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14045075 No.14045075 [Reply] [Original]

Why start with greek when you can start with the Chinese?

Think of all the time your wasting not learning and reading Chinese.

>> No.14045082

>>14045075
Cute bear.

>> No.14045098
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>>14045075
>your

>> No.14045109

>>14045098
what is a Shitpost with out shit grammar.

any it did not change my point. the Greeks are pointless stop wasting your're time.

>> No.14045117

>order good
>women bad
>yay farming
>fuck mining
There, that's Confucianism more or less. No need to learn such a retarded language now

>> No.14045122

>>14045075
why should i bother with soulless insectoids

>> No.14045146

>>14045075
Greek is cooler than Chinknese.

>> No.14045151

>>14045075
I am learning Chinese

>> No.14045157

I agree.

China is the future.

And you need to get on board quick or there'll be no more starting with anything.

>> No.14045175
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Chinese philosophy lacks the rigor of their Greek contemporaries. In a handful of Plato's dialogues there is more wisdom than can be found in all one hundred schools of China.

>> No.14045182

>>14045175
No one cares about oldChina.

In NeoChina there is more intelligence in a single social credit exchange than the entirety of Plato's work and its interpretations.

>> No.14045183

>>14045117
Confucianism is the worst of the many different Chinese philosophies.

>> No.14045191

>>14045175
Plato is a psued, his dialogues have no real practical value or application.

The Tao Te Ching is a guide for the contemporaries of Laozi to survive in a China that was drowning in blood.

>> No.14045308

>>14045117
>yay farming
>fuck mining
I agree with this

>> No.14045349

>>14045075
The Chinese are mere babies compared to the ancient wisdom of the Indians, it's much more worthwhile to learn Sanskrit. Even the Chinese admit this implicitly in their behavior, having adopted an Indian system of thought (Buddhism) as one of their major religions.

>> No.14045701

>>14045349
this desu senpai

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>>14045109
>any

>> No.14045712

>>14045349
>>14045701
man fuck you, i learned sanskirt and i forget how to use a fucking toilet, literally i can't figure that shit out, i'm trying to do metaphysics but i always go to the streets to poop then i got arrested for this stupid nigger, i had to stop learning sanskrit so i don't go to jail again for that shit, fuck sanskrit

>> No.14045718

>>14045712
>that one chauvinist boomer that seethes upon the very utterance of a foreign culture

>> No.14045733

>>14045075
it was fun until they commited cultural suicide with communism

>> No.14045736

>>14045718
fuck you nigger, i speak 6 foreign languages. i wanted to learn sanskrit but i swear it made me forget how to use a toilet, it pissed me the fuck off so i'm actively trying to forget it

>> No.14045741

>>14045117
Every single one of these points are true. Fucking based.

>> No.14045848

>>14045075
cope harder lmaoooo

>> No.14047304

bump

>> No.14047741

>>14045718
Self outed as a poo.

>> No.14047838

We need a 'start with the chinese' chart.

>> No.14047869

>>14045122
How are they soulless?

>> No.14047883

>>14045075
>ching chong follow the way man but you gotta find it first. what, you expected me to tell you where it is? man it can't be written down *hits bing bong*
why would i waste my time on this retarded hipster hippie shit. literally stoicism for people who drink craft beer

>> No.14047964

子曰:「巧言令色,鮮矣仁!」

>> No.14048017

>>14045075
why would post a politician though

>> No.14048059

There's a reason chinks never exported anything other than materials and good, and why they only ever got colonized by ideas from other places. Because they're homogenized hive people.

>> No.14048078

>>14045075
I read that as "Think of all the time your wasting learning and reading Chinese."

>> No.14048115
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*ahem*

>The problem of reading is often a touchy one for those in the China field. How many of us would dare stand up in front of a group of colleagues and read a randomly-selected passage out loud? Yet inferiority complexes or fear of losing face causes many teachers and students to become unwitting cooperators in a kind of conspiracy of silence wherein everyone pretends that after four years of Chinese the diligent student should be whizzing through anything from Confucius to Lu Xun, pausing only occasionally to look up some pesky low-frequency character (in their Chinese-Chinese dictionary, of course). Others, of course, are more honest about the difficulties. The other day one of my fellow graduate students, someone who has been studying Chinese for ten years or more, said to me "My research is really hampered by the fact that I still just can't read Chinese. It takes me hours to get through two or three pages, and I can't skim to save my life." This would be an astonishing admission for a tenth-year student of, say, French literature, yet it is a comment I hear all the time among my peers (at least in those unguarded moments when one has had a few too many Tsingtao beers and has begun to lament how slowly work on the thesis is coming).

>I remember when I had been studying Chinese very hard for about three years, I had an interesting experience. One day I happened to find a Spanish-language newspaper sitting on a seat next to me. I picked it up out of curiosity. "Hmm," I thought to myself. "I've never studied Spanish in my life. I wonder how much of this I can understand." At random I picked a short article about an airplane crash and started to read. I found I could basically glean, with some guesswork, most of the information from the article. The crash took place near Los Angeles. 186 people were killed. There were no survivors. The plane crashed just one minute after take-off. There was nothing on the flight recorder to indicate a critical situation, and the tower was unaware of any emergency. The plane had just been serviced three days before and no mechanical problems had been found. And so on. After finishing the article I had a sudden discouraging realization: Having never studied a day of Spanish, I could read a Spanish newspaper more easily than I could a Chinese newspaper after more than three years of studying Chinese.

http://www.pinyin.info/readings/texts/moser.html

>> No.14048188

>>14048115
That's just a product of poor language classes and not using spaced repetition/mnemonics to remember stuff.

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>>14048115
Have a high iq

>> No.14048298

>>14048115
This >>14048291 but unironically
>Based phoneposter
and this >>14048188

>> No.14048826

>>14045712
honestly pathetic

>> No.14048882

>>14048188
>not using spaced repetition/mnemonics to remember stuff
Sounds like good language learning to me.

The world is full of people who can write a competent email, recall a long list of words, but can't actually speak like a real person does for shit. Quite conceivably the quoted dude has worked on his tones and rhythm, learned words by sound and tackled whatever dialects it was that were most relevant to him. Most people not posting here learn languages to use them in active life.

>> No.14049012

>>14045075
The Chinese are definitely worth more of a read than the Greeks. The values within China's literary corpus is clearly superior as China was strong when they were first written and are now on the way to being the number one nation in the world. Greece on the other hand is nothing compared to the past it once held, so it would be fair to say whatever values lie in their literature was not good or healthy in the long run.

>> No.14049219

>>14045117
>yay farming
>fuck mining
Where is the lie tho?

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>>14045075
Unlike you philistines who pretend you're going to spend the next 20 years of your life learning a language to read books you aren't even interested in, I have read multiple Chinese books in translation including one of the four great classical novels. Stay mad, illiterate pseudo-intellectuals.

>> No.14049693

>>14049362
Are you the niganon let me see your black hands

>> No.14049696

>>14045075
Xi is fucking based

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>>14045712
>>14045733
>>14045736
Anglo

>> No.14049737

>>14049693
No, I'm the autist who occasionally posts my Goodreads which documents my reading of the My Little Pony comic books.