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Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:14:26 2019 No.14232977 [Reply] [Original]

Who are some thinkers that give a response to modernity that is not reactionary but rather try to rekindle our sense of wonder and give us a direction/strategy that leads us toward something entirely new?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:15:49 2019 No.14232979 File: 10 KB, 250x291, 34643567537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14232977 Unironically, Rene Guenon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:16:51 2019 No.14232981 >>14232979 I said not reactionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:19:39 2019 No.14232988 Whitehead and Deleuze

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:22:18 2019 No.14232999 >>14232977 New Sincerity or known as post-postmodernism

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:23:16 2019 No.14233001 File: 65 KB, 1200x514, 2253456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14232981 >Thinking Guenon is a Right wing Nationalist

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:25:10 2019 No.14233008 >>14232977 Jordan Peterson

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:26:10 2019 No.14233012 >>14233008 Jordan Peterson is a crypto Nazi though

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:28:27 2019 No.14233017 >>14232977 If you are"responding" to modernity instead of just being a modernist, you are reactionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:28:43 2019 No.14233019 >>14232999 new sincerity is reactionary. it is also a bad meme. dee eff dubs is a hack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:29:38 2019 No.14233020 >>14232977 Read Curtis Yarvin Neo-reaction is more neo than reaction

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:30:36 2019 No.14233021 >>14233001 >old GOOD new BAD >not reactionary also his silly idea of primordial tradition is inherently reactionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:39:37 2019 No.14233059 >>14233020 cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:41:37 2019 No.14233069 Just follow reddit and mainstream news since you're obviously going to reject any non-retarded suggestion anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:41:55 2019 No.14233071 >>14233059 This. Stop recommending this hack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:45:22 2019 No.14233085 >>14233069 >Guenon >Moldbug >DFW >non-retarded uhhhh

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:46:20 2019 No.14233089 File: 23 KB, 600x800, 1574638279876.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14233085

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:46:39 2019 No.14233091 >>14232977 Unironically, post WWII Evola.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:48:28 2019 No.14233101 Also Heiddegger If someone says Heiddegger was a “reactionary” just because he was a nazi (nazism was not reactionary btw), then how come he influenced Sartre, Merlot-Ponty and other progressivists?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:48:52 2019 No.14233103 >>14233021 Guenon was a huge critic of Traditionalism & Orthodox Christianity. He was a Neo-Traditionalist

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:49:28 2019 No.14233105 >>14233091 OP said not reactionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:49:42 2019 No.14233108 File: 155 KB, 472x785, 1566570467985.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14233012 Oh, if only that were true. I could feel less embarassed for my country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:50:32 2019 No.14233113 File: 24 KB, 260x383, Economic_and_Philosophic_Manuscripts_of_1844.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14232977 marx, read pic related

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 07:55:24 2019 No.14233139

>>14233105
Post-WWII Evola was a full on non-active (in the Taoist sense) accelerationist (let the Kali Yuga play itself out). Spiritually he embraced Tantra and the Left Hand path as the only efficient means in the Kali Yuga, as the traditional Vedic teachings and Right Hand paths no longer were effective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 08:00:55 2019 No.14233164 >>14232977 ((((((leo)))))))) (((((((((((((((((((strauss)))))))))))))))))))) taught that all great thinkers hid their true beliefs

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 08:03:39 2019 No.14233173 File: 30 KB, 303x475, downloadfile-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ahhh, finally...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 08:18:46 2019 No.14233225 >>14233139 stfu pseud

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 08:22:30 2019 No.14233245 >>14232977 Ayn Rand's whole shit was basically trying to sacralize modernity without the supernatural.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 09:11:20 2019 No.14233409 >>14233139 That's not what reactionary means

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 09:35:32 2019 No.14233501 What you said is basically the whole idea of marxism (excepting for its shit tier meme marxist leninists thinkers like Lenin)

