/lit/ - Literature

>>14210581
It's pretty fucking bad, but not the worst by virtue of being unintentionally hilarious. I'd rather read a collection of McGonagall's than anything by Rupi Kaur or her imitators.

It's not "bad" exactly but it's pretty amateurishly done. Who couldn't describe an even and rhyme words like town and down. Dude rhymes Tay with way like 6 times

Did it never occur to you to post the fucking thing? You know, for easy reference so other people know what the fuck you're talking about?

>just google it
Missing the entire point, like a fucking retard.

>>14210849
Why is it bad

>>14210869
an event^

>>14210870
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45828/the-tay-bridge-disaster

>>14210875
It was earnest and they tried. Are you honestly going to say it was worse than this? I write poems worse than that

If you don't think McGonagall is unreadable, you must be one of those clueless "poetry is cool" guys who posts the worst garbage in /crit/ threads.
All the same I won't argue he's fun to read; my college poetry club used to play a game where you had to guess each shit rhyme. His home city of Dundee, famous for its very necessary sense of humor (it's a shithole) has some of the lines from Tay Bridge embedded in bronze in the riverside walk.

>>14210873
Does it make you feel the weight and sadness of the deaths of 60 people? Does the half-assed inconsistent meter not drive you crazy? Does "1879" rhyme with "time"?

>>14210994
Wow, this is just awful.

>>14210581
>>14210875
Kek, reads like a high school kid trying to rap.
>>14211015
But I don't think it deserves to be called the worst. Surely there are plenty of shittier poems.

>>14211047
Take out the line breaks and it’s just :

i do not need the kind of love that is draining i want someone who energizes me.

>>14210994
Kaur isn't as bad as everyone here pretends she is. She bases her style off Ezra Pound but talks about mundane contemporary life issues. It's hardly different than Pounds famous "The apparition of these faces in the crowd:
Petals on a wet, black bough."

>I must now conclude my lay
>By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
>That your central girders would not have given way,
>At least many sensible men do say,
>Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
>At least many sensible men confesses,
>For the stronger we our houses do build,
>The less chance we have of being killed.
absolute kino

>>14211088
Pound also sucks

>>14210581
most things that are called "the worst" actually aren't. like that friday song that everyone called the worst song ever. is it fuck. it's just a teenager singing about things she likes. there are many worse pieces of music, including some by rock and pop megastars

>>14211088
>>14211216
kys

>>14211104
>>Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
>>At least many sensible men confesses,
>>For the stronger we our houses do build,
>>The less chance we have of being killed.
these lines sound like one of hilaire belloc's cautionary tales

>>14211088
Pound's free verse was good because he had a firm command over prosody and choose to transcend it. Kaur is does because she's incapable of anything else similar to how picasso a master of color theory and form drawing misshapen forms is different to a kindergartener doing it

>>14211088
I would snap your neck if you appeared in front of me.

W. T. McGonagall is based and /lit/ incarnate, have some respect for our patron.

>>14212415
rescued the thread from oblivion, well done anon

>>14211274
>>14211344
>>14211314
You are upset because you know I'm right

>>14211251
I don't disagree with your point but that friday song was fucking awful

>>14211104
>my loving wife died last week
>only now can I laugh about it

based.

>>14212423
But you aren't right. There is absolutely nothing of value in an entire book of Kaur poems. You're just being a contrarian because you know how easy it is to hate her on here.

>>14210875
>rhymes Edinburgh with sorrow
I thought it was pronounced "Edinbruh." Am I supposed to say "sorruh" when reading this, or am I supposed to say "Edinborough"?

>>14212708
>"sorruh"
I could imagine a Scotoid norfling say it like this.

>>14210581
>I must now conclude my lay
>By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
>That your central girders would not have given way,
>At least many sensible men do say,
>Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
>At least many sensible men confesses,
>For the stronger we our houses do build,
>The less chance we have of being killed.

This is satirical right ? Its purposely funny there's no way the author wrote that seriously.

>>14212708
The English upper class pronounce it “Edinburough”; I guess he was trying to sound high-falootin’.

>>14212867
He’s totally serious. Either that or he stayed in character his whole career. He once walked from Dundee to Balmoral Palace, which took days if not weeks, and demanded to see the queen in order to read her his poetry. He was turned away at the gates, the poor shit. The house in Edinburgh where he died is now a laundromat, which is somehow fitting; I used to imagine his ghost watching me while I did my washing.

>>14211041
>Does "1879" rhyme with "time"
Uh, yes.

>>14212806
In a Dundee accent “sorrow” would rhyme perfectly with “yo-yo”

>>14210581
>a poem written in english from the 1880 makes the writer the worst poet in history
the standard composition was poetry for a long time. im sure there's plenty that are far worse just obscured by language and time.

>>14212911
Never, ever write poetry.

