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Can anyone please give me a reason to philosophize outside of the platonic world. I genuinely believe in the quote by Whitehead that Plato is the thought under which everything else is just a collection of footnotes. I think is divided line and the allegory of the Sun are airtight, both conceptually and literally. What do you guys think?

>> No.14260823

>>14260818
Disgusting photo.

>> No.14260827

>>14260823
Imagine not being down for some ass and grass

>> No.14260841

>>14260818
Can you please reiterate your question? I’m guessing you wrote it quick. You’re asking why to philosophize outside the platonic ideal? I’m having a hard time understanding. There’s a lot of implications

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>>14260827

>> No.14260846

>>14260843
cringe, you need to tap more ass

>> No.14260849

>>14260846
No, thanks though.

>> No.14260852

>>14260841

I like the platonic system and I'm wondering why anything else is worth reading / philosophizing with. Like Hegel for instance is at the end of the day establishing opinion about whichever syntheses of real experience work best within our network of experiences. This seems like idk basically exactly what Plato has already done except there is no opinion, which is where I don't like Hegel too.

Basically who do you like besides Plato, and have you gone through this phase before (Plato is the end)?

Yeah, it was written quickly.

Please pardon the girl, I just wanted this thread to get replies

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>> No.14260862

>>14260859
Based.

>> No.14260873

>>14260818
Why would Whitehead hold Plato in such esteem?
Forms are eternally btfo, and isn’t he more on about this process stuff?

>>14260823
Too graffiti for you? Hair too tangled?
I don’t care for the Pink logo, but it’s rather pretty

>> No.14260880

>>14260818
What Whitehead meant by that quote is that all of philosophy is a continuous BTFOing of Plato. If you actually knew the context of that quote in the speculative system that he built you would know this. He just put it lightly.

>> No.14260892

>>14260873
Weed, immodes dress, dirty buttcrack, uneven tan, dirty room, letting someone write on her butt, gross underwear riding up her crack, actually posing for a picture like this, manly shoulders, most likely a whore.

>> No.14260908

>>14260880

>What Whitehead meant by that quote is that all of philosophy is a continuous BTFOing of Plato. If you actually knew the context of that quote in the speculative system that he built you would know this.

What kind of speculative system? I thought that Socrates was the ultimate speculator?

>> No.14260918

>>14260892
>relaxant, too attractive, normal human derrière, tanning, prole house, playfulness and signs of intimate friends, thong style clothing, strong frame and confidant.
Übermensch woman, m’lad.

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>>14260818
>I genuinely believe in the quote by Whitehead that Plato is the thought under which everything else is just a collection of footnotes.

I like the way Emerson expresses this sentiment.

>> No.14260941

>>14260918
Why do you uphold drug-addicted, degenerate whores as the epitome of the female sex? Hmmm... wait, now that I think of it, you might be right. This is liberated woman. This is what they are, not what they should be, but what they in fact are.

>> No.14260953

>>14260941
Just a photo anon

>> No.14260963

>>14260941
What's not to love about fucking while high?

>> No.14260964

>>14260953
Pick a better one next time.

>> No.14260967

>>14260953
A photo which displays what could have been an honest wife forever sullied into a common streetwalker.

I understand other anon's pain.

>> No.14260970

>>14260823
>>14260859
Remember to report all jezebel posting niggers as NSFW or off-topic, whichever you feel will help get the thread deleted.

>> No.14260974

>>14260963
Enjoy ED: https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)33490-1/fulltext

>> No.14260975

>>14260967
have sex

>> No.14260977

>>14260975
have sex

>> No.14260978

>>14260953
Fuck off that anon is based and correct.

>> No.14260984

>>14260941
Yeah, it’s just one photo. She’s sexy and obviously knows it. Sure she smokes weed and I’m not particularly into it, but I don’t mind if people dabble in it. I’d invite her to sit on my lap and discuss things. She could be a real jerk or the loveliest woman. What’s wrong with confidence, allure?
Now all she needs is brains and courage...
>degenerate
I see nothing particularly degenerate. You are projecting

>> No.14260988

>>14260873
>Forms are eternally btfo
a triangle is always a triangle
1+1 is always 2

>> No.14260994

>>14260984
>I see nothing particularly degenerate.
Well, you're a tranny, so I don't exactly trust your judgement as to what is and what isn't degenerate.

