/lit/ - Literature

Aristotle being the final read, not On War - that was merely an example.

I have a MIGHTY NEED for any recommendations on Guerrilla warfare.
>I'll bump a few times and dump tomorrow morning

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Everyone should read everything by David Killcullen, btw.

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Thanks anon, I appreciate the recs. And did't one of the Chinese Communist leaders write a book about guerrilla warfare? You should probably check it out.

>>14023092
>war experience
Obligatory Remarque mention. Obligatory Jünger mention.
Also
>WWI
Henri Barbusse, Le Feu
Written by a French infatryman
>WWII
Pierre Closterman, The Great Circus
Written by a French ace pilot/ Faulkner once said it was the only great book to come out of WWII. He describes missions and personal experiences of the end of the war, not very literary but very interesting and sometimes funny.

>>14023541
>Obligatory
obligatory is a misunderstood word.

>>14023092
Chandler: The Campaigns of Napoleon is a great read and complements Clausewitz well.

Someone once recommended a book on war in Bosnia, I believe it was written by a British journalist that went there during the war to report on it. I might be wrong but I think that was it, does anyone know how the book is called? I was unable to find it since

>>14024040
Never mind, found it!

>be me
>counting all the books on and related to War I can in an epic list nearing a hundred in a 4chan post for this thread
>spend hours researching/writing the perfect summary and the likes
>search up a pic to post with the list
>browser crashes from the 15 GB of storage on this computer
>instantly closes itself deleting the list and everything written on that post
why

>>14024161
That's why you keep a permanent list somewhere on the net and copy-paste m8.

>>14024171
i only copy past after posting

you have no idea how many times this has happened

>>14024171
i think i might start again now

see, you, in, a, while

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Yup, lol.

>>14023092
Written by a Roman Emperor constantly campaigning.

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This is what I'm working with. I have two images. One full size (that's like 18mb) and one I resize to under 4 so I can post it here.
I just add the cover pics to an ms paint "collage" as I get new books.

>>14024574
I have quite a few that are more about weapons or self defense than historical narratives on war, but I'll just post them anyway.

>>14024004
I use it the same way the French do because I'm ESL and that strategy works most of the time. What is te English meaning?

Redcoat by Richard Holmes is a good book for those interested in warfare during the age of gunpowder.

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Thought so, any good if you've read it?

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wew, nice anon, could I get the original image size somewhere?

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All good, would be interesting to learn as well.

>>14024590
hmmmmm, yes.

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>Junger
Any connection to Ernst?

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Mao's book is pretty good. It lays out the basics and goes in to a good bit of detail with the mentality that applies to specific tactics, but doesn't actually go over them.
In other words, it's not a how to on ambushing (L vs V formation and near vs far stuff like that), it just tells you how to use ambushing and why ambushing is important. That sort of thing.

>wew, nice anon, could I get the original image size somewhere?
It's on my computer. I don't know of any place to upload it without making some sort of account that wouldn't compress it.
Hence why I'm bumping with the individual pics.

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That's a good question. I know he also directed Restrepo (a pretty good documentary).
His amazon page/related authors doesn't mention it and his wikipedia doesn't mention it, but does talk about his family. So I'd have to guess not.

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>Mao's book is pretty good.
Sounds fairly interesting will add it onto my list of books on or related to War, in the 20's currently.

>Hence why I'm bumping with the individual pics.
All good anon, have you tried Mega? It'll probably just compress it anyway as you said but I'm sure many of /lit/ would greatly appreciate it in the folder.

>Restrepo
Ahh so like Empire of Dust? It's the only one like that, that I've seen so I'll have to give it a watch.

>So I'd have to guess not.
Thought he might be somewhat 'inheriting' the family name or something along those lines but guess he was just lucky.

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I don't think I could buy these two.

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Yea, I would definitely say Mao's On guerrilla warfare is up there with Von Clausewitz. Definitely shorter, lol, but I would say if you want to be well read on war related books, it's a must read.

>would greatly appreciate it in the folder.
Are you referring to a specific file collection? Or are you just speaking in general terms?

Also, if jackie 4chan would let us upload PDFs and EPUBs, I would just post them here directly. Only about a third of my book collection is hard copy and it's mostly the econ/philosophy and bushcrafting books (cause I bring them into the woods with me).

