/lit/ - Literature

>>14063276
You still care too much about what idiots think. You don't need to know about the news. Just do things. I know you're still a faggot because you wrote "unfalsifiable" but I think you're redeemable. Shut up and do anything.

Get hammered and have a good night out with your buddies

You need to read more comedy; join my book club: >>14061083

I'm 90% sure this is pasta but I'm not going to check the archives to be sure

>>14063276
LondonFrog, we know its you even if you aren't posting a Pepe or talking about binging. We've heard you rant about this same shit before, and you are recycling phrases

>Guys, intellectually I'm all spooked out.

Literally how you started picrelated

You better kys before the CIA do, no one exposes anything on this level and lives to talk about it after. die with dignity friend :)

>>14063276
Alright, fine. Let's go through this step by step.

You start by claiming that philosophy is nothing but unfalsifiable garbage. I don't know exactly how much philosophy you've read, but, yeah, philosophy concerns things you can't prove. It's also useful to ask philosophical questions because we're trying to learn more about the reality we live in. That said, we will probably never have concrete answers to a lot of questions. Get over it. If you hate philosophy, stop thinking about it.

You then go on to claim that economics is just 'applied common sense and stamp collecting'. Now, I know nothing about economics, but it seems pathetically immature to dismiss an entire field of science as 'common sense'. It's just trying to understand how the exchange of goods and services in a human society works. And from what I've heard, it takes a little more than common sense to understand.

Next you say that you see novels are nothing but entertainment, and have gained no insight from them. From this I can only deduce that you're either emotionally barren, a very bad reader, or the novels you've been reading are trash. I'm willing to assume it's the second, since I think you're pretty young. I can infer this from the fact that you care if people call you a plebian. Here is a piece of advice: Read books you actually fucking enjoy. Don't mindlessly follow /lit/ lists and don't read because 'society' tells you to or because you want to appear intellectual. Read because you know that reading is a richer and more edifying form of media than TV or movies. Yes, it's harder. And it won't magically make you more intelligent. But it will improve your language faculty, give you access to more detailed experiences than tv, and will help you with your thinking and empathy.

Yes, we live in an age where there's probably too much to learn in a single lifetime. That means you need to be selective in regards to what you actually learn. And yes, I've also been stuck in that phase where all I read was introductory or beginner books. Cut all the shit you're not interested in. Don't know what you're interested in? Figure it out.

Again, you don't need to know everything. This applies to history, too. Stop trying so desperately hard to conform to the appearance of intellectualism.

You say you don't care about any current events at all. Admitting that doesn't reveal you to be an idiot, it reveals you to be cynic. Hopefully, you'll grow out of it. It's not even important for you to think about current events at this stage.

To be honest, I have no idea who or what the 'spooks' are and I don't care.

Walking through the city streets and receiving epiphanies every millisecond is not what being an intellectual is like. Grow up.

You've realized TV is boring. That's good. It is at this point you reveal your (unsurprising) youth.


Maybe you are having an existential crisis, but you're also experiencing the pains of transitioning into adulthood. (cont.)

>>14063276
I liked your post.
one thing I’ve picked up...
American cops are the definition of normans.
Departments won’t hire people who can withstand mental stress—they don’t want cops questioning anything. Just people who obey and willingly do violence.
You might me a person who can handle mental stress...
Downsides to that are obvious.
Lincoln would sometimes say, it’s too hard, about mental stress.
Lincoln really could handle mental stress, too.
So, that’s what I do now, not drugs, not suicidal thoughts.

it's a copypasta...

>>14064002
(cont.) You're overthinking things, as usual. You feel like you're youth is being wasted every time you see regular young people having a good time. Accept that you're different. We're all different too, retard. None of us got the Hollywood teenage years we were promised. From the people I've talked to, that shit is not nearly as good as it looks anyway, and they all take it for granted.

Every thinker is a fraud, eh? My, what brilliant insights you have! What a smart young man you are! My god, I'm in awe of your genius! Maybe one day you'll actually read some thinkers. Then you can at least make infantile claims about their veracity in good faith.

Science and math require autism to appreciate? What would you call the moon landing, then? Or the Polio Vaccine? How about that time we split the goddamn atom? Or learned to fly?

Peasants only care about social drama, anon. Rise above that crap.