>> No.14260996

>>14260918
Charles Hard-On?

>> No.14260997

>>14260984
>I see nothing particularly degenerate. You are projecting
You are a special type of retard Butters. You're going out of your way to uphold a typical college sorority girl that looks disgusting and wouldn't give you the time of day.

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>> No.14261006
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>>14260908
All in here

>> No.14261007

>>14260918

B-fly, I don't just irrationally hate on you like most others seem to do on here, but can you really find positives in a picture like that? I'm not arguing from the other anons point of view about decency or any of that traditionalist shit, only that I don't find her seemingly hedonistic nature a profound or constructive one; more like a pathological explosion of attention for its own sake that has been catalysed by a culture of ego-projection and fakery. All I see here is pure objectivication, implemented on her by others and herself simultaneously. She is a creature of tragic satisfaction, a consumer of a prescribed sexuality rather than a creator of her own unique sexual identity. I suspect you were trying to play the devil's advocate here, but as someone with anarchic leanings (I gather, from your post history?) I'm just curious how you can see this as anything other than a disempowerment.

>> No.14261015

>>14261004

I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU, SIR, TO HYPOTHESISE THE FRAGRANCE

>> No.14261020

>>14260975
Practice celibacy.

>> No.14261023

>>14260988
The concepts of forms, as it’s always described to me, is caput.

>>14260994
I AM NOT TRANS, YOU COCK-GOBBLER

>>14260996
?

>>14260997
Probably because she’s straight. Still, what of it?

>> No.14261026

>>14261015
Probably smells ashy skin, taco bell, and cheap liquor.

>> No.14261032

>>14261023
>I AM NOT TRANS, YOU COCK-GOBBLER
Oh? All caps? You mad??

>> No.14261037

>>14261015
only under the conditions of forced copulated would I enjoy to partake in a wiff
my fellow ruffians have bequeathed unto me that under duress a certain sweetness she will emit that is otherwise not available
a rarity indeed, in timid times such as these

>> No.14261038

>>14261007
>B-fly, I don't just irrationally hate on you like most others seem to do on here, but can you really find positives in a picture like that
Nobody irrationally hates her, it's purely rational to be disgusted with a pseudo-intellectual 30 year old socialist/libertarian/anarchist (mainly hedonistic) lesbian woman that thinks a degenerate college girl transcends womanhood and always post muh moralism and muh hedonism.

>> No.14261042

>>14261023
You're comments just remind me of someone I know... or used to I guess

>> No.14261043

>>14261038
>woman
See, that's where you're wrong, anon.

>> No.14261046

>>14261023
>Probably because she’s straight. Still, what of it?
You're thinking with your vag and not your brain. She's a degenerate and not worth defending. She's a symbol of the pitfalls of a misunderstanding of feminism that terrorizes our society. That weed pouch also really fucking irritates me for some reason.

>> No.14261050

>>14261038
lmao butterfly is like 40 or older dude, "she" was late twenties at oldest when /lit/ started up and "she's" been here since then

protip: that's why "she" hates the board and is such a worthless poster, because back in the day, it used to be exclusively a hangout for pre-discord discord trannies (at that time they used tinychat) who barely knew what 4chan was but somehow ended up on the site. "she" has been here ever since and hates all the newfags for not being tinychat fags like her old tripfag namefag fag friends.

>> No.14261051

>>14261004
Park it here, girl.

>>14261007
True, I know nothing about her, but what’s plain to see is she’s young and confident. A “Stacy” it seems. Potentially rather desirable

>>14261032
I get this shit from you people all the time. Sick of it

>> No.14261053

>>14261046
She's probably good at school, had friends, socializes a lot and has great sex.

