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Why does mccarthy hate semicolons so much

>>14074208
I found The Jude to be similar to Iago in its kind of supernatural kind of realism aspect of these two evil incarnate characters.

>>14074258
I didn't even think of him as evil. Much of what he says I agree with completely. More like an essential, dark fact of human life. More akin to Death than the Devil.

>>14074258
>The Jude

on the epilogue: they were putting up a fence, cutting up the open spaces which let the west be wild
on the end: the Judge was Glanton all along and Toadvine was the kids dad

>>14074278
I absolutely hate it when I misspell words, but that one's pretty funny.

>>14074398
>on the end:
wtf, gonna need some citations to back this up

>>14074208
>Any one care to discuss this masterwork or maybe post some funny memes also what the fuck was up
McCarthy readers...

>>14074208
I wish I could read it for the first time again.

>“What is true of one man, said the judge, is true of many. The people who once lived here are called the Anasazi. The old ones. They quit these parts, routed by drought or disease or by wandering bands of marauders, quit these parts ages since and of them there is no memory. They are rumors and ghosts in this land and they are much revered.

The tools, the art, the building--these things stand in judgement on the latter races. Yet there is nothing for them to grapple with. The old ones are gone like phantoms and the savages wander these canyons to the sound of an ancient laughter. In their crude huts they crouch in darkness and listen to the fear seeping out of the rock. All progressions from a higher to a lower order are marked by ruins and mystery and a residue of nameless rage. So. Here are the dead fathers. Their spirit is entombed in the stone. It lies upon the land with the same weight and the same ubiquity.

For whoever makes a shelter of reeds and hides has joined his spirit to the common destiny of creatures, and he will subside back into the primal mud with scarcely a cry. But who builds in stone seeks to alter the structure of the universe, and so it was with these masons, however primitive their works may seem to us.”

>>14074531
Why did you only greentext the first paragraph? What is this? My God, McCarthy readers are serious midwits.

>>14074560
>>14074467
If you dont like McCarthy and have nothing to add to the thread fuck off you retarded psued

>>14074570
I like McCarthy but still have nothing to add but a bump.

>>14074208
OP you should read All the Pretty Horses next. It's my favorite, but I still haven't read Suttee, desu. That is supposed to be the best according to /lit/

>>14074570
Fuck you, I'll say whatever I want. I don't dislike McCarthy, it's just that his fanboys are total pseuds.

>>14074531
Based passage

Some favorites:
>It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.

and

>Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth and merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill an strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.
>...
>..war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one's will and the will of another within the larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god.

>>14074264
This

>>14074560
Recommend something better that you like.

>>14074603
I'm not a pseud at all. I have no claim or pretension to being an intellectual. I just like reading books, novels. I have no interest in being perceived as an authority or intellectual or in participating in some pathetic, nerdy game of king of the hill.

>>14074208
>A legion of horribles hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained wedding veil and some in headgear or cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a Spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with old blows of mace or sabre done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses' ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse's whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious — all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning, screeching and yammering and clothed in smoke like those vaporous beings in regions beyond right knowing where the eye wanders and the lip jerks and drools."
I need to read it again it's been a few years

>>14074718
I loved and was blown away by this scene. I had thought that his joining the captain was the beginning of the killing and looting and action but then this comes and the whole regiment is wiped away like nothing, swept up by a vastly superior force. Remarkably brutal and awesome.

>>14074638
Your self-description highlights the issue with McCarthy readers.

Am I a brainlet? I recently finished this book. I felt it was often laborious and just filled with nothing. the Corncob memes of "He spat, they ate beans and tortillas and they rode on and the judge was evil and killed sum injuns.". The last part after the river crossing was great though.

>>14074795
I've only read two of his books and I liked this one a lot. I'm not a McCarthy fanboy. I liked this book. You are a small faggot of a man.

>>14075710
I could understand not liking it. I don't know about laborious, though. I found it pleasurable and an easy, breezy read.

>>14075710
Didnt finish my thought on the memes, meant to add that they are pretty spot on imo.

>>14074208
Read the Transformation of War by Creveld after it. It is a serious academic work by a scholar on war, but in essence it espouses the same philosophy of the Judge. I read it in the reverse order and it was really eerie

>>14074208
Yeah, the kid dead
There are some cool essays about the gnostic nature of Blood Meridian, which fits the epilogue nicely
Read with care however, as the essay irrevocably alters the tone of the book. I can't look at it with a naive view anymore.

>>14074208
>what the fuck was up with the Epilogue
it's literally manifest destiny my nigger

>>14074398
name exactly one time Toadvine ever quoted from poets who's names are now lost

>>14074208
>we all agree the Judge killed the man at the end, correct?
no

>>14074264
I took him as the ultimate end point of Nietzsche's will to power, and a forewarning of the limitations of linguistic rationalism.

>>14074457
it's conjecture.

>>14074618
>His origins are become remote as is his destiny and not again in all the world’s turnings will there be terrains so wild and barbarous to try whether the stuff of creation may be shaped to man’s will or whether his own heart is not another kind of clay.