baboons do with feces. It's not that they don't read, they just value fight(ish) talks more than reading actual books. They're just using this thread to channel that crap.

>>14264479
What is some good acc scifi?

>>14266840
Well if you're up for a change of pace, I can not reccomend enough Ignition >>14264772.

>>14266836
No it's not. They can be cringy somewhere else. Also that librarian should't be walking the woods alone.

I believe BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish. My reason for believing this is because I have a foot fetish so I pick up on things most humans do not. Take for instance the ever shitty House of Cards. Now, I do not like this show (House of Cards) but I did sit through 4 seasons of that crap hoping it would get better, and in that time I noticed numerous examples of blatant foot fan service. It is a good fetish to pander to because it occupies a gray area due to the lack of nudity, which is why its perfect for a guy like BRANDON SANDERSON. Reading Mistborn, I can't help but notice how many times we are reminded of Vin's cute bare footedness. She's barefoot on the roof, toes clutching the edge. She's barefoot on cobblestone, only to walk on marble. Vin walked to his bed BAREFOOT, making no sound. Of course the obvious explanation (for the mundane majority of men) is that Vin is a Mistborn -- a thief -- and strives to remain quiet. She has to make lots of sacrifices due to the magneto magic of BRANDON SANDERSON'S world, such as never wearing toe rings or anklets (unless they are wooden or something) but I do not believe this is the sole reason for the foot prose on display in these books. The author (BRANDON SANDERSON) has fueled my spirit with his depiction of Vin. I have a hard time getting through the pages when I keep seeing examples of her beautiful foot-based dexterity, yet its these very passages that push me further on. I see visions of Vin toying with Elend, giving her man a royal footjob that any king would crave with her expertly trained toes. I think about Vin embarrassed, painting her toe nails to match her dress while Zane watches from the window. I think about her wearing glass slippers to show off her new feminine toes at the balls! Oh what a sight to behold! I am not even on the third book so I can't begin to imagine how much footy goodness is still to come. Anyway, these are my reasons for suspecting BRANDON SANDERSON has a foot fetish.

I want to marry Molly!

>>14266672
>sanderson
kill yourself my man

What is /sffg/ opinion on Anna Kavan?

I am looking to read SF and fantasy writers with surreal/dreamy stories, nothing past the 2000s.

>>14267194
Female auteur

>>14266672
Jack Vance Lyonesse

>>14266754
Taste in prose is pretty personal so any recs should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, GGK, McKillip, Dunsany are names that get tossed around on the fantasy side, varying shades of 'literary'. Howard is great for pulp, as is Vance. Tolkien is kind of a wildcard.

For Sci-fi I'd say Wolfe, Ballard, Harrison, LeGuin, Zelazny.

>>14266249
I liked all of the even books. Give it a try.

>>14266667
Do you even know that story is a tragedy?

Hey I got an idea for a book to write that would be PERFECT for this thread. What if there was a book that was BOTH sci-fi AND fantasy?!?! Ya know, like maybe a magical world with futuristic technology, or a story set in OUR future, but with kings and wizards and genetically-engineering dragons! Just throwing ideas out there, yall can come up with the rest.

>>14267391
no catgirls no sale desu

>>14267391
Seconding catgirls.

>>14267194
Ice is absolute kino

>>14266754
France's prose is quite lovely.

>>14267491
Vance***, even. Forgive my phoneposting.

>>14265560
If he thought sword arms was bad wait till the interdimensional spaceships show up

>>14266667
He didnt fuck his mom on accident though, he traveled back in time for the sole purpose of failing his mom

Honestly wish I could fuck my mum lads. All this talk about mum-fuxking is making my glad No Fap is over.

>>14267551
Me too man I wish I could fuck your mum.

>>14267534
there isn't time travel in oedipus rex lol

>>14264479
84 KB JPG
Is it okay to just blatantly steal real life plots for your novels?
>the Han Dynasty was founded by a sheriff who was transporting convicts when several escaped. Knowing the punishment for this was death, he freed the rest and organized many into a rebel band, eventually going on to help overthrow the ruling Qin Dynasty and install himself as Emperor.

>>14267551
I wish I had a mom to lust after desu.

>>14264479
Is Alita any good?

>>14267594
543 KB PNG
Sure, retard.

