/lit/ - Literature

Mildly based.

>>14057545
doesn't seem particularly groundbreaking

All that women hating red pill neck beard stuff will rot your brain. Yes I know it's written by a woman. Yes I have read it.

The debate is pretty good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6OWA80zUkk

>>14057545
Cringe but redpilled

>>14058445
based contentless nothing poster

>>14057545
A mixed bag of based and cringe. This latina jewess is the epitome of the Elektra complex.
What's funny is how this book make some to seethe and others to cope.

>>14057545
>written by female
Dropped

>>14057545
what's the tldr ?

>>14057545
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2687RHEhGI

it's a light heartd red pilling and not a bad initiation for somebody who is new to the stuff but doesnt go nearky far enough ofc

>>14059223
The blurb on OP pic sort of answers that.

>>14059241
y but that dosen't really explain what the book actually wants to argue. Is it good is it bad, what's the reason behind it etc..

>>14059259
here is an intro

https://theabsolute.net/misogyny/vilar.html

>Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina.

>>14059223
Beware the eternal roast

>>14059265
>>14059270
i don't really see how this is useful if you were to ever voice these oppinions you're just going to be labeled a misogynist and get excluded from the dating pool and maybe even lose friends.

>>14059317
>can't process anything except at the "social consequences" level

roastie don't postie become a ghostie

>>14059317
lol. who says you need to voice these things as opinions? just make use of the knowledge to navigate yourself into a better position in life. don't throw pearls in front of swine and never reveal your power level faggot

>>14059335
this. Never, under any circumstances, EVER, reveal your power level in public, or you will pay a great price. I revealed it drunk at a uni-party and lost all my female "friends" or aquintances in an instant. People are usually more open-minded and flexible outside academic circles, but you should watch out no matter who you are talking to

>>14059372
what could you possibly say that is so bad that you lose ALL your female friends INSTANTLY lol greentext or something

>>14059383
This, I need to hear how bad you goof'd

>>14059383
>>14059560
it wasn't anything that bad judging by the standards of what's said in this site-- I said something like "young women in western countries in the 21st century are the most priviledged group of people that has ever existed" and they just went WEREWOLF and wild... They called me an incel straight to my face and all the guys, even the types that I thought were somewhat based, took the side of the women. They demanded an explanation from me, but I already knew the situation was beyond repair. Literally everyone in the room was looking at me. Still, I began explaining my position, blushing and stuttering a lot, unable to form any thoughts concerning the issue. After like two minutes of talking nonsense I was finally able to form some sort of argument, but people were obviously not impressed and that my opinions are "problematic". I fucked up, shouldn't have uttered a word on the female question, but it just happened.

I don't know what were you expecting? People are not that tolerant, especially when it comes to casual "misogyny" in the humanities. From that day on I have been known as the "incel" of our major and women don't talk to me unless they have to anymore.

>>14059807
There is no hope for a species so painfully oblivious to the obvious. No hope.

>>14059807
lol. if you do drop the facade the best course of action is to own it, now you look even dumber if you back out, but i get that your autism flared up and you couldnt think.
im in eastrn europe tho so the reactions to such opinions are usually milder

>>14057545
Sounds like the whining of an autistic incel.

>>14057545
It is the burgoisie, not women, conditioning and controlling you thrpugh media

>>14059807
>"young women in western countries in the 21st century are the most priviledged group of people that has ever existed"
That's really fucking stupid. First of all, it's obviously not true. European nobles in many points in history were entitled to tonnes of privileges that are unheard of in modern society, purely based on their birth. You can also look at how much richer we in the global north are compared to the global south, or even at the wealth gap in Western countries. But that's beside the point. They mocked you because you started shit at a goddamn party which is an inappropriate venue for these sorts of discussions. The most important thing however is that they perceived what you said as a personal attack precisely because it's so blatantly ridiculous. In their eyes, you couldn't possibly mean what you said in the most literal sense because it's rubbish, so what you were really saying is that you consider the people you were speaking to as the most privileged people etc. and thus denying the hardships that they must've suffered in their lives.

In short, you absolutely deserve it. Have sex, incel.

>>14057545
It ignores a more nuanced theory of intersexual power dynamics(eg. even the most basic knowledge of evolutionary theory) for a meme about how men are slaves to women. It's true that a lot of men do act like slaves to women in many senses, she's right about that and caused a lot of butthurt by pointing out examples of it, but to say that is the entire picture is ridiculous. Also her contention that women don't really care about sex is absurd and likely a personal thing.

