/lit/ - Literature

The extended biblical canon

>>14100275
my autobiography

>>14100275
Pensées

Feuerbach's essence of Christianity of course

>>14100275
as much as I hate to say it, not a one

>>14100290
pensees? more like peanus weanus ahah :)

>>14100290
Based

>>14100293
Super lame

Living as an atheist btfo’s atheism

>>14100275
How many fucking threads do you need? Lit is basically christianity general now. Go read your bible there is no book that BTFO atheism. This shitposting is beyond fun or annoying. Only teens and children find these topics worlthy of their time.

>>14100275
Nagardjuna BTFOs both atheism and theism at the same time

>>14100345
This. Real life BTFOs atheism. The majority of outspoken atheists are obese/prematurely balding fedoras who obliterate their testosterone levels by drinking New England IPAs.

>>14100275
Spinoza's ethics

>>14100275
technically speaking? Anarchist cookbook

FEDORAS RISE UP!

>>14100275
What is the defeated 1000-year-old argument?

>>14100602
>muh omnipotence paradox
>muh problem of evil

GOD IS KANG OF ALL

All religions were refuted by Jean Meslier 300 years ago. Why must you keep up this charade?

>>14100606
>Reddit doesn't believe in God therefore God exists
The Contrarian Paradox

>>14100746
repent, zoomer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he95Y0WkGQU

>>14100606
>muh problem of evil
You better not be referring to "muh freewill" defense

>>14100422
You guys either don't meet any people, or live in burgerland. Most young people in Europe that aren't shitskins don't give two fucks about religion.

>>14100275
Their own logic btfos them because its impossible to prove that God doesn't exist and therefore their beliefs require faith
Agnosticism is a true empirical red pill

>>14100770
Of course not.

>>14100275
most metaphysical or religious texts

>>14100275
>What books BTFO atheism?
The Summa.

>>14100602
>What is the defeated 1000-year-old argument?

>>14100788
Alright, care on sir.

>>14100788
Alright, carry on sir

>>14100788
what would be the point in being a christian then if your place in heaven or hell is predetermined?

>>14100823
>your place in heaven or hell is predetermined?
It's not, stop listening to prots

>>14100823
Calvinism is absolutely retarded. Disregard that poster.

>>14100776
Do you describe yourself as agnostic about, say, the existence of the Sun? Or does the overwhelming evidence in a particular direction cause you to say that you "know" the Sun exists?

>>14100790
Aquinas, creator of the
>take a thing X that exists
>prove X exists
>"We call X, God"
argument. If this is the cream of the crop "proof" that BTFOs atheists, why should I invest time in reading that whole autistic stack of books?

>>14100834
>>14100835
I know it's Calvinist doctrine not general christian doctrine. But its a genuine question

>>14100834
"God loves all men and all creatures, inasmuch as He wishes them all some good; but He does not wish every good to them all. So far, therefore, as He does not wish this particular good—namely, eternal life—He is said to hate or reprobated them."
t. Aquinas

Catholics are literally required to believe that those going to Heaven are predestined. The rest are not predestined and are going to hell.

>>14100851
Have you heard of Newcomb's problem? It's similar to the rationale for one-boxing. You can't change whether you're going to heaven or hell, but God didn't choose arbitrarily: he knows whether you'll be a sinner or saint. So if you sin on purpose to game the system, you're discovering for yourself that you've been destined for hell all along and you're proving God's decision correct.
I don't actually know the details of Calvinist doctrine, but I'd come to believe in predestination myself near the end of my Christian days and that was basically my reasoning.

>>14100772
not an argument

>>14100772
>Most young people in Europe that aren't shitskins don't give two fucks about religion.
It's almost like there's a correlation...?

>>14100848
There is no strong evidence for or against the existence of God without claiming to know God's nature, which is impossible

>>14100823
Why would you not be a Christian? It’s as if you think we should default to doing the worst thing because our future is predetermined.

>>14100802
er yeah that second statement is bollocks
actually so is every statement that follows it

>>14100275
Aquinas. The only cope against it is that it proves a Deist God, not religion based one.

>>14100275
The apostle Paul's epistle to the Romans chapter 1.

>>14100946
I would say it's meaningless to hold *any* position on a proposition, be it believe/disbelieve/agnostic, if you can't even articulate what the proposition is.

>>14101011
>religion based God
aka, what any neurotypical person means when they say "God". Shrinking the concept of God to something provable is not proving the existence of the consensus understanding of God, which is what atheists disbelieve.

>>14100275
My diary desu

>>14100746
>reddit doesn’t believe in God therefore God exists
Unironically yeah.

>>14100422
Are there any beers that dont hurt test levels? I’m a brewer and love making and drinking beer but i hate basedPAs. For me, it’s stouts and porters, with a nice doughy pilsner here and there.

>>14101107
I don't think anything is worse than New England IPAs. Those things ooze estrogen.

>>14100275
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatheism

>>14100802
>God is not able to violate the laws of logic
God as the Holy Trinity already violates the laws of logic

>>14100422
Literally kekd

>>14101145
You mean the laws that God creates?

