/lit/ - Literature

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>>14046164
Just finished Tiamat's Wrath last night...

I'm not sure I like the direction it went with solving the issues of the last book or two. Especially the final battle felt like the bad guys were made completely retarded so that the scrappy good guys could win after pulling a fleet out of their asses.
They even had the good guys do what they bad guys should have had set-up that would have completely flattened the good guys' fleet.

The whole book kinda felt like they knew they'd written themselves into a corner, so they just made things happen to say there'd never been walls behind them at all.

Which is a shame, because besides Cibola Burn, the series has been overall good.

I'll give them the major character death in it. That was at least a well thought out plan, that still required sacrifice to pull off.

I'll likely still read whatever the 9th and final book ends up being, but I'm not looking forward to it.

I'm all caught up with the box novel translation of LoM, but I've seen anons talking about things that happen way later. Are they reading machine translations? Or do they actually read chinese?

sanderfag a hack

Is Book of the New Sun good?

weebs and fags killed /sffg/

RIP

Let it die.

>combat autism
>weaponized meme
Which one of you wrote this book again?

>>14046678
Yes.

Anyone got any fantasy westerns/weird west book?

Preferably with an audiobook version so I can listen while lifting?

>>14046678
it's very good

>>14046661
*worldbuilds in your path*

Talking about world-building...
What are fantasy books with interesting and unique settings?

>>14047441
*Speaking of
I apologize

>>14047441
stormlight archive

>>14047165
unironically The Dark Tower. Up until the 6th book, at least, it's got a fairly western / old west vibe to it.

21 Chapters in and absolutely nothing of value or story progression has happened besides an assassination attempt in literally chapter one, and a coronation in chapter 10ish.

Christ what a mess.

>>14047441
Discworld.

>>14047743
>brent weeks

I hate Lift and that whole character archetype so goddamn much

>>14047743
You were supposed to expect that after the author had nothing to write about so he dedicated an entire book to tight pussy, then it took so long for the sequel to be released.
He is just stretching books to reach his quota for the publishing contract. It was supposed to be a trilogy, he stretched it then said "he never meant for it to be a trilogy", even though the trilogy came from his lips.

I have the book but will wait for a while to read it. After I heard that (with all the penis waving about pussy being too tight) Kip doesn't make a sloppy mess of that tight pussy I lost interest.

>>14047828
>After I heard that (with all the penis waving about pussy being too tight) Kip doesn't make a sloppy mess of that tight pussy I lost interest.

Funny you should mention that, but he's absolutely smashed that pussy wide open by the point I'm at. He broke the walls in the epilogue of the last book right before he fixed the painting / art thing.

>>14046678
It was the first thing I read when I started entering these generals and it was too good. Almost ruined the rest of scifi and fantasy for me.

I'm unironically enjoying cradle.

>>14048051
Need to find a mountain top for irl cultivation

>>14046164
OP is a faggot.

>>14048112
What I need to do is fuck a space angel

>>14047827
At least she'll be an adult come Part 2.

I need books like remnant by randi Darren / rules free vrmmo where shortstacks get stretched by big penises.

>>14048382
Degenerate sicko

>>14048382
Warren Thomas books

>>14047828
supposed to be a trilogy, and book 5 is still 1000 fucking pages...

>>14048318
Nah, she's like permanently 12 due to some sort of fuckery

Even though the author learned under sanderhack, I’ve read enough good comments on here that I’m going to give powdermage a try.

>>14046433
What’s been good about the series?

>>14047165
Jerusalem man by gemmell. Better than dark tower

>>14047441
Windup girl

>>14048051
Cradle is the best thing I’ve read over the last several years

>>14048724
What!?

>>14049001
Read xianxia

>>14048724
No? She'll be aged come Part 2, there have been Q&As regarding this.

Only 34 chapters into memory sorrow and thorn, and its really testing my ability to care. It keeps referencing old legends and swords and terrible beings. But its all tell, no show. The supposed villain is only talked about in long lore dumps. And the supposed solution to defeat him is in even more lore dumps. The main character Simon(sp?) Just walks around being a whiny shit and getting into small scrapes, while everyone around him never stop talking about far grander events that arent actually happening, but once did happen and are supposed to set up grand event to happen later.
Meanwhile in the present Simon is crying again, because he stubbed toe
Just reveal his secret identity already. Fuck.

That last few chapter in particular are literally a couple of nerd trying to cross reference imformation they got out of amother nerd's book. Is this a fantasy book, or a book report? I hope this gets better. Identifying things George RR Martin stole can only keep my interests for so long.

>>14048979
In general, the characters are good. Though, with writing faults that get worse as the series goes along.
The main plot of each book tends to come to a satisfying conclusion, though often the arc-plot of the series doesn't really budge.

The world is believable enough. The initial faction state of Earth-Gov (the UN), Mars, and the Belters each have subfactions. Such as the Belters having groups working for legitimacy and respect, and other groups that are out and out terrorists who're really just out to wreck shit and maybe accrue a little power that way.

The Human-Tech is generally firm sci-fi, with the handwave of the main engines that allow for constant acceleration with a comparatively small amount of fuel.
The arc-plot mystery is interesting, in that sort of: Everyone's gone like they left in the middle of whatever they were doing way. Though, their tech breaks physics over its knee, and even in book 8, which is several decades after the first book, there's still the occasional scientist bitching about it.

And, up until the final battle of book 8, the tactics felt smart enough. They made some degree of sense, though there were folks who had insane character shields.

Saw somewhere that the intent of the series was to fill the gap between "Solar civilization" and "Interstellar civilization" and it has generally done that.

>>14048051
Welcome to the club. Now take your scales and start cycling woodlet.

>>14049056
Someone made a chart yet? Pretty much every Xianxia I've taken a look at had terrible translation.

I've been reading Dune for the first time. Why is it so good bros? I will never again find a book this good.

