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BEWARE OF THOSE THAT CALL THEMSELVES JEWS, BUT ARE NOT. THEY ARE LIARS AND OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

revelations in general is very high T

All of it.
But if I have to pick favorite gospels and epistles it would be Luke, John, Hebrews, John's epistles, and Jude.
I love Luke

>19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
>20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
>21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
>22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
>23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
>24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
>25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
>26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
>27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
>28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
>29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
>30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
>31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Fuck off with this piece of jewish fanfiction, OP. Old Testament is where it's at.

Mark 12:32–34
>32 And the scribe said to him: Well, Master, thou hast said in truth, that there is one God, and there is no other besides him.
>33 And that he should be loved with the whole heart, and with the whole understanding, and with the whole soul, and with the whole strength; and to love one's neighbour as one's self, is a greater thing than all holocausts and sacrifices.
>34 And Jesus seeing that he had answered wisely, said to him: Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

Matthew 25:31–45
>31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty.
>32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats:
>33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
>34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
>35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

>36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.
>37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink?
>38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee?
>39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee?
>40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

>41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels.
>42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink.
>43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.
>44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee?
>45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

John 7:37–40
>37 And on the last, and great day of the festivity, Jesus stood and cried, saying: If any man thirst, let him come to me, and drink.
>38 He that believeth in me, as the scripture saith, Out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
>39 Now this he said of the Spirit which they should receive, who believed in him: for as yet the Spirit was not given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
>40 Of that multitude therefore, when they had heard these words of his, some said: This is the prophet indeed.

>>14013292
cringe

>>14012701
Recently Matt 1:1

>Jesus Christ son of David son of Abraham

Just keep meditating on that. Really rich.

>>14012977
Based. I've also been reading the warning to the Laodecians. Why is indifference the hardest thing to overcome.

>>14013309
>>14013279
Based

page 10 bump

Based thread

>>14012701
John 1 is just the best
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Jesus wept

>>14012701
>I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
(Galatians 2:20)
Have been chewing on this lately.

>>14013344
>Just keep meditating on that. Really rich.
Any pointers? I have heard that there is much to be found in the Genealogies, but I don't know where to begin.

>>14016004

Thoughts?

>>14014673
I remember when someone told me that to "comprehend" can not just mean "understand" but also "encompass". Can't believe I never thought about it in that way and just always took it that the darkness doesn't understand the light.

>>14016023
It is late (for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent), so these are just a selection of thoughts:
The obvious link is to Matthew 16:24
>Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
but there are plenty connections to be made. One might for example think about laying up for yourself not a treasure on earth, in connection with this. Or that it is "/thy/ will be done", i.e. in particular not my will (not my kingdom come, not my name be hallowed).
Or:
>And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word.
Angelus Silesius wrote something like:
>Wär Christus tausend Mal zu Bethlehem geboren
>Und nicht in dir, du bliebst noch ewiglich verloren
(If Christ were born a thousand times in Bethlehem but not in you, you would still be eternally lost.)
Or even further:
>Ach könnte nur dein Herz zu einer Krippe werden
>Gott würde noch einmal ein Kind auf dieser Erden
(If only your heart could become a manger, God would become a child on earth once again.)
Now, for the heart to become a manger, is this not exactly to deny yourself? To say ecce ancilla domini? Thy will be done? Not I, but Christ liveth in me?

>>14012701
I love the epistle to Roman's, where it is clearly stated that salvation is by grace and grace alome

>you will never hate gays as much as paul

>24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.

>26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

>28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. 29 They were filled with all manner of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity, they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them.

>>14012701
All of the New Testament as long as you drop Paul from it. Paul is a charlatan.

>>14016012

I've been seeing more and more how the covenants are the keys to understanding scripture. Matthew here is saying that Jesus is the fulfilment of the abramic and davidic covenants. Jesus is the one who's throne is established by God so that all the nations are blessed. It's simple stuff but profound and rich and just flows through all of scripture. Its foundational stuff which forms the context in which everything else is to be read. This verse in particular is to be read in connection with God's promises to Abraham, Genesis 12 - 22 but 17 in particular, then 1 Chronicles 17 and 2 Chronicles 7. Psalm 89 as well. All part of how Jesus saw himself as the son of man being the one in whom all these loose ends were gathered up. But all in all just building up a vision for me of Christ as the cosmic ruler, whose rule is blessing.

>>14016075
>Wär Christus tausend Mal zu Bethlehem geboren
>Und nicht in dir, du bliebst noch ewiglich verloren

Love this. Thanks anon

>>14016094
Thanks a lot! I have to brush up on my old testament knowledge, I think. It's quite vague in a lot of places, and so I wouldn't have been able to make a case like you just did.