>>14267614
Jokes on you, I made that mistake on purpose so you would reply. All according to kekaiku

>>14267606
Yes

>>14267551
Same.
>>14267592
i'm pretty sure he's talking about Time Enough for Love
>>14267599
yes, just don't read mars chronicles

>>14260326
Alright. Finished God Empoeror of Dune. I only have one question: Did Nayla really have an orgasm watching Duncan climb? What was this character? Frank Herbert spend a lot of time focusing on her. I thought she was going to someone more involved. Or have some kind of last minute revelation. But no. She was just a big dumb lunk head who did what she was told, and then got brutally murdered by Duncan for no good reason. This made no fucking sense, and her final scene was the most needlessly violent thing I've read of Dune. Did I miss something here? Why was watching Duncan climb a sexual experience for her? Did Frank go senile midway through this book?

ok, actually I have two questions. Is Chapterhouse: Dune a conclusion to this story? It's the final Frank Herbert book. Does it conclude here? Please no spoilers. And please, I realize there are like 10 more books. I'm just asking if this particular story comes to an end. Not if the entire series continues.

>>14267534
It wasn't his mom, it was his grandmother.

>>14268070
>Nayla
I don't remember anything about her. Maybe it was just a throwaway character Herbert wrote with one hand.

>Is Chapterhouse: Dune a conclusion to this story?
No. There was supposed to be a 7th Dune book, Herbert died before he could write it. Heretics and Chapterhouse give you only a vague idea of how the whole thing was going to end.

>>14267973
Newer modern authors are afraid to commit to the mom fucking.
The most they might do is brother-sister.
Bakker did mom son and look where it got him.

The mom stuff only makes sense if she had you when she was really young or something. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to be with her that long before she becomes an old woman and loses all her appeal.

>>14268329
>she becomes an old woman and loses all her appeal
>implying momfags wouldn't also fuck grannies

>>14268287
Goddammit. Is the story completed in one of the other books? The ones written by his son? I wish I had known before jumping in. I hate that ASoIaF isn't finished. Now I have another unfinished series in my head? That sucks.

Nayla kept being described as square faced and incredibly big and muscular. She's super devoted to Lord Leto. And she follows Sinoa's command unquestioningly, because Leto told her to. At one point, when she's greeting the new Duncan, her face is hidden. And Duncan supposes that there is a reason she disguises her face. Even Leto has a thought about how her face is different from all the other fish speakers. So between the constant commentating on her face, and that one time she concealed it, I figured there was something unique about her that someone wasn't supposed to know.

Leto has a conversation with Nayla that annoys him, due to her unwavering devotion.
Duncan comments a number of times how close Nayla and Sinoa are. Like sisters, but not sisters. He thinks it's odd how Nayla is subservient to Sinoa. He notes how she appears to be hearing commands higher than Sinoa's. Which I guess is in regards to Leto's influence over her.

Then when Duncan climbs the wall, the story turns to Nayla's PoV for a moment to describe how much she wants to have his children. Oh yeah, earlier Duncan asked if she wanted to have his children. But he was only testing how fish speakers would react to the notion. He wasn't being serious. But apparently Nayla took it seriously, because she began wondering why Sinoa can have Duncan, when she and Duncan's children would be so much better. And the whole climbing segment to Nayla is described as a sexual experience. At the very end of the chapter, Duncan drops the rope down the wall, and Nayla orgasms. Literally fucking orgasms because she's so impressed by Duncan.

>>14268288
>The most they might do is brother-sister.
it seems that brother sister incest is almost universally accepted (in fiction) but every time it's mom son, if they even dare put it in the first place, they go with "it's actually my dad's new gf lol" or some step bullshit.
>>14268329
there are some hot gilfs out there

>>14268338
Being with an old woman is something that's only worthwhile because she gave you her youth when she was attractive and thus doesn't deserve to be abandoned.

It's disturbing to see what lack of social contact does to anon's here.
Their basements must be Hell.

>>14268457
nice trans

So I don't usually read these kinds of books but I am reading Skyward by Brandon Sanderson cause my irl friend suggested it and I want to read it at least to say I did to him.

I'm only 25 pages in but I noticed that the entire tone saeems pretty childish and the characters and events stereotyped. Of course it's just the start, but it didn't leave me a good impression. Are all Brandon Sanderson books like this? Is it just the start of this one? The character was a kid so it may be on purpose, but meh. Rather than young adult, it feels more like middle school addressed literature.

>>14264514
Small Gods or The Truth

what do we read this month, anons?

>>14267357
do you even know what a literary tradition is?

>>14268701
That’s skywards Target audience

>>14268701
Did you actually believe the Sanderfag a hack meme just materialized out of thin air?

>>14268833
But my friend is an adult...

>>14268848
I don't come to this general as I usually don't read fantasy so I don't know any memes from here. And even if I did I learned to not trust 4chan about popular things because a lot of the time people here just want to be contrarian and think "popular thing bad".

>>14268870
Sanderhack is not that popular tebehe. And he's awful.

>>14264514
reaper man

>>14268347
You keep calling her Sinoa, fucking why?

>>14268803
Something steampunk maybe?
It would be a change of pace.

>space rastas
that's where Neuromancer lost me desu

>>14268904
I don't know how that happened. An extra long brain fart I guess

>>14268950
It wasn't the incestuous space Swiss banking clan?

