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Every great writer served in the military of traveled extensively. Is this true /lit?

>> No.14216405

>/lit's waifu

>> No.14216431

>>14216405
Right now she's probably somewhere in some filthy lefty joint cruising for dyke muff while our very own tranny imposter is using her name and image to live out his fantasies and dreaming of what it feels like to be an actual roastoid.

>> No.14216462

>>14216431
What even is the lore on the butterfly pics? The when/where/why/how?

>> No.14216470

It's false. Kant never traveled more than 25 miles away from Königsberg.

>> No.14216472

>>14216389
what army did he serve in?

>> No.14216473

>>14216470
He wasn't a fiction writer and, anyways, that makes sense for Kant lol.

>> No.14216477

>>14216470
How would Kant feel about Kaliningrad today?

>> No.14216481

>>14216470
>implying he didn't explore the universe with his mind

>> No.14216496

>>14216477
He wouldn't be happy.

>> No.14216505

>>14216405
not even remotely

>> No.14216507

Proust

>> No.14216514

>>14216389
Shut up. Stop posting. Go troll /his/

>> No.14216522

>>14216507
Whoops never mind he did a year in the army
I assumed with his lung troubles he wouldn’t have served. I was wrong.

>> No.14216535

>>14216389
James Joyce dispels this notion

>> No.14216541

>>14216535
Literally half of the great authors of the 20th century dispel this notion.

>> No.14216575

>>14216535
He lived in Paris for awhile and travelled throughout Europe. His first book was also published at 33.

>>14216541
Hardly

>> No.14216579

>>14216389
As true as it gets.

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>>14216389
Ariosto spent most of his life inside one city, and wrote an epic where the heroes go all over the world, twice

>> No.14216601

>>14216477
That was probably the funniest think the Russians ever did

>> No.14216614

>>14216462
you had to be there man, /lit/ back in the day was something else

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>>14216389
Leopardi wrote his best literature (except for the Small Moral Works and La Ginestra) when he was secluded in Recanati, a little hill town with zero cultural life.

>> No.14216724

>>14216389
>Kafka
>Pessoa
>Lovecraft

>> No.14216740

>>14216724
>>Kafka
He applied for service during WW1 but got declined because of TB. He also lived in Czechia, Austria, and Germany experiencing many different regime changes in his lifetime.

>Pessoa
Lived in multiple countries as his father was stationed elsewhere. Didn't serve but was heavily involved in the Portuguese coup

>Lovecraft
Not a great writer

>> No.14216801

>>14216470
Kant may have been a brilliant philosopher but great writer he was not

>> No.14216809

>>14216575
>Joyce's first book was published at 33
y-you mean there's still time?

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Emily Dickinson

>> No.14216813

>>14216389
Faulkner

>> No.14216828

>>14216389
HA. No. It is not true. At all.

>> No.14216832

>>14216740
>>14216801
Op you're fucking retarded. Of course a lot of writers have traveled at least once, and the military service was OBLIGATORY, in case you didn't know. This doesn't change the fact that most of the greatest writers were sedentary creatures of habit who got paranoid every time they had to live their city/region/country. This thread is already full of examples.

>> No.14216853

>>14216832
Only one of those was OP. And still it made them better writers probably

>> No.14216866

>>14216828
why?
>>14216813
Got rejected for being being too short, then joined a Canadian air school but left after a month. Also traveled all of Europe and had a pretty unorthodox life.
>>14216810
First reasonable answer

>> No.14216871

>>14216866
>First reasonable answer
You're actually retarded.

>> No.14216878

>>14216871
>You're actually retarded.
Why? She was relatively localized and didn't serve.

>> No.14216885

>>14216614
How do we change back?

>> No.14216903

It is a fact that every truly great writer was:
*male
*wealthy or otherwise not required to work for a living
*if not wealthy then hopelessly destitute
*well-traveled
*had a propensity for violence
*very horny

It can be deduced from these axioms that all these authors were of noble bloodlines, descended from aristoi, from conqueror ethno-castes. They were all spiritual Aryans who despised work, thrift, humility, and every Puritan bourgeois metric of "virtue."