"Money, youth, videogames, and good looks are as good as it gets" And that about sums you up, doesn't it? I think I thought like you do once. If you keep trying to find an actual way to live and be happy, I think you'll grow out of your childlike mentality. Stop caring what other people think of you. Count the blessings you have. Maybe one day you'll wise the fuck up. Finally, stop sadposting on /lit/. Nobody cares, except for the rare times someone like me decides to invest time in a little shit like you.

>>14063969
London Frog?
I haven’t been keeping up...

>>14064002
>>14064056

>>14063276
>The spooks are powerful and must be removed but their removal leaves your mind in a promordial state that is more susceptible to spooks than before.
word

honestly OP i think you just need to get laid. wagecucking would be good for you, but you seem too privileged for that. try doing something creative, if you think everything's so full of shit? kind of seems like you're floundering in the abyss with no way out, but you want to make a statement of it, and this statement is yourself asserting yourself, but only through negativity. try being more creative and positive. you kind of seem stupid and shallow. maybe when you gain maturity and perspective you'll see the merit in everything you've so flagrantly dismissed.

>>14064056
/thread
Op's an overly cynical youth with too much anaylisis paralysis to actually try the things he thinks are pointless or below him. He's a borderline pessimistic nihilist that just needs to chill and pick something to fall in love with. He should embrace what makes him FEEL interested in a subject instead of why he thinks it's unnecessary.

this pasta is gay and self-refuting. What's there to be sad about if nothing matters? Isn't that pure freedom? No, you have a thirst for something greater. That sadness is your lingering spirit, begging for something greater or more. It is SOMETHING still alive in you, that makes things you wish you'd care about but can't. This is what you care about. Problem solved nihilism cured, faggot.

>>14064316
>What's there to be sad about if nothing matters?
hes rite u no

>>14063276
This is called whining.

Either contribute to a tangible thing that will last after you die (family, society, culture etc) or get as many drugs as you can. You aren't obligated to pick one over the other, but you have to understand that only the rich and powerful can have both without immense pain. You aren't them, so trying for both will bring you immense pain.

>>14063276
>I don't care about climate change, outer space, inequality, China, the EU, applied psychology, the education system, diversity, Russia, South America, refugees, nutrition, mental health, and more. Admitting just one of these would make me an iredeemable idiot, no doubt.
I love your post (it reads like a La Nausee) but this part is a little bummed out. Can you elaborate more on this - what is the reason of hatred on this?

>>14064469
You can pursue drugs and still create a legacy. Not all drugs are expensive and and ambition destroying. I do agree with you though that these really are the only two options for someone who's faithless and depressed. And even still, the legacy one is mostly self delusion as nothing really matters anyways.

>>14064508
All drugs destroy ambition. Life is better without tv and out of season food.

>>14063276
>Many fields like economics etc are just applied common sense
If you believe that, then you also don't know anything about scientific epistemology. Which is fine I guess, nearly all STEM PhDs I've met don't know anything about scientific epistemology either, but it is then just another in the long list of things you don't know about (and probably don't care about). This is likely a particularly harsh entry, since you do at times seem to think there's something more going on with math and science than with "philosophy." Which is, at the end of the day, just another symptom of the modern malaise.

>>14064823
You say things as if philosophers know epistemology. The fact is that they cannot give definitive answer too, they don't know how look at things outside of "common sense" non-intuitive theoretical way, and they cannot even point it out to scientist to correctly suggesting any ways to find answer.

>>14064838
The problem with scientists is that they're so thoroughly satisfied with common sense, that none of these considerations get off the ground with them. Philosophers are occasionally willing to think about whether there's something really weird going on here, while scientists will just talk about how, if only we had more supercomputing power, we'd have all the answers.

>>14063276
> I can't stand philosophy because of all the unfalsifiable garbage
Philosophy was never a science. You are making the same 200 years old mistake of conflating science with what is not science and never needs to be science. Philosophy is philosophy - not art, not science nor religion. Stop being an edgy STEMfag fffs.

>>14064849
>they're so thoroughly satisfied with common sense
theory of evolution is not a common sense at that time.
>Scientist do not think whether there's something really weird going on here
see Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. Scientist also can see something is going on.
>"if only we had more supercomputing power, we'd have all the answers."
give me any citation where AI programmer says AI can provide any answer including problem involving a halting problem.
I will get out of this nitpick here, but this can show why your answer can be wrong; if the theories got out of elementary stage, generally nobody says things with unrestricted optimism. They knew their own limits.