STOP TALKING ABOUT INCEST

DISCUSSION TIME, VAMPIRE EDITION!

>How did you like the book?
>Writing kids is hard, did the author succeed?
>Writing 200 year old kids might also be hard, did the author succeed?
>The book is praised for its portrayal of early 80s Sweden, did it match your preconception (if you had one)?
>How did you like the kind of vampire present in the book? What kind do you generally prefer?
>Is the book at better love story than Twilight?

Also, reply to this post with nominations for December monthly reading! Make the nomination winter or snow related!

>>14267194
I've only read Ice and it's amazing. Now that you reminded me of her existence I might as well pick another book up.

>>14268975
This is the science fiction thread so that means it's for the discussion of incest.

>>14268975
Ok mom

>>14267041
this isn't even a meme. Shallan just casually travels half the world on bare wounded feet because the only thing she lost while stranded were her boots. Then she rubs them daily with antisepticum even though they are already healed.

>>14268979
>How did you like the book?
7/10, the ending is a bit mangled though.
>Writing kids is hard, did the author succeed?
Yet another story about bullying, feels like i've read it a thousand times, even though no examples come to mind.
>Writing 200 year old kids might also be hard, did the author succeed?
Despite being the main plot point Eli doesn't get a lot of attention so it's whatever.
>The book is praised for its portrayal of early 80s Sweden, did it match your preconception (if you had one)?
Don't know shit about sweden.
>How did you like the kind of vampire present in the book? What kind do you generally prefer?
Not a fan of virus-based vampires, WFB vampires are more my taste.
>Is the book at better love story than Twilight?
Neither read nor watched twilight and not fond of this meme.

>>14268979
Winter or snow...how about The Best and the Nightingale, by Katherine Arden.

>>14269041
*Bear, even

>>14268909
>having steamer trunks and punk boots makes this pic steampunk xdddd
Please stop avatar fagging with patreon whores.

>>14268979
have you considered retiring the monthly reading, since so few people even bother?

>>14269090
>>14268909
JUST GLUE SOME GEARS ON IT AND CALL IT STEAMPUNK
THATS THE PRETTY FASHION NOWADAYS

>>14268979
>How did you like the book?
I enjoyed it.

>Writing kids is hard, did the author succeed?
It worked out for me. I didn't hate it like I usually do books with kid protagonists. be right back, changing my piss ball.

>Writing 200 year old kids might also be hard, did the author succeed?
Yes. Kids soak up information like a sponge. It would be expected that a 200 year old kid would learn how to use what they had to survive.

>The book is praised for its portrayal of early 80s Sweden, did it match your preconception (if you had one)?
I never had one.

>How did you like the kind of vampire present in the book? What kind do you generally prefer?
It worked out. That vamp was a killer that did whatever it took to survive.

>Is the book at better love story than Twilight?
Yes. But it would not last. The new caretaker will get old and be disposed of like the old guy, also I don't know what will happen when piss ball boy hits puberty. The vamp looks like a gril, and the boy's snake will jump for "her". I don't know if the vamp will let him bugger "her" to keep him close, or if "she" would allow him to pick up a gf, thus slowly having the bond they share erode over time until piss boy doesn't care for "her" anymore.

I know it looks like it was true friendship when the vamp put itself in harms way to save our protagonist, but that was just cold calculation. The vamp also will never make piss boy a vamp, it needs somebody that can go into the sun for it. Another reason it will never last. I would love to see a sequel, but the book ended perfectly. I read the sequel that was put out years ago, but I don't think it deals with the same thing(can't remember), also it was subpar.

>Also, reply to this post with nominations for December monthly reading! Make the nomination winter or snow related!
Early Riser by Jasper Fforde

>>14268870
I read its sequel to fill in the time between Psycho Pass 3 and Rick and Morty S4 episodes having read Skyward previously. In general, a part of the ending of both books are a bit dumb, but usually one or more of the side characters are endearing and the mystery leadup is interesting but the reveal usually is not.

Skyward is basically genderflipped Ender's Game (a book I was not fond of because it was also YA) + The Jaunt (a great short story if you haven't read it. Fun fact, that story is probably based on Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination). Soft serve scifi with a talking ship (basically Nightblood from Sanderson's Cosmere books with no kill all evil), an interesting mystery but the main characters are a bit blahh and so are the reveals.

You'd probably be more up something like Revelation Space but all of Reynold's protagonists are sociopaths especially in the first book and it gets toned down later. But I guess you'll miss out on the YA "I've entered military academy" trope training arc for the nth time, which you've probably seen a million times. Ender's Game, Gundam Origin and (oh god why) Red Rising and many I will have forgotten to mention. It was even in Zahn's Thrawn rewrite for the new Star Wars canon (especially funny because in his how to write scifi book, Orson Scott Card praises Zahn) and it's the opening training arc in Ender's Game... Over and over again...