>> No.14216909

>>14216871
I'm talking about compared to contemporary Americans. Most Americans only ever live in 1-2 states let alone another country, never leave the country without a tour guide, hardly ever visit more than half the US states by themselves or without an organized tour, never attempt to join the military, or know multiple languages.

>> No.14216927

>>14216885
You can’t. It was our generational moment as silly as it was

>> No.14216945

>>14216389
who's borges

>> No.14216973

>>14216389
Emily Dickinson

>> No.14216983

>>14216945
You tell me bruv

>> No.14216985

>>14216878
>>14216909
Emily Dickinson is probably the perfect example to disprove OP's claim, but it's definitely not the "first reasonable answer". Kant, Proust, Ariosto, Leopardi, Kafka, Pessoa, Lovecraft, Faulkner are all right.

>> No.14216991

>>14216389
Descartes
Pynchon
Tournier
Bufalino

>> No.14217002

>>14216945
He lived in Switzerland

>> No.14217003

>>14216945
He traveled a ton.

> Descartes
He got exiled from France
> Pynchon
Was in the Navy for two years
> Tournier
Who?
> Bufalino
Who?

>> No.14217006

>>14217003
Read more.

>> No.14217014

>>14217003
>>14216991

>> No.14217049

100 years ago maybe

>> No.14217060

DFW never traveled until he was famous

>> No.14217062

>>14217060
Yeah but his parents wrote all his books.

>> No.14217070

>>14217060
He was also an oversized toddler and a 'cool' academic, but an academic nonetheless. Infinite Jest is partly responsible for the bureaucratization of artists and these neo-liberal MFA publishing ideologue houses.

>> No.14217077

>>14217070
So he was like /lit/ but with an actual degree?

>> No.14217106

>>14217077
>So he was like /lit/ but with an actual degree?
He's the type of person that would act like he's above /lit, but constantly post in critique threads then get pissed off when an actual smart anon shits on his work.

>> No.14217171

>>14216389
Please Buttersy my cute little mommy you my delightful favourite tripfag, fire of my loins, goddess of my dreams, please for the love of God post a picture of your butthole every night I fantasize about cumming deep inside your lovely little pink hole and making you call me daddy and asking if it hurts and hearing you reply yes daddy then asking you if you're willing to take the pain for daddy then thrusting even harded as you moan everything for you daddy and then cumming deep inside you and grabbing your hair and yelling really loud as your buttocks are pressed against my crotch and sticking two fingers in your mouth as you feel my warm load fill your anal cavity and then calling you a good girl and patting you on the head and watching you lay on your back as you wait for the sperm to drip out of your arsehole and then making some avocado toast for both of us and calling you a good submissive girl as you grab your pained hole and call me a sick fuck please butters do it just once.

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>>14216389
>Every great writer served in the military

yes

>> No.14217227

>>14217106
There are no smart people on this website hahahaha

>> No.14217273

>>14216389
I mean I don't think a lot of them went to war by choice.

>> No.14217401

>>14216703
Hnng, all that velum

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>>14217705
>>14216462
here/now

>> No.14217714

>>14217705
What a man chin

>> No.14217730

>>14216535
Ffs he was the very archetype of the author in exile, towards which those who came after aspired. He left Dublin aged 22 and only returned 2 or 3 times for short stays. He dragged his family between Trieste, Zurich and Paris, continually displaced by war. I don't understand why anon comments on things without the faintest notion of what he's talking about.

>> No.14217765

>>14216985
Faulkner did a short stint in the Canadian RAF

>> No.14217774

Was about to disagree until I remembered my favorite author (W. S. Maugham) actually served in WW1, albeit as a spy, but still.

>> No.14217778

>>14216389
Who is that cute girl and where do I get more of her?

>> No.14217780

>>14217713
Moar?

>> No.14217782

>>14216462
>lore

Butterfly is probably a dude. He also posted as "Feminister," and pretended that there was some kind of acquaintance between the two of them. Then one day the owner of the Feminister trip accidentally left the tripcode on while posting in /adv/, exposing "herself" as a man. /lit/ hated Feminister, a mildly irritating gimmick poster, and naturally had fun with this slip-up. Feminister promptly disappeared from /lit/ forever, and Butterfly went on a suspiciously pointed campaign to defend Feminister by concocting harebrained stories about how it was all a ruse and Feminister just enjoyed occasionally pretending to be a man. It was odd how dogged Butterfly was in defending this random tripfag out of the blue. The natural conclusion most people drew was that both trips were alts of the same person, who was a man.