>>14049211
I won’t make a chart, ppl bully me every time I make recommendations

>>14047434
*struggles to contain awesomeness in your path*

>>14049061
Wasn't it her monkey's paw to "never change" because she got mad all of her friends changed and grew up?

>>14049067
drop it
the love interest fucks some smelly pirate later on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LDv8fm_R7g
Now that the dust has settled, what did he mean by this?

>>14049365
You should be playing the superior porn game instead.

>>14049686
Aww, I forgot that spoilered text is sometimes a real spoiler.

>>14049403

>>14049712
You should post a name then

>>14049686
I still can’t believe that happened to poor Simon.

>>14049067
Has based Deornoth shown up yet? It takes most of the first book for things to get rolling, but the series pays off like no other. Don't listen to that other faggot MS&T is the GOAT of epic fantasy.

>>14049056
For me, it's Wuxia

Is Wolf in Shadow any good? Another anon mentioned Jerusalem Man, and after reading the synopsis, it sounds like it might be interesting.

>>14049793
Behind the Dune

Is reading the rest of the hyperion series a mistake? I just finished Endymion and while the prose is good, it wasn't on the same level of the original. At least the second one tied some loose ends of the first.

>>14050173
If you’re interested in a post-apocalyptic fantasy western, you won’t be disappointed. The only thing that might put some people off is that there are biblical quotes and stuff. It’s not a “Christian novel” or anything like that but there’s some in there. So, unless that’s a dealbreaker for you, I think you’ll like it.

Im in shock, guys
thraxas by martin scott is one my favourite easy reading/ fantasy series. now I finally read the new books and Im appalled. he completely lost his edge. its not funny anymore, no more snark, no more of what made the original books so fun.
Im currently middle in book 9 and I hope he picks up again in 10 and 11

>>14050325
>slutty tan elf in dragon scale bikini
>slutty muslim elf with a dagger
>down syndrome fetal alcohol guy braced back mirin some females

>>14050325
Isn’t he an orc lover pushing mongrelization and diversity

>>14050242
actually, christian quotes in a wester future fantasy sound pretty legit to me.
There were a few times where king does it in Dark Tower, and it actually worked really well. When its done right, it gives the feeling of prophecy or deep lore... shame a series with such potential was written by a fucking hack.

Thanks for your response anon, Im gonna check it out.
someone on sffg was helpful for once, holy shit

>>14050350
>>14050351
I always forgot how dumb lit is

>>14050454
What about the biblical quotes in "The Stand"?
I'm vex that someone didn't dick that 100 and something year old granny, she didn't get no dick since her husband died decades ago.

>>14050464
>describe cover to a T
>dumb

>>14050474
>thinks xir makes smart comment
>proves me right anyway
was that part of your plan?

>>14050468
I actually dug them in The Stand too, it's one of King's few books that isnt dog shit, tho the "extended/original" version is too bloated and gets unreadable, and he doesn't even use those extra pages to dick the granny.
Really, I like any of his books that have Randall Flagg/Walter O'Dim, he's King's best character.

all things serve the beam

SLAPPY CRAPPY

>>14047441
Senlin Ascends

>>14050454
You’re welcome. Everyone should read more Gemmell.

>>14050536
His main character gas station self insert is a Mary Sue and should have been the one to die.

Give me your best premise/setting/plot-hook idea, so I can steal them
We all know you aren't gonna write about them anyway, because you are lazy/bad or simply smart enough to not become a published author :)

>>14051114
In a world where no man can birth a falsehood, a liar is born.

>>14051114
The tapir threads not working out anymore?
People not giving up their work to you anymore?
You are not even being subtle. about it.

>>14051160
I don't know who you are talking about but that sounds great, do you have an archive link?

>>14051114
oh but the the autist begging for ideas in the fantasy general on 4channel is obviously very intelligent

>>14051114
A young orphan is bullied by everyone until a wizard shows up and tells him he is the chosen one that needs to defeat the evil power and along the way he makes new friends and powerful enemies.

>>14051369
That sounds like shit. It would never sell, who would want to read that?

>>14050688
Anon, just wanted to thank you again for recommending Wolf In Shadow. I bought it and right now I'm 3 chapters in. Ive been dealing with depression on and off for a while now and nothing has interested me lately. But this is the first book I've read in 2-3 years that has truly captivated my interest, and I'm fucking loving it.
I love westerns, and I love fantasy, but finding books where they overlap is hard, and even when I do, they're rarely executed well. This book does it right.

I love the way Gemmell's prose is pretty straight forward, like a classic pulp western, but the characters speak in formal/high speech, I'm a sucker for that kind of anachronism. And Shannow is just a really well written character, he's a big bundle of tropes, but tropes being executed correctly. And you had mentioned the bible quotes initially, but i was raised catholic, so i really like them. It's a great way to create a sense of deep lore in a 'second earth" story, similar to the way Tolkien uses in-story history to build import, but better adapted to future-scifi-fantasy. Really, they're not jarring, cause if you're like me ,grew up in the faith then kinda moved away from the church later in life, the scenes with quotes are hella kino (sorry, I've been spending too much time on /tv/)

These long Chinese litrpg web novels are brutally bad
Fucking invincible protag s who can solo everything while also being the best at crafting stuff...

>>14051534
I’m really glad you are liking it. Gemmell is my favorite fantasy author. Only time I’ve gotten emotional over the death of a celebrity or other person I didn’t know in real life.

Mods haven't deleted my thread but I still want answers.
Is a girl who likes Terry Pratchett based?

>>14050173
With the Undertaker on the cover, I ain't so sure....

>>14050688
What should I read if I dropped Sword in the Storm because it was too cheery for me? Felt like everything was going too well for the main character. I didn't make it halfway through the book.

>>14050325
>a series has lost steam by book 9
>it will turn itself around
that's not how it works anon

Are there any good 40k books? I've played it a little bit in the past but I've been diving deeper into the lore with some yt videos lately and find it appealing

Anyone familiar with this? Looks interesting.

