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14214433 No.14214433 [Reply] [Original]

Stop reading fiction. Stop engaging with art. It's a poor imitation of a imitation. It's designed to put you in an irrational state of mind so you're more likely to accept as truth what's evidently false. Doesn't it occur to you that if you saw a man dressed as a king, with a skull in his hand, rehearsing a fictional dialogue about suicide, you would think you were witnessing a psychotic delusion? Wouldn't you call the police on that man? Yet, actors do this sort of stuff all the time, and no one seems to find strangeness. Don't you think it's a little weird that they can portray rapists, murderers, pedophiles, cheaters, charlatans and all other types of scum so well? Come on, it can't be that they...
And yet yes, it's true, fiction is evidently misleading. It acts on your subconcious because it's "pleasurable", which releases dopamine, making it more palatable the truths of a highly artificial world.
So please, i urge you. come out of your mom's basement, stop writing that terrible novel, stop reading these trash books, and stop watching these horrible films. Go out, be greeted by the sun, read books on maths, philosophy, understand your place in the universe through facts and logic, and not a warped delusion of a myth maker.

>> No.14214449

ok retard

>> No.14214457

>>14214433
>stop releasing dopamine or else you’re a coomer boomer soomer buzzword

>> No.14214585

>>14214433
holy autismo

>> No.14214603

ok i'll listen to u, internet incel

>> No.14214611

>>14214433
Art is literally the only reason I've not offed myself yet so stfu

>> No.14214632

Ah to be 14 again.

>> No.14214634

>>14214433
nice pasta. Saved

>> No.14214637

must be 18+ to post here

>> No.14214649

go fuck yourself stupid cunt

>> No.14214652

>>14214433
Fuck that noise. Fanfics are too lit for that rhetorical shit.

>> No.14214660

>>14214433
Stfu platofag. Go read Poetics.

>> No.14214669

Rejecting fiction is cringe.

>> No.14214675

>>14214669
This. If anything we should reject reality.

>> No.14214676

It is, moreover, evident from what has been said, that it is not the function of the poet to relate what has happened, but what may happen- what is possible according to the law of probability or necessity. The poet and the historian differ not by writing in verse or in prose. The work of Herodotus might be put into verse, and it would still be a species of history, with meter no less than without it. The true difference is that one relates what has happened, the other what may happen. Poetry, therefore, is a more philosophical and a higher thing than history: for poetry tends to express the universal, history the particular.
get fucked, pl*tofag

>> No.14214680

>>14214433
Hahaha go to south america bro I hear they love philosophy hahahahhaha

>> No.14214685

>>14214433
Pleasure isn't mediated by dopamine.

>> No.14214690

>>14214680
they don't

>> No.14214696

>>14214433
ok boomer

>> No.14214709

>>14214676
hmm so let's think what may happen. tomorror it may happen that i'll wake up with a 9 inch penis, millions of dollars in my purse, and the respect of my parents. it may happen that i won't be a khv 25 years old virgin. let's just wait then. it may happen that a kackzinskian revolution breaks up in america and people start living in the woods again...
surely such exercise is so grounded in reality, it's really "what may happen", and so above history and philosophy. oh i truly see a bright future

>> No.14214713

brb reading a math textbook for fun; thanks for the advice OP

>> No.14214720

>>14214713
imagine having fun in 2019

>> No.14214727
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>>14214709
By the universal I mean how a person of a certain type on occasion speak or act, according to the law of probability or necessity; and it is this universality at which poetry aims in the names she attaches to the personages.

literally the sentence right after the one I posted

>> No.14214737

>>14214727
it's probable that when i wake up as a non khv, and a non loser, i'll be very happy

>> No.14214746

>>14214675
what are you, 14?

>> No.14214750

>>14214737
I would be very happy if you weren't a drooling retard

>> No.14214782

>>14214660
This.
Poetry > philosophy
Only teenagers disagree.