Sanderson is better off sticking to fantasy, in my opinion, even though he's given it a decent try with this series. You can really see a lot of the plot twists coming and his plots will never make you fear for the safety of the characters. Also, some authors are able to make sf felt well in technical terms but Skyward and its sequel felt a bit lacking in the hardness/believability department.

>>14269193
I skipped these recent books because I knew they were a cash grab from young readers. Plus I'm getting fed up of female protagonists.
Also, stormlight book 3 made me lose interest in Sanderson. Even the cosmerefag lost interest in Sanderson after that book, he don't even post maps or newspapers anymore.

>>14269246
Many YA protag are a blank self insert or are a super special snowflake to attract younger readers and these books are no exception. At least the morality of the characters aren't the blackest of blacks or the whitest of whites, though, but it also features the obligatory romance and the relatively linear plot.

I don't even remember anything that happened in Stormlight 3, whatever impression I had of it is long gone which isn't a good sign.

Read Berserk.

>>14268979
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/719181.An_Antarctic_Mystery
Jules Verne - An Antarctic Mystery (2006) (200 pages)

________________________________________

About Let The Right One In:
I had no idea what it would be but it's become a favourite now. I thought it was written perfectly (for example, when being introduced to Hakan and the mysterious other person, you only have dialogues).
Getting to know 15 characters was painless because their backgrounds are only introduced when needed, and I thought it was really well done in the sense that you feel realness about them.
Oskar was PERFECT. He was being bullied, but he was also weird, and also a happy kid playing outside. Hard to write kids, but this time it was perfect.

I also thought the fucked up story didn't pull any punches (it was impossible to read it in public), but I loved it. And the fact that Eli was a boy only made their love story even better desu, as in it's not physical love, it's not boy-girl love, but it's something else (and it must, because Eli is something else too).
I haven't read Dracula, was Eli's background a direct reference to it?

Finally, concerning Sweden and the 80's. I rarely feel a town as alive and realistic as it did. You could tell the author actually lived there. It was very organic, and I felt like I was living there too, with the accuracy to wheather, the diversity of the cast, and drug issues, the poverty, and the mental illness.

>about the swedish film
I watched it after reading, and it's a good film too. Not violent enough, but it was rather close to the imagery I had in mind.

>>14269185
>piss ball
oh right I had forgotten about it. It really sets the mood.

>>14269098
Weren't we like 15 to vote and read?

>>14269185
>it would not last. The new caretaker will get old and be disposed of like the old guy, also I don't know what will happen when piss ball boy hits puberty. The vamp looks like a gril, and the boy's snake will jump for "her". I don't know if the vamp will let him bugger "her" to keep him close, or if "she" would allow him to pick up a gf, thus slowly having the bond they share erode over time until piss boy doesn't care for "her" anymore.
>I know it looks like it was true friendship when the vamp put itself in harms way to save our protagonist, but that was just cold calculation. The vamp also will never make piss boy a vamp, it needs somebody that can go into the sun for it. Another reason it will never last. I would love to see a sequel, but the book ended perfectly. I read the sequel that was put out years ago, but I don't think it deals with the same thing(can't remember), also it was subpar.
I really got the opposite impression. I thought, for once, Eli got close to someone "pure". I'm thinking it lasts, since Oskar literally threw his future away for Eli. Accordingly, Eli was ready to infect Oskar and even suggested it, to make their love last forever.

>>14269090
>>14269109
You guys forgot to mention corsets.

>>14268979
>How did you like the book?
One of the best Swedish books I've read.
>The book is praised for its portrayal of early 80s Sweden, did it match your preconception (if you had one)?
I read the book in Swedish, I was young during the 90s and lived in a similar neighborhood. I found it hauntingly accurate, and the Swedish movie also managed to capture the feeling beautifully.
>Is the book at better love story than Twilight?
Don't you know that Twilight is the perfect love story? (The one between the werewolf and the infant, that is)

Just finished Zelazny's Lord of Light and greatly appreciated. It conjured up some amazing technofantasy images in my head, and I was a fan of Sam (although I do have a tendency for rebellious characters). I loved the technological nirvana part. I'm a fan of weird fiction

Choose what I read next /sffg/.:

Left Hand of Darkness
City of Saints and Madmen
Iron Council
The Dying Wearh

>>14269668
>The Dying Wearh

Had a stroke. The Dying Earth.

>>14269246
>Plus I'm getting fed up of female protagonists
Oh yeah, it's also kinda weir dhow 99% of the important/powerful characters are female. I am not a "gamers rise up" kind of person and in fact I feel usually at odds with the average 4chan poster on these issues, but damn I feel like he's really overdoing it with making everyone in any position of power female. For now the protag is female and she lives in a family with her mother and grand mother and at school the teacher is female and the general of the fleet is female and the person in charge of the pilot tests is female. It just feels so overdone to appear progressive rather than a genuine thing.

