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"Oh my favourite philosopher? He is this really small and obscure German guy. His name is Max Stirner. He is for a selected few high iq plebs such as myself"

>> No.14202801

You forgot "books for this feel" to make it even remotely /lit/ related you stupid nigger.

>> No.14202809

>>14202788
Seething. Haha sorry you got spooked

>> No.14202824
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14202824

>tfw saved over 100 stirner memes and I haven't read a single word of his gay ass book
heh, welcome to my world

>> No.14202832

>>14202788
his soul is cute and so is he

>> No.14202889

>>14202824
you shouldn't bother at this point, you already know the highlights from osmosis, it would be a disappointing experience

>> No.14202931

The great thing about Stirner and his message is that he basically loses nothing when you don't read him.
The shadow of the individual EGO looms so mighty and monolithical above absolutely everything and everyone that everyone starts shitting itself in fear because all the spooks might get exposed.
Even the slightest Stirner shitpost sends quivers through all the christ larpers, commies and other bootlickers who post here.

>> No.14202946

>>14202931
>he basically loses nothing when you don't read him
Well he's dead. But that aside, I think Stirmer did see personal benefit in more people around him being voluntary egoists/reading his book.

>> No.14202957

>>14202788
Der Einzige und Sein Eigentum is pretty dope though and his analysis of post revolutionary bourgeoisie is spot on.

>> No.14202958

>>14202931
Good post.

>> No.14202970
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>>14202824
Me too

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>>14202788
Yes.

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>>14202824
same...

>> No.14203893

>>14202931
Stirner is a commie you fucking Pseud Retard. Read the last half of the book

>> No.14204126

>>14203893
>community of egoists
>commie
fucking murder yourself my property.

>> No.14204182

>>14204126
Key word “Community” retard
You have not read the ego book and it’s painfully obvious. He goes in enough detail in his opposition to capitalism in favor of the union. Egoist communism is his philosophy.

>> No.14204272

>>14204126
>>14203893
“Commie” isn’t really what Marxist-Leninism was doing. As I’m sure you’ve heard before.
We weren’t kidding.

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>>14204182
Shut up fag.

>> No.14204466

>>14203893
Stirner was a communist, but his ideology isn't exclusive to communists

>> No.14204473

How to doodle like Engels? I want to be able to produce drawings like these.

>> No.14204474

>>14204466
“His ideology” you’re already retarded

>> No.14204492
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14204492

was Stirner a manlet? and if yes, does that mean i can just "into the trash it goes" with him?

>> No.14204551

>>14204492
He had two wives

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>>14204551
at the same time?

*ps, i wunt u tu knuw my heart still hurts buttercunt

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14204744

The mere existence of stiner posters makes commies seeth so they are ok.

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>>14204744
They make everybody seethe, but primarily Christians

>> No.14204770

>>14202824
My stirner subfolder has only like 10 jpgs. Feels bad being un/lit/

>> No.14204822
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>>14204770
What matters is not the diversity of Stirner pics but rather how you use them.
The original Engels doodle followed by "lol spooks" is often times the best answer.

>> No.14204861

Why has the culture around Stirner evolved around the usage of Engel's (a detractor of him) sketches of him? Isn't this idealized Stirner a spook?

>> No.14204879

>>14204861
No? It's a sketch. Treat it as such and you're fine. It's not like you're going to open the ego and its own and find a list of things that are spooks. That's the real meme conception of Stirner.

>> No.14204891
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>>14204861
It’s all there is of him, and Engels liked him at first, but was always malleable to his friend’s ideas. Marx wasn’t always right

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Anybody know of any more artistic portrayal of Stirner's philosophy, even if it's just posts by anonymous? I've read some of his book, but well, it's philosophy, at most there are phrases like "creative nothing" in there

>> No.14205059

>>14204891
Look at Stirner, look at him, the peaceful enemy of
all constraint.
For the moment, he is still drinking beer, soon he
will be drinking blood as though it were water.
When others cry savagely "down with the kings"
Stirner immediately supplements "down with the
laws also."
Stirner full of dignity proclaims; you bend your will
power and you dare to call yourselves free.
You become accustomed to slavery
Down with dogmatism, down with law."

>> No.14205420

>>14204933
>more artistic portrayal of Stirner's philosophy
I'd like to know this as well.
There are probably man egoistical characters and even protagonists but one where it was actual meaning I do not know of.

>> No.14205450

Only selfish pricks like Stirner. His philosophy only encourages egotistical thinking

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>>14205450
If you don't think your life is worth more than somebody else's, sign your donor card and kill yourself

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>>14204466
checked

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>>14202788
WE WANTED STIRNER ALIVE! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO KILL HIM?!

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>>14205450
>egotistical

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14205832

Stirnerfags are just Cryptonietzscheans who are too afraid to say they like Nietzsche, either because of a fear of mockery and shitposts or because some people in the thread might have actually read Nietzsche and could out them for their pseudism.

>> No.14206076

>>14205832
where stirner and nietzsche overlap Stirner goes deeper than nietzsche ever could with his analysis.