>> No.14261058

>W-WHAT A DEGENERATE WHORE
friday night the incels are fucking seething at what is an impossibility for them: a lover under the 200lb mark

>> No.14261059

>>14261051
>I get this shit from you people all the time. Sick of it
Mad, mad, mad. Shut up, tranny.

>> No.14261062

>>14261053
What'd you forget your tripcode, butters? Stop samefagging

>> No.14261064

>>14261053
>She's probably good at school
>addicted to weed
buddy....

>> No.14261066

>>14261059
They're an nb ftm if anything

>> No.14261068

>>14261038
>hedonistic
Epicurean. There’s a difference
>transcends
That’s a little overboard
>>14261042
Ah.
>>14261046
It’s just a picture. Neither of us knows her.
We must take it at face value, like a marble statue. It’s pretty.

>> No.14261075

>>14260818
What's a good book on Platonism?
>inb4 read Plato
Seems like a lot of work.

>> No.14261081

>>14261062
Not me. I already inferred that.

>> No.14261089

>>14261068
>We must take it at face value, like a marble statue. It’s pretty.
No it’s disgusting. She’s objectively unattractive and irritating.

>> No.14261095

>>14261023
>says "she" is not a trap
>never posts proof
yikes...

>> No.14261096

>>14261089
>She’s objectively unattractive and irritating.
true, obviously just a tiny latinx goblina, in 10 years she'll looks like any other fat and ugly guadalupe housemaid

>> No.14261098

>>14261089
>m-muh bible says this is bad so it's objectively unattractive
cringe

>> No.14261102

>>14261089
You must progress to non-attachment. Hating on her is only marginally better than praising her as the lowly lust led animals do.

You are still allowing her to draw energy from you. You must learn to be unaffected by such displays of the oldest profession.

>> No.14261103

>>14261095
It should be clear they're an afab from how they express ideas

>> No.14261113

Photos like this remind me of the how vulgar life is

>> No.14261118

>>14261098
>>m-muh bible says this is bad so it's objectively unattractive
>cringe
You're beyond retarded.
>>14261096
Yes, she's just ugly lol.
>>14261102
Yes.

>> No.14261130

>>14261102
Why not, like looking at a fine piece of art, draw positive emotions from her beauty. Even if the reality is a shallow punk and sluggard, this picture has stirred and will stir inspirations untold. It’s just an image. Yet it effects those who gaze on it.
Why outrage and needles spite? Christians are such degeneracy

>> No.14261131

>>14260873
She's disgusting and you can tell that her mentality from this photo is fucking disgraceful. We're not all incels here.

>> No.14261138

To all of those in favor of the photo, if you had daughter would you mind if she took that same photo?

>> No.14261141

>>14261130
>this picture has stirred and will stir inspirations untold

Imagine actually typing this.

This picture has inspired nothing but an ordinary conversation that happens dozens of times daily across 4chan and will be forgotten.

>> No.14261151

>>14261131
I question your criteria for what qualifies as disgraceful. Sexually active, pot smoker? I see nothing wrong from the picture. How likely she is of being a terrible person doesn’t bother me. It’s just a picture

>>14261141
Too much for you, I know, I’m being silly in the face of your silliness.

>> No.14261156

>>14261141
>thinking what happens on 4chan isn't multithreaded poetry reflecting the state of society

>> No.14261160

>>14261151
You could pull a lot from her psychology buy connecting the dots. I'm not gonna fucking spoon feed. You like her then like her, to me she's an attention whore trying to "make a point.".

>> No.14261161

>>14261138
christ no, I would instantly cut her off from my will and give it all to my conservative mixed race ivy league preppy clothes wearing jewel son

>> No.14261163

>>14261141
>Imagine actually typing this.
kek

>> No.14261166

>>14261138
I wouldn’t mind. Since this is a college age girl.

>> No.14261169

imagine sliding your dick into her sweaty asshole

>> No.14261175

>>14261166
what about her doing pornography?

>> No.14261180

Why would a girl let herself be degraded like this? It's all so vulgar

>> No.14261181

>>14261160
...
Because psychologists typically diagnose patients based on lousy pictures
Sherlock Holmes you are not.