>>14101119
Someone who likes those beers fuck your crush? You good?

Big D

>>14101145
>Christianity is the only religion

>>14100834
Both Catholics and Orthodox have homosexual clergy and female clergy.

>>14101152
No, any male who drinks NE IPAs is most likely impotent.

>>14101172
You're gay for saving that pic and you're even gayer for caring about asinine shit.

>>14101190
>t. NE IPA-drinking impotent. balding male

I literally just Googled in my response to you.

>>14101148
If logic is used to mean the lawd that God creates then there would be no logical contradiction in >>14100802
>>14101160
It's the main religion /lit/ discusses in these threads, but I don't think there's any major religion where God is suppressed by logic.

>>14101202
I don't even know what that is but you sound like a dork. Kys for caring about other men so much

>>14101208
Going to the brewery tonight for the newest hazy NE IPA?

>>14101214
>Drinking any alcohol at all
>Indulging in any mind altering substance, period
Try again nerd. I can sense your pasty ass seething through the screen

>>14101214
what are you even babbling about?
IPA is beer. do you not like beer?

>>14100275
I think the the only way for the Christians here to revert to their former, adolescent atheism is if Reddit were to suddenly convert into the strongest bastions of modern theism. Let's make it happen boys.

On a serious note, why not just believe in a soul and an afterlife without stepping as far as claims on a God? That way, you can be spiritual regardless of whether a supreme deity exists. No point worrying about things which are in all likelihood outside of your comprehension in the first place.

>>14101227
I love beer. NE IPAs are basically mimosas masquerading as beer. West Coast IPAs are infinitely better.

>>14101239
>On a serious note, why not just believe in a soul and an afterlife without stepping as far as claims on a God? That way, you can be spiritual regardless of whether a supreme deity exists.
>t. Satan

>>14101167
>Gay Orthodox clergy
Most are married.

>>14100834
you think that meme still holds up with the current ""pope""

>>14100936
>actively going out of your way deactivating threat recognition
>i guess alien invasion isnt bad afterall
XENOPHOBES BTFO
BTFO!

I don't understand why most atheists are secularists, why do we have to respect religitards? We won the culture war, we might as well finish them now before they get stronger again.

>>14101281
:P

>>14100275
No books BTFO atheism. What BTFOs atheism is life itself.

>>14101558
I don't think atheism is a good or useful belief, merely true. And I don't think theists are the only or most relevant type of "religitard" these days, so specifically spreading atheism seems pointless at best.

>>14101611
Fair enough, I still think it would be a good idea to gass them

>>14100776
Except it is possible.

>>14100802
>God is not able to violate the laws of logic
I guess miracles don't exist then.

>>14100746
This is legitimately one of the greatest pieces of evidence for the existence of a personal* god.
*a lot of r*dditors also believe in some new agey cosmic mysticism that basically amounts to 'I am so le quirky and superstitious even though I am an atheist'

>>14100772
>that aren't shitskins
So like 10% of Europeans?

>>14101145
No, it doesn't. Idiot.
Christ is Logos. You're applying another system's definition of logic to such system.

>>14102306
Exactly. It means God has decided what's "logical" and to suggest that he couldn't do do something because it would be illogical is absurd.

>>14100275

>>14100290
Dawkins btfo of it already.
>>14100293
Stirner btfo of him
>>14100606
>Muh god is evil AAAND all loving. Wut of it?
>>14101159
Dianetics?
>>14101605
Nah.

>>14101756
Same goes for you, faggot.

>>14103732
Nice strawman you made there m8 as if the passionate defenders of atheism and the non-religious normies were the same person

I must concede however that the Christian memes are getting better lately, that one was almost funny

>>14103722
>Nah.
cope and dilate.

>>14103722
Dawkins! Yes let's take advice from a biologist who clearly writes with blind vitriol for 400 pages

>>14103831
He chopped penises to pieces

>>14103849
You are aware that even Dawkins himself has admitted how retarded his book 'God Delusion' is, right? He's on the record saying how he fundamentally misunderstood what faith is in an interview with the author of 'Why Dawkins is a fucking faggot and has embarrassed all aetheists in the field of science' by Mcgrath. Dawkins has this notion of God being grounded in biology and physics when God is entirely metaphysical. Anyone coming to Dawkins for philosophical or thelogical wisdom is already lost.

>>14103244
The problem is that God working by His own logic is indistinguishable from being genuinely illogical. A Jew could equally explain that his own concept of God only appears false because God works on his own logic. There is no way to tell which theology is correct.

>>14100275
Wait how is that image not about Christians? It’s exactly what they do

>>14103893
--> >>14103849
This is the book (audio book w/e) I know. Never read your memeisis book. Don't care what a biologist has to say on the subject of philosophy/theology. I just know he refuted The Penisés easily.

Go ahead and prove god to me

>>14103930
Now you understand

>>14100275
Critique of pure reason. Unironically

The only reason all these teens are hating on atheism is because being religious is now edgy, and teens on 4chan must be contrarian. Cant you stupid fucks just grow up?

>>14100393
Where do I start with Nagarjuna?