Note that the alleged Butterfly camwhore pics are not selfies, taken specifically for the purpose of camwhoring on /lit/. They are screenshots of longer video sessions.

>> No.14217784

Meh, I wouldn't put too much worth into that metric. Working a 9-5 today is as stressful to the psyche and soul as being in war back then

>> No.14217789

>>14216405
Justin Murphy is my waifu and sifu

>> No.14217794

>>14217782
Mind blown desu

>> No.14217799

>>14217782
>longer video sessions
who's got the goods?

>> No.14217812

>ywn eat butterfly’s pussy
why live bros

>> No.14217824

I have a (paranoid?) friend who believes that literally every c20 writer is a government spy or stooge of some kind. The funny thing is, every exception I pose he has a semi-convincing account for. Is he nuts or am I just naive?

>> No.14217825

>>14217812
Probably tastes like man ass with mayonnaise desu

>> No.14217832

>>14217824
Meant to say: every c20 AMERICAN writer.

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>>14217782
HOLY- oДo!!!!!!! who knew the /lit/ lore could be so effed up!?

>> No.14217854

>>14217705
Is images like this that make think butters is a tranny, but has tits (>>14217713). granted she is like what 40s and she could just be hitting the wall

>> No.14217915

>>14217782
who leaked the video screen caps then?
how about the butt pic?
THE PLOT THICKENS

>> No.14217935

>>14217782
Oldfag, can you tell us how /lit/ first gained interest in Pynchon and Wallace?

...Did butterfly introduce /lit/ to Stirner?

>> No.14217966

>>14217915
>the butt pic
What? Where? Show me, anon. Quickly, now that you mention this the mods are going to nuke the thread.

>> No.14217972

>>14216389
no, especially not if you count philosophy

>> No.14217994

>>14217966
as debauched as i am, im not autistic enough to save the pic
youll have to search the archive or wait for some more deranged anon to come along and post it
>you will never playfully slap that thicc butt after sweaty secks
>why even live bros

>> No.14218000

>>14216389
If you think writing on travels and wars are great, sure.

>>14216462
Came in Anonymous, soon adopted a name by a random sample from a Zalgo thread in /b/. Anon and other trips were fairly nice, and well read. I learned a lot. Some anons kept accusing me of being a girl though I usually passed as male since I’m attracted to women. I confessed soon after, but also that I was a homosexual woman.
I am not Feminister. No ones sure who that was.
I left for a time and returned. Now that I’m back, I’m one of the smarter ones here. Which is sad.

I took the pics of myself for other purposes. From a video long since lost. No nudes will ever surface

>> No.14218015 [DELETED] 

>>14218000
shut the fuck up, faggot. you literally got exposed.

>> No.14218020

>>14217794
I defended Femi because she was awesome.
Too heterosexual, but still

>>14217799
>>14217915
I have all the pics (on another computer) obviously

Busy now

>> No.14218027

>>14218015
Naw.

>> No.14218069

>>14216601
thanks, I live here. I remember not so long ago, maybe a year, some kids wrote "Traitor to the motherland" in graffiti over his statue, made me laugh

>> No.14218138

>>14216740
Nice move of goalposts, faggot.

>> No.14218277

>>14218020
>I have all the pics (on another computer) obviously
Please send them.

>> No.14218290

>>14217782
I fucking love this place

>> No.14218315

>>14218138
Ok. Retard.

>> No.14218329

>>14218000
>I’m one of the smarter ones here. Which is sad.
Could you be any more disingenuous you narcissistic dyke, your posts reek of verbosity and your academic articulation ‘well I’m so reasonable and rational blah blah blah’ is sickening.

>> No.14218387

>>14218000
You're 40 on a board with people in their early 20s. No fucking shit that you're smarter.

