/lit/ - Literature

based, are there any books that refute the sexual revolution like Kaczynski's "Industrial Society..." refutes industrial revolution?

>>14242452
based. trannies and whores and atheists and capitalists btfo

>>14242469
Libido Dominandi by E. Michael Jones.

>>14242452
Based and Redpilled

Cool, another one of these

Based and redpilled

>It is a fundamental conservatism that gives Americans in the modern world a position almost identical with that of the Romans, a conservatism bolstered by the complete ascendancy of the conservative-minded sex – women. This links up with the best-known characteristic of American life: the hen-pecked nature of American men - the childish desire for love that Americans display in their contacts throughout the world is a direct consequence of the absolute predominance of the female principle. Intimacy, familiarity, lack of reverence have become the dominant themes of American life.

>>14242515
fuck, what is this from

>>14242452
I really do wish women were smarter and would organize in groups other than witches' covens, to selectively breed a future that looks feminine; to rid the history of sexual dimorphism.
Yet they don't. They speak vocally about the greatness of femininity and oppose masculinity. However, whenever given the chance, they select for it.

Lies are disgusting. How can they live with themselves?

>>14242452
Have sex. Literally find some cunt stupid enough to fuck you and slip her the tensky.

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>>14242508
Have sex

>Incels mad at women having sex
Grow up, retards. Literally nothing wrong with bodily autonomy. None of you are even rational about this.

>>14242522
Which tranny discord did you crawl out from?

>>14242532
>autonomy
Promoting responsibility is not the same as denying autonomy

>>14242531
Show tits

>>14242535
>trannies
Nonsense, my dream has nothing to do with them.
First of all, trannyism is artificial and inorganic. They are not only castrated in the process, but their DNA would make them masculine, or even autistic.
What I'm advocating for is a world where males and females would look the same with the exception of genitals. No ugly manfaces, no wide shoulders, no fixation on utilitarian qualities - only aesthetic and sexual.

>>14242539
based
>>14242532
cringe

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>>14242532
Dilate

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>>14242532
Zombies spamming on behalf of what Evola identifies as the subpsychic morass of sexual liberation, no will to even defend it in its own right. You have nothing to say, you have no vitality, just slavishness and blabber

>>14242566
What a degenerate line of thought. I hope it dies with you.

>>14242578
>degenerate
Evolved*. Men have unappealing features mostly because the bodies were shaped to do work. With machines doing most of that, women have gotten more and more social territory. It's a male emancipation movement that does not oppose women.

>>14242452
has anyone ever done a sort of synthesis of a perspective like this with a perspective from the feminist side of things. Sometimes it seems like they're saying similar things but just framing them differently.

>>14242532
>muh modern freedom

>>14242599
this, >>14242532 should read Aristotle to understand what actual freedom is

>>14242595
I might tend to disagree as the basis for feminism is the dissolution of hierarchy and of collective identity as something which imposes an ideal upon its forms, namely, imposes womanhood as idea and status upon women. If you can elaborate on what similarities and framing conflicts you see then you may be the first to construct the synthesis. I don't know if I have ever seen such a thing as what you are describing.

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>>14242595
Modern feminism is too superficial for that.

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>>14242539
Stop presupposing your definition of responsibility and then presupposing it as morally good. It's a result of very archaic views on gender..Being forced to do something as a slave is responsible but not good for instance

>>14242676
>.Being forced to do something as a slave is responsible
How can a slave be responsible for anything, you need a degree of freedom/power to be held responsible

>>14242676
Why should they abandon their definition of responsibiliy and adopt yours? What is the advantage of yours?

>>14242636
Aristotle does not count "bodily autonomy" as a good itself and aligning it with an inclination to vice, makes it an inherently wicked concept. You are not free but a slave.

>>14242532
In determining what is good, 'reason' is only one tool among many, and it is often an insufficient means of confronting wrong or bad things, or of confronting deception

>>14242452
Prophet Muhammad said that every time a woman became the leader of an empire, that empire would fall. Or something similar.

>>14242452
Thanks, but no thanks. I enjoy cooming.

>>14242724
that it maximizes individual pleasure. Thus it is exactly that feature of modernity which must be attacked first and foremost

>>14242532
>bodily autonomy
Non-concept.

>>14242452
Does he explain this?

>>14242931
>young men driving the decline in sex

lol, imagine publishing a study and having a graph that says the exact opposite of the truth in the title

>>14242938
That's not what that title means and you know it, anon.

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>>14242931
If you want a good interpretation of smaller numbers of people are having greater amounts of sterile sex, read F. Roger Devlin. The ubiquity of everything from sexualized media to hardcore pornography in mainstream culture via the digital world, which is engaged in by a harsh majority of men is very similar to Evola's characterization of the new sexual order of modernity in the passages above.

>>14242452
All too many social conservatives want to shut down pornography, tighten controls on prostitution, and restore puritanical norms from a time when men and women could only try to meet their sexual needs within the confines of life-long matrimony. This obviously should not (and will not) happen, if for no other reason than it traps too many couples in emotionally and sexually dead marriages.

The trouble with the sexual revolution isn't that it happened, but that it was incomplete. The problem is not that sex has been over commodified as hardline feminists and conservatives (talk about strange bedfellows!) like to assert; the problem is that it hasn't been commodified enough. The sexual industry in the broadest sense hasn't matured enough yet to cater to the myriad and diverse needs of lonely single people (of both sexes). Where are the Dr. Ruths for single people facing confidence issues or looking for advice? Is it really a surprise that young men turn to each other for solace in the deep recesses of the dark web — and that the result is often very ugly?

Progressivism's promise is to move toward social arrangements that increase the number of winners and diminish the number of losers. But until we achieve a utopia where everyone wins, we'll have to figure out ways to offer relief to the losers. This will require liberals to start taking the plight of people like the incels seriously, and stop penalizing intellectual mavericks like Hanson who have the nerve speak up on their behalf. And it will require conservatives to stop romanticizing an imperfect past and look for viable solutions that don't involve turning back the clock.

>>14243049
Do either them point out how this is in no way sustainable and that the millions of men who have failed to develop sexually beyond prepubescence are probably going to kill us all?

>>14242566
Based genderless man of the future from Atomised (Houellebecq, 1998).

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>>14242676
Genuinely embarassing that there are people this still juveniley minded about responsibility and respectability

>>14243061
the problem is chum that this is directly against female interests, which the left will never compromise. They are stuck like that forever, and will continue to blame men as society continues to break down due to the exclusionary sexual habits of women and the ever-worsening male situation.

it's fucked

>>14242452
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST COOM WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT MARRYING HER FIRST

>>14243061
>The problem is not that sex has been over commodified as hardline feminists and conservatives (talk about strange bedfellows!) like to assert; the problem is that it hasn't been commodified enough.

>>14242452
But what do you guys want to do? Force women to have sex with unattractive men they are repulsed by just so that they don't go berserk? How selfish.

>>14243228
Um, yeah? What's the problem?

>>14243061
>true [sex positivity] hasn't been tried!

>>14243061
In your opinion, making sexual hedonism even stronger is a good idea?
Pleasure is the greatest good and virtue is nothing?

>>14242531
Have children.

>>14243487
Fuck niggers and jannies

>>14243479
Why not both? Let's enjoy the coom and the virtue.

>>14242816
>responsibility exists to maximize pleasure
O I am laffin

>>14243600
You can't have both.