>>14212928
look at niggers rapping and you'll find anything can be made to rhyme or fitted to any metre

>>14210581
>>14210581
>>14210873
The fact that you’ve sincerely asked “is this a boomer meme” and the fact that you can’t see why this is a bad poem tells me you’re too young to be on this website. Consider Reddit.

You’re doing the equivalent of asking, “Why’s the restoration on the right so bad? The artist at least put some effort into drawing a recognizable face, unlike some modern effortless abstract expressionist painters.”

You just don’t have a poetic sense. I’m sorry but that’s just how it is. You’re either playing dumb to be funny, or you just don’t have it. No answer can give you this sense. It’s OK to cry if you want to. You can still do something like be good at sports, or an instrument, or engineering or whatever you want.

>>14210870
No it didn't to anybody. This place is built on the knowledge that you can use google and google image search If you really feel the need to partecipate in a conversation the subject which you know shit about, redditor.

>>14211088
>>>14210994 #
>Kaur isn't as bad as everyone here pretends she is.
She's worse. Most of people only read fucking prose If anything. The trainwreck which is Kaur can only be grasped once you DO read Ezra Pound.

>>14212986
>You’re doing the equivalent of asking, “Why’s the restoration on the right so bad? The artist at least put some effort into drawing a recognizable face, unlike some modern effortless abstract expressionist painters.”
Which is 100% True btw

>>14213089
>can't tell if trying too hard or taking a dig at abstract expressionist painters

>>14212423
>I disagree with everyone here so I'm right

Any one who thinks Kaur's poetry is shit, explain WHY. Take ever poetry, analyse it and justify your claims. Explain why you're not just bitter that she's popular

>>14213666
Because it's vapid, emotionally dead, shallow and soulless.

>Edinburgh rhymes with sorrow
Do you bong fuckers still read it as Edinburrough or something?

>>14213666
Some aesthetic judgments, like the poor quality of the poetry discussed in this thread, should be self-evident. If you can’t tell the difference between Pound and instagram poetry, or between Pope and the “Tay Bridge Disaster,” you lack something so fundamental that to even talk about poetry with you would be ridiculous.

>>14211088
The example you gave of Pound is called imagism, the purpose of this style is to create a precise image using clear, but beautiful language. Ezra achieves it perfectly, in a sentence he describes a broad scene precisely and clearly.
What does Kaur's poem have? What's the purpose? There's just nothing there, it's the whining of some Poostagrammer, it's shallow, it's nothing.

The Tay Bridge Disaster is the most perfect and magnificent failure in the history of the English tongue.

"Beautiful railway bridge" - the sheer incongruity of this is awe-inspiring. The total lack of poetry in the language, the impossibility of the image it wants to evoke; it's total abandonment of any and all responsiblity to do so

"Alas; I am very sorry to say" - Ninety lives plunged prematurely into death; nine times as many friends' and lovers' lives irreparably ruined; the enormity of the despair, of the grief, of the bitter and impotent fury of a whole generation of one whole town; and Topaz says, with arm-swinging, unconcerned cheer, that he is "very sorry to say"

>>14213666
>thinking our critiques stem from some inner emotional issue like jealousy
That's some Female-tier thinking

>>14213666

Quality is determined at the interface between observer and artwork. Statistically speaking, I posit that a significantly lower number of human beings, exposed to Kaur's work for the first time, will rate it as "not shit" as compared with a control group exposed to Milton.

It's bad but it's actually better than most stuff on crit

>>14213666
She thinks enjambment and the green light from corporate focus groups makes up for actual meaning and pleasant sounding speech.

It may be the worst published poem, but whenever I drink too much I write poems about how much I hate Italians, and those are probably worse.

>>14213666
I used to think we hated her because she's a brown female, and worse, Canadian, but in fact I believe it's the fact that she's become successful off of such (apparently) low-effort schlock. Just like some people look at a Rothko and complain that their kid could have painted it.

>>14214940
Kek, post one

>>14211088
KEK 10/10 bait

>>14211251
Friday is indistinguishable from Halo which apparently people like

>>14210869
>rhymes words like town and down

Maybe cause he's Scottish you imbecile

>>14212911
Please write some poetry.

>>14210849
t. midwit

>>14210849
>It's pretty fucking bad, but not the worst by virtue of being unintentionally hilarious.

>>14212904
>I used to imagine his ghost watching me while I did my washing.

You're a faggot.

>>14210581
He's gaelic and not a low land scot so he gets extra panned by people for that.

>>14216550
Granted but does nobody else do this? Imagine writers are watching you in your daily routine, and trying to explain things like the internet and memes to them?

>>14210581
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>>14216646
I do this, but it’s twisted versions of people I know. I do it with my dead grandparents, as well, and try to get them to not call me names for listening to non-classical music.