>>14269422
Faggot, why would you unspoiler somebody's spoiler?

>>14268979
>Make the nomination winter or snow related
I already recommended Early Riser last month, so Pushing Ice

I'm reading Accelerando and, while I appreciate the concepts on some level like seeing the very early development of a post-scarcity economy, I find the style and some of the implicit politics unbearable. Like the protagonist becoming an arch-mega-duper-billionaire that is untaxable and generally unaccountable to any nation in the world because he keeps a bunch of bots running literally millions of companies that keep all his assets moving within fractions of a second and apparently the entire financial sector of the planet is not equipped to say "no you can't do that, that's retarded". Like Stross realizes the law is not literally code right?

>>14269982
>>14269185
>Early Riser by Jasper Fforde

>>14269373
Only until the Lost Children arc, there's only trash from there

>>14269885
He's a newfag.

>>14269988
I think that author, in one of his blog posts, admitted that the whole book was just a nerd and or award bait. You bog standard wish fulfillment for nerds and those who feel that way.
I wish he wrote more book about the Laundry when he was on top of his game. He turned into a soccer mom.;

>>14268950
W are all the same so strange foreign culture could exist anywhere, even if they are just spear chucking savages who live in shitholes and flood our countries for easier money

Any other books that have very in-depth and cohesive worlds like Dune?

>>14269668
Any lits like Lord of Light?

>>14269246
I dont hate female prtags I just fucking HATE Shallan. How anyone can like that insufferable bitch is beyond me.

>>14270544
Vorkosigan and BotNS

Rereading Mona Lisa Overdrive after having reread Neuromancer and Count Zero.
Gibson's Sprawl trilogy and his earlier works in general are fascinatingly atmospheric.

Rereading the trilogy is like re-visiting a physical place and noticing details you haven't picked up before. The argument could be made that the books are really about the setting, and the characters are simply part of it, getting dragged along helplessly by their circumstance.

Gibson should have stopped writing long ago. His new works are trash. Nothing truer than writing from experience. His best works were created when he was younger and part of the scene.

>>14270772
Pattern Recognition wasn't all that bad.
I think that it's far more worrying that he only writes hipster sci-fi nowadays.

>>14264514
Feet of clay is my favourite

>>14269373
Read The Black Company if you read Berserk.

>>14269031
it's the most risque thing he can get away with as a good mormon. based brandon

>>14271336
That leather or satin hat elevates that photo from unfortunate to down right hilarious.

>>14270772
I thought the Blue Ant novels were pretty good as realistic updates to Neuromancer. But he'll never top the Sprawl books.

>>14271360
Have you read The Peripheral Series?
Worth a try?

>>14269373
I started it recently, just finished Lost Children. I really enjoyed the Golden Age arc, although I went into it having already heard about the eclipse. I don't buy the whole "Griffith did nothing wrong" meme but I do think that his choice was completely understandable based on his circumstances and established character. He even asks members of the Band for validation several times after doing something cruel/manipulative and literally everyone just tells him that whatever he does in pursuit of his ambition is completely fine. I think it's interesting how pretty much everything that goes wrong stems from Guts overhearing Griffiths' conversation with Charlotte about friendship.

>>14269041
It's a little to well known in the thread but since I'm in a great christmas spirit I'll allow it anyway, unless we get like 10 nominations.

>>14269098
It's not that cumbersome to keep up so as long as some people read I'll keep doing it.

>>14269185
>I read the sequel that was put out years ago, but I don't think it deals with the same thing(can't remember), also it was subpar.
I have not read it but I have read a couple of other short stories by the author and they're honestly not good. Let the Right One In seem like a one-hit wonder to me. About your thoughts regarding what happens afterwards, I agree with most of it. However I do think what Oskar and Eli have is true friendship, but it might not last as Oskar grow older. Their bond is possible just because he's a kid.

>>14269422
>about the swedish film
>Not violent enough
I disagree, the film used darkness and cuts to imply violence in a beautiful way and the scene in the bathhouse is gruesome.

>>14271370
I read the first one. I wouldn't recommend it.

>>14271500
You have the best arc ahead of you now.

How to write sex scenes by Brandon Sanderson.

>>14271370
Read the first. A writer should know when it's time to stop.
>>14271360
>>14271242
Blue Ant and Bridge were both fairly respectable.
I was referring more to The Peripheral and whatever the second one is called.

