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14007955 No.14007955 [Reply] [Original]

Is he actually worth reading or is lit just taking the piss again? Also, looking at his bibliography, he seems to have studied Hinduism a lot, how come he converted to Islam rather than Hinduism?

>> No.14007961

Because he got a fertile Egyptian loli out of the deal.

>> No.14008021

He is off Arabian descend, ofcourse he converted to Sunni Islam. Would he have been of Aryan descend than he would have been more attracted to Shia Islam or converted to Hinduism.

>> No.14008073

>>14007955
He is worth reading. Keep in mind the people who spend their times posting memes don't read, so memes are not a good measure of quality.

>14008021
Something about Guénon brings the insanity out of many posters. Arabian descent? kek

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14008092

What's up with hand in clothes?

>> No.14008102

>>14008092
Freemason sign

>> No.14008107

>>14008102
Doubt.

>> No.14008109

>>14008102
I was thinking that.

>> No.14008110

He's not worth reading. Read Eliade instead.

>> No.14008135

>>14007955
i always see threads of this guy. I have no idea who he is, but i always read his name to be guern-on. goog-pilled by /lit/

>> No.14008145

>>14008107
check for yourself if rulers /persons who you find portraited /photographed as such were known Freemasons and then conclude

>> No.14008150
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>>14008102
>esoteric

>> No.14008164

I read that he basically converted in order to assimilate. Me and my bf will be reading his introduction to Hindooism together soon.

>> No.14008165

>>14008073
So assuming the members don't actually know what he is about, what is he actually about?

>> No.14008245

>>14008110
watered down Guenon for babbies who need their hand held to understand abstract metaphysics

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>>14008092
He’s reaching for his lightsaber
Darth Goonon was a slippery bastard

>> No.14008348

>>14007955
Yes. He converted to Islam essentially because it was more convenient and because he wasn't really interested in becoming an ascetic.

>> No.14008351

>>14007955
>Is he actually worth reading or is lit just taking the piss again?
its a retard shilling him, he isn't worth reading his whole shit is just 'hurr modern bad sacred good' (I saved you valuable time right there).

>how come he converted to Islam rather than Hinduism?
he says it himself, he doesn't feel Hinduism (despite being an aryan religion) is conducive to the western lifestyle. In other words, he was too pussy to actually become what he wanted and so just joined the nearest tradition where he could live a somewhat comfy life, so much for his ambition.

>> No.14008419

>>14008351
hey Whitehead

>> No.14008425

>>14008245
Guenon is not a philosopher, he's an historian of religion. His arguments are not philosophical arguments in the slightest but interpretations of religious myths, doctrines and sourced, which makes them at best good literary criticism and at worst simple argument from authority. His historical value is weak, compared to eliade, for instance, and his book are full of ad hoc arguments and straight made up reading of the sources. He's an incredibly poor source of philosophical insight compared to Plato and others in the neoplatonic tradition - of which so-called tradition is a mere ripoff, where the argumentative skills of actual platonic philosophers are substituted by gross generalizations, random assumptions, weak textual interpretations and arguments from authority for claims that are way too broad to be accepted just because "dude Greek gods look like hindu gods so there must be like a true God they were both referring to!" or "dude christ and Buddha are similar so could they be pointing at the same vague new age doctrine I point to but with a lot of references to old texts to give it authority?" this is the lowest kind of speculation and it is good that it has been forgotten and ridiculed.

>> No.14008447

>>14008425
>"dude Greek gods look like hindu gods so there must be like a true God they were both referring to!" or "dude christ and Buddha are similar so could they be pointing at the same vague new age doctrine I point to but with a lot of references to old texts to give it authority?"
he never writes this anywhere once in any of his books

> gross generalizations, random assumptions, weak textual interpretations and arguments from authority
such as?

>> No.14008460

>>14007955
Probably because hinduism is a fucking joke

>> No.14008465
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14008465

This long of a thread but no one here answered the OP's question. OP, he converted to Islam because he can actually become Muslim. If you were to convert to Hinduism it would not make sense since he wasn't born into a caste, he would automatically become an untouchable.

>> No.14008490

>>14008465
That's not true actually, there are no prohibitions in the Vedas or smritis that say foreigners can't become Hindus. There is just no standardized pan-Hindu conversion procedure like how with Muslims all recite the Shahada. Different Hindu sects have their conversion and initiation procedures, many of which have no restrictions on who can join. John Levy was an English traditionalist who traveled to India, become a Hindu and studied under different masters, and who eventually purchased Guenon's house in Cairo for him as a gift. When people repeat the meme "you can't become a Hindu if you're not born into it!!!" they're usually Abrahamists trying to get you to join their religion. Not to mention of course as a decent looking white guy you'll have loads of Indian women and their families trying to get you to marry them, at which point you can be legally adopted by them and become whatever caste they are if you so desire.

>> No.14008511

>>14008490
Is there any situation where being an Englishman isn't ideal?

>> No.14009191

>>14007955
"I think this quote of Jung explains it well
Everything that we have not thought about, and that has therefore been deprived of a meaningful connection with our developing consciousness, has got lost. If we now try to cover our nakedness with the gorgeous trappings of the East, as the theosophists do, we would be playing our own history false. A man does not sink down to beggary only to pose afterwards as an Indian potentate. It seems to me that it would be far better stoutly to avow our spiritual poverty, our symbollessness, instead of feigning a legacy to which we are not the legitimate heirs at all." from Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious

>> No.14009313

>>14008465
shankara looks so cute there

>> No.14009326

>>14008107
It is 100%

>> No.14009343

>>14008425
This is a pasta.

>> No.14010127

>>14009191
Yeah instead of studying timeless wisdom we should be spending all our time trying view spirituality through the reductionist lenses of Freudianism and psychoanalysis, lmao

>> No.14010338

>>14008092
Pants back then didn't have pockets in them, so if you felt the need to shove your hand into your clothing for whatever reason it went between your jacket buttons.

>t. went to West Point and experienced this feeling while wearing my dress uniform.

>> No.14010348

>that face
NICE TO BE REFUTED RETROACTIVELY, TO BE REFUTED RETROACTIVELY NICE

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14011524

Read Guénon yes