>>14103982
>Cant you stupid fucks just grow up?

They do but you must realise this is already new generation of channers. Most litters are below 25 and half of them are in their teens.

>>14100293

>>14100422
Religious people are empirically fatter
https://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2011/03/religious-young-adults-obese.html
and have lower testosterone
https://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/health/men-with-high-testosterone-levels-could-be-less-religious-15264113
than the non religious. Try again, loser.

>>14101107
no

>>14103722
kys tranny

>>14103952
No proofs of God are going to convince you of anything, Butterfly. You don't want to believe in God due to your fallen nature. Everyone knows God exists and that they deny it is not a problem of evidence; it's a problem of conscience.

can't honestly imagine a better way of turning people against god than using religion as a trolling instrument

>>14104468
3D chess. The religiousfags are actually atheistfags falseflagging

>>14104428
That’s all it ever is. There is no proof, just a thinning vapor of cloud to support you till you fall through it. Faith. Have faith, you just gotta believe.
The leap of faith over a cliff, and somehow I’m the fallen one.

>>14100823
You are saved because you a predestined to become a repentant, converted Christian-- because God in his infinite mercy regenerates you, giving you a heart of flesh. There is no way to God except through Christ. God calls his elect to him through Christ.

>>14105286
>There is no proof
Yes there is, no need faith.

>>14105928
Bonus: Godel proof.

>>14100275
Irrational Atheist by Vox Day

>>14100275
Why do contrarians on the internet pretend Christians slay pussy or something
Most of them are pretty dorky and just date other Christian girls
90% of shaggers don't give one fuck about the bible

>>14100275
Frank Turek - I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist

>>14105928
>>14105957
TL;DR: Existence exists. God doesn't.

>>14106004
Atheists, as in the group of people who make that a core part of their identity, are dorky nerds. Normies and Chads though degenerates will usually profess some belief in a "higher power" or some other vague shit they picked up from their parents, in other words, they don't care enough to consciously become atheistic.

>>14106162
God and Existence are One and the Same.

>>14106162
>>14106226
Ex nihilo nihil fit

Daily reminder it has been empirically proven religiosity stifles scientific innovation.

https://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Religion%20December%201g_snd.pdf
http://www.nber.org/papers/w21052.pdf

Daily reminder the overwhelming majority of leading scientists are atheists

https://www.nature.com/articles/28478
https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1936-6434-6-33

Daily reminder most philosophers are atheists

https://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl

Daily reminder religious people are less intelligent according to dozens of studies.

http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/The_Relation_Between_Intelligence_and_Religiosity__A_Meta-Analysis_and_Some_Proposed_Explanations.pdf

Daily reminder religious people are less educated

https://www.economist.com/news/international/21623712-how-education-makes-people-less-religiousand-less-superstitious-too-falling-away

Religious people are literally a lesser breed of human

>>14106162
>Existence exists
[citation needed]

>>14103722
You need to read more

>>14106253
Wow, look at you.

>>14106253
>china
>innovation

>>14106253
>after controlling for GDP
>still a weak correlation in the graph

I smell funny business going on in those statistics

>>14106253
>Daily reminder most philosophers are atheists
Of course most if not all philosophers are atheists.

To be a philosopher you have to say "Oh in the entirety of human history, in all of these books, noone has come up with the meaning of life yet! I reject everyone else including all religions! I'll invent my own thing!"

>>14106270
Chinese innovation is a meme. They steal from other countries.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/china-claims-more-patents-than-any-country-most-are-worthless

>>14100423
at least one person in this thread has a brain

>>14106260
Citations presuppose existence.

>>14106188
At my uni for every frat bro with a Jesus piece there's an alternative guy wearing skinny jeans and smoking weed who definitely disagrees with Christianity, and both of those types get easy college girl pussy. I think it's safe to say anyone who cares enough to go around debating people and creating infographics is probably an unattractive dweeb. It doesn't have to do with them being atheist or Christian.

>>14106329
Trying to play the centrist, huh. I bet you're agnostic, too.

>>14106275
>r-squared>0.8 and p<0.01
>"weak correlation"
Retard
>>14106270
Brainlet
>>14106268
Cope

>>14106226
Then I must be God

>>14106409
You aren't existence itself moron.

>>14106283
That's exactly what every religion itself is, though. The Ancient Israelites made a series of claims about reality, recorded in the Old Testament. Jesus came and made his own, unique claims. Saul of Tarsus came up with his own. In the East, the Rishis of the Upanishads asserted their own claims. Then Buddha later came and made many different ones. And so it continues right up to the present. Religion is merely a branch of philosophy, formed by the opinions of the men within particular time periods and cultures, subsequently canonized as absolute by the followers after them.

And I personally think the Buddha was the most correct of philosophers, while every other person thinks something different. Religion certainly doesn't solve any kind of problem of human subjectivity - it only claims to, with greater arrogance and dogmatism than any non-religious philosopher would be found to display.

>>14106409
You are, anon. Your consciousness is existence itself. Ignore any Jew-worshippers who tell you otherwise. They just want to feed the Demiurge more prayer-energy.