/lit/ - Literature

>>14242529

>tfw to intelligent to be happy

It really is a fucking curse.

>>14242529
>Why are more intelligent people more likely to be lonely
It should be self-explanatory if you were.

>>14242529
>lonely
they don't have too much in common intelectually with your average Joe, not too much to converse about
>suicidal and depressed
probably to smart to believe in organized religions but too stupid to find consolation and sense of purpose in universe in great science
> have sex later in life
smart people will naturally gravitate towards people from the same intellectual strata which is already quite limited because of how normal distribution works, also that seems to play a bigger role when it comes to men than women

>>14242529
Most suicidal people are 17 years old girls with no friends. They aint the ones splittin no atoms.

>>14242529
(I've posted this five times today, but here we go again)

Friendly reminder that Taleb BTFO IQ. IQ is pseudoscientific nonsense that only tells you how well you perform on IQ tests.
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

>>14242529
This just seems like a cope for unexceptional people to feel validated by their damage. There's literally no difference between "whoa is me, I'm too smart to be happy" and "I'm smart I just choose not to try" aka redditors aka what y'all are

If you focused on the things you can do instead of the things that you are you'd be much happier

>>14242604
what if you actually have high IQ and self-awareness?

>>14242575
Nobody cares about this raghead.

>>14242575
when a pseud can BTFO your system you know it's in rough shape

>>14242604
It can be a cope for those people and it can still also be true that very high IQ people have a hard time in society in various ways. Im not very high iq so i have no horse in this race. It's not implausible to me that it would be alienating to be that smart

Sounds like a cope. You might not be as intelligent as you think you you can't learn social skills.

>why do outliers on a test to see how normie you are tend to be less normie?
It's a mathematical mystery, anon.

>>14242757
social skills have nothing to do with intelligence, especially if you are autistic

>>14242529
>NOOOOO why does it suck so badly to have a high IQ and be born to a relatively well-off family and have to go to college! NOOOOOO! TFW to intelligent to change my diaper after I shit myself!

>>14242806
NPC spotted

>>14242810
>TFW to intelligent to formulate an argument! You wouldn't understand it even if I were able to do so!!
>t. 160 IQ

>>14242806
Intelligence results in the recognition of the cube-farm you see as 'good and easy life'. However they either see the solutions as impossible or themselves lacking in competence and energy to shape a different world.

>>14242529
Same is true for losers.

>>14242864
>NOOOOO TFW TO INTELLIGENT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH MY LIFE? HOW DO THESE USELESS 90 IQ SUBHUMANS CONSTANTLY OUTPERFORM ME? IT MUST BE BECAUSE INTELLIGENCE IS ACTUALLY BAD, IT CAN'T BE DUE TO MY OWN PERSONAL FLAWS!

>>14242648
>NOOOOOOO TFW TO INTELLIGENT TO LISTEN TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S ARGUMENT. TFW to inteligent to do anything other than namecall and boast about my IQ. TFW to inteligent to do anything inteligent

>>14242604
this seems pretty spot on
additionally, is there even actual evidence (polls, studies, anything) about the correlation between higher IQ and suicide/depression?
seems like most of it is anecdotal stories of people who claim "im smart, i just don try mang"

>>14242631
then you realize your woes are the result of your own failures, flaws, and inaction
its not cause you have IQ
its cause youre the equivalent of the human plastic bag

>tfw to inteligent to change my clothes or take a shower after shitting myself
whats the point broes? theres no pooint in hygiens because we are going to die anyways. I have an IQ of 160, you cant refute me

>>14242658
It's not really. I haven't tested my Iq yet since it seems idiotic, but I doubt mine is above 150 like you pseuds, so I'm not particularly intelligent. I still have interests most would consider intelligence in some way and for sure different than the norm, but I do just fine in social life. I don't cringe at their childish concerns for starter, it's cute indeed, not unlike listening to children's endless stories about their days. But looking for a partner is torturous, it's like shopping for a sex robot, I can almost always predict their answer before asking, hell, it's worse than those AI assistants like siri, alexa really. Goddamn I don't want and can't love a fucking robot, if I want sex then there are plenty of other options so I might just remain single the rest of my life. Yeah it's a depressing thought in the end

>>14242565
The stats don't really back that up, pal.