>>14012701
>Eloi eloi lama sabachthani?
God asking himself in the third person why he's forsaken himself

>>14016151
Can someone give me a non-sentimental reading of this?
Don't get me wrong, the passion usually bring me to tears, so I am not opposed to sentiment. But all the explanations of this verse I have heard so far have been only sentimental, which is a little unsatisfying (for those are not the things that be of God, but of men.)

>>14016126

Ah in that case yes definitely getting to grips with covenants is the way forward, it'll open up a lot for you. The big ones are Abraham, Moses and David, but God also makes covenants with Adam, Noah, Isaac and Jacob. The David one in particular is huge and understanding it will change your reading of the psalms of David. If you want to do some extra reading that will help get to grips with the OT, I recommend "the epic of Eden" , I can't remember the author sorry but it was influential on me. Sandra someone I think. God bless you anon glad I could be helpful. I love this stuff.

>>14012701
the parts where it doesn't say Jesus was the son of God.

>>14016170

He's quoting Psalm 22. Back then psalms didn't have numbers so they would be referenced by their first line. It's basically Mark saying "go back and read Psalm 22 because that's what is happening here". The second half of the Psalm is critical. Jesus was never abandoned by the father.

I haven't read the bible fully so I only remember 'bits', but the one I think about lot is the denial of peter

>>14016191
>He's quoting Psalm 22
I was aware of this, but
>The second half of the Psalm is critical.
Now that you say it, it seems obvious, huh. I hadn't thought to look at it that way (i.e. that he is pointing to the whole of the psalm). Thank you!

>>14016012
http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/catena%20aurea.pdf
go to page 6 (of the pdf)

>>14016177
Thank you again, I'll look into The Epic of Eden.

>>14016225
And into this, thank you as well.

>>14016083
>you will never hate jews as much as saint john chrysostom
it hurts...

>>14016197

Why?

>>14016197
yeah that really gets to me, too. especially on good friday. it just reflects so well how unworthy we truly are. i mean, i don't even have the balls to call someone out for taking the Lord's name in vain. i'm a piece of shit

>>14016249
I think its because it exemplifies that man is flawed, he can't comprehend that he's flawed, and the moment of realisation that he has done wrong and that he is flawed isn't a damnation but is instead a path to penitence.

I'm probably talking a whole heap of rubbish, but it's a terrible and beautiful moment.

>>14016294

Thanks anon.

I'm.off to bed lads. Thank you all

>>14012701
John 14:6
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

This is the verse that stuck with me for a while. I found John 21 and the story of Zachaeus to be very heartwarming as well.

1 Corinthians
51 Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away

John
9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

6 After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes. 7 “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.

>>14013279
Luke and Job are recommended on the harvard book shelf.

was resurrecting Jesus a necessary plot point?
I'm no parent, but outlast a child must be the worst experience one can feel. now imagine Marie grieving and suddenly your son comes back for a brief time then go away for good. she must've hoped for all her life for him to come back again, living a delusional state of mind, stuck in the past and not being able to move forward.

Paul's entire discourse to the Athenians is pretty kino

>Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
Acts 17:22-31

>>14012701
>26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

>27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.

>28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

>29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.

>30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.

>31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

>>14016247
pretty sure I have him beat
Haman couldnt hold a candle to what burns inside me

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

>>14014673
I was just gonna post that.

The Epistle of James.
Everything you need to know about being a christian is distilled into 108 verses in 5 short chapters.
Simple, elegant, to the point.

>>14012701
I had Luke 7:37 pop into my mind when visiting my Grandpa last Friday in hospice, so I read it to him. He died last Monday. I hope he repented, I was the only person he was reacting to in his last days.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7%3A37-50&version=ESV

>>14016078
My favorite part of Romans is in Chapter 9, where Paul wishes he could damn himself for the salvation of others. I always wonder how many Christians only proclaim such out of fear of hell, and how many would serve even if the reward was destruction.

>>14012701
I'm trying to get into the bible for the first time. Should I skip the Old Testament for now and go read the New Testament first, or will it make more sense from the beginning?

>>14022485
What are you trying to get from it? OT has the wisdom books (my personal favorite) as well as relevant history for the NT. If you want a spiritual message, John might be a good starting point.

>>14022516
I guess trying to know God, but also looking for parallels between biblical history and present day.

>>14012701
The one that says not to worry.
But I still worry anyway

>>14022485
The 4 gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are the culmination of everything the old testament was leading towards. If you are unfamiliar with Christianity, it may be best to start with those 4 first to get the big picture and then go back to the old testament to see how everything unfolded to get there. The new testament is certainly understandable without having read the old testament, but the old provides all the foundations built with God and his people for the new.

Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle.
4
They said to him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery.
5
Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women.* So what do you say?”b
6
They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger.*
7
* But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them,c “Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
8
Again he bent down and wrote on the ground.
9
And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him.
10
Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”d
11
She replied, “No one, sir.” Then Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you. Go, [and] from now on do not sin any more.

