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Books that debunk Calvinism? Please, I can't stop crying.

>> No.14218549

>>14218545
Why are you crying, anon?

>> No.14218550

>>14218545
Rock and sand, although its generic rebuttal.

>> No.14218562
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>>14218545

>> No.14218617

>>14218545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEB3h3g3Hus

>> No.14218839

>>14218545
Why cry? God is in control

>> No.14218865

Calvinism isn't very convincing, John Calvin was just a theologian who tried to shoehorn the gospel into an autistic formula that implodes in itself.

>> No.14218869

Unironically, The Holy Bible

>> No.14219054

>>14218545
In the last part of Saint Augustine's Confessions, he describes his views on God's perception of time. Basically, God experiences it very differently than we do and God doesn’t exactly foresee the future, rather it happens all at once for him. There is no “elect” because God doesn’t exactly pre-determine the fates he sees. In short, there's no way that Calvinism makes sense under an Augustinian model.

>> No.14219252

>>14219054
That is what calvin believed though. “Election” wasn’t God picking and choosing who would be saved but knowing, even though humans have free will to choose to sin, due to His “perception” who would and would not. Augustine was one of both Luther and Calvin’s biggest influences, they were def aware of his views.

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>>14218545
Option 1. Original Christianity. “Gnosticism”
Option 2. Enlightenment. Deism

>> No.14219291

>>14219054
I've heard this. Particularly, I'd like to see solid exegesis of Romans 9 which refutes the Calvinist understanding.

>>14219252
>Augustine was one of both Luther and Calvin’s biggest influences, they were def aware of his views.
This is true, but Augustine disagreed with Calvin on central points. Augustine did not believe in irresistible grace for example.

>>14219271
Get out of my thread, mothman.

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>>14218545
>Please, I can't stop crying.
Heh.

>> No.14219305 [DELETED] 

Go to hell /phil/istine!
>>11931854
>>>/his/

>> No.14219306

>>14219301
THIS IS FUCKING TERRIFYING HOLY SHIT
I was chuckling at OP calling butterfly "mothman" while I opened that picture
WTF
HOW DID IT KNOW

>> No.14219314

>>14219305
This is a thread about books talking about issues raised by a man who wrote a bunch of books on another book. I think it's /lit/ related.

>> No.14219317

>>14218545
Confession of dositheos

>> No.14219322

>>14218562
How could one human being literally right this much.

Seriously man. And it isn't even the complete version.