ARRRRGH ARRRGH IM HAVING INTENSE PAIN IN MY TUMMY, THERE"S BLOOD SHOOTING OUT OF MY RECTUM
>TFW TO INTELIGENT TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL

>>14242806
>>14242822
>>14242907
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>>14242963
>TFW to intelligent to make a response so I use meme images

ARGGGHH MY ANUS IS IN SO MUCH PAIN. I NEED TO BE EXAMINED. BUT...BUT!! ONLY BY SOMEONE WITH AN IQ OF 160+. AND HE HAS TO BE 6'2 AND BLOND WITH BLUE EYES AND HAVE WELL DEFINED MUSCLES. TFW TO INTELIGENT TO FIND A HIGH IQ ANUS ANALYST

>>14242575
> IQ is pseudoscientific nonsense that only tells you how well you perform on IQ tests.
Rather than debate semantics we can just define IQ as "that which is measured by IQ tests." And lo and behold, high IQ is correlated with numerous measures to an astonishing degree, from income to education to other successes in life, and it predicts this even when controlling for socieconomic status, upbringing, etc.
It's like you didn't read The Bell Curve.

>>14242990
Do you think there's a correlation between having a High IQ and being addicted to tranny porn?
>TFW to intelligent to masturbate to female(vagina) porn

I'm very unhappy but also very stupid. Are smart people really so stupid that they don't understand stupid people are capable of being unhappy?

The anons posting all caps answers are unironically right, it's only midwits who suffer from severe Dunning-Kruger effect that think that they are miserable because of their high IQs. In reality, they are smart enough to realize how shitty the world and their lives are but too stupid to figure out how to fix them.

>>14243002
You're lying to yourself.
>tfw to intelligent to explain my stance

>>14243007
>tfw my parents and my teachers were lying to me my whole life when they called me smart
How do I accept the truth, broes?

>>14242529
IQ alone is useless, EQ is more important and people with high EQ generally have high IQ as well.

>>14243020
>EQ
I can tell you're a twink. Want to come over to my place, we can talk philosophy ;)

> OH NO me no hab secks, dat mean me SMART

>>14242956
You got some of that suicidal stats?

>tfw to inteligent to have sex

>>14243007
>Dunning-Kruger effect
Telltale sign of a pseud
>too stupid to figure out how to fix them
Because almost nothing can be done, you barely have control over your problems

>>14243020
EQ is bullshit with no basis

>tfw 2 inteligent fore happiness

>>14242958
>>14242984
>>14243007
>>14243019
>>14243050
>>14243116

>>14242557
>Religion vs (great) Science

wut

What is the problem of induction?
What is scientism?
What do the terms reality, fact, object, concept represent, etc etc ad nauseam.

>>14242529
Because high IQ is a curse, not a boon. Ignorance is bliss.

>>14242557
>smart people will naturally gravitate towards people from the same intellectual strata which is already quite limited because of how normal distribution works, also that seems to play a bigger role when it comes to men than women
It has more to do with focusing on your career instead of relationships I believe. At least, this is the reason that female education crashes birth rates.

>>14243147
>you barely have control over your problems
Well yeah, you can increase your IQ. I guess the only think you can do is rage on some ching chong imageboard like this dumbass >>14243167

u dont need to b intelligent to b intelligent

>>14243238
Sorry, meant to say you CAN'T increase your IQ

>>14242557
> probably to smart to believe in organized religions
midwit detected

>>14243263
takes one to know one

>>14242529
>tfw watching people dumber than me get paid more than me, because i haven't served my social prison term of 20 years as a cubicle slave for something i can learn and master in 2 weeks

>>14242604
>whoa is me
Based

>>14242604
>whoa is me

>>14242806
I really hate college tho

>>14242529
>Why are more intelligent people more likely to be lonely, suicidal and depressed? They seem to have sex later in life and fewer children.

Because they're ugly.
High IQ people don't realize they evolved as an unbalanced character class. Think your way out of it, brainiacs

Theyre smart enough to questions religion but no smart enough to see that it's always been right

>>14242529
They do great in school from the very beginning and get praised for how smart they are, so they make 'being smart' their highest priority and start neglecting any other aspect of their lives. They eventually realize there was much more to life than being smart but by that time they're so far behind in everything else that they'd rather remain stucked where they are and be miserable than admitting they made a mistake and start fixing their lives.

I'm obviously talking out of my ass here. I don't think intelligent people are more likely to be lonely/depressed/suicidal. This was just what happened to me because I'm stupid.