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 09:57:47 2019 No.14233563 >>14233501 where to start with marxism?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:04:24 2019 No.14233582 >>14233563 A rope

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:11:05 2019 No.14233598

>>14233563
Like the other anon said, read the 1844 Manuscripts, then the communist manifesto, the german ideology, wage labor and capital, and then Capital (in that order). Fill in the gaps with any other text you like. Oh, and the prologue of the 1857 contribution to critique is mandatory

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:44:18 2019 No.14233679 >>14232977 Deleuze def rekindled a sense of wonder for me

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:45:20 2019 No.14233682 Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:47:11 2019 No.14233689 >nobody says Heidegger fucking retards i swear

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:52:29 2019 No.14233709 >>14233689 Someone did say Heidegger but Heidegger is bunk anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 10:54:18 2019 No.14233717 >>14233173 Seems interesting, could you perhaps explain Blumenberg's essential thoughts and ideas?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:02:06 2019 No.14233744 >>14232977 William James had his dick in Postmodern ass before it was past the age of consent

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:03:31 2019 No.14233746 Marxism, Deleuze, Foucault, Whitehead, the American Pragmatists

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:26:54 2019 No.14233825 >>14233173 I am so proud of you anon.

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:34:11 2019 No.14233875

>>14233717
Not that guy, but I would recommend you read both Richard Rorty's, and Martin Jay's reviews of Legitimacy of the Modern Age if you want a sense of Blumenberg's project. I don't think they're paywalled.

>>14232977
Eric Voegelin and Ivan Illich are both worth a look.

Voegelin is so much more than Buckley and Co's tedious invocations of him. Illich isn't just a guy who hates school, and definitely isn't pining for the middle ages as midwits would have you believe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:45:55 2019 No.14233932 >>14233875 >Eric Voegelin How is it going in Virginia, Professor Olavo de Carvalho?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:47:48 2019 No.14233947 >>14233932 Other people read Voegelin profitably besides that dork. Virgin

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:52:20 2019 No.14233973 >>14233021 You haven't actually read guenon have you?

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:52:57 2019 No.14233977
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>BTFOs Hegel
>BTFOs modernity
>BTFOs trannies
>BTFOs the technocratic drone human optimizing "consciousness-is-epiphenomenal" bugman slime cave nigger scourge
>rehabilitates Being as absolute plenitude
>all with an Irish brogue

no one /lit/ talks about this dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 11:53:49 2019 No.14233982 >>14233947 Nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 13:16:09 2019 No.14234434 >>14233101 Best answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 13:21:58 2019 No.14234465 >>14232977 Read Max Weber's stuff on the "Disenchantment of the World"

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:48:28 2019 No.14234935 >>14233977 Red pill me

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:49:19 2019 No.14234938 >>14232977 >>14232979 O-okay guénonposter

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:49:43 2019 No.14234939 >>14232977 Terence Mckenna, his book Food of the Gods deals with this in abundance

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:50:47 2019 No.14234946 >>14233103 >>14233105 Guénon & Evola were just dumb orientalists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:52:05 2019 No.14234955 >>14233139 yeah he became a mental camel-piss-sipper

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:54:06 2019 No.14234965 >>14232977 Hart Crane

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:18:14 2019 No.14235387 >>14232977 >give me thinkers that created postmodernism by criticizing modernism also there is no point because what you want you are going to call it fascism or reactionary

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:20:45 2019 No.14235405 >>14232977 Pasolini, Pavese

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 16:22:00 2019 No.14235412 >>14235405 >Pavese How

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:39:50 2019 No.14236156 >>14232977 Bookchin. >>14232979 Probably.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 19:08:12 2019 No.14236274 >>14232988 This. Based.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 19:09:59 2019 No.14236282 >>14233108 How dare you do that to a national treasure D:<

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 19:34:23 2019 No.14236377 >>14232977 This apu literally got a "aww" reaction outta me. Nice working spreading the fuzziness anon. Thanks and peace unto you sibling.

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