>> No.14218440

>>14217935
The meme trilogy predates /lit/. The meme trilogy is the meme trilogy because they are three dense, often difficult 1000 page tomes that humanities majors of the last decade would measure their metaphorical cocks with. Their places are part of an academic zeitgeist that the original posters (the now nearly extinct first peoples who go all the way back to the /r9k/ days) of /lit/ came into their own in. The sort that you would lay carelessly around your dorm or strike up conversations about at hipster parties while Jeff Mangum raped your ears.
Ulysses is the classic, used to impress the plebs like your mom, because those outside of literature think it is the hardest book to read ever written, and Gravity's Rainbow was for your professors because it was perfectly crafted to appeal to their baby boomer mentalities. Infinite Jest was special because it was the one we used to get laid. Deep down we all have this deep, interpersonal connection to DFW because he, unlike Joyce and Pynchon, was us: humanities students trying to leverage our talents to get the human connection (mostly physical) that we missed out on in high school. That's why Dave is still a sort of idol to /lit/, even if he is the least talented of the three. It is why, conversely, he is so absolutely and universally despised by every girl in your lit class, despite the fact they've never read him. In fact, to this day, the mere utterance of the words Infinite Jest will send a woman of the over-the-age-of-26-but-under-the-age-of-35 into a sort of post-tramautic fit of men in scarves and plastic-frame glasses wielding quotes about depression and isolation. Being a lit guy in college around 2010 or so was far different than it is now, less than a decade later. You just had to be there.

>> No.14218462

>>14218440
>Being a lit guy in college around 2010 or so was far different than it is now, less than a decade later. You just had to be there.
Well now it's just pathetic. The /lit girls at party are ugly and usually impressed by some bullshit album. The guys are insufferable pseuds too. I'd imagine it was always somewhat similar.

>> No.14218488

>>14217713
Rich Evans?

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>>14218387
so buttercunt is post-wall?
everyday my luv for buttercunt dampens. a blooming flower will necessarily wilt away. hastily uttered proclamations gradually erode away from the unforgiving tides of time. even the strongest metals will eventually rust.

as one gains wisdom, so do we lose our innocence.
your dreams wont come true. no one truly cares about you. kylie jenner's ass is fake.

a bittersweet tear trickles down my face. i cannot promise you my undying devotion buttercunt. i am not arrogant enough to pledge forever.
but i can promise to fantasize about you, for the time being, as i stroke my shriveled penor, before you inevitably fade from my lust-fueled interest. porn stars come and go. there is a limit to how much infatuation one can become entangled in when you can only watch from afar.

buttercunt, you were the best of /lit, you were the worst of /lit.

>> No.14218507

>>14216505
:3's waifu more like.

>> No.14218906

Gerald Murnane has never traveled. He went to Tasmania once and hated it. He win an award where half of the prize money is supposed to be spent on international travel and they had to make a special exception for him lol

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>>14218000
>i'm one of the smarter ones here

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>>14218000
>I'm one of the smarter ones here.

>> No.14219334

>>14218000
>one of he smarter ones here
Bitch I saw you in a thread not two weeks ago telling a kid who was bullied as a child by other children to the point he was being molested that children are inherently pure
You’re nothing but another dumb cunt who likes the smell of her own fucking farts.

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>> No.14219409

>>14217705
>>14217713
>>14219338
yummy

>> No.14219423

>>14219334
Kids learn that shit from being abused themselves. What kind of brain damage you got?

>> No.14219433

>>14219423
You have no reason to believe that to always be true.

>> No.14219437

>>14219423
>Kids learn that shit from being abused themselves
at least most of them didn't dilate

>> No.14219575

>>14218000
> I’m one of the smarter ones here.
Its funny watching you try recuperate on /tv/ and get btfo even there

>> No.14219590

>>14216740
Kafka is the physical manifestation of jewish neuroses

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>>14217705
>>14217713
>>14219338

>> No.14219610

>>14219575
She's on TV?

>> No.14219615

>>14219610
Yes

>> No.14219620

>>14219615
what thread?

>> No.14219628

>>14219620
Check 4plebs
I think she only posts on /tv/ when she wants to indulge her masochism

>> No.14219924

>>14216431
>she

>> No.14220912

>>14219575
It's always funny watching you try to inflate your ego with these "u got btfo" posts

>>14219620
Random junk. Just for funs

>> No.14220959

>>14220912
When are you gonna post some nudes here, butters? There’s no reason not to.

>> No.14220979

>>14217705
>>14217713
lol I think one of my friends know butterfly irl

>> No.14220989

>>14219338
is this butterfly's ass?