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lol

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>>14024574
Anon the more I read of this the more I question whether or not it's actually a list of books related to war.

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Most of them are, not all of them. I just meant that that was a visual representation of (most of) the books I own.

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>guerrilla warfare is up there with Von Clausewitz
Would you go as far to say as Equal. Haven't read either yet as I said in the Op I want to finis Aristotle first before branching off into these many different interests.

>Are you referring to a specific file collection? Or are you just speaking in general terms?
The mega in the /lit/ thread, is there even a name for the first thread on a board?

And would you say those 4 books in your pic are your main choices for war? or Strategy? And btw what would you say the mass emphasis on guerrilla warfare comes from? And another question but do you know of any textbook of tactics, goes over various manoeuvres and the likes? As far as strategy goes all of these books exist for that.

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Ahh I see, my mistake. And how'd you buy all these diy books on weapons? Online or second hand bookstore. And what are the Tom Clancy books like, only ever played some of the games.

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>Would you go as far to say as Equal.
I would say no just because Von Clausewitz covers more, however I would put them both in the top 10 books on military strategy.

>The mega in the /lit/ thread
You mean the sticky? The pinned thread by the mod that comes up first/at the beginning of page 1?

>would you say those 4 books in your pic are your main choices for war?
If you wanted to learn about "the theory" of war, probably yes. I have training, so I actually enjoy reading about "the practice" more (like how to books on small unit tactics or long range shooting). There are other great books, but those are classics for a reason. Book of Five Rings might be a little more about "the practice" of sword fighting, but it has a lot of really poetic writing on mindset, which is also very important.

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Online. And most of them are out of print and copies go for hundreds of dollars so you'll have to get them "other" ways.
Archive dot org and Library Genesis are probably the easiest to use.

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Field manuals

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Fun fact, flame throwers are legal in all states of the US except for two.
Unfun fact, I live in one of those states.

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>I would say no just because Von Clausewitz covers more, however I would put them both in the top 10 books on military strategy.
I know I'm asking a lot, but would you care to name those 10 books?

>You mean the sticky? The pinned thread by the mod that comes up first/at the beginning of page 1?
Yea! Duh, I forgot the name.

>but it has a lot of really poetic writing on mindset, which is also very important.
Thanks, will read all of them.

>Online. And most of them are out of print and copies go for hundreds of dollars so you'll have to get them "other" ways.
Archive dot org and Library Genesis are probably the easiest to use.
Cheers.

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Guess that's why you have the manual, heh.

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Sorry, I forgot
>And btw what would you say the mass emphasis on guerrilla warfare comes from?
It's just extremely interesting to me. It's what got me into reading cause I found a topic that would hold my attention. Where before I could never sit still long enough to finish a book. I'm planning on doing my Master's work on it next year.
>do you know of any textbook of tactics
Yea, I've posted a few already, I'll mass quote them when I've posted more.

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>but would you care to name those 10 books?
Oooo, that's a toughy.
Those 4, Fry The Brain (this has a lot of "practice" in it, but the whole book is on the strategy of sniping and guerrilla warfare), Over the Mountain and The Other Side of the Mountain (I might be over emphasising these but they are GREAT books and their story is so interesting, as in both the story of the books and in the books), Any book by David Killcullen, Maneuver Warfare Handook/4th Generation Warfare Handbook (same author, essentially writes a great book on conventional warfare in the height of the Cold War then updates it to be about unconventional war), Infantry Attacks, and War of the Flea.
Now, I'm not any sort of expert, mind you. So take that as MY top ten on strategy. And I would have a different answer had your question been "mindset" or "tactics".

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Sorry, it should read "The Bear Went Over the Mountain" not "Over the Mountain".

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>It's just extremely interesting to me. It's what got me into reading cause I found a topic that would hold my attention. Where before I could never sit still long enough to finish a book. I'm planning on doing my Master's work on it next year.
ADD? Pretty sure I have it myself.

