/lit/ - Literature

>>14137587
Englishmen are decadent perverts.

>>14137587
continental europeans have been shitting on englishmen for being utilitarians for centuries now. get with the program

>>14137587
Neech wrote so much muh action shit but spent his life behind a desk and then in a hospital. Bruh..

>>14137587
He meant that Englishmen are ubermenschen.

>>14137587
>Everyone is miserable except the English
I gotta say, feels good to be English

>>14137655
Anglos are some of the most miserable people on earth

>>14137659
Not this Anglo :)

>>14137655
The quote actually implies the opposite.

>>14137613
What books have you written??

>>14137613
>Said the NEET on /lit/

>>14137613
Action is moral, not physical. It's annoying to me when people accuse competent or otherwise renowned authors of obvious hypocrisies, like the preceding decades of academic attention wouldn't have weeded them out. Even as a joke it's annoying.

>he human being who has become free -- and how much more the spirit who has become free -- spits on the contemptible type of well-being dreamed of by shopkeepers, Christians, cows, females, Englishmen, and other democrats.
based and, dare i say it, redpilled?

>>14137587
The English are subhuman.

>>14137587
Utilitarianism

>>14138265
this, it was a generalisation of a philosophical tradition, not a particular citizen of a particular country

>>14137613
thats kind of true, but i took the footpath beside his house in sils once, and it was basically a vertical ascent up a cliff for 3 hours

>>14137659
reverse psychology is a wonderful thing

>>14137587
means englishmen are retards

>>14137613
that's the point

>>14137655
it means englishmen are so miserable that happiness is #goals for them

>all these non-engles seething in english

Friedrich Nietzsche is perhaps the greatest philosopher the world has known. He is also great in another dimension which many philosophers are simply unaware of: he is a born mystic.

His philosophy is not only of the mind, but is rooted deep in the heart, and some roots reach even to his very being. The only thing unfortunate about him is that he was born in the West; hence, he could never come across any mystery school. He contemplated deeply, but he was absolutely unaware about meditation. His thoughts sometimes have the depth of a meditator, sometimes the flight of a Gautam Buddha; but these things seem to have happened spontaneously to him.

He knew nothing about the ways of enlightenment, about the path that reaches to one's own being. This created a tremendous turmoil in his being. His dreams go as high as the stars, but his life remained very ordinary. It does not have the aura that meditation creates. His thoughts are not his blood, his bones, his marrow. They are beautiful, immensely beautiful, but something is missing. What is missing is life itself. They are dead words, they don't breathe, there is no heartbeat.

But I have chosen to speak on him for a special reason: he is the only philosopher, from East or West, who has at least thought of the heights of human consciousness. He may not have experienced them; he certainly has not experienced them. He also thought of becoming a man again: that idea, of descending from your heights into the marketplace, descending from the stars to the earth, has never happened to anybody else.

He has something of Gautam Buddha, perhaps unconsciously carried over from his past lives, and he has something of the Zorba; both are incomplete. But he is the only proof that Buddha and Zorba can meet; that those who have reached to the highest peaks need not remain there.

In fact, they should not remain there. They owe something to humanity; they owe something to the earth. They have been born amongst human beings, they have lived in the same darkness and in the same misery. And now that they have seen the light, it becomes obligatory that they should come back to wake up those who are fast asleep, to bring the good news - that darkness is not all, that unconsciousness is our choice.

If we choose to be conscious, all unconsciousness and all darkness can disappear. It is our choice that we are living in the dark valleys. If we decide to live on the sunlit peaks, nobody can prevent us because that is also our potential.

But the people who have reached to the sunlit peaks completely forget about the world they are coming from. Gautam Buddha never descended. Mahavira never descended. Even if they have made efforts for humanity to wake up, they have shouted from their sunlit peaks

https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/zarathustra-zorba-the-buddha-philosophers-90bce152-eae?p=156f91bd27dbe16698c2adf2bf32ee3f

>>14137587
>“Man does not strive for happiness; only the Englishman does that.”
It means that Utilitarism is stupid. "Happyness" and "suffering" aren't categories which you can will for.
"I want Happyness" is pretty much a non sentence.

Only the most surface level stupid people can come up with something like Utilitarism as a normative system. AKA the Englishmen

>>14137613
writing is an action

>>14137613
he went for long walks in the mountains

It's disparaging the Declaration of Independence, which was effectively written by Englishmen. The idea that "happiness," was used to articulate the foundations of a noble republic surely seemed downright insipid.

