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14145262 No.14145262[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>He thinks he has free will
You're a slave to your biological needs, not one choice in your life was made by you

>> No.14145269

>>14145262
Tell me, what biological need propelled me to post here.

>> No.14145272

>>14145262
What books, if any, are you destined to read?

>> No.14145291

>>14145262
So?

>> No.14145296

>>14145269
Socialising

>>14145272
Shut up whore

>> No.14145303

>>14145269
Chemical reaction in your brain to establish yourself as an entity. Why does the lion roar?

>> No.14145315

>>14145303
chemicals are the physical correlates of thought, they don't "cause" them

>> No.14145318

>>14145303
am I not profoundly indifferent to any sort of biological impulse?

Can't I, completely out of spite, go off into the woods and starve myself to death?

>> No.14145320
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14145320

Why does the lion purr?

>> No.14145331

>>14145320
I see. You like that part of it the best :3 Thank you for your hint.

>> No.14145336

>>14145303
>Why does the lion roar?
Lions roar to tell other lions where they are, to show how big they are and to warn lions from other prides to keep away from their home territory.

>> No.14145340

>>14145262
Arent my needs part of me, though?

>> No.14145343

>>14145318
>am I not profoundly indifferent to any sort of biological impulse?
No
>Can't I, completely out of spite, go off into the woods and starve myself to death?
No

>> No.14145354

>>14145340
No, there is nothing but your needs

>> No.14145384
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14145384

>>14145262
>confusing causal determinism with biological determinism

Trying to prove causal determinism results in an antinomy. Trying to prove biological determinism results in you outing yourself as a retard

>> No.14145390

>>14145262
Keep your dirty materialist biology out of this.
Truly there is no "You" who could make a choice or not. Free will is all there is, but it can only be free if no one owns it.

>> No.14145396

>>14145354
So I am my needs, therefore, I choose, therefore free will exists. Checkmate, atheists.

>> No.14145400

>>14145384
>He says, as he fulfills his social needs

>> No.14145403

>>14145318
Sure, you could starve yourself, but you won't. It's only an illusion of choice. Your irrational need to survive outweighs your spite.

>> No.14145408

To have a will at all means that you are not free. You can be powerful, however.

>> No.14145412

>>14145400
Non-sequitur

>> No.14145419

>>14145403
You are confusing free will with being an omnipotent god. Never go full retard.

>> No.14145433

>>14145412
Speak english, queer

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14145436

>>14145400
Wouldn't the way I fulfill that particular need involve some choice? I am writing this but I could be responding to any other post. How do you account for that?

>>14145403
tell that to pic related

>> No.14145475

>>14145433
Make me, faggot.

>> No.14145499

>>14145262
I was going to become a priest but fell to my biological need for heroin abuse and sex with the fattest on earth

>> No.14145528

>>14145436
>Wouldn't the way I fulfill that particular need involve some choice?
No, and so what anyway. If you take a shit in the garden or in the toilet it's still taking a shit.

>> No.14145531

>>14145262
And yet thinking that I'm free affects my action. Your move Op.

>> No.14145543

>>14145531
>And yet thinking that I'm free affects my action.
No it doesn't.

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fag

>> No.14145624

>>14145262
Imagine being a reductionist. Good luck describing human behaviour at a physical level. Our best psychological theories support free will.

>> No.14145712

>>14145624
>theories
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.14145728

>>14145262
>implying I am not my biology
All of my choices were made by me.

>> No.14145739

>>14145403
So do Lithuanians hold a monopoly on free will then?

>> No.14145751

>>14145728
Then why did you choose to be an ugly, sexless outcast?

>> No.14145763

>>14145751
We don't choose to be born, nor do we choose our attributes, but we choose what we do.

>> No.14145778

>>14145751
Free will doesn't mean you have the absolute power to bend physical reality to your liking. It means to have the liberty of choice regarding what you have and what's withun your means and reach.

>> No.14145788

>>14145262
Exactly. These hands wringing your neck moved on their own volition. Can't really blame me since I have no free will.

>> No.14145790

>>14145763
>We don't choose to be born, nor do we choose our attributes, but we choose what we do.
I don't believe you

>> No.14145794

>>14145412
wrong fallacy, buddy

>> No.14145796

>>14145788
That's true actually

>> No.14145800

>>14145790
Which part?

>> No.14145811

>>14145800
The last one

>> No.14145828

>>14145262
What about the many times I chose NOT to have sex?

>> No.14145849

>>14145811
>>14145778