>Those 4, Fry The Brain (this has a lot of "practice" in it, but the whole book is on the strategy of sniping and guerrilla warfare), Over the Mountain and The Other Side of the Mountain (I might be over emphasising these but they are GREAT books and their story is so interesting, as in both the story of the books and in the books), Any book by David Killcullen, Maneuver Warfare Handook/4th Generation Warfare Handbook (same author, essentially writes a great book on conventional warfare in the height of the Cold War then updates it to be about unconventional war), Infantry Attacks, and War of the Flea.
Now, I'm not any sort of expert, mind you. So take that as MY top ten on strategy. And I would have a different answer had your question been "mindset" or "tactics".
Very interesting, will add them all to my list, and what about tactics?

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>Sorry, it should read "The Bear Went Over the Mountain" not "Over the Mountain".
It does say that anon.

Based thread

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Well you know what they say?

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Yea.
Tactics, again, Fry the Brain, Precision Rifle B.I.B.L.E., Principles of Personal Defense, Violence of Mind, Kill or Get Killed, (I don't own these, but I should) The Reluctant Partisan or Guerrilla Gunfighter by John Mosby, Left of Bang, The Tactical Advantage, Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla (kinda bullshit cause they expect you to be kidnapping people and doing political assassinations, but it's got some good info), and Total Resistance (which is a little outdated, but still good).
You can also go to training companies websites and buy their curriculum, which is kinda what John Mosby's books are.
https://www.tacticalresponse.com/collections/gear/products/fighting-pistol-handout
But most companies that do this also have DVDs and the like.


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No, in that first post I wrote "Over the Mountain", that's not the full title.

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>this is only available in the 14th edition of Encyclopedia Britannica and on their website, but you can copy it to a word doc, which is what I had to do

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>Yea.
>Tactics, again, Fry the Brain, Precision Rifle B.I.B.L.E., Principles of Personal Defense, Violence of Mind, Kill or Get Killed, (I don't own these, but I should) The Reluctant Partisan or Guerrilla Gunfighter by John Mosby, Left of Bang, The Tactical Advantage, Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla (kinda bullshit cause they expect you to be kidnapping people and doing political assassinations, but it's got some good info), and Total Resistance (which is a little outdated, but still good).
>You can also go to training companies websites and buy their curriculum, which is kinda what John Mosby's books are.
>https://www.tacticalresponse.com/collections/gear/products/fighting-pistol-handout
>But most companies that do this also have DVDs and the like.
Cheers anon, what about mentality?

>No, in that first post I wrote "Over the Mountain", that's not the full title.
I see.

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Anyone knows where to get a pdf of it?

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Probably Principles of Personal Defense and Fry the Brain again, Violence of Mind again as well, On Killing, Gift of Fear, Forgotten Soldier and A Long Way Gone (if you're looking for a personal account of the emotional toll war takes), after that it kind of depends on what you're looking for cause mindset can be topic specific and bleeds into theory, but I guess I would recommend Diplomacy by Kissinger, Dying to Win, and Ghost: My Thirty Years as an Undercover FBI Agent.

>>14025144
Library Genesis. Search it, then it will have a hyper link (click the title) that will take you to a page. At the bottom will be a list of websites that you can use to download it. Z-Libray seems to always work.
Scratch that, libgen seems to be down at the moment. Google z library. It should take you there.
Or just use this link.
https://b-ok.cc/book/1094841/0815d6

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Yeah sorry, mistyped it and nothing came up. Sorry should have checked my spelling before posting

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doesn't mention portuguese empire and the structure it had to control the indian ocean and doing what the english and dutch would do 200 years later as well the influence it had in the ottoman and egyptian empires, trash book

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you should check out this dude's reading list on war and strategy; i've been reading through it slowly based on what's available online and it's pretty comprehensive:

penningtonlibrary.com/reading-lists

>>14023322
rommel was a hack

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Ok, so they didn't include one part of history. Duly noted.

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...nevermind, you're just retarded.

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Dare I say, based?

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didn't include the first global empire accomplished just by naval power, note again seething anglo.

>>14027979
I'm absolutely bottom burned.

>>14024527
Jünger is so based

>>14025057
I recommend Mattis's book because he pretty much nails down everything about coaching your officers, maintaining initiative in your forces, and decentralizing your forces by providing both autonomy and clear intent to carry out what needs to be done in the mission.

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And something I forgot, he fucking backs everything he did with experience. Really valuable.

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Neat. Haven't gotten a chance to read it yet.

Very cool thread one i don't think you have posted

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Huh?

>>14025266
I love this so much, can´t recommend it enough.