>>14242604
>whoa is me

>>14243007
>too stupid to figure out how to fix them
more like I always find death an easier alternative and it keeps me from wanting to put any effort in anything. Same difference. Like so >>14242864

>>14243705
Sounds all too familiar to me, except that I'm "trying" to fix my life. I feel like I could be trying harder but who knows.

>>14243007
is mentioning the dunning-kruger effect the ultimate dunning-kruger effect?

>>14242604
>If you focused on the things you can do instead of the things that you are you'd be much happier
Added to my list of inspirational/motivational quotes. Let me know if you want me to name you.

>>14242996
The tranny thing is kind of interesting because they tend to be split between legit retards and high IQ autists.

>>14242557
>sense of purpose in universe in great science
This is brainlet-tier. There's more in life than just science and religion. Science is nothing more than a means to an end.

>>14243636
>>14243665
>>14243731
Don't fucking bully him you niggers.

>>14243731
Quite the high IQ post otherwise. Hahahaha

schizophrenia is just what happens when a low iq individual gets information overload. their tiny pea-sized brains cant handle it

>>14243782
Another brainlet ganging up on the actual intelligent posters. Must the crowd constantly feel threatened by us? Leave this thread

>>14242529
> have sex later in life
good
> less children
bad, but probably because leftists are being averaged with intelligent men of discriminating taste

>>14243786
Like Terry Davis? No, you are the idiot

>>14243799
Have you seen the movie Pi?

I think its because kids with no friends will read instead of trying be social, Its a vicious cycle

>>14243786
Schizophrenia is believed to be caused by an inability of the brain to not process useless information. Which is undoubtedly a good quality in some fields, at least in the early stages.

>>14243803
Yes

>>14244022
same thing

>>14243819
if kids have enough time to masturbate, play games, smoke juul then they also have the same time to read. many fall under the former so its just a conflict of interests

>>14242529
They can't turn it off, knowledge is suffering.

>>14243771
I concur

>>14242548
/thread

I wouldn't be able to have mindless sex with girls that I don't see as equals.

there's not bigger turn off for me seeing the girl has not goals in life, something to strive for.

You can be hot, but your head is empty.

I feel unhappy because I'm alone and can see the cage of the simulation.
I can't bond with people that has not real interest, no passion in life.

They're slaves and can't see they're slaves.

What am I supposed to talk with the other peeps in the livestock cage?

They're happy living their slave lives inside this livestock farm, and that's ok.
But I can't stand npcs.

>>14244622
Your prose reminds me of a Pessoa poem. Based.

>>14244622
>if you are happy with what you are already then you are below me

>>14244656
>>14244694
I can't stand watching my family talks about the same topics, same memories, same goals in life, same discussions, day after day, night after day, sunrise after sunrise, for years to no end.

And when I was in college, was the same, my classmates were in a whatssapp group.
And they were discussing the same facebook memes, the same opinions, the same jokes.

And when I see people talking in the street, at the bus, is the same topics, the same family issues, the same mediocrity, the same tired and cliche goals in life, the same opinions as my family.

Nobody ever mentions something original, nor something that isn't the same cliche thoughs and life goals and life hobbies and life issues.

Is this a joke?
Are they trolling me?
Am I insane?

And whenever I go also on 4chan, those generals.
The same opinions, the same humour, the same jokes from facebook.
The same topics.
And they don't see it as wrong.

And they listen your opinions.
And they think you're the insane one, because you can't see how glorious is to talk the same topics and same shit and same BS day after day.

Don't they get tired of talking about the same?
Sometimes I think I am going insane, but I am the same, I haven't changed.

Am I insane?
Are they really correct I'm mentally ill?
Could be, but why?
why can't they see this situations, which concerns me deeply.

>>14242548
Savage
But true

>>14242575
When you meet someone who doesn't believe in IQ, ask them this one simple question. "Is there anything you think an intelligence test should do that an IQ test doesn't do?"

>>14244706
I relate to you greatly on this one. Even on the news, it's the same exact headlines day after day, year after year. I don't know how people don't go insane by this. I think they may enjoy the predictability, and they like simplicity, and they like having common topics to talk about with other people. To me, it feels like I'm suffocated inside the walls of a cage. I go mad seeing the same thing every day. I try to disassociate from the internet and from other people and I read more books, and this helps relieve this feeling I have.

>>14244706

People talk about the same things because they need a shared understanding of the subject before the subject can be discussed. Therefore if you don't know each other that well you HAVE to talk about mundane things.