>>14270544
The Faded Sun trilogy
>>14268975
make me

>>14269098
>>14268979
do not retire the montly reading, even if few people follow it strictly it makes for great discussion and ideas on what to read next for anyone who is interested

also, i recommend you guys read They Do the Same Things Different There next, even if it's not snow related. it surprised me a lot, some of the stories are very weird and abstract

>>14268803
I nominate lord of light. I’m sure there are a couple other anons here who haven’t read it yet.

>>14271711
Go on...

>>14266133
Post more

>>14271809
>some of the stories are very weird and abstract
Anthologies are hit and miss.

>>14271902
>>14266803
>>14266133
Who do you think your samefag ass is fooling? Go to the critique fucking thread. >>>/lit/crit/

>>14271830
You didn't even look did you? Lord of Light was June 2019 monthly reading.

>>14272295
It's funny we have a bunch of newfags coming in here and telling us (the reading general) what we haven't read.

I recommend you read Dao of Magic. It's fun.

>>14264479
I can see my reflection in her tits. OwO

What sci-fi/fantasy features realistic warfare, and goes into both the micro-tactics and macro-grandstrategy of war?

>playing picross
>2anhedonic to play anything else
>make myself play hours of this shit
>slowly but surely getting better
>think of gaining insights and making progression
>think of Desolate Era
I WILL WALK THE DAO OF PICROSS

>>14272036
Are you implying that I (>>14271902)am the same guy that gave him critique or that I am the author cause I am neither, I simply like tsunderes and have yet to find good novels that have tsunderes, so I have been driven to read fucking japanese light novels, and they are much much worse than what the guy posted.

On the other hand if you could provide recommendations for "quality" works with tsunderes I appreciate it a ton.

>>14272500
Define realistic.

>>14272692
>On the other hand if you could provide recommendations for works with tsunderes I appreciate it a ton

>>14272728
Care to elaborate? I want to make sure it does contain that before sinking into a large trilogy.

just want to die lads

>>14272798

>>14268979
>How did you like the book?
It was great! I didn’t go in thinking I’d like it, since as far as I knew it was just another vampire book, but it ended up exceeding my expectations. The writing was fantastic (e.g. the people moving into the new suburbs in the 1950s), and the plot was engaging as well.

>Writing kids is hard, did the author succeed?
I think so. I couldn’t really relate to any of them (Tommy in particular), but I know people who would definitely see themselves in Oskar. I wasn’t too sure how realistic the bullying was (shit was brutal), but I personally liked how Oskar was able to start standing up to the bullies.

>Writing 200 year old kids might also be hard, did the author succeed?
Yup. I liked how Eli has the experience of 200 years while still being mentally 12 - it let Eli interact naturally with Oskar, while still possessing ancient wisdom.

>The book is praised for its portrayal of early 80s Sweden, did it match your preconception (if you had one)?
I didn’t really have a preconception, but the book did a great job of showing me what it was like.

>How did you like the kind of vampire present in the book? What kind do you generally prefer?
I generally associate the vampire qualities they used with stereotypical vampire stories, but it actually worked well. I liked the explanations for how it worked, like the brain growing in the heart (which is why you need to stab vampires in the heart).

>Is the book at better love story than Twilight?
haven’t read twilight but yes

>other thoughts
Why is the American version called Let Me In? it’s an objectively worse name

wait so Malazan book of the fallen is supposed to be good?

>>14269373
I don't read gay little nip comics

/sffg/ how do I make space magic different from both gravity magic and dark energy magic? I can't think of anything that doesn't overlap with those or light and nuclear fusion magic except for enhanced spacial awareness.

terrain alteration? Portals? Space looping? I'm having trouble thinking of shit because the spacetime magics are suppose to be weak and even portals seems like a bit too much

>>14273242
What do you mean space magic? If your talking about manipulating distances or the dimensions of objects I don't know how you could make that not insanely strong.

>magic
>ancient forgotten magic
>super duper ultra mega magic
>magic that is so fuck-you epic it breaks every rule of the magic system
whoa... so this is the power of fantasy

i'm craving some good space opera. other than dune, is leviathan wakes good?

what if I had a character who consistently introduces himself as Barack Obama as a joke, only for it to be revealed in his backstory that his name actually is Barack Obama but he started going by a fake one because people started getting pissed at him for acting like a smartass

>>14273361
magic related to space in any way. It needn't be space warping. Honestly, moving away from space-warping is better because it allows me to make dark energy magic distinct.

I think I'm going to settle for enhanced spacial awareness and opening portals, though the portals take full concentration and a lot of energy to keep open

>>14273371
Read less Sanderson.

>>14266630
>Heinlein literally wrote a book about a guy fucking his mom
sauce?
t. psychology PhD

>>14273371
>rule of the magic system

What is some good medieval fantasy with castles kings righteous successors ambitious dukes and barons and ancient evil awakening please.