>>14051955
imo pawns of chaos and lord of the night are two fairly good self contained books that don't require a huge knowledge of the world.

from what i gather pawns of chaos is a bit controversial and admittedly i'm partial to it because it was one of the first 40k novels i read myself. but i think it's a tonally good book and works well for people who are new to the lore

>>14051678
Im glad im liking it also, thank you again.
And i know you said it wasn't a "christian" book, but the more i read it, I actually think it is. But not in a bad way. the christian influences are pretty blatant, but i feel like they are utilized in a way that is very beneficial to the worldbuilding,, and that the way they are inserted into the lore and character profile is more informative, while still informing about the both the individual characters and how religion influences the story is more help than hinderance, especially if you know your bible.

>>14051678
i see there are two sequels, are they worth the read?

>>14051860
I got interested and looked this book up and remembered that I read it over 2 decades ago as a kid. I remember it being kind of average and not great. I don't remember any actual details though.

>>14048975
The first book was good at least, and its worth reading for best girl Ka-Poel

>>14051860
You might like Legend better.

>>14051997
I’m a Christian too and I also like those aspects of the books. I think the faith he includes in his work is one of the things I love about it. His other books aren’t as Christian but his magic systems are rarely like Harry Potter or anything, and almost always spiritual in nature.

>>14052008
I think so. I personally really like the end of the trilogy. No spoilers.

>>14052090
alright thanks, added to my list
reading tigana now and i really like it, but i feel like i'm ready to read a longer story after a string of a few standalones.

>>14050173
Yes these books are well done. And Jon Shannow is based

>>14051955
Eisenhorn omnibus is generally recommended. I've only read the first horus heresy book and that after watching some videos like you. It's light on the space marines and is basically about a straight edge inquisitor who slowly becomes more radical. Like a cop/mystery book in the 40k universe. You don't really need background lore knowledge

>>14052098
Happy to help.

I saw a girl reading tigana today in person. I had resist the urge to tell her that GGK is a bad author.

>>14052187

>>14049365
I'm having a great time reading Dune but I'm 550 pages in out of around 800 and I still feel like I'm being introduced.

>>14052374
Dune doesn't really have a conclusive ending until God Emperor. The first book wraps up its own plot nicely but the plot was never the focus and Paul's character arc feels incomplete without Messiah.

Are there any books about raising a cute little girl with freaky supernatural powers?

>>14051955
Dead men walking was probably the best Warhammer novel I've read. It's bleak but not in an edgy way.
By the end the two opposing forces become seemingly more and more similar to each other and the title could describe both.
Usually those kind of cheeky developments and meaning are just simply not there in the other 40k novels so it's quite refreshing.

>>14052429
Carrie - Stephen King

>>14052517
I'm not looking for suffering.

>>14051719
Yes.

>>14052187
>GGK is a bad author
Delet this

anybody read this? thoughts?

>>14051534
If you like fantasy and western you might like second era mistborn(wax and wayne).

>>14052235
People write a bunch of illiterate shit and get praised for it (looking at you finny's wake)

>>14053380
I read mistborn era 2 a few years ago, and I like it enough I guess. It just isn’t Sanderson’s best work, and it feels hacky even for him, who I already take with a grain of salt when reading his stuff. He’s obviously known for going full autist with his magic systems, then adding in the guns on top of that made him spurge out on the technical aspects of implementing them with allomancy, and it really weighed down the book but explains the “magical physics” of every gunfight for pages and pages, instead of moving the plot along or character development. That being said, Wayne is funny as shit And better developed than Wax, and every scene with him is fun to read.

and Steris is best waifu, would def dick her down

>>14049001
I can't think of a worse fantasy world to live in though.

>>14052235
This image will never not make me laugh.

>>14053822
>tfw no virgin 30+ waifu who would do what it takes to make her marriage work and her husband succeed
She is the best. If I got a loyal waifu like that I would kill for her, and my eyes have been open to thots and their actions for years.

>>14053965
>Pleb: Marasi
>Patrician: Steris

Godly: Colms sister harem

>>14053862

Any good fantasy that has good audio book of it?

what dnd class would a Blade Maiden be?

>>14054933
Succubus

>>14054933
Barbarian

I'm thinking of picking 7 forges, what's your take on the series?

>>14055258
Good start weak ending. Peaks at book 2.

>protags seconds in command are all beautiful women

What a terrible trope

>>14054824
What's your definition of "good". I have plenty of fantasy & scifi, but you might be a bitch ass pleb snob who will turn up your nose at whatever I say.

>>14055320
I'm pretty open to suggestions, as long you don't think it's bad I don't think I have any particular reason to dislike, after all I'm asking suggestions

Has there even been a fantasy book that's made use of illustrations? I understand that a lack of visuals can be a good thing as it allows the reader to fill it in with their own imagination, but at the same time it prevents the author's vision from being wholly conveyed. I know there are also logistical reasons for not printing books with pictures, but maybe there's been a web novel that's included illustrations of key settings or characters?

Why did I let you guys talk me into The Wandering Inn? This shit is dumb.

>>14051719
Girls are cringe by default.

>>14056000
pretty sure there's not a thing in royalroad that's actually good

>>14055513
They are called light novels

>>14053822
I feel like Sanderson's autistic worldbuilding is squandered on books alone, a lot of his stories are video gamey already, if he didn't have so much to work on I'd fucking love to see him work on an MMO.

>>14055513
Lord Dunsany

Why does all fantasy seemed to be based in Europe or European landscapes? Or is this completely wrong?

>>14056015
>this is exactly like the holocaust
why are conservatives always so badly triggered by everything that they have to straw-man so relentlessly.

conservatives will only be able to reply to this comment by strawmanning even though i 100% agree with the premise of this cartoon

>>14056450
Did you seriously never hear any leftists comparing "putting children into camps" to the Nazis? I should come and live in your town.