>> No.14206420

>>14204474
No one is free from ideology, he obviously held political beliefs

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14206750

ITT:
>i haven't read Stirner
>>14202824
>>14202889
>>14202970
>>14203857
>>14204861
>>14205832

>i have misread Stirner
>>14203893
>>14204182
>>14204466
>>14206420

>> No.14206757

>>14202788
>favourite
Is this one of those spooks again?

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14206770

All things are nothing to me

>> No.14206777

>>14206770
You wanna know what really surprised me about Saint Max?
He had BLOND HAIR and BLUE EYES

>> No.14206783

Did Stirner realise that in his formulations he was unawares hypostasizing the liberal enlightenment conceptualization of the sovereign individual and that in a century he would be completely btfo by mimetic theory?

>> No.14206908

>>14205450
Read his biography you are clearly wrong, only brainlets would read him and think that
>>14206750
None of those responders misinterpreted him you fucking Pseud.

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14206915

My bad, I forgot this one >>14206908

ITT
i have misread Stirner
>>14203893
>>14204182
>>14204466
>>14206420
>>14206908

>> No.14206937

>>14206915
Nothing is misread you literal fucking nigger. He spends 50 pages (1/4 of the book) vehemently attacking capitalism and guilds in favor of a communitarian economy. Your conception of Stirner must obviously from watching YouTube

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>>14204473
Loomis

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>>14205450

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>>14206937
I know no "commandment of the reply", I am only replying to you, my little misreading property, for my own self enjoyment.

>>14203893
>Stirner is a commie
>>14204182
>He goes in enough detail in his opposition to capitalism in favor of the union. Egoist communism is his philosophy.
>>14204466
Stirner was a communist, but his ideology [...]

Now, I am replying to you, but not responding to you, I will let Max do the talking.

>But the individual is unique, not a member of the party. He unites freely, and separates freely again. p.196

>As party it is already a born society, a dead union, an idea that has become fixed. p.197

>What matters the party to me? I shall find enough anyhow who unite with me without swearing allegiance to my flag. p.197

>Are the own or unique perchance a party? How could they be own if they were such as belonged to a party? Or is one to hold with no party? In the very act of joining them and entering their circle one forms a union with them that lasts as long as party and I pursue one and the same goal. But today I still share the party's tendency, as by tomorrow I can do so no longer and I become "untrue" to it. The party has nothing binding (obligatory) for me, and I do not have respect for it; if it no longer pleases me, I become its foe. p.198

>Communism seeks to check its course, spreading the belief that the human is not worth so much discomfort, and, with sensible arrangements, could be gained without the great expense of time and powers which has hitherto seemed requisite. But for whom is time to be gained? For what does man require more time than is necessary to refresh his wearied powers of labor? Here Communism is silent. For what? To take comfort in himself as the unique, after he has done his part as man! p.220

>Only in the union can you assert yourself as unique, because the union does not possess you, but you possess it or make it of use to you. p.251

>Now, as my object is not the overthrow of an established order but my elevation above it, my purpose and deed are not a political or social but (as directed toward myself and my ownness alone) an egoistic purpose and deed. p.254

>My intercourse with the world, what does it aim at? I want to have the enjoyment of it, therefore it must be my property, and therefore I want to win it. I do not want the liberty of men, nor their equality; I want only my power over them, I want to make them my property, material for enjoyment. And, if I do not succeed in that, well, then I call even the power over life and death. p.255

If you still think he's a "Communist", in any non-head canon sense of the word, then anon, neither me nor Max have anything left to say to you.

>> No.14207045

>>14202824
utterly based

>> No.14207057

>>14207024
Not only are these irrelevant but some of them are misleading, for example he states right after you can take up with a party as long as it serves you. Also
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dr-bones-the-stirner-wasn-t-a-capitalist-you-fucking-idiot-cheat-sheet
You are a fucking Pseud who hasn’t read Stirner. The communism he talks about is old utopian communism of people like hess and Proudhon, Proudhon for one was hardly a communist. Stirner is his own version of communism. You are a massive brainlet

>> No.14207065

>>14206946
Oh fuck im gonna coom

>> No.14207122

>>14207057
In other words, Stirner is not "a communist" but "his own version of communism", let's say Max Stirner's communism, or "Egoist communism", or the "communism of the Unique", and so on. Everything must be labeled, categorized, systematized, -fixed-. In your desperate attempt to understand Stirner, you have -killed- Stirner, he is not "Stirner" anymore but the "Egoist Communist".

>To be a “human”, “worker”, “mother”, “student”, or “citizen” interferes with being myself, and so I prefer not to. Perhaps in the morning I am this, in the afternoon I am that, and in the evening, I am not I at all. I am you or we or a completely other form of belonging, but that is up to me and my accomplices to figure out.

>> No.14207166

Are the drawings of Stirner used because there aren't photographs of him?

>> No.14207183

>>14207166
yes. i think all interpretations are based off the one single line drawing?

>> No.14207190

>>14207122
Real Pseud response. I am done with you negroid

>> No.14207374

>>14202824
BASED