/lit/ - Literature

>>14084780
>Might be the best novel ever desu
it's memed because everyone gets this feeling
it's so fucking good i would have to kill myself to fully express it

It was written by 4 people.

>has this board that has had one or ten threads about this book literally every single day like ever even read it
>ITS A MEME MEME MEANS BAD XDDD
Fuck off reddit

It effectively sums up world history and life itself in a narrative and meta form

it's shit.

>>14084789
this is the only thread about pynchon rn anon. no one talks about it anymore. You sound upset anon. Is there something you'd like to get off your chest?

>>14084838
fuck off reddit

>>14084828
t. never read it

>>14084870
>go back to lelit
>doesn't want to talk about a great novel on a lit board

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>>14084871
Can someone post an excerpt of this piece of trash of a book – or of any of Pynchon’s work – that is really beautiful and poetic? I mean, something beautiful as the beauties we find in Shakespeare, or Homer, or Dante, or Flaubert, or Tolstoy, or Chekhov, or Nabokov, or Calvino?

People praise the “muh prose” of Pynchon yet all you get is bloated, bloviating, solipsistic, postmodern meaninglessness; dated, impenetrable references; pointless, preeningly self-indulgent digressions; desperate, crappy--quite often literally--attempts at humour; a bazillion forgettable, contrived, cardboard-cutout characters; dubious--perhaps even flat-out homophobic--depictions of homosexuality; and loads of dumb, sophomoric symbolism (penises and rockets--gee, good one, Tom! Like, such a far-out metaphor, man.)

It's convoluted, not complex; it's riddled with quotations and name-dropping which serve no apparent purpose other than to provide a veneer of depth, demonstrate he Knows Things, or perhaps achieve greatness via osmosis; the rare articulations of profundity or pieces of evocative prose are buried in whole libraries of pretense and incoherent inanities; and when Ol' Pomo Pynchon deigns to take a stand on anything he's about as nuanced and insightful as, well, missiles and male anatomy.

>>14084887
>Can someone post an excerpt of this piece of trash of a book – or of any of Pynchon’s work – that is really beautiful and poetic? I mean, something beautiful as the beauties we find in Shakespeare, or Homer, or Dante, or Flaubert, or Tolstoy, or Chekhov, or Nabokov, or Calvino?
>People praise the “muh prose” of Pynchon yet all you get is bloated, bloviating, solipsistic, postmodern meaninglessness; dated, impenetrable references; pointless, preeningly self-indulgent digressions; desperate, crappy--quite often literally--attempts at humour; a bazillion forgettable, contrived, cardboard-cutout characters; dubious--perhaps even flat-out homophobic--depictions of homosexuality; and loads of dumb, sophomoric symbolism (penises and rockets--gee, good one, Tom! Like, such a far-out metaphor, man.)
>It's convoluted, not complex; it's riddled with quotations and name-dropping which serve no apparent purpose other than to provide a veneer of depth, demonstrate he Knows Things, or perhaps achieve greatness via osmosis; the rare articulations of profundity or pieces of evocative prose are buried in whole libraries of pretense and incoherent inanities; and when Ol' Pomo Pynchon deigns to take a stand on anything he's about as nuanced and insightful as, well, missiles and male anatomy.

>>14084877
I'm telling you to stop being gay, an impossible request I know
>>14084887
>he's afraid of a book

>>14084887
read any of the sections in the first fourth about Roger and Jessica. Not v referential, very sincere, incredibly beautiful exposition of love during war time.

>>14084904
what would tyrone do desu

>>14084887
Reddit: The Post

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>>14084887
the real beauty is in the whole

>>14084887
fuck off roastie

>>14084887
I always liked this part from part 1
> Jeremy will take her like the Angel itself, in his joyless weasel-worded come-along, and Roger will be forgotten, an amusing maniac, but with no place in the rationalized power-ritual that will be the coming peace. She will take her husband's orders, she will become a domestic bureaucrat, a junior partner, and remember Roger, if at all, as a mistake thank God she didn't make…. Oh, he feels a raving fit coming on—how the bloody hell can he survive without her? She is the British warm that protects his stooping shoulders, and the wintering sparrow he holds inside his hands. She is his deepest innocence in spaces of bough and hay before wishes were given a separate name to warn that they might not come true, and his lithe Parisian daughter of joy, beneath the eternal mirror, forswearing perfumes, capeskin to the armpits, all that is too easy, for his impoverishment and more worthy love.

>>14084887
Very based post but you already know the answer—they cannot. The persons praising Pynchon for prose, are the pseuds of literature just throwing a term blindly. It is a novel for boomers, whereonceuponatime it received "rave reviews" from critics archetyping as THE postmodern novel. Pynchon is a worthless author and if it matters, Nabokov considered him a lousy student. Gravity's Rainbow is a convoluted, soulless, novel that distinguished itself only by its numerous plot lines and vulgarity for its time. There is nothing special about the writing. The songs are more onerous than they are whimsical. Anyone with an IQ over 145 will be quite averse to Pynchon and will see that all adoration for his novels is borne from midwits prone to preference falsification.

>>14085051
>Nabokov considered him a lousy student

t. pseud, he never had nabokov was just at Cornell at the same time as him. It's very obvious you haven't read it from your description of it, instead you've just read the wikipedia page and a few reviews. Please read before posting in this thread

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>>14085071
Both wrong. Nabokov said he didn't recall him and his wife said she remembered his handwriting was half cursive half script.
>go to college
>professors wife grades your paper
wew

>>14085032
Reads like a scatter-brain who thinks in very small bits and pieces and painfully hacked it together. This is actually what happens when brainlets take psychostimulants, which in Pynchon's case would have been dexedrine or biphetamine.

>>14085089
>arm chair PSYCHIATRIST

>>14085086
source plz

>>14085111
>zoomers are too stupid to type literally two words into a search engine
You're lucky you rolled trips https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/03/influential-writer-thomas-pynchon-was-a-student-of-vladimir-nabokov-at-the-university-of-cornell/

The real pynchon was killed after writing V. and replaced with a committee. Remember the cia are your tastemakers

>>14085171
More like pynch is a "recluse" because he was an old money/ivy league attendee/naval recruit/boeing employee and declassified MKULTRA and paperclip in gravity's rainbow.

>>14085171
why would the cia want there to be a story about a massive government conspiracy against one of its own

>>14084780
>rambling, eclectic, and maximalist style
>combines lowbrow and highbrow subject matter
>critical of both the mainstream and counterculture
>sex pervert
Pynchon is the most "4chan" writer out there. Anyone who has spent several years lurking this website should appreciate his books.

>>14084780
Fuck off newfag

>>14085124
desu looked into this and it's actually not clear the Pynch ever did take a class with nab. A pynch biographer who obtained a bootleg copy of his cornell transcript shows no classes with nab.
source:https://web.archive.org/web/20110718171845/http://revel.unice.fr/cycnos/document.html?id=1475

>>14085195
Poisoning the well. Note the abundance of gags and fantasy that coincide with hard conspiracy. Same reason Alex Jones does tinfoil alongside facts.

>>14085260
>first book explicitly contains nods to nabokov
>nabby's wife says she graded his papers
>but dude this guy trying to make a buck off of a ghost of a person found a "bootleg transcript" and I habeeb it
>he posted to redchannit.gov
Okay

>>14085086
Do you really think that fucking Nabakov would be grading papers? Jesus man think a little, most profs try and push that shit onto their grad students anyways.

>>14085398
>going to college even once
no wonder The Pynch dropped out

>>14084887
>or Flaubert (...), or Calvino
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>14084934
Reddit: The faggot that made this post