Is goodreads a good way to find similar books? I currently just use amazon and scroll through the "customers who bought this also bought" section but it's become pretty shit after reading most of the high rated books.

>>14056478
why, what do you call packing children in camps so many to a cage there's only standing room, putting them in tents during the winter when there's no more room, and making the only adults they can go to american prison guards who were not given any sort of background check to determine if they might be child molesters? fair?

lets be honest anon, you don't see latino children as people. if you did, you would side against the people doing this, not defend them. if you want to call attention to some issue a random person on the left who I've never even heard of is responsible for, go ahead. it still doesn't excuse you.

I don't know if you're a sociopath or someone who's been brainwashed into to acting like one, but if you're the latter, i sincerely urge you to reconsider every basic assumption that led you to believe this is ok

>>14056642
Well, at least we’ve established that it isn’t a straw man.

>>14055347
I enjoyed all of these, and they all have audiobooks.

>>14056411
wrong

>>14056653
okay, so sociopath. gotcha.

>>14056015
The decent stuff on royal road have like 30 chapters and an awol author

>>14056000
Didn't see me complaining about it a few weeks ago?
It's shit. The protag is shit. The book is shit.
The author is using it to get a paycheck. So it's within her interest that the words are as long as possible, and that the story is long enough that it never ends.

>>14052235
>posting that in this general like it belongs

>>14056411
Probably because you mostly read fantasy novels written by Europeans and North Americans, who mostly write European fantasy.
Asians write Asian fantasy.
Africans write African fantasy.
...and so on.
There have been several non-European fantasy novels discussed in these threads.

>>14056492
Sure. You can also look in the OP of the this thread for charts in the first link and various sources of recommendations in the second link.

>>14056694
Redpill me then anon

>>14056742
What are examples of American fantasy outside of westerns?

>>14056764
Not sure if you are being serious or not.
Urban fantasy, American Gods, Aliette de Bodard's Xuya universe, various Native American fantasy, The Magicians, and tons more. So I'm not sure what you mean specifically.

>>14056802
I forgot to mention the fantasy for various US time periods. Colonial, alternate history fantasy, Civil War, American Revolution and so on.

FUCK GRIMDARK

>>14056802
I guess I'm limiting fantasy anon then anon. We don't really have mythological creatures or any fairy tale-esque concepts though.

good shit

>>14056838
There are some, but how legitimate you think they are is a different matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Folklore_of_the_United_States#Legendary_and_folkloric_creatures

>>14056478
>Did you seriously never hear any leftists comparing "putting children into camps" to the Nazis?
did they say "this is exactly like the holocaust"? do you not appreciate the distinction between comparing one thing to another and saying they are exactly alike?

>>14056864
interesting, thanks for the thoughtful responses anon :)
have a good week my friend

>>14056882
weird holocaust if all you have to do to avoid it is walk the other way

hey where can I find epubs of william d. arrand's more recent stuff? PG&Es gonna cut my town's power again and I could use some trashy crap to read but there's nothing on mobilism or libgen

What's some fantasy where most of it happens in and around courts and mansions and is focused on the aristocracy?

>>14056890
I don't know which you mean specifically, but you can try IRC. If they are on Kindle Unlimited, I haven't bothered to try this myself, you may be able to get them from there, and then transfer them into Calibre. Return the book and get another and repeat. You won't be able to share them without removing the DRM, but you can have them for your own personal use that way. All you have to do is set up Calibre with your serial number/personal identification or what not. That's what I do anyway with what I get from Amazon.

>>14056889
are the children you've locked up allowed to leave?

>>14056492
Ways to use goodreads for recs ranked
1. Going through stuff an author/reviewer you tend to agree with likes/reads
2. Using groups (basically a replacement for using this thread)
3/4. The because you enjoyed (Book) feature that sometimes pops up on your profile/Going on a book's page and going through "readers also enjoyed"
5.The actual recommendations pages (they rarely update and in my experience are weirdly biased toward forgotten books from the late 90s)
6. trying to use the "new releases by authors you've read" page


So for similar books it's fairly alright, I just tested on California Bones (alright urban fantasy dystopia novel) and got two interesting Urban fantasy books from "readers also enjoyed" that I've never heard of before.
For general recs it's probably weaker than just asking here or even on r/fantasy lol

What about these?
https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-books-2018

https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/1652-it-s-science-fiction-fantasy-week-on-goodreads

>>14056908
The Empire Trilogy (Feist and Wurts) is the outstanding example for this
Kushiel's Dart (WARNING HORNY)
Merchant Princes (more of a portal fantasy but it's all about courtly power plays and economics)
The Goblin Emperor
The Traitor Baru Cormorant is imperial administration rather than courts but it kinda fits

>>14056890
>PG&E may cut power to about 850,0000 customers in California. It could be the largest planned outage
kek. America is being Third World'd. One state at a time.

>>14057002
The reader choices are largely crap for fantasy and kinda decent for scifi
The blog post is pretty well curated but it's basically the same stuff you'll see pushed in any Tor or publisher blog

I've been looking for the I Strahd audiobook, the abridged one that was read by Roddy McDowall. It was only ever released on cassette, and I've only ever seen some passing remarks that it's been uploaded to the internet. Can anyone here direct me to it? Thanks in advance.

>>14057052
It's called "Commiefornia" for a reason...

>>14056971
im not american lmao but no because the US actually cares about those kids and wants to keep them out of the hands of the rapists and traffickers who would use them as a tool to gain entry into the country.

>>14057052
Not only that, but PG&E says they may be doing it for 10+ years. Even worse, they are failing to prevent fires that doing the blackouts is supposed to solve.

You aren't wrong though.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbmkz8/us-military-could-collapse-within-20-years-due-to-climate-change-report-commissioned-by-pentagon-says

>The report paints a frightening portrait of a country falling apart over the next 20 years due to the impacts of climate change on “natural systems such as oceans, lakes, rivers, ground water, reefs, and forests.”