>>14059893
I didn't start any shit... We were in a small group of four people talking about gender and some roastie said that "men are still so priviledged because of the patriarchal structures of society" (she is some sort of vapid socialist who doesn't know what she's talking about and embarasses herself constantly in class asking idiotic questions) and to that I replied with what I said with an ironic smile on my face (nobody seemed to notice that). So I said it as "joke" (I actually meant it, but not in that context), but she decided to take it literally to prove a point or something... maybe she was on her period, I don't know... Anyways, she started half-shouting so that everyone in the room took notice of her and she made sure that everyone knew what I said by repeating it with a loud voice then expressing her "feelings" towards my statement, to which it had now evolved from a light-hearted joke. So I couldn't go back to saying it was just a joke because of the way she had framed the situation so I had to explain myself by backing up my "statement".

So initially SHE SAID that I AM priviledged UNIRONICALLY, not the other way around. So fuck off.

>>14059944
In other words, you couldn't handle a bit of banter and started sperging out and being mean to people at a party. Yikes.

>>14059958
>you couldn't handle a bit of banter
literally the other way around, are you retarded?

>>14059944
if she's so retarded how did you end up looking like one in this situation? admit it this was just a failure of situational awareness.

>>14059999
I guess the others lean on being retarded also, i don't know what else to make of it

>>14059944
>I guess she was on her period
If you genuinely speculate about events and the motives of women in this manner, you really do need to "Have Sex."

>>14060405
IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>14057545
Men and women outsource everything they can, unless they are exceptional people.
It's just that women can afford to outsource much, much more than men can.

>>14059967
>SEETHING
You'll always be an autistic incel freak and the sooner you'll grow out of it the better.

>>14062090
>You'll always be
>the sooner you'll grow out of it

>>14059944
Have sex

>>14060481
absolutely cringe

>>14059807
>>14059944
kek I almost did something like this once, a couple of random girls were talking about how men get called sluts and it's okay but women do and its bad, or something along those lines anyway, and I hit them with the fact that its that way because its easier for women to get laid, but they kinda just said no and I didn't really pursue it and the conversation was pretty much over anyway. It was getting to be the end of the night and we were closing up shop.

Anyway it was a good reminder to never say anything like that to girls, some things can only get cemented through experience.

>>14057545
I haven't read it but it sounds familiar.
Men suck so much pussy these days not because they're actively manipulated by women but because they watched too much disney princess movies in their childhood.

>>14059807
If you said this all with an impervious shit-eating grin instead of getting all flustered you unironically wouldn’t have been totally OSTRACISED. Not your fault but just saying.

>>14062227
>its easier for women to get laid, but they kinda just said no
How can women lack self awareness this hard? I thought such things were so obvious they were beyond questioning

>>14063124
because they're self-absorbed

>>14059944
You shouldn't discuss anything with that kind of person, they won't understand nor want to. They see it as a personal attack and will retalliate. My friend and I used to do it at parties, but we aren't autistic and could actually defend ourselves. We grew up and left university so we don't meet those people anymore. It can be fun to wind them up but women are the worst to argue with, ideas they disagree with cannot be entertained. They don't like hearing the truth, modern feminism has it's roots in absolving the individual of responsibility, it is easier to say your life is shit because of white men opressing you, rather than admiting you've never had any drive or passion to create a character from your own voilition.

>>14058509
How is it 'pretty good'? It's like any other debate with feminists: they blindly deny facts and reality, attack the person making the argument instead of the argument itself, and only take female problems into account.

For example when Vilar says men are forced to waste 15 months of their life in the military, while women don't, which is a clear case of anti-male discrimination; the feminist cunt first replies that women have to give birth to children, so it's equal (ignoring the fact that women are free to choose whether they want to have children, and their decision also affects men's freedom), then says that she's for equality and military service should be abolished for both sexes (then why doesn't feminism try to get it abolished?).

The only thing of value I learned from that video is that Vilar was quite popular when her books came out: apparently she was invited to a lot of shows and gave many interviews and speeches. It's sad that despite all her work, things have actually changed for the worse since then.

>>14063124
Women are childish like that. It doesn't matter if something is factually true or false, only if it makes them feel good or bad. If it makes them feel bad, it can't be true.