>>14273663
Lyonesse

>>14273663
The First Law

Fantasy is for children

>>14273663
A Hundred Thousand Kingdoms

>>14273663
The Wizard Knight

>>14269885
the only poster to actually bother with a formatted review itt, and you idiot only care about the spoilers? stupid fuck

>>14273028
>Why is the American version called Let Me In? it’s an objectively worse name
>The American version is called Let Me In because the publishers believed that the original title was too long
It literally because publishers think Americans are retarded lel

>>14273510
Time Enough For Love. It's a brick of a book and the mom fucking part is the best part. The part where he's in a polygamous relationship with his two kids (which are also clones of himself) is also based but drags on for too long.

>>14273663
Any book about King Arthur.

I'm a sucker for school-set bildungsromans and was looking to scratch my itch with Skyward after someone mentioned it was like Ender's Game which I enjoyed.
And I know I would have loved Skyward if I was 12 years old. The most cardboard cutout characters I've ever seen, dialogue that would be at home in a picture book for toddlers learning to read, the absolute bottom of the barrel tier "humour" if you can call it that (he simply isn't a funny person and it shows hard). The prose was alright. Sanderson's improved on that front.
Imagine my fucking face when it's rated 4.5 on goodreads what the actual fuck.

>>14274251
Get the fuck back to /outerlit/ you fucking troglodyte.

>>14274214
The Winter King by Cornwell.

>>14274206
>It's a brick of a book and the mom fucking part is the best part.
This is absolutely false, settling the frontier with a talking mule is the beset part.

I love Harry Dresden so much bros...

>>14274422
wrong thread.

>>14274448
right thread bro.

urbran fantasy doesn't get mentioned enough here.

Anybody got mil sci-fi recs? So far I've read the Old Man's War series, Starship Troopers, Forever War, Frontlines, Star Force series, Expeditionary Force series (this one's really shit, fuck everybody who put it on to me).

>>14274251
Ender's Game is a literal cardboard tier self insert YA garbage starring the super smart protagonist with cringe tier epik vidya game skills.

>>14264498
this

>>14274526
Undying Mercenaries
Theirs Not to Reason Why
A Galaxy Unknown (utter trash but hey it's free on KU)

>>14266133
>scooched
based

>>14274403
I enjoyed the idea, but like the rest of the book it was simply too drawn out.

>>14274503
Any mention of Jim Butcher is too much.

>>14273138
/lit/ refuses to a knowledge this fact, but it is a 10/10 series.

>>14274628
Codex Alera was kino tho

>>14274729
that was before he went full retard. might as well be written by a completely different person.

>>14274742
After Tavi got his powers it wasn't the same.

>>14266133
Why do you use proprietory software?

>>14273727
Then we are men-children.
I guess rape, incest and torture is for kids too. Seeing as the fantasy books we read have that and more.

>>14273891
>formatted review
Where do you think you are? Goodreads?

>>14275054
Ah so we should let read 8 years old "the aspect emperor".

>>14274191
>It literally because publishers think Americans are retarded
But they are. Years of conditioning and low iq breeding has led to the perfect sheep animal. Americans consume even when they don't want something. If Americans wise up and live within their means and save money, the economy would fall.
It's why they soak up media (audio and visual) but don't read. Remember Americans feel that reading is for pussies.

>>14274535
You mixing it up with ready player one.

>>14274503

>>14274953
>>>/g/nu

>>14275062
You dyslexic bro?

>>14275099
You read your SICP today?

>>14275101
No just tired and trying to meme.

>>14272500
KJ Parker's books

>>14275089
Who reads this trash?

>Look up book read order
>All of the top results are in-world chronology
Fucking WHY?! When has it EVER been better to read a story outside of release order? I'm just trying to figure out which side stories and lore books to skip.

>>14271566
I'll give a nomination for The Bear and the Nightingale too, as it's in my basket atm

>>14275364
Its always better to read in release order, fuck everything else.

>>14275382
I really have to wonder what fucking DOPE takes the advice of these retarded websites, and reads books in chronological order. Some fuck heads must be keeping these pages at the top of google's search. Who are these people?!

>>14275395
Its the same people that go " hey reddit should I read X, I normally dont read X and I need you to convince me".They want everything fucking spoonfed to them and fantasy blogs (like the Tor shit) want the clicks off of these retards. If you cant decide from either a simple pitch/word of mouth if you want to read a book then go fuck yourself basically .

>>14268979
>Make the nomination winter or snow related!
Ice, by Anna Kavan

>>14275429
>Some people are just that way anon
>It's a conservative temperament
>They're obviously curious
>But also cautious
>Give them you're honest opinion
>Then "convince" them of why they should read X
>Or ignore post, it's no big deal

>>14273663
I started reading powder mage and I like it.