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>>14220979
quick, PM me her number. i want to woo her like Chasing Amy. except instead of getting the gal, my efforts will just reaffirm her homosexuality.
>i-i-imagine the smell... of defeat

>> No.14221006

>>14216801
Kant was a great writer dealing with extremely complex ideas. iirc there's a german guy who tried to simplify the first critique, it ended up being 3000 pages long.
To really appreciate his style you have to push through his books at least once, when you'll reread them you'll find out that everything clicks and that not one word was wasted by the great Immanuel.

>> No.14221015

>>14216903
Shakespeare, Petrarch and Dante don't fit most of these criteria lol

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>>14218000

I enjoy your input, « Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ». It's nice to see different viewpoints.

>> No.14221387

>>14218000
> I’m one of the smarter ones here. Which is sad
You most definitely are not. You are almost always a detriment to this board and you derail with off topic political shit every thread you touch. You are actively annoying.

>> No.14221410

>>14221006
>>14216801
>Kant was a brilliant philospher
>"Don't use people as means to an end thats the definition of unethical"
The mind of a child, really.

>> No.14221412

>Is this true
False

>> No.14221413

>>14221355
Takk fyrir, elskan mín.

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>>14221413
buttercunt never replies to me :'(
>i am adrift in a sea of my lonely coom. my woeful serenades fall on deaf ears.
>i pull myself to shore with my weak frog hands. my disgraceful pepe webbing provides barely enough traction to pull myself up.
>"no! dont look at me! pls!" i cry
>i can hear the distant laughter amid my futile attempts to shield my face.
>a thick mist lies before me - i must retreat. i slip away into anonymity.
>"i must go in, the fog is rising."

>> No.14222556

>>14221413
tha fàilte oirbh mo ghràidh Innis Tìle

>> No.14222717

>>14218000
You're the worst poster of the entire fucking 4chan, not only of /lit/.
>doesn't read and pretends to have opinions
>despises art and literature in their highest forms
>shits entire threads with political dogshit no one cares about
>completely ignorant of basic historical facts
>insults religious people, no matter what they say
>lurks in every thread 24/7 and pops up in the middle of conversations with a pretentious and authoritarian tone
>clearly an attention whore
>can't take a joke
>tripfag
Kill yourself you toxic cunt, not even other lesbians like you.

>> No.14222963

>>14221516
Why would you want her to?

>> No.14222975

>>14219615
she's also on /fa/ and posts exclusively semen demons and anticapitalist anti-fast fashion without anybody asking. it's just like in this board except occasionally you guys have Marxist discussions so she sometimes fits in here.

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>>14222963
The fog is rising

>>14221516
I have not lost any golden orb, fren.
>buttercunt
I ought to retract that last word.

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>>14222975
The fascists are leaning on /fa/ especially hard. NO ONE asks for their threads

>> No.14223022

>>14219423
>Kids learn that shit from being abused themselves
And the abusers too, and we can go back to infinity if you don't accept about someone's responsibility. And so I ask, does every abused child abuse others? There's a point were they chose to do or not. So in the end, what was your point?

>> No.14223026

>>14219575
/tv/ is so fucking unbearable these days

>> No.14223036

>>14223026
at least lit doesn't have chapofags and butterfly

>> No.14223046

any good /lit/ chats with pepole who actually read?

>> No.14223051

>>14223010
>The fog is rising
Oh you.
That's the worst thing about you butterball. I know there's a human behind this ugly trip, and you have your moments of actually being funny, interesting, and sincere.
Plus, you have good taste in waifus.

>> No.14223072

>>14223022
Go and ask them, Mr. Freewill

>>14223026
It is pretty bad

>>14223051
That’s the worst?

>> No.14223077

>>14223036
Ill take a thousand marxist kiddies over whoever the fuck is posting on that board these days. You can't have a conversation about literally anything anymore

>> No.14223096

>>14223072
>That’s the worst?
In MY opinion. Your socialist preaching can be pretty bad too, since you asked.

>> No.14223104

>>14223026
If we're being honest this whole fucking site is unbearable.

>> No.14223130

>>14223104
Maybe its time you go back to r*ddit then.

>> No.14223142

/tv/ is comfy af and i don't even watch tv or shows.