>>14057032
Thank you, had 3 of those on my radar, gonna bump them up.

>>14057059

>>14057136
If I think of any more I'll mention them since it is a subgenre I like but it's fairly bereft of quality

Outside of fantasy you could try the Vorkosigan books since they all have a pretty heavy focus on diplomacy and court stuff over the usual space opera focus of just military and war

>>14056929
Thanks, I'll try IRC.

>>14057052
It's entirely retaliatory. PG&E killed something like 70-100 people last year in a big fire because they delayed line maintenance to increase shareholder bonuses. They lost the resulting lawsuits and declared bankruptcy, and are now doing this as a malicious compliance thing, because how dare they get punished for burning a bunch of old people to death, so now they're fucking with everybody.

San Diego Gas & Electric only cut power for a few hundred people in the last outage because they've been actively upgrading their equipment and power lines over the past decade.

>>14057061
The company is privately owned.

>>14057069
>climate change

Fake Chinese lies!

>>14057156
Vorkosigan is really good, great character writing.

>finish new book in a couple days
>remember you have to wait another 2 or 3 years for the next book in the series
aaah

>>14056882
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/first-person/2019/6/20/18693058/aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentration-camps-immigration-border

Anyone read Eddison's The Worm Ouroboros? Some of the reviews I glanced over while looking up the book is kind of putting me off. Worth the read?

>>14057354
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/

excellent work ping, extra rice ration tonight

>>14057252
And then you hate the next book because your taste has changed in that time...
Friggin authors
Write faster

>>14056015
It is so bad. It is like a 14 year old on Tumblr wrote it. I am at the first interlude. It feels like the writer is just making it up as they go. How is this shit so popular?

>>14057611
>How is this shit so popular?
Because it's pumped out quickly, which appeases people like >>14057540

>>14057488
Is that how they are circumventing the pooh's honey pot?

>>14057611
See >>14056727

>>14047441
Thomas Covenant
The Dungeon Series (don't read the last book - just pretend book 5 is the last book and the series never was finished.)
Swampland Trilogy

Currently reading: Fire and Blood. It's dry but good

>>14053365
Yeah I did. It wasn't bad. Need to shut your brain off abit though.

What I Looked At Today & Other Stuff
It's foolish at best to trust any one individual when you have no idea of their similarity to you. As far as I can tell I'm more dissimilar than average, which means my opinions are of less value than average to the average reader, but I don't care. Any dissimilarity is coincidental and not intentional. While outside influences do affect whether I will read a book, it doesn't affect my enjoyment. Those who let outside influences affect their enjoyment are entirely silly. I haven't read LOTR because I found it to be boring, but I watched the director's cut of the movies which were overly long but enjoyable enough. Likewise, if something is entirely obscure and/or hated, but I enjoy it, then I don't have any problem telling people I enjoy it, within reason. I continually deride chartanon's charts and will soon do so again. I find most of what is included to be complete trash that most shouldn't ever look at. However, I entirely appreciate that he provides a different perspective for those who would enjoy it and I hope that he continues to do so regardless of their reception.

As a reminder, I'm using a tripcode for the duration of this thread by request of this post:
>>14037771

>>14050173 Wolf In Shadow - David Gemmel
This is the second (?) Gemmel novel I've looked at, the first being Sword In The Storm, which I didn't like. I don't like this one either. I'm indifferent to the biblical stuff. Probably the closest thing to a biblically referencing novel that I've enjoyed is East of Eden.

>>14050325 Thraxas - Martin Scott
Seems like a fun read with a nice voice. Will consider.

>>14050676 Senlin Ascends - Josiah Bancroft
This was in the 2016 SPFBO three years after being published and then became traditionally published and relatively much more popular. I'm ambivalent about it, so it's a low priority read.

>>14051973 The Cruel Stars - John Birmingham
Released a few months ago. Could be enjoyable.

>>14053365 Cold Storage - David Koepp
Seems fine enough, but I'm not interested in survival horror of "[x] (in this case fungus) runs rampant threatening the continuance of humanity".

>>14057032 Merchant Princes - Charles Stross
This is the 7th work from Stross I've looked at. I haven't liked any of them. Why have I tried so many? I don't know. I really dislike his writing style.

>>14057032 Daughter of the Empire - Raymond E. Feist and Janny Wurts
Feist continues to be neither good nor bad, but rather simply I don't want to read for some reason.

>>14057426 The Worm Ouroboros - E.R. Eddison
If you are studying pre-Tolkien fantasy, then sure, why not? Otherwise, doesn't seem worthwhile to me.

For additional hatereading fodder, here's an incomplete list of novels I've looked at and probably won't ever read after looking at them and also those that I have looked at and will read more of them eventually and hopefully find them enjoyable, thus confirming my initial assessment.
https://pastebin.com/hfsF4SC7

>>14058404
>. I continually deride chartanon's charts and will soon do so again. I find most of what is included to be complete trash that most shouldn't ever look at.
You do know I don't care right? I know a lot of the books I put on charts are bad, but compared to the other bad they are well written.

>>14058458
I know and I appreciate it.

These books are so well-written it's insane. Not in the literary sense, but in the sense that the author knows exactly what he's going for. It's snappy action movie dialogue that moves you from A to B while keeping things fresh.

Also the villain being charismatic and lovable every time he pops up onto the page was a fun change of pace.

Any kinos like this?

>>14058404
Holy shit based, never stop dabbing on the chartfags

If Lord of the Rings is considered the gold standard of fantasy, what would the Science Fiction equivalent be?

>>14058838
Dune. Most other famous SF is not particularly well written.

>>14058838
Gotta agree with >>14058841, and I don't even like Dune. For better or for worse, it's the standard.

>>14058838
Neuromancer, Philip K's Dick work and Lovecraft.