>Neither do I
Almost started crying during mass after hearing that one when it was last read

>>14018356
Based

>>14022485
Go for the new Testament, then read the old and re read the new afterwords. You will see the words of Jesus all over the OT and connect lots of dots that way.

>>14022485
Yeshayahu (Isaiah) is pretty significant for the understanding of the good message.

>>14022629
Unfortunately this great sob story wasn't found in any of the earliest manuscripts of the work with it
and was even relocated to Luke or somewhere else in John in some copies and is now considered by most academics and specialists to be a later addition.
But hey don't take it up with me before going into some autistic rant about specialized research, but rather look into the actual reasoning of the researchers themselves.

>>14024394
>Trusting (((researchers))) over the saints
Never gona make it

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

>>14012701
Wait what is he saying here? What do you need to have?

>>14026006
Need to have listened.

>>14026006
>[8:16–18] These sayings continue the theme of responding to the word of God. Those who hear the word must become a light to others (Lk 8:16); even the mysteries of the kingdom that have been made known to the disciples (Lk 8:9–10) must come to light (Lk 8:17); a generous and persevering response to the word of God leads to a still more perfect response to the word.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/luke/8#50008016-1

>>14024596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_and_the_woman_taken_in_adultery#Manuscript_evidence

When will Flannery O'Connor be added to the Bible?

>>14026260
>Wikipedia
Never gona make it even in academia

/lit/ Bible-reading group when?

>>14012701
James 1:12
>12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

James 2
>18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
>19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Matthew 6
>19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

>20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

>21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

>22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

>23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

>24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

>25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

>26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

>27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

>28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

>29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

>30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

>31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

>32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

>33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

>34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

>>14026396
they're including him in the bible 2

>>14024394
>>14024596
Honestly, this. The primacy of the historical viewpoint is a materialist meme. There is a reason Tradition has put it there.

>>14024596
>>14026479
Worse is the little get together a bunch of men had over 1000 years after jesus passed to decide what is holy and what isn't

>>14012701

>II Kings 2: 23-24: “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking up the path, some small boys came out of the city and harassed him, chanting, ‘Go up, baldy! Go up, baldy!’ He turned around, looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the children.”

>>14026726
Doesn't make it a valid reason though.

>>14026680

>>14026744
100 bro at least know the basics before trying to critique it.

>>14012701
The resurrection of Lazarus.

Also, I want to believe that Lazarus is the author of John.

>>14024394
>trusting (((researchers)))

in all seriousness, the woman at the well > the adulteress

>>14024596
>>14027442
They make a better argument than triple parentheses do.

>>14013279
This is my argument for those who say we, Christians, are responsible for "saving" people. The prophets are enough. There are no excuses.

>If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.If I have the gift of prophecyand can fathom all mysteriesand all knowledge,and if I have a faiththat can move mountains,but do not have love, I am nothing.If I give all I possess to the poorand give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

>Love is patient,love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking,it is not easily angered,it keeps no record of wrongs.Love does not delight in evilbut rejoices with the truth.It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

>Love never fails. But where there are prophecies,they will cease; where there are tongues,they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.For we know in partand we prophesy in part,but when completeness comes,what is in part disappears.When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhoodbehind me.For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror;then we shall see face to face.Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

>And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.But the greatest of these is love.

>>14022426
I'm sorry about your grandpa fren

>>14028981
Thanks fren. He moved the most when I read the Bible, so I have some hope. I won't know until the end, though. He wasn't unconscious, but he was too weak to speak. He moved his mouth and moved his arm at times, but couldn't do anything. It's wild to see someone who was so imposing become so frail.

>>14014673
Convoluted and fake deep.

>>14016091
Fucking based. Paul sucks. Never even met Jesus yet wrote like half the New Testament. What a joke.

>For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 1:4

>>14022440

Wow

>>14029396
Paul is the best part though.
We have an actual theologian and a man of action, without which Christianity would have risked being a Jewish millenarist cult.

How do we have free will if God's plan is a thing?
What did he have in mind when the drug cartels in mexico became a thing?

>>14022485
I'd say read the old before but skip the historical books. The style is very dry and the substance only turns interesting by reading the other books. Also you can read exodus only from the Torah as a first reading. It is by far the most significant, rather than dwelling on the precise order in which priests have to cut bulls on the altar.
The queen of Judah being a whore or the king's lieutenant worshipping Baal is quite secondary. You can read the prophets only knowing the jews are terrible without the specifics.

>>14027914
Not really it's just an appeal to authority, but the wrong one wh n it comes to church matters.

>>14016091
>>14029396

Don't drop him, but read him as the anti-Christ, which he is. His inclusion is very fitting.

Ioannes 3:14-16
And just as Moyses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so it behoveth the son of man to be lifted up, that everyone believing in him may have age-lasting life.

For God so loved the world that he gave the only-engendered son, that everyone believing toward him would not have perished but have age-lasting life.