>> No.14214834

>>14214433
>It's designed to put you in an irrational state of mind
Not necessary since all humans are in that state of mind at all times.

>> No.14214849

>>14214782
Based. One single Dickinson poem has more value than all philosophy

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>>14214849
Holy based

>> No.14214924

>>14214849
>Dickinson
cringe

>> No.14216001

>>14214834
Yes, so this can be rightly dismissed as irrational, which means that human are actually rational all the time.

>> No.14216011

Let me guess: you're American.

>> No.14216020

>>14216011
Why are you guessing that?

>> No.14216426

>>14214849
>>14214916
yuh
>As a rule the philosopher is a kind of mongrel being, a cross between scientist and poet, envious of both. Metaphysics puts a good deal of rancor into the blood- a very curious and most interesting phenomenon. I was considerably engrossed by it for a couple of years, but it was a waste of time I now regret.

-flaubert

>> No.14216441

> understand your place in the universe through facts and logic

I do understand. That’s why I use fiction to pass the time until I die.

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>>14214433
The problem is, the majority of retarded /lit fiction lovers are right-brain dominant. They use emotional reasoning primarily, logical/rational reasoning secondarily. While they are able to improve their left-brain functionality to a certain extent, they are ultimately hardware-limited.

Let them wallow in their faggoty little worlds, there is no saving them.

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>>14214433
Then have people make literature with true UNALTERED facts. Instead, we have authors that alter shit based on their opinions or from committees that say what is right and what isn't. On top of all of that, there could be incorrect translations that screw everything up or new discoveries that just throw the old knowledge out the window.

>> No.14216538

>>14214433
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking saged, kiddo.

>> No.14217058

>>14214449
fpbp

>> No.14217102

>>14214433
Why is Plato taken seriously after spouting such nonsense?

>> No.14217117

Rationalism is anti-life. It is in everyone's best interest to be as irrational as possible.

>> No.14217124

>>14216011
the entertainment industry is bigger than the food industry in america, though

>> No.14217134

>>14214433
reminds of Plato's theory of art.
You may see it's an imitation but that's only the case for bad art. Good art exists and has a certain power. It appeals to the will in Plato's ethics. Bad art has a bad affect on that will but you need to keep in mind that's art is an energy that can go both ways.
The issue isn't art but artists.

>> No.14217136

not a single argument against OP. sad

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14217165

Fiction paints the rooms of one's imagination - Fiction brings colour to idealspace.

>> No.14217184

>>14214433
>i hate imagination

>> No.14217190

>>14214433
Fuck off, Aristotle already proved you wrong

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>>14214433
Socrates did not literally have the dialogues attributed to him - they are fiction. If all fiction is evil then you must also throw away Plato's dialogues

>> No.14217231

>>14214433
go home Plato you're drunk

>> No.14217240

>>14214433
Why'd you post an image, dummy?

>> No.14217248

>>14214433
Give me a fact bitchy boy

>> No.14217282

>>14217248
the earth is flat

>> No.14217296

>>14217282
wrong, if you want me to believe you, show me your steps, first, how do you know the earth exists?, then, how do you know forms exist?

>> No.14217301

>>14214433
Agree OP, more people need to read non-fiction books such as the Bible.

>> No.14217332

>>14214433
This is the logical endpoint of NoFap, the Apollonian apex

>> No.14217343

>>14214449
Based

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>>14214849
This was based until you mentioned Dickinson.
>I am so quirky and weird lol there’s a fly in my brain lmao I was at my own funeral hee hee sex with you is like the ocean
Embarrassing. Go read some Byron and stop shitting up this board with your shitty lit waifu. I know all the Emily posting is one faggot as well.

>> No.14217523

all writing is pigshit

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>>14214433
Is this bait? Is this autism? Is it both?

>> No.14217556

>>14217523
Including your post then faggot nigger

>> No.14217570

>>14217296
but before those things
how do you know he is wrong?