Its very human

Surprised I haven't seen this one yet.

Mujahideen Tactics in the Soviet Afghan War

Just google that for the pdf

Fangs of the Lone Wolf: Chechen Tactics in the Russian-Chechen War 1994-2009 Dodge Billingsley pdf

Again. Google for the pdf

One Soldier's War by Arkady Babchenko. A consripts experience during the first chechen war who then volunteered for the second.
Talks about the state of the war and how the bullying (Dedovshchina) was almost as bad as the chechens.
Mad man also faked his own death last year to help the ukrainians capture the assassins.

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How did you find all of these books anon, I know you haven't every single one of them, correct me if I'm mistaken, but it's just amazing how many you have.

>>14023092
When I became an officer (US Army) my former commander who became my mentor recommended the following books to me:
> The Art of War
> Co-Ed Combat
> Starship Troopers

>>14031126
I cannot help but call him a faggot, still was it Machiavelli or Tzu?

>>14024678
BIG GUY

any good books on caucasus, central asia, or related regions?
also good first person primary sources?

The Rise of the Pasdaran

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See >>14024920
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See >>14024723

>>14027632
See >>14024807

>>14031070
I can't find this book anywhere. Well, anywhere for "free".

>>14031106
If you're referring to me, the one that's been dumping, lol, I found out about most of them on /k/, both here and 8 chan before it got taken down. I've also asked my professors and I'll just scour amazon.
I also have all of them. The 2 websites I mentioned before archivedotord and library genesis will have most of them. If I absolutely can't get find them online I'll buy them from amazon or smaller online distributors.

>>14031126
Can't find Co-Ed combat anywhere for "free" either.

>>14031045
I think that that is the same as >>14024920 but now that I'm looking at the authors I don't think it is. I do know that the US government bought the rights to The Bear Went Over the Mountain and The Other Side of the Mountain so that they could be spread far and wide.

>>14031070
I can't find this book anywhere. Well, anywhere for "free".

>>14031106
If you're referring to me, the one that's been dumping, lol, I found out about most of them on /k/, both here and 8 chan before it got taken down. I've also asked my professors and I'll just scour amazon.
I also have all of them. The 2 websites I mentioned before archivedotord and library genesis will have most of them. If I absolutely can't get find them online I'll buy them from amazon or smaller online distributors.

>>14031126
Can't find Co-Ed combat anywhere for "free" either.

>>14032976
>I can't find this book anywhere. Well, anywhere for "free".

https://community.apan.org/wg/tradoc-g2/fmso/m/fmso-books/195587

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Oh wow, thank you. I really appreciate it.

>>14023541
Is Under Fire the English version of Henri Barbusse's Le Feu?

>anything and everything by Ragnar Benson, just make sure it isn't illegal in your country

Pic related is George Orwell's experiences fighting in the Spanish civil war

>>14025200 is less about war and more about the statesmen and political maneuvering of the West from the Seven Years War to the Cold War

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Understanding Modern Warfare
It's a nice intro to the various aspects of modern warfare and strategic studies. About halfway through (it's my first 'proper book' about war) and it's already helped me get a better grip on current affairs than what's shilled by mainstream media

Great thread, but missing Van Creveld, who is required reading on the subject of war in any case, particularly:
-Transformation of War
-Culture of War
-Age of Airpower

>>14032976
>If you're referring to me, the one that's been dumping, lol, I found out about most of them on /k/, both here and 8 chan before it got taken down. I've also asked my professors and I'll just scour amazon.
>I also have all of them. The 2 websites I mentioned before archivedotord and library genesis will have most of them. If I absolutely can't get find them online I'll buy them from amazon or smaller online distributors.
Cheers anon, will check them all out. And thanks for keeping the thread alive with the dump.

>>14034766
>Van Creveld
>"is an Israeli military historian and theorist"

>"image limit reached"
>tfw

>>14035166
No problem. I'm glad to have gotten the recommendations from others as well.

>>14035722
The threads been up for a while. After the 100th image, I bumped instead of dumped, but only a few people were posting, so I just continued the dump.

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>The threads been up for a while. After the 100th image, I bumped instead of dumped, but only a few people were posting, so I just continued the dump.
Yea I slept for 17 hours so had a lot of catching up to do, will be adding all of them to the list. Out of curiosity, which of the books on Guerrilla warfare would you say are your favourites? The one by Mao? If so any others?