>>14273242
Image projection in the quantum field.
Remember, information is offset in space. You sent someone a message, I might arrive in years. Mages are capable of projecting images in real time, kinda like holograms, and since it's happening in the quantum field it's all instant. Transmission of messages, communication, planning, achieving information is all done in real time by mages which makes them practically invaluable. 1 mage can be literally more important as the emperor since a whole galactic empire might rely on the mage sending messages. And a mage can fuck the queen every day while making the king watch since he can just send the opposing empire a statement of war and make it all go to shit. 1 single mage can literally control the entire universe.

>>14269668
>>14269706

You shall read Dying Wearh.

I'm writing something loosely inspired by Lord of the Rings but the hobbits are violent stupid destructive gnolls and the Ring is a sentient Adornment (that casually transforms to whatever, like a brooch, or a feather for the hat, sometimes to the user's annoyance) that gives the user some undefined prowess or magical affinity. It was found by gnolls several years back by not-Bilbo gnoll leader of his tribe, the back story isn't all that important. Not-Frodo is your usual stupid violent gnoll but the Adornment gave him juuuuust enough intelligence to be capable of fulfilling its mission: bring the Adornment to the fountain in the center of not-Mount Doom. By the way, the Adornment was created by the fairies.
At the end of the story not-Frodo becomes the Dark Lord.

It's a fun endeavor to be writing something else for a change. Been working on my own novel for years now.

im in the mood for grim dark like 2nd Apocalype and blindsight, any suggestions (no 40k shit)

>>14275504
Yea but I hate those fucks.

>>14275248
He's more about the engineering rather than the military tactics & combat (unless it's sword fighting)

>>14275542
You're describing starship mage

>>14275603
>loosely inspired by Lord of the Rings
Already lost interest. Lotr is shit.

Looks like the monthly reading discussion isn't going to even last 24 hours if it's only this thread.
Is that sufficient for everyone who wanted to comment? Maybe. I don't know.

Current nominations, pending possible culling.
The Bear and the Nightingale - Katherine Arden (2017) , Historical Fantasy, 1st book of a trilogy.

Early Riser - Jasper Fforde (2018), was nominated last month, alternate history satire, standalone.

An Antarctic Mystery - Jules Verne (1897), technically 44th of 54th in a series. Not sff.

Pushing Ice - Alastair Reynolds (2005), Science Fiction. Standalone.

They Do the Same Things Different There - Robert Shearman (2014), Collection of author's stories. Not an anthology. Multiple genres.

Ice - Anna Kavan (1967), science fiction.

>have to change my book because it borrows way too much from homestuck
>fixing up a character who's way too similar to Dave Strider
>switch his deal from time to electricity for the sake of differentiation
>looking for names that fit
>"Barack: arabic for lightning"

d-do i...?

>>14275542
>little did he know, he chuckled to himself, as he reminisced back across those many decades where he made that fated post on a long defunct website, now that was a quaint word, that the paltry work he had typed, another activity fallen into obscurity, would become the work he was solely known for.

>>14276283
Seems you've already decided to do so based on this post.
>>14273420

>>14276303
Oops, I clicked on the wrong post.
>>14275603

>>14274548
>it's free
Basically everything is free if you want it to be, so this is irrelevant and a very sad rationalization.

I need a random biased response that will decide whether I read something or not and I will be very angry or grateful following 100% believing you.

>>14276544
You will read this next :3

>>14276455
Not understanding the argument "it's something I'd never read if I had to pay for it" is even more sad.

>>14276591
No, that's just a completely idiotic rationalization to justify to yourself why you read the absolute worst garbage.

>>14276591
But you don't have to pay for any books, or at least 95% of them.

>don't have KU
>still read a lot of trash because it is free
help

also
>paying for books

>>14276615
> justify to yourself why you read the absolute worst garbage
you must be new to this general

>>14276615
I don't need any justification to enjoy myself.

>>14276851
Then why provide arguments for doing so?

new bread when

>>14276861
First time I'm posting in this argument.

>>14276938
Then why reply as if you were?

>>14276953
What don't you get a private room fruitbowl

>>14276916
Either when someone else makes it or when I get around to doing so. So, probably within an hour or two depending on how quickly the thread moves thread the pages.

>>14268979
I nominate the ice schooner by moorcock

>>14274206
He also wrote a sequel, written from the pov of the mom and she marries her son in the end lol
>>14276555
based catfag

Grill I'm interested in recommended me this. Thought it was going to be dangerously furry, but I'm 50 pages in, and so far it's decent. The beekeeper seems based.

>>14277032
Is that some kiddie book?
>Pushkin Children's

>>14277130
I mean, kinda, but the prose is fine for a translation from Japanese.

From now on I'm only going to link the monthly book in the OP. For all the previous monthly books, look at the monthly reading mega in the pastelink.

NEW THREAD
>>14277345
NEW THREAD

>>14264479
Best Robotech book?