>>14261169
Could you refrain from sticking your dick in our conversation, christ boy?

>> No.14261184

>>14261181
I'm not diagnosing anyone, I could just tell what her personality is like.

>> No.14261185

>>14261166
What if she was 15 or 14?

>> No.14261189

>>14261185
Legal in Germany

>> No.14261204

>>14261180
I don’t think it’s particularly vulgar. It’s beach attire for crying out loud. You against legalized pot?

>>14261175
Nude modeling is one thing, sex on video another. I would advise more strongly against the latter. But accept it if she did.

>>14261185
She’d still be under my care and too young for a lot of that behavior. Certainly don’t want photos of it floating around

>> No.14261206

>>14261204
>beach attire
It's a thong.

Stop defending her white knight.

>> No.14261208

>>14261189
Legal for 14 & 15 y/o to smoke pot in their underwear. Good to know.

>> No.14261211

>>14261208
>beach attire
>underwear
Make up your fucking mind, you already gave yourself away.

Stupid fuck. I'm leaving.

>> No.14261220

>>14260963
Weed makes me debilitatingly self-conscious. I'll smoke it after, with my post-coitus cigarette.

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>>14261211
You don’t know what a thong is?

>> No.14261223

>>14261204
She's obviously let some sorority dude write his frat name on her ass and put a jar of weed in there. You think she did that to herself? And then she even let him take a photo. I wonder how many dudes were involved in this? It's just obscene

>> No.14261227

>>14261222
I bet you a hundred bucks you made this thread and then added your tripfag.

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>>14261222
You call that a thong?

>> No.14261234

>>14261222
Well that's a nice ass, butters.

>> No.14261238

>>14261227
Naw.

>>14261228
Bunny’s black one is.

>> No.14261241

>>14260818
Trash thread op

>> No.14261244

>>14261238
post more asses, you have good taste

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>>14261244
Oh you look ‘em up. Swimsuit Succubus and Bunny Ayumi. Bunny is the naughty one. Swimsuit is only lewd. Hides at least about two inches of herself

>> No.14261258

>>14261256
Coomers

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>>14261222
actually disgusting

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>>14261264
O-okay. Sorry

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>>14260818
>images Europeans will never experience

>> No.14261290

>>14261284
thank god

>> No.14261298

>>14260846
cumbrain

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>>14260818

>> No.14261310

>>14261301
>>14261298
Same person

>> No.14261316

>>14260818
*toot* teehee :3

>> No.14261325

>>14260818
Butt.

>> No.14261372

>>14260852
You have to understand why white had said that. You have to understand that Play-Doh is the person who suggested that as opposed to Mythos, there was a better way to pass on truths that were discovered by the culture onto the next generation, like an inheritance, and this was the Logos. Aristotle can be seen as a very ardent and zealot believer in this approach, as opposed to Plato who still respected mythos and, in fact, incorporated it in his own work. What people like Russell and other fourth rate “philosophical scholars“ Exaggerate is this interpretation of “the forms” and how it reflects Plato’s “ideology”. Keep in mind none of these “scholars” knew any ancient Greek. To those who studied, exaggerate is this interpretation of “the forms“ and how it reflects Plato’s “ideology“. Keep in mind none of these “scholars“ knew any ancient Greek. To those who knew Ancient Greek and studied Plato’s dialogues, even in the most initiatory way, Will tell you that Plato is so much more sophisticated than anyone could imagine. As far as the subject of this conversation has to go, I would just suggest that the delivery and the means of deliverance of truth(s) has its own history. To say that Plato’s truth is the same as Hegel’s truth as opposed to truth of Analytics, is still working under the idea of a kind of explicationism. The Presocratics of Greeks, the poets of Rome, and the prophets of the Middle East, also contribute to truth, albeit by a different means of deliverance. Each means influenced by the culture surrounding them. Plato is not the end, and the story of him as the beginning is itself a story

>> No.14261560

>>14261256
Nicely looking trans*women.

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>>14261560