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How will Christians ever recover?

>> No.14225805

>>14225802
Dianetics had much more impact on everything, that's why the powers that be manipulated useful idiots against it, it threatens everything they do!

>> No.14225809

>>14225802
The Antichrist is genuinely my favourite Nietzsche book. Although Zarathustra is more poetic and well written, the Antichrist actually debunks "Orthodox" Christianity, while saving the true message of Yeshu

Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you.


Fuck St Paul desu

>> No.14225822

>>14225805
who did L Ron Hubbard BTFO in Dianetics?

>> No.14225828

>>14225805
>>14225822
the only thing L Ron Hubbard BTFO'd was the IRS

>> No.14225853

>>14225822
>>14225822
He absolutely BTFO psychiatry too, they have never recovered to this day.

>> No.14225859

>>14225802
>Has any one book BTFO a group of people more than pic related?
Nietzsche destroyed the Stoics in just one aphorism. Which is probably the single most impressive BTFO in history.

>> No.14225862

>>14225859
Yeah he outed their interpretation of nature being peaceful rather than chaotic

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>>14225802
>Has any one book BTFO a group of people more than pic related?
Yes

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>>14225802
>>14225875
*ahem*

>> No.14225882

>>14225879
kek

>> No.14225883

>>14225879
>>14225875

Both were Preemptively refuted by Nietzsche

>> No.14225915

>>14225879
lol

>> No.14225918

>>14225883
this is true. he did say that if someone take the antisemitic path of Wagner that it will lead to the destruction of Germany

>> No.14225987 [DELETED] 

>>14225805
>trying to troll /lit/ into reading L. Ron Hubbard
Do you think this is actually going to work?
Is this really a productivity use of your time?

>> No.14226006

>>14225802
>how will Christians recover?

by completely ignoring the book and pretending it dosent exist. Like they do every time someone points out a contradiction in their "Orthodox" Beliefs

>> No.14226074

>>14225802
Reminder that Nietzsche supported women’s education which literally negates every single thing he has ever written.

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>>14226074
keep seething

>> No.14226105

>>14225918
source?

>> No.14226502

>>14226074
Source?

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>>14226105
>>14226502
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST MAKE A CLAIM WITHOUT A SOURCE!!!!!

>> No.14226528

>>14226105
>>14226502
If you are looking for source, L Ron Hubbard studied just about everything and wrote a prolific amount of works to help humanity with their questions.

>> No.14226603

>>14226526
Correct. This is /lit/, not /pol/, faggot.

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>>14226528
Kek. I appreciate you Hubbard-poster.

>> No.14226657

>>14225802
How so?

>> No.14226700

>>14226657
Have you read the book?
Can any Christian actually respond to Nietzsches arguments against Paul?

>> No.14226706

>>14226700
Didn't read it.

>> No.14226913

>>14226074
He said the opposite and condemned public education and universal literacy as being the downfall of Western civilization.

>> No.14226992

>>14225859
Post the aphorism

>> No.14227134

>>14226992
If you haven't read Beyond Good and Evil why are you in this thread?
>You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power—how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live—is not that just endeavouring to be otherwise than this Nature? “Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"—how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature “according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise—and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves—Stoicism is self-tyranny—Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature?... But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with “the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.

>> No.14227151

>>14227134
Thanks for the pasta, but Hubbard writes better (but then everyone here knows that anyway as this is a Hubbard board. )

>> No.14227169

>>14227151
Where do I start with Hubbard? Was Hubbard pro-stoics?

>> No.14227214

>>14225918
The Nazis were the logical conclusion of his work and the closest expression in the form of a political movement thereof. Fanboys seethe that the Nazis lost and retroactively denounce them but the truth is that the Nazis were the Nietzschean supermen of his philosophy.

>> No.14227229

>>14225987
notice how there is no osho spam, this may be the same guy

>> No.14227258

>>14227214
This isn't even low effort

>> No.14228482

>>14225918
it's in one of his books. I cannot remember which one of the top of my head. it's either
beyond good and evil
genealogy of morals
twilight of the idols (I think it's this)
antichrist
zarathustra

>> No.14228488

>>14228482
or Ecce Homo

>> No.14228503

>>14227214
well Nietzsche said there's two ways to interpret Zarathustra.
one way is the way Nietzsche intended it to
the other is in an antisemitical way - which Hitler and co did.

I believe this is mentioned in Ecce homo. He talks about how he was amused that antisemites loved zarathustra and when he re-read through those lens he laughed and said "have at it"

>> No.14228576

meant >>14228482
for >>14226105

>> No.14228583

>>14227169
Start with Dianetics and then take it from there.
You will have a ball