/lit/ - Literature

True. But patternless history is just as cringe

Fuck you hegel maybe if you learned how to fucking write we could put this stupid argument behind us

Spengler's right, though.

>>13954095
Maybe if you learned how to fucking read you’d actually understand Hegel

>>13954031
>linear history

>>13954096
I wouldn't call that cyclical exactly. Civilizations being distinct metaorganisms that follow a recognizable path of development and decay isn't the same concept as like the Hindu Yuga cycles. World history for Spengler isn't a cycle, it's just Cultures emerging and interacting in arbitrary fashions, or playing out their individual life cycles alone.

>>13954096
Reeee you can’t prove Spengler it’s not how it works. Destiny is something really transcendent only to be felt, never to be talked about (unless you’re Big Dick Faustman Oswald).
And it’s not even cyclical, it’s self-contained cultural organism. There’s no such thing as world-history, just different approaches to the world-as-history.

>>13954116
>>13954114
>Roman Kingdom, then Roman Republic, then Roman Empire
But God forbid we consider cyclical history.

>>13954136
Identical patterns != cyclical history
Cyclical history is something like Polybius. For Spengler, cultures terminate. And in M+T, ALL cultures terminate with the end of the Faustian one.

Theories of history are glorified prophesies.

Can someone post the I LOVE CAPITALISM copypasta? This image isn't complete without it.

>>13954151
>Identical patterns != cyclical history
The definition of a cycle is "a course or series of events or operations that recur regularly and usually lead back to the starting point". It's pretty much cyclical at this point.

>>13954031
>linear history

>>13954189
LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*on the clock 24/7 with no benefits because of "entrepreneur" and "gig economy" jargon that tells them they're being proactive by being a fucking moustache-waxing hipster douche with a Twitter and no steady career, and because they can be bribed with beanbag chairs and hammocks in the fucking office to entice them to sleep there.*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*Is made to dance around in the morning and talk about how much he loves his boss to make a healthy workplace environment*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*Submits to the work can be fun we are a family culture*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*snitches on his coworkers who are trying to unionize like the cuck he is*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*Let's CEO fuck his wife while he works overtime*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*In debt for the rest of his life*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*dies from not having proper healthcare*
>I LOVE CAPITALISM I LOVE CAPITALISM
*Gives up on his creative interests and works a boring office job for the rest of his life and feels self satisfied because of how "practical" he is being*
>WE LOVE CAPITALISM HERE YOU COMMIE WE ARE NOT LETTING YOU TAKE OUR FREEDOM AWAY MOVE TO VENEZUELA OR NORTH KOREA IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE LOL
*Gets laid off and is forced to retrain pajeet to replace him who will work his job for a fraction of his pay*

Is there anything more cucked than supporting capitalism when you are not one of the oligarchs?

>implying all of existence isn't a cycle

>>13954031
Linear history is part of Cyclical history, in fact, it only accelerates the process.