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14169428 No.14169428 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't screenplays and screenwriters studied like playwrights?

>> No.14169434

because movies dumb and bad and theater smart and good
also they are, check out tools of screenwriting by howard and mobley

>> No.14169623

>>14169428
They are. There just isn't anywhere near as much history to do with them, so they won't take up anywhere near as much curriculum as literature will.

>> No.14169637

>>14169428
Shakespeare wasn’t really studied in his time either and the plays were notoriously written for business and entertainment of the time. It wasn’t until he was later revisited that the critical acclaim really took off and spread.

>> No.14169788

>>14169428
It's kind of dry to read a film script because it's so barebones and technical. When I read Beckett or O'Neill or Shaw on the page, because theatre is a dialogue driven medium, it can keep my attention. As an example, I'd recommend looking up the screenplay and the original play of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. Reading the film script and reading the play are very different experiences.

>> No.14169823

Woody Allen is the worst person to study.

He churns out a bunch of movies and the law of averages just means some of them happen to be good. Most are awful.

>> No.14169839

>>14169823
He made some amazing films that are pretty much canonized in the history of American filmmaking though. Annie Hall, Manhattan, Midnight in Paris, Hannah And Her Sisters, Love and Death, and a few others. Some are meh and some are garbage.

>> No.14169898

>>14169839
Annie Hall is the only one in cannon. Manhattan is creepy as fuck to watch now. Midnight in Paris is already kind of forgotten. The rest are lower level.

>> No.14169967

>>14169428
because really good movies usually don't have scripts that stand on their own artistically. there are far more very good scripts that were made into meh movies than there are great movies with mindblowing scripts. it's a collaborative medium and success is frequently accidental.

>> No.14169990

>>14169839
>Manhattan

The film where 42 year old Isaac Davis is dating a 17 year old?

>> No.14169999

Because film is creole for rejects. Failed photographers. Failed composers. Failed writers.

>> No.14170018

>>14169898
>Manhattan is creepy as fuck to watch now.
Why do you think so? I thought the chiaro-escuro visuals were comfy as fuck
>inb4 his teenage girlfriend. Kek

>> No.14170028

Because film is still very new. Give it another century

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>>14169990
>There must be no issues of morality in movies, only happy people and happy endings!

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>>14170097
>Woody Allen dating a fucking 17 year old when he's 42 in a movie is just artistic expression and not strange considering his own daughter accuses him of raping her as a child!

Fuck off pedo apologist.