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So, this might just be because of my personal experience, but it's still a good book, but I would have to say Fry the Brain.
Every summer for the last couple of years, I've gone and taken firearms training classes where I've learned all sorts of things like small unit tactics and drills and all that. Bounding, peeling, fireteam overwatch, patrolling techniques, shooting from retention, all that stuff.
But when I read that book, it really opened my eyes to how effective the "sniper" is.
If someone wants to be as effective as an individual can be at defending themselves, their family, and their community, learning concealed long range marksmanship (sniping) is the way to go.
And it really showed me how sniping is the apex of guerrilla warfare.
And the fact that the common man can in some way legally get a bolt action rifle in most of the modern world, and practice with it is such a deviation from the "high speed low drag oper8r" stuff. Most ranges won't let you shoot faster than 1 round every second, much less than move from lane to lane leap frogging with your buddy providing covering fire while he reloads and engaging different targets as you move from one side of the range to the other symbolizing a peel while reacting to an ambush.
But shooting something at 100+ yards? Only once? Putting an emphasis on lack of movement and marksmanship?
You can do that anywhere.
And then you can go put it into practice. Hunters have to learn how to infil and exfil silently. They learn effective camouflage techniques. They even mask their sent.
And they actually kill something.
So training for the urban guerrilla sniper is insanely easy and effective.
They even talk in the book about how in both Falujah and Poland, the guerrillas would train underground and in the sewers.

I'm kinda rambling now, but that book kinda took my whole perspective on warfighting and turned it on it's head. So I really like that book.
>also again, I want to stress, I am no expert, I just try to pay attention when they're talking

>>14036428
Wow, it's really interesting anon. Fry the Brain eh, will add it to the next cart. Would you mind talking more about the in depth responsibility's and actions of the guerrilla sniper?

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>ctrl + f
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THE FUCK'S WRONG WITH YOU ALL?

>>14036532
You can find it online for free if you want.

>Would you mind talking more about the in depth responsibility's and actions of the guerrilla sniper?
Well the actions would have to serve the greater political purpose, whatever that is. That's why anti-imperialist guerrilla wars have been so successful. The IRA for example used sniper when the British stalled the peace talks.
The book also talks about following the international laws on war. Like wearing a uniform, but the uniforms can be as simple as a colored bandana (which is what the soldiers in the Venezuelan coupe did just a few months ago).
Also, again, discussed at length in the book, the sniper uses the trust of the community and makes sure he stays in their good graces.
The first chapter is all about an IRA sniper cell and how each of like 6 people had their own jobs and only one was to shoot a cop/British patrol.
They borrowed a car.
They met at a pub.
They acquired a rifle.
And they had a get away.
A lot of the sniper "hides" that the IRA would use would be cars that were given/loaned to them or houses that were conveniently vacant by sympathetic people in the community.
And then they had preventative measures to protect them should they be charged with a crime, like removing gunshot residue from them. A(nother) fun fact I learned from that book, the IRA didn't wear track suits and jeans cause they wanted to be trendy. Track suits leave no fibers to be used in court and jeans were so common that if they did find fibers at the scene of a shooting/sniping, they couldn't be used anyway.

>>14036572
What from him would you suggest?

>>14034766
He has also apparently written about Israel and gender.
...and it seems ok.

>>14023322
More of a blog than a guide to strategy, not a great recommendation unless you're also really interested in Rommel himself and WW1.

>>14038267
He has many parts where he outlines the tactics and strategy he used, but yes, it is supposed to be a memoir.

>>14024726
Reading it now it has some parts that show the author doesnt know anything about guns

>>14038731
Yea, you'll find that sometimes. Historians, journalists, and the like will research the topic in depth but not be able to have a huge swath of knowledge on the tertiary stuff.

>>14038790
Its a good book otherwise makes you hate the cia even more lol

wow archive.org has gotten shitty recently they wanted me to borrow or go on a waiting list for most of these books

>>14039606
because theyre not public domain, dummy

>>14039606
Only some books are like that and they tend to be newer books.

anyone know any good books on the First Indochina War?

>>14023092

anabasis

>>14023264
seconding this Killcullen is amazing