/lit/ - Literature

>>14020636
what hype surrounding it? fucking zoomers.

>>14020636
One of the greatest works of literature produced.

Best book /lit/ has ever memed me into.

Hate this cover

Love this cover

>>14020636
incelcore

Shower thoughts of edge variety

cover

>>14020636
When people respond with "my diary desu", this book is the first thing that comes to my mind

>>14020636
Downloaded it on Audible because I saw it posted here. Still gotta check it out.

Zeno's Conscience is better

>>14020636
Be sure to Read richard zenith's translation for penguin btw

>>14020636
400 fucking pages of endless incel whining

>>14020636
Listen to >>14021481 OP

Do not read the edition you used for your image.

>>14021624
If you didn't love reading and writing incel whining you would not be here

>>14020906
>>14021624
this. strangely enough it's also one of the greatest works of literature ever created.

>>14021624
>>14020906
>INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL

I enjoyed it a lot while I was reading it but it didn't really leave a lasting impression

>>14020636
like what do you gain from reading it? Like some books make you think until something new clicks, some get you absorbed with characters and ideas. Whats the point of this one

>>14020636
I think I’m a reincarnation of Pessoa

>>14023080
It's not memed because it's great. It's memed because it's self absorbed incel core

>>14024116
Ahh yes, a book about powerful emotions relating to loneliness and social isolation which vaguely resembles lonely, isolated people on the internet that are famous because of Vice.

Another classic example of how fucking meaningless the term incel is.

>>14024145
Why don't you get a girlfriend m8?

>>14024150
You know what? Fuck you. I bet you're only this mean because your comments here are anonymised and you don't see the reaction of the person on the other end of the screen.

>>14024150
I have one, but I suppose simply pointing out that incels arent the only one's who are lonely or isolated won't stop you from calling me an incel because, again, the term is literally meaningless.

>>14022429
Is it really that bad?

>>14024159
>>14024163
>ignoring Pessoa's constant incel misogyny, especially in the excruciating 'advice for women' sections

>>14020636
You know, I always thought "Sleeping while Awake" was a better title for the book.

Yeah no

>>14024177
>not understanding that the book is written by Bernardo Soares, a character created by Pessoa and thus not representing Pessoa's own opinions
>an author shares the opinions of every single character (s)he creates

>>14024185
>when the author does that bold innovative thing of having a deeply misogynistic narrator
How do they come up with this stuff? But don't let me stop you mansplaining misogyny

>>14024221
You know, baiting doesn't make neither you nor this board any more interesting.

>>14024177
>>14024332
Putting so much power in muh misogyny making you unable to enjoy the rest of the work, with so many other different ideas, as well as good prose, is not only a shame but a clear signal that your priorities as a reader are askew.

>>14022429
are you talking about this version?

>>14024185
>an author shares the opinions of every single character (s)he creates
Literally me. Some shoehorn their opinions into their characters, I a posteriori embrace the opinions of mine.

>>14021084
Based and chaconnepilled.

>>14024179
This would make it literzlly me: the book.
One of my friends once commented it didn't make much of a difference wether I was asleep or awake.

>>14024332
>>14024349
>pointing out the obvious flaws in your fave is bait now
Besides, the point in question is not whether Pessoa can write well, he can, but why /lit/ likes him. It's very obvious his popularity here is due to his misogyny and self absorbtion rather than his literary qualities, cf every Hollaback thread.

>>14024451
i dislike the basketball

>>14024490
I'm not sure anon. I'm not who you're answering to, but I have read beither Houellebecq nor Pessoa, yet from the threads about them on /lit/ I feel like I would love Pessoa and be utterly unimpressed by Houellebecq. They seem to give off different vibes somehow. Houellebecq tries to be a cold sociaal analysis it seems, while Pessoa is peak dreamy introspection. And I say that as someone who finds misoginy in literature facile and boring most of the time.

>>14024490
I really can't understand how something the author barely grazes upon in his work is elevated to the quasi-official status of "flaw". There's barely any misogyny in The Book of Disquiet. Someone stressing upon it so much is rather bizarre to me.
I think it might be the sign of the times and brainlets can't see past it. In some possible future what might be picked upon will be, maybe, his unwillingness to produce and be pragmatic in a mundane world, sucumbing to inproductive thoughts and dreams. This decade, though, it seems to be misogyny.

>>14024517
>barely grazes upon in his work
He has lengthy chapters devoted to it

If pessoa is an incel then both proust and kafka are, and none if them are incels

>>14024524
It was written a century ago. By that metric, all of the ancient greeks should be disregarded.

>>14024534
I meant half a century.

>>14024490
Okay I'm sorry for thinking it was bait. Pessoa is not my favourite writer, but I do love the book. If you've read it, you'll know that the "writer" is constantly thrown back and forth between idealising his (indeed self-absorbed) ideology and the disappointing confrontation with the outside world. He has tried to convince himself of the inevitability of his solitude, and through a sour grapes cope, he dismisses the outside world and experience as futile. It's a very nuanced work, and reading it makes you doubt the importance of your own ideologies. This is true literature. Try not to cherrypick, because it is fairly obvious when reading without prejudice that the author is not propagating misogyny (don't see why you say misogyny instead of misanthropy, which would make a lot more sense): deep down the writer knows that his misanthropy is a cope, and it is constantly gnawing at the edges of his self-constructed sense of superiority.

This book is the ultimate ‘if you read it and still get caught in inaction you will never get out of it’

>>14024542
Total misinterpretation. Clearly you didn't understand Soares' ontology of dreams