>>14059059
Lovecraft is the last name I'd expect to see held up as the gold standard for science fiction.

Will Solomon Kane satiate my need for Van Helsing shit? I've read a bit on the general world of Solomon Kane and I know the dude behind Conan wrote it, the big ass omnibus, collection or whatever the fuck it's called on Amazon is also rather cheap, so I've been meaning to get it as the current season and the one that follows seem perfect for it. Either that, or I'm gonna just reread LOTR, grab Hobbit and finally do Silmarillion.

>>14059062
I misread the post a bit, but Lovecraft to me is still the author to top. Don't really know if he'd make it strictly under sci-fi, but his work does have quite a few elements to not make it seem far-fetched.

>>14049067
i remember it being slow and almost boring at the beginning, and i never got invested into some of the characters and wished they just died so i could stop reading about them, but it paid off at the end. some of the character arcs i really, really liked. the thing i disliked most is probably the ending, it wasn't bad but i felt like alright then i guess whatever

>>14058404
thanks for repeatedly making these long autistic posts about which books you won't read whilst moaning about other people's tastes lol

>>14058838

1984, obviously

>>14058404

Please stop you're shitting up the thread with your awful taste and uncalled for opinions. How do people with such incredibly debilitating autism even make it onto the internet?

>>14059391
It's almost as if the internet is exactly the kind of place for spergs like that.

>>14058468
You're dedicated, anon.

Just learned this motherfucker is going back to the well, I don't have high hopes after the complete fizzer of a third book. That reminds me, was that dragon trilogy he wrote any good?

>>14059564
Dragon safari was shit. Don't read anything of Anthony's. But you're gonna read it anyways because you want to be contrary.

>>14059564
Some readers seem to suggest that he's going back to the blood song approach of largely single pov
Gonna wait on more reviews and possibly another book before I dive in though

>>14059564
Jesus. I remember Bloodsong. It was decent. I remember Tower Lord. It was a fucking travesty of a sequel. Never reading anything by him again.

other than cyanide, what would you recommend based on these?

>>14060051
Snakewood - Adrian Selby

>>14060051
The Elric Saga

>>14060051
Bakker

Are there any good stories with the MC being trained by a mentor/grandpa like figure?

>>14060231
Farseer if you also enjoy suffering
Belgariad if you enjoy predictable "chosen one" type fantasy

>>14060051
Unironically Lightbringer, also the Powdered Mage sequel trilogy is pretty great.

>>14060231
KOTOR II

>>14060259
Lightbringer lost me during the book about Tight Pussy, and judging by the spoilers I don't care too much to finish it.

>>14060274
I gave up on it when it turned out Kip wasn't getting with qt 3.14 Teia. I hate that Tisis whore so much.

>>14058838
I don't think there's a hard equivalent because I don't think there's any single work of scifi that influenced the entire genre nearly as much as LotR did for fantasy. Frankenstein, The Time Machine, War of the Worlds, Journey to the Center of the Earth, I, Robot, Foundation, Childhood's End, Starship Troopers, 1984, Dune, Neuromancer, let's be honest Star Trek and Star Wars, and plenty of others were massive influences on specific aspects and subgenres of scifi, but none came to define the entire thing like Lord of the Rings. I think it's mainly because scifi was more disparate to begin with.

>>14060286
Tisis “tight pussy” not Teia “the murderous” ok. praise orholam.

>>14060384
If only Weeks didn't prefer thoroughly used goods.

>>14060274
As someone that's in the homestretch (got about 60 pages left), every single one of the spoilers that were posted were complete and total bullshit.

It seems like the actual ending will be somewhat controversial given how it's playing out, but not from a "that was good" or "that was bad" standpoint, it's moreso /how/ the situation is handled and the ramifications of that.

Just finished the latest book in the Red Rising series, Dark Age. It was okay. I liked it more than the last book which sucked. Not sure why I keep reading this series. This latest trilogy though, it's giving me the same feeling as book 1 did. Like the author knows the story he wants to write but feels obligated to render the lead-up to it. Like book 2 in the original trilogy was where the story really started and book 1 was there to provide the background. I got hat feeling with book 1 and most of book 2 of this new trilogy.

>>14060532
Is this the one with the girl that killed herself at the beginning?

>>14060556
I don't know, I barely remember book 1. Also I made that post right after reading and upon further reflection I really didn't like this latest book. Equally bad as the last one. 2/10 would not read again

>>14059168
>>14059391
What would you prefer that I post about?
I'm not interested in a safe space hugbox, though you may be.

>>14059168
>you won't read
That isn't and hasn't been exclusively the case.
Majority certainly, but does that really matter when it's not possible to read even a sliver overall of what I do find interesting?

>moaning about other people's tastes lol
This is a mischaracterization.

>>14059391
>awful taste
As I said in the preface, it's dissimilar.

>uncalled call opinions
How dare someone on 4chan posts an opinion that no one specifically asked for!

>incredibly debilitating autism
Just because you believe it to be so doesn't mean that it is. Not the least of which is the complete conflation between "4chan autism" and "actual autism", the former of which is simply "something I don't like but I can't just say that directly so I have to use some other words according to the local culture so that I seem like that I fit in." Probably the posters I dislike the most are those who come to 4chan in search of a conformity they prefer relative to the standard societal version.

>>14060051
More cyanide? Otherwise, unironically Game of Thrones.

>>14060501
Just finished - Ok, yeah, people are going to absolutely hate that ending epilogue and it's ramifications, but everything up to that point was pretty great, and ended on a fantastic note. Before the epilogue.

Major spoilers for the epilogue and ending of Lightbringer

The epilogue makes it very clear that the entire Lightbringer series is a story being read by a character in the Night Angel universe, implied to be a bible of sorts, and ends basically as "until next time...", more or less cementing the rumor that he's doing another trilogy set in the Night Angel world.

