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Which Shakespeare plays are patrician tier? Which, if listed as favorites, immediately make one a brainlet?

From what I've read,
>Patrician
Hamlet
The Tempest
Much Ado About Nothing
Romeo and Juliet (as a comedy)
Richard III

>Brainlet
Romeo and Juliet (as a tragedy)
Titus Andronicus (although this one is debatable desu)
Comedy of Errors
the anti-Semitic one whose name escapes me

>> No.14214804

>>14214769
The anti Semitic one is The Merchant of Venice and it’s garbage

Also patrician tier Taming of the Shrew, but more as a horror thriller than comedy.

>> No.14214909

>>14214804
I look forward to reading that one...haven't heard it described that way

>> No.14214935

>>14214769
How would Romeo and Juliet be a comedy?

>> No.14214993

>>14214935
If you're curious, seriously Google it and you'll find insightful commentary about abrupt shifts in its dramatic structure: specifically, the ending, which people* use to classify these works, is what defines it as a tragedy when up until that point, it's more of a black comedy or a tragicomedy.

*I say "people" because this is something I've been taught and told time and time again; I have no clue if that's correct

t.brainlet

>> No.14214995

>>14214909
The stuff he does to “tame” her would be considered war crimes under the Geneva convention.

>> No.14215031

>>14214993
I get it, part of the beauty of the play is that it leads you to think that they'll marry despite their families. The comedic tone enhances the tragic end. The effect is ruined by people knowing it's tragic before seeing it though.

>> No.14215059

>>14214935
Get rid of the ending and it's pretty much a comedy.

>> No.14215070

What about Macbeth and King Lear?

>> No.14215095

>>14215070
King Lear = Patrician
MacBeth = Pleb

>> No.14215110

Nietzsche-tier:
Julius Caesar

Melville-tier:
Timon of Athens

>> No.14215188

>>14214769
Richard III is overrated, Richard II is better.

>> No.14215242

Hamlet
Lear
Midsummer Night's Dream

>> No.14215281

>>14215188
Have yet to read it

>> No.14215300

Much Ado, As You Like It and Twelfth Night are the most patrician comedies

>> No.14215316
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14215316

why are you asking chantards?

most these fucks know about Shakespeare is what they were spoonfed in highschool.

welcome to post2016/lit/, newfag.

>> No.14215342

>>14215316
Just because you don’t know what you’re talking about doesn’t mean that neither does anyone else.

>> No.14215377

>>14215059
If you change the play it would be a different play, sure.

>> No.14215398

>>14215059
It would end with Romeo exiled for murdering Tybalt and he can never live with Juliet

>> No.14215408

>>14214769
My favourites are Hamlet, Macbeth, Taming of the Shrew

>> No.14215430

>>14215095
It's the other way around.

>> No.14215432

>>14214769
Macbeth is Shakespeare distilled to perfection.

>> No.14215556

What's wrong with Titus? Too simple?

>> No.14215583

>>14215556
Melodramatic plot, weak characterisation, not particularly poetic writing. It's one his early ones and it shows, probably his weakest after Henry VI trilogy

>> No.14215847

>>14214769
>Patrician
The Tempest
Julius Caesar