If you start a conversation with someone you don't know that well you can do two things:
1. Talk about mundane things and see if you have things in common and get into deeper subjects over time if your interests touch.
2. Sperg the fuck out and lecture them about something you have a few thousand hours of experience in that they know nothing about. All they can do is nod politely and next time they see you they will avoid you.

You know number 2 is annoying because you've had people do it to you, I guarantee it. Don't be that guy.

So, that being said, what do you, or would you, like to talk about?

>>14244706
What original ideas do you have?

>>14244750
>>14244754
I never mentioned I was talking about myself talking to others.

I was talking of what I see when they talk to each other, to people they know for years.
I mean, they're your fucking friends, they're just your relatives, they're that person you know for years.

How can't you mention to that relative, to your best friend in that call on the bus, something deep.

I just wanna hear something that isn't the same old mundane family issues, the same trivial topics, the same old memories they repeat in every family reunion.

How bout mentioning a book you read, a movie you wanted to see, something beyond the average TV soap opera everyone saw, that speaks the same family issues you have on your daily life, the same expectations, the same cheap melodrama.
The same movies with the same plot.
The music that sounds the same.

And do the same, day after day, for years to no end.
The same expectations of working hard just so you can afford the bare minimum.
The fact you spend your money in the first day of the month and never save nothing.

The mental poverty.
When you start realizing, you start to wonder if they're really humans, if they have a soul.

But then you see their dull eyes, their dull look in the face, the same expresionless look.

And you start to wonder if you're insane.
And they want to bring you to their family reunions, to hear the same jokes, the same memories, the same gossip about that girl or guy who cheated on her friend.

>>14244772
I'm not sure.
but I've started to realize my own status as the only peep who can see the livestock where I live.

>>14244706
social information is becoming increasingly centralized by the internet, and the internet itself has become centralized by companies like cuckbook, instacuck, and youcuck, etc. Smartphones effectively killed the internet with their introduction in the mid 2010s by also giving normalfags continuous access to the web. The internet is fucking garbage and I miss what 4chan used to be.

>>14242529
It's a myth.
Loneliness just makes you more studious sometimes

>>14244793

>>14244813
closer to 2010. Around 2008.

>>14244818
I may be an NPC, dunno.

but why the fuck wont you do something that isn't like a preprogramed videogame character?

have u ever had a single original though?
have u ever listened a single original though from someone you know?

Why can't they mention the fact they feel the others are npc?

>>14244818
Just because you can't relate to anon doesn't mean he's wrong. I know exactly the kind of people he's talking about and it's depressingly mundane to be in that kind of environment all the time.

/pol tier back and forth
Glad I logged in today

>>14244825
>>14244827

The thing is I can relate and do agree to an extend. I just think that deep conversations require digging. People do say wonderful and meaningful things occasionally if you listen, which you don't do if you relegate everyone to sheeple.
Original thoughts are rare, useful original thoughts are even rarer.

I also think the 'woe is me why is everyone so stupid except me' attitude is narcissistic and lazy.

>>14244852
I've asked my family if they have goals or dreams for this year or the next year.

They amaze at this question, like if I'm weird.
They want the same average things everyone with a job wants.
Finish college, get a new bike, ask a loan to get a newer car.

The most astounding and original idea is to travel in vacation to some natural park.

Is this the original deep thoughs I should be amazed?

>>14244861

Those seem like legitimate answers to a very broad and vague question.
What would you like them to say? What would you say? What are your goals for this year or next year anon?

>>14244861
What's your goal/dream for the next year?

>>14242575
GUYS HE POSTED IT AGAIN HAHAHA
he literally makes retarded nonsense claims that "aren't even wrong". If anyone is a sophist psued its Taleb.

When did /lit/ get flooded with so many normies? Almost all geniuses throughout history were troubled and depressed

>>14244918
>>14244930
Pair of Normans

>>14244818
>xcuckd
Ah the original "I fucking love science" comic

>>14243147
you can just find and do your thing anon

>>14244918
>>14244930
My biggest concern is not to fullfill my dream.
But I am not good enough to make it truth.
I feel like I am wasting my life.
I feel like I have only 6000 days more before I am 60.
I'm struggling to live to my full potential.
I feel I am not putting the effort to become what I could be.

My dream for next year is to make a masterpiece, and I feel I could make it.
But I feel I am afraid It wont be good.
I feel I'm not good enough.