>>14060624
i'm not that anon and i think you're super autistic too with your constant lists. your reviews are ok but that one list of books you didn't want to read well no one really cares and that was clearly an inability to read the room. your taste kinda sucks but then so do most ppls here.

>>14060719
>spoiler
Good. I liked that and want more.

>>14058404
>It's foolish at best to trust any one individual when you have no idea of their similarity to you. As far as I can tell I'm more dissimilar than average, which means my opinions are of less value than average to the average reader, but I don't care. Any dissimilarity is coincidental and not intentional. While outside influences do affect whether I will read a book, it doesn't affect my enjoyment. Those who let outside influences affect their enjoyment are entirely silly.
goddamn you're like a pretentious first year writing student who thinks his derivative works are of a higher echelon than the greats and classics. nigga shut the fuck up, literally no one cares.

>he doesn't finish the chapter he's reading before taking a break

>>14061193
I accidentally stopped a book for the night right before a 3 chapter sex scene and I've still not got back into it lol

>>14061193
>He doesn't start to read the next chapter until the inevitable cliffhanger moment is resolved

Phoneposting, don't have the tripcode with me.

>>14060941
If you mean the pastebin, you didn't have to open the link. I don't expect others to care and it doesn't matter if they do. If there were only posts here that were specifically for others to care about, there wouldn't really be any posts at all.

>>14061029
You've entirely misunderstood, but that's easy to do when you slavishly worship at the altar of traditionalism and the cult of popular opinion. You clearly care. What you meant was that you believe that my posts are without value and no one wants to read then. That may well be the case, but it doesn't natter as they are not mandatory reading.

>>14061568
Select all that apply. I developed autism to cope with people (shutting yourself away so you can't be hurt) and I can turn it off, but you seem to have been born with it.

did anyone enjoy this?

Just started reading it and idk if this memey humor digression style is for me

>>14056971
You have to go back

>>14060624
What an attention whore you are. This is my one and only (You) to you, treasure it.

>>14056850
No, just "shit" would be far more accurate

>>14059676
what did he mean by this

>>14061958
Nah it was really good. Only problem with it is that nobody swallowed sour spit in the whole book.

>>14061813
I bought it years ago but never got around to reading it. I think I found out about it because the author is from Something Awful.

>reads rational fic
>can't enjoy fantasy or soft sci fi anymore without seen the stupidity or dumb stuff and setting people make

Name one good fantasy or sci fi story that isn't full of plot holes or irrational plot stuff.

>>14062089
Blindsight

>>14062094
Tried to read, boring.

>>14061686
None apply. Also one doesn't develop autism. That isn't how it works.

>>14061878
You're welcome.

>>14062162

>>14062237
?????

should I read the Lightbringer Series?
yay or nay?

>>14062281
I don't know.

>>14062286

>>14062281
based on the books I read by brent weeks im gonna say no

recommend me some books in which the hero is total failure and not the mightiest super wizard hero dragonkiller

>>14062349
Farseer Trilogy Farseer Trilogy Farseer Trilogy

>>14062349
my diary LMAO

>>14062362
>robin hobb
Im neither gay nor do I have a vagina

>>14062349
Monument by Ian Graham.

>>14062281
Of course not. What manner of retards have found this thread that Brent fucking Weeks is recommended and asked about all the time?

I haven't posted my list in years, since I started making charts. Have a gander at the shit I read over the years.

>>14062281
Do you like tight pussy?

>>14062437
recommend something better

>>14062449
harry potter

>>14062449
Bakker

>>14062473
>signed vagina book
Entered like I would enter the authors vagina. But how is this related to SF&F if I may ask?

>>14062473
ummm how does this book tackle natural trans vaginas

I cant get over this list

>>14062449
Dragonlance Legends

Why is William D Arand only using andrea p recently? I think he used to use andrea for his "pg18" books, and Sylvania for his smut. But now it's just Andrea.

>>14056642
Your description is a gross exaggeration but regardless you don’t get put into cages if they don’t break the law. Simple as that.

>>14056971
They’re allowed to not come here in the first place

>>14060259
How’s the original powdermage series?

>>14062281
I couldn’t make it through the first book. Besides his shitty prose and overall writing style, Week’s worldview from being a bartender most of his life is very apparent with his characterizations in these books.

>>14062349
Thomas covenant

>breeks anon is thinking he is fooling anyone by pretending to be multiple persons

>>14062442
Don't be a faggot anon. Use Calibre to manage your books.

>>14062579
I actually wrote him an email asking if he would use stephanie savannah for future projects because she was fantastic in fostering faust. hasnt answered yet but on his blog he said hed have andrea re-record fostering faust. i think its a shame. andrea is nice and all but its good to have verity in voice actors and she is highly sought after so books will take longer to be made.

Anybody recommend any stuff with dragon riding? Besides the obvious Pern stuff.

>>14062775
dragon riding or dragon "riding"?

>>14062790
Nonsexual dragon riding with the lights on for the purposes of warfare and transportation. I'm familiar with Pern, Temeraire, and the Eragon shit but that's about it.

>>14062775
what kind of "riding" are we talking about here

>>14062797
>Nonsexual dragon riding with the lights on for the purposes of warfare and transportation
l-lewd

>>14062497
>dark tower 5, 6 7
>good fantasy
>Harry Potter
>ok fantasy

Yeah this really is a good bait image.

>>14062579
They had a contract dispute, iirc

>>14062775
Not to be confused with the battlemage written by the literal faggot stephen aryan.

>>14062856
Looking this up it appears that the main character's name is "Falco Dante". Is that reflective of the overall quality of the book? I have this theory that the quality of a fantasy story is directly proportional to how stupid the names are.

>>14062881
I think the author tried to have the name
meaning be prevalent to the character (which I don’t like) but I still found this to be be a fairly good read.
Dante: “lasting, enduring”
Falco Dutch meaning: Shimmer; shine

>>14062733
>manage audiobooks more than how I already have it
Unlike you ocd autists, I don't like my shit organized by author, series, or date.