Go to university you fucking moron. What you're complaining about is LITERALLY what education is for.

That said, philosophy genuinely is garbage and the real work in ethics is happening in evolutionary psychology these days trying to figure out the 'emergent ethic.'

>>14063276
Seems like you've built up some pretty toxic and irrational thought patterns/justifications over the years of insecurity and desperate self-improvement.
While I can empathize with some of your feelings, I mostly just see them as the lashing out of a mind that cannot deal with the pragmatic complexities of adult life.
You can write off all human activity as ultimately meaningless (which I believe it is as well) but you shouldn't respond to it with inaction, that's a pathological response.

Most people have a decently intact goal/reward system so that they get intrinsic motivation whilst partaking in certain activities. They don't have to think about the ultimate meaning of life, because they just live it and experience "meaning" whilst doing so.

Can I have a guess, and say you probably have some form of ADD, depression or PTSD? Have you ever been to a therapist for any of those? If not, I'd suggest you at least give it a try. I know this might seem like I'm trivializing your thoughts as just a symptom of mental issues, but that's not the case.
I know how you feel, I've been there many times in the past, but it's not a viable response to the human condition and can lead you further and further down to places you wanna stay away from.

>>14065168
>That said, philosophy genuinely is garbage and the real work in ethics is happening in evolutionary psychology these days trying to figure out the 'emergent ethic.'

>philosophy is just applied ethics
>things are right if they are natural

Dumbass

>>14065168
agreed, philosophy is pure garbage these days. literally all the ideas shared in my classes are at least 100 years old.
you feel like you're learning stuff, but you're just articulating a bit more clearly the things you've already subconsciously picked up just through growing up in a postmodern society.
Philosophy is a stagnant, smelly pond at this point. STEM, or even psychology and maybe history, are where there's still room to trailblaze new insights. I was too dumb for STEM so now I'm stuck studying history with shit boring philosophy classes that make me wanna kill myself every time I attend them whilst my friends are working with cutting edge technology actually having a noticeable impact on the world around them..

>>14065303
I work in HR at a university and it fucking kills my soul to process study leave applications for late career academics reading about the amazing research they're doing on the cutting edge of science.

I've got the IQ to do that kind of work but academia is a shit career so I gave it a miss and I stand by that decision, but it fucking hurts.

>>14065303
the humanities department nowadays is just a place for people to hide their intellectual deficits and incapacity for mental precision behind a wall of jargon and contrived egocentric blabber

Become a pure mathematician or physicist

There is a lot of perspectives around reality and how it functions, a lot of infallible systems that express how the world is and where it goes, if you want advice just pick the one system that is useful to you and your objectives in the planet, but understand that reality is reality and going up to the domain of language to try to explain it leaves a fair amount of variables off.

>>14063276
>unfalsifiable garbage
Then shut the fuck up about it, you obviously don't understand the appeal.

>>14064573
Lsd and psilocybin don't destroy ambition, neither do stimulants like adderall.

>>14066375
Says the bugman

O piss off

>>14063276
>he thinks economics is a science
top lel

>>14065256
Get out of here you fucking CBT freak.

>>14066451
I'm guessing you've never tried either. Adderrall doesn't turn you into a bugman, it's more like cocaine than anything else.

>>14066894
>he didn't understand Taleb
top brainlet

what you need is Allah. there is no direction in eternity, but He reigns.

>>14063276
>I think we all need to man up and admit that money, youth, videogames, and good looks are as good as it gets. But not everyone gets.
I can not stress this >>14067093 enough. You will continue in your confused desperate state, tossed here and there by your desires, suddenly remembering the dread and then drowning it by making an altar to some debauchery, as your heart is starved to death. You can save yourself, and you know how. Do not continue in your refusal to bow to Him who made you.

>I can't stand philosophy because of all the unfalsifiable garbage.
Everything's unfalsifiable. Either give up now, and stop thinking the future is like the past, or grow a spine and go with what you can.

>>14064106
What?

>>14063276
>I can't stand philosophy because of all the unfalsifiable garbage.
Philosophy is not unfalsifiable. It's your mind that's too weak to examine philosophy.

>>14067109
>>14067093