Why I can make my dream when It took a team of elite artist to make something I want to make?
Who am I if not a loser?
How can I make the same thing it took geniuses their entire life to make?

>>14242565
>Most suicidal people are 17 years old girls
>suicide victims are 82% male
yeah, no

>>14243263
Nice meme

>>14243007
>too stupid to figure out how to fix them.
Actually its because they are smart enough to realize that there is no fix

>>14243110
u got dem googles?

>>14243007
>too stupid to figure out how to fix them.
Imagine being this retarded
An individual needs an enormous amount of power to even begin making a noticeable impact on the world. And even then, the problems humanity faces are far too big in scope to be fixed by any single person.

>>14243771
Maybe because these are the types of people that defy social norms the most.

>>14245684
Men try to kill themselves more often with lethal weapons, so they succeed more ofren. Why does everyone complain that men do better at math, but not men do better at suicide?

>>14242548
I'm not intelligent so please elaborate, I would like to know.

>>14243263
seething christbrainlet detected

>>14243007
Uh smart people are ALLOWED to be aware of their intelligence you know? An aspect of intelligence is self awareness and how clear you are able to see the world, and how in tune your interpretation of events align with actual reality, so it's the cop out response to "dunning kruger" for whenever someone self declares their own intelligence is pretty cringe and big cope. It's like beautiful people can tell they're beautiful because of repeated positive feedback, smart people know theyre smart just by going outside and interacting with all the other dummies.

My world is full of lazy idiot that expect me to do everything for them while I listen to their complaints about how they do everything. I tell people their problems to their face and they can't accept them. I feel like giving up on everyone almost every day. Unlike retards, if you can give me a decent argument, I'll hear you out. I may not agree with it but I'll at least give an explanation why. Most people deserve to be smacked around like a rabid dog on a leash but I put the time in anyway. I know my anger doesn't solve anything. Sometimes it is my only move. Dealing with people has become so tiresome that I would rather just waste away. I don't do it that much anymore and keep myself busy. I hope that answers the question.

>>14244694
>normies are happy
>normies don't spend every minute of their lives trying to change themselves for external validation

>>14243007
>but too stupid to figure out how to fix them.
wrong, they realize how much EFFORT and energy it would require to fix them, the fact that they don't have even a fraction as an individual to even attempt

>>14245684
obviously the OP this anon originally responded to is retarded. he just regurgitated some non-sense he caught on via some female teen's FB post and called it a day.
but to be fair, more females attempt suicide than males. but males are much, much more likely to succeed in their suicide attempts because they tend to choose more lethal methods.
it could be because females "an hero" more in an effort to "cry for help" than a steadfast conviction to truly commit the deed
>"lulz, theyre attention-whoring even when it comes to life and death"

>>14242990
Did you even read the article?

>>14246162

>it could be

no, it is.

Have you ever seen a man who attempted to commit suicide but didn't die?
There's nothing more shameful and unmanly. There's a complete breakdown of masculinity that comes with, you will never be able to impose respect again to those who know you tried to kill yourself, woman will be drier than a mummy no matter how hot you are and people around you will see you as a potential risk.
I had to see a friend go through this, and he eventually succeeded.
If you are a man you better kill yourself right, or you gonna wish you were dead.

Women don't have to deal with that, so obviously they can cry for attention and claim to be suicidal. Their reputation is not at risk.

>>14244722
Plenty of things because there are different types of intelligence other than lolz find the right circley square.

None of you losers are intelligent, quit trying to think you are miserable because you are special
You are not, a loser is a loser, nothing more

>>14242529
They see things as they are.

>>14243263
Brainlets believe in organized religions
Midwits are atheists
High IQ chads are into mysticism and pantheist religions

>>14242529
Because modern society singles out intelligent people, brainwashes them through a university system and makes them a slave of academia or some useless career.

>>14245715
no, give me sum science bruv

>>14242529
friendly reminder that actually intelligent people are happy and successful
you're just a mopey fag with a 105 IQ

>>14247102
such as

>>14242967
Learn the difference between to and too, bro. It’ll make you look less retarded.

>>14247679
lurk more, newfriend

>>14247691
lurk less, oldfren

>tfw two intelligent for school
>tfw to intellegent for work
>tfw too intelligent for gf
>tfw tho intelegent for life

>>14242575
has anyone written a compelling counterargument to this article?

>>14242544
>to intelligent

>>14243007
>Freddy-Krueger effect
>calling other people midwits

>>14248200
yes, that is the joke, my dude