>(c) We require an unconditional union with Russia, together with a mutual plan of action which shall not permit any English schemata to obtain the mastery in Russia. No American future!

>-Genealogy of Morals

>>14138463
>mfw
t. Russian

>>14137587
Nietzsche is a German philosopher, and as such he subscribes to a long romantic tradition that considers that what great men really steive for are lofty ideals. The English philosophers on the other hand are coldblooded realists, who expose the fact that the true motive of human action is hedonistic egoism. It seems that for all his pretenses to make a mockery out of metaphysics, deep down Nietzsche still doesn't want to believe that man is nothing more than an animal.

>>14137587
Nietzsche is a German philosopher, and as such he subscribes to a long romantic tradition that considers that what great men really steive for are lofty ideals. The English philosophers on the other hand are coldblooded realists, who expose the fact that the true motive of human action is hedonistic egoism. It seems that for all his pretenses to make a mockery out of metaphysics, deep down Nietzsche still doesn't want to believe that man is nothing more than an animal.

>>14138463
I hate Americans so much, it's actually unreal.

>>14137613
The continental cope in the replies to this is beautiful

>>14137772
No, he was a mentally impaired fantasist who lost all understanding of our lot in this universe.

>>14138385

Nietzsche was like a babby, remaining steeped in delusion. Cioran was the true blackpilled disillusionist mystic.

>>14137587
Anglos have an unhealthy fixation on “happiness,” a condition they neither understand nor actually know how to replicate.

>>14137587
That germs are soulless

>>14137587
continentals are mad that they're poor and can't keep away from the bottle or keep their dick in their pants for long enough to get their lives together.

>>14138891
>Cioran
cringe
imagine basing your whole philosophy on suicide and nihilism but not committing suicide. he was a fucking hypocrite pussy.
mäinlander was truly based and blackpilled

>>14137587
There is nothing in the soul of the Englishman except for small-minded greed, materialism and fixation in comfort. They're the ultimate bug men.

>>14138367
ah yes. the btfo and the /threaded

>>14139439
>Englishman
>accusing others of overdrinking
Try visiting southern Europe next Summer, come say hi to your countrymen.

>>14139235
SEETHE harder Angloid

>>14137613
He was ashamed from being accused of being a chronic masturbator in Bayreuth.

>>14139984
Source

>>14140000
"Eiser replied to this that there was, alas, a serious possibility that poor young Nietzsche was going blind.
At this point Wagner himself wrote to the doctor - and now it needs to be remembered that in the nineteenth century it was generally believed by otherwise serious and intelligent people that masturbation put young males in danger of going blind. Little boys were taught this in all sincerity by anxious parents, and it was widely accepted as a fact. Wagner wrote to the doctor: 'In assessing Nietzsche's condition I have long been reminded of identical or very similar experiences with young men of great intellectual ability. Seeing them laid low by similar symptoms, I discovered all too certainly that these were the effects of masturbation. Ever since I observed Nietzsche closely, guided by such experiences, all his traits of temperament and characteristic habits have transformed my fear into a conviction.'
He then urged the doctor to do all he could to get Nietzsche to stop the practice, with the characteristically Wagnerian observation: 'The friendly doctor undoubtedly possesses an authority denied to the doctoring friend.'
...
Both the existence and the contents of this correspondence were leaked soon after it occurred."

Magee, Bryan. The Tristan Chord. 335-336

>>14138512
Hate and love are two sides of the same coin. Your obsession is flattering.

>>14138891
cringe

>>14139439
>continentals are mad that they're poor and can't keep away from the bottle or keep their dick in their pants for long enough to get their lives together

quit projecting your lower class brits

>>14138367
Nice Pepe, mind if I save it?

>>14137613
Based

>>14137587
Nietzsche is so fucking based.

>>14137613
>went to church and studied the Bible as a teenager
>enlisted in the Prussian artillery and was regarded as a great horse rider until he had a migraine-induced accident
>was a nurse at a hospital on the front lines during the Franco-Prussian war
>discovered Schopenhauer and then hit the philosophy books hardcore
>became a professor at 24
>taught seminars at various major schools
>became close to Wagner and his wife and wrote publicly in Wagner's defense
>traveled and roomed with various people throughout his life
>wrote a fucking ton of literature all while suffering from migraines almost daily
What the fuck else do you expect him to have done in 20th century Germany with his health? He did a whole lot.

>>14140829
19th century*

>>14137587
FUCK ANGLO PHILOSOPHERS
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