>>14062752
Hopefully she doesn't pull a Jeff Hayes and bite the hand that supported her when she was a nobody.

>>14062841
Why are all narrators turning feral?
First it was Jeff Hayes betraying Arand, then Dakota Krout got betrayed at his last book, now William got shafted again. Of course this doesn't cover the, I'm sure , countless others that we heard nothing of.

>>14062979
Money always comes first

>>14062956
i dont even know what happened between william and jeff. all i read about is speculation and no one has a firm answer. it clearly couldnt be because of money cause podium is way more expensive than soundbooth theater is.

>>14063002
Jeff broke contract with Arand and dropped a book to finalize soundbooth theatre. It's why the Super Sales on Super heroes audiobook took so long. They had to wait till the other was free to publish it. It's also why that book was published through podium.

>>14062985
And the "oh shit we're really making money on, this I need to make sure nobody else can compete with me" attitude. Happens all the time with small things going big. Like Michel Scott Earle trying to trademark the term "dragon slayer" and using bots to boost his books and so on.

>>14063184
The monopoly always tries to close the loophole that made them a monopoly. It's how they maintain power.

>>14063183
that sort of make sense. do you also now what happened with stephanie savannah? I really did enjoy her performance in fostering faust and id hoped shed do more of his books in the future.
now dont get me wrong i very much enjoy andrea. she is fantastic and has gotten only better compared to when she started out but if she does everything im gonna get burned out on her voice. i wouldnt mind if hed switch between andrea and stephanie for the randi books and just experiment with people for the arand books. i wouldnt mind nick podehl again for example or maybe even luke daniels. you get my idea i want a bit more verity.

also on a side note. if the eventual sequel to super sales isnt gonna be called super sales on super villains imma be real mad.

>>14063184
wasnt even dragon slayer. he wanted to trademark a certain type of cover "generic buff fantasy guy holding a weapon on and posing with".

trademarking books happens all the time and it isnt really bad. what people mostly trademark are specific books by a certain author.
for example harry potter is in conjunction with rowling is trademarked. MSE just went full retard basically. atleast hes doing well with kickstarter now. clearly people like his books to the point where they throw thousands of dollars at him.

>>14047165
Quaternity or Haxan both are weird westerns

comfy adventure fantasy without world ending threat or evil bad guys?

>>14063253
Elfin Ship by Blaylock
Last Unicorn
Night Circus
Jungle Books

>>14063232
You ever realised that Arand's titles end up as two of the same letter when abbreviated?
Fostering Faust = FF
Cultivating Chaos = CC
Wild wastes = WW
Dungeon deposed = DD
Incubus Inc = II
Super Sales = SS
Swing Shift = SS

>>14063329
His older Otherlife/Selfless Hero series doesn't.

>>14063329
its hard to not notice. but there is also remnant in addition to selfless hero.

We got a cover boyos. I'm stiff thinking about that shortstack trying to bet pregnant.

>>14063379
i really dont like remnant and incubus inc so far.
they feel kinda off. i cant put my finger on what exactly is wrong about them though.

>>14063350
Wasn't remnant originally named reviving remnant or some shit? Or zombie zombie?

Just finished the wheel of time.
I enjoyed it very much save for most of the Aes Sedai intrigue sections.
What should I read next?

>>14063383
It's because he doesn't take beautiful pure virgin waifu girls anymore. He is taking used goods, and second hand roasties, and you can't handle it.

>>14063402
nah im not one of the cucks that delude themselves into that sort of thinking.
theres something about the writing style itself.
i couldnt actually give a fuck about the sex. im actually in it for the story. what i enjoy are the little bits of lore that slowly add to the whole. for example finding out that the curator is miles campbell, vinces and melodies father and felix uncle was really a great moment. i also have an issue with how slowly the arand books get randi'd. its a minor issue but might as well stop publishing arand books and make them all as darren. its just a minor gripe mind you but i really cant put my finger on what exactly is wrong with it. its nothing relating to the smut. its something with the narrative and story telling that is slowly changing.

>>14063451
Yea. I saw the author was forgetting when to take off the darren cap when writing. Darren is indeed bleeding into Arand.

>>14063451
I didn't pin that spoiler to wild wastes and super sales, only inc inc. Incubus inc is also before swing shift, would be nice to see how the react in swing shift 2.
too bad felix won't be supering his cousin, or melodie wouldn't get Vince'd. Need more incest and rape

>>14063500
>too bad felix won't be supering his cousin, or melodie wouldn't get Vince'd. Need more incest and rape
not happening. arand follows the "noble villain" archetype for most of his darren books. no one is geting star wars'd.

>>14055513
Spiderwick Chronicles.

>>14062941
In other words, you can't bothered to do anything with it.

>>14063329
Congrats, you've discovered alliteration

/sffg/ how do I become a good writer? Right now all I'm doing is painfully ruining something important to me

>>14063916
read a variety of good books, read books on writing, get feedback from other people, identify your weaknesses so you know what to work on, and most importantly keep writing. your first attempts won't be good.

>>14063916
don't bother with the act of writing until you learned how to tell a story
how to tell a story you need to learn about story-structure, themes and character

>>14063953
that's what I'm asking

>>14063916
there's tons of books and podcasts about writing fiction and screenplays. you can even take classes.

>>14063973
Story-structure: look up "Heroes Journey", 3-act-story, 5-act-story, John Trubys "The anatomy of story"
Themes: look up list of themes, use 1 or more synergizing themes
characters: learn about characters as "story-function-archetype", look up archtypical characters from Jung, look up personality-type charts, learn about motivation/desire/weakness(psychological, moral)

>>14063998
sorry meant
*3-act-structure
*5-act-structure

>>14063916
You don't. Instead accept that you're shit and write what you can